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Amianki
Alright.

We have four real life days to get a majority vote.

If we don't get a majority today and the mafia are able to kill tonight, then we are in a position where we have to again pass on a majority since we will be in MeLo.

I did get an initial set of reads when I initially offered to replace into the game, but they're all very weak reads since there's next to nothing in this game that is particularly indicative of anything.
Amianki
If anybody has role related information that can be alignment indicative, they NEED to release it ASAP. With how little there is in the game on day four, we need any jumping point we can get if we want any chance to get anywhere from this point.

I'd like everybody to at least state any such information or that they don't have any in their next post.
Amianki
As confirmation, I don't have any information to share from my role.
Topic Starter
heipizhu
Prodding CleverlandsMybro, REZQ, emajakolic and Anaxii.
REZQ and Anaxii are being replaced. PM me if you're interested.
Why on earth would this happen...
emajakolic

Amianki wrote:

As confirmation, I don't have any information to share from my role.
me too actually
ClevelandsMyBro
not much info from me other than im a cat.
Amianki
Tick, tock, nominomu and 179bpm.
Amianki
If we start scraping against the end of the day without my question being answered by every living player, I'm going to be heavily pushing for votes against whoever doesn't.

I really do not want to have to take matters into my own hands, but I will if I have to.
Amianki

Amianki wrote:

Tick, tock, nominomu and 179bpm.
As extra motivation, I am independently scumreading both of you based on the posts of the game.
179bpm

Amianki wrote:

Amianki wrote:

Tick, tock, nominomu and 179bpm.
As extra motivation, I am independently scumreading both of you based on the posts of the game.
whatever
Amianki
So you are here.

Do you have role related information to share?
Amianki
Vote: 179bpm
Topic Starter
heipizhu

VOTE COUNT 4.1

  1. 179BPM: Amianki
  2. Not Voting: (6 players)
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to execute.
The day deadline is in 8 September, 11:00 UTC.
Amianki
We're at roughly 3 days left in deadline now, I believe an hour off of it.
Amianki
I'm recommending we start coming to a conclusion on who we're voting out when we reach two days left so that we hopefully have time to get enough votes in.

I'd still like to have every slot answer my question about role information if possible, though.
nominomu
i have no role information
179bpm

Amianki wrote:

So you are here.

Do you have role related information to share?
crap im late

anyways im just gonna say i thought anaxii was mafia before they tapped out
Amianki
So you don't have any information directly from the moderator related to your role that can help determine the alignment of another player in the game as of right now?
Amianki
I don't think it fundamentally matters since I think 179bpm would have immediately known what I was talking about if he was town and did have role information, and it would be essentially claiming mafia to do so after not answering the question twice and doing so anyways. Plus there isn't a whole lot of time left, so I'll just move on.

I don't think that a power role had a part in the no kill last night, namely due to how my predecessor used (or didn't use) my role the past three nights as well as the general apathy throughout the game thus far. I think it's more likely that the mafia team this game simply didn't submit a kill in time night three.

Taking this into consideration, I'm choosing to believe that mafia members are probably not going to be posting within two hours of day starting and loudly proclaiming that the scumteam didn't submit a kill with essentially zero provocation. This means Clevelandsmybro is probably town.

Nominomu saying in the very next post that it might have been a doctor is something I don't think he'd go out of his way to post as mafia that forgot to submit a kill. I'm a little worried how we got from hinting about something with Anaxii to having no role information, but I'm making enough assumptions as it is so I'll just keep stacking them on.

Emajakolic was around essentially right after daybreak along with Clevelandsmybro and didn't engage into that conversation how I'd expect a beginner mafia to respond, so I'm choosing to believe he's town for now.

So essentially where I'm at is that two of {Anaxii, Rezq, 179bpm} are the mafia team this game, and I think Rezq is the most likely of the three to be it.
nominomu
we're not sure about the mafia team size though, it could be two but it could also be one or three (or even more but thats pretty unlikely in terms of balancing)
Amianki
I wouldn't put three mafia in a game full of beginners, and I wouldn't put role madness in a game with one mafia.

It's an educated guess with the added benefit of 7:2 being a pretty standard alignment distribution.
Topic Starter
heipizhu
Due to the lack of players, I'll freeze the deadline countdown for now. It'll continue after I find 2 replacements.
Amianki
Does anybody have any thoughts about my reads?
Amianki
You guys need to keep it down in here, I can't keep up with all the excitement.
Topic Starter
heipizhu
Prodding emajakolic. emajakolic is being replaced, but they may stay if they returned before I found a replacement.
Amianki
Vote: Rezq

If nobody's really wanting to engage, then I'll just rest my case I guess.
ClevelandsMyBro
so sorry. i occasionally just popped up here because i just so happen to remember this game existing.

Amianki wrote:

So essentially where I'm at is that two of {Anaxii, Rezq, 179bpm} are the mafia team this game, and I think Rezq is the most likely of the three to be it.
anaxii looks like hes so done with the game. i would think that mafia would take advatage with the little activity going on but then again its their second game.

for 179bpm, "whatever" he sounds so done aswell but with the added context that you were trying to know everyone's role now it seems highly suspicious. shrugging it off is stupid in my eyes because i doubt you could tell someone's alliance by knowing their role.

my stance stays the same for rezq

its honestly just 179bpm and rezq for me.
ClevelandsMyBro
im going to clear amianki for now since i doubt scum would post 10 times in a row
ClevelandsMyBro

Amianki wrote:

Vote: Rezq

If nobody's really wanting to engage, then I'll just rest my case I guess.
based on my previous post, i'd probably vote for 179bpm tho because we are on the process of replacing rezq.
nominomu
honestly i wouldnt be surprised if anaxii was scum and just wasnt bothered to do a kill last night
nominomu
or rezq actually
Amianki
Honestly I'll vote whoever in that list.

If 179bpm flips scum, I have a bit more freedom to use my role and probably will.
ClevelandsMyBro
Vote: 179bpm

voting them for now because they could clear themselves. or they could try to.

@179bpm talk
Topic Starter
heipizhu
Flavor

Don't blink or get choke

VOTE COUNT 4.1

  1. 179BPM: CleverlandsMyBro
  2. REZQ: Amianki
  3. Not Voting: (5 players)
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to execute.
The day deadline would be frozen until a replacement is found.
Amianki
Vote:179bpm
Amianki
It's technically impossible to get a majority on somebody here unless one of the replaced players comes back or gets replaced, but no point doing nothing in the meantime.
Amianki
I'm starting to wonder whether this game is worth salvaging anymore tbh

I don't think we're getting replacements.
Topic Starter
heipizhu

Amianki wrote:

I'm starting to wonder whether this game is worth salvaging anymore tbh

I don't think we're getting replacements.
I've sent out 5 replacement invitations, but man, it is actually hard to find someone to replace in.
Topic Starter
heipizhu
@Everyone
Honestly, I'm not sure whether I should continue modding this game anymore. I've tried, but I don't know how to put this game onto track anymore.
If you wish to call this game as a draw, please pm me. The game will end after everyone does so.
Amianki
math math math

map map map

mat mat mat

mad mad mad

mack mack mack

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Topic Starter
heipizhu
Still haven't heard from nominomu, but it has been 48 hours, so I've decided to call this game to an end.

VOTE COUNT 4.FINAL

  1. 179BPM: CleverlandsMyBro
  2. REZQ: Amianki
  3. Not Voting: (5 players)
With 7 alive, it takes 4 to execute.
No one is executed.

Start sending out role pms and night actions...
Topic Starter
heipizhu

Welcome SamX500! You're Oumae Kumiko and you're aligned with TOWN!
Abilities:
  1. During the day, you may vote for whoever you want to eliminate.
  2. Listener: As a willing and nonjudgmental listener, you easily befriend everyone you meet and accept both their flaws and strengths. During the night, you may send the me a post or statement made by another player, and the I'll tell you whether that other player was telling the truth when they made that post. The ability is not available on day 1, and has a cooldown of 4 phases (a phase= one single day or night) https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Lie_Detector
Win conditions:
  1. You win once all threats to the Town have been eliminated.
Confirm your role by replying me with rule #11.


Welcome OVERDUSTFIVA! You're OVERDUSTFIVA and you're aligned with TOWN!
Abilities:
  1. During the day, you may vote for whoever you want to eliminate.
  2. 727 lover: On every night, you may send me a osu score with 727 on it. The map must be ranked and the play time must be within the night period, and you may not submit the same map twice.
    If you manage to give me a score with 727 in the score, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn whether that player wins with Town. (You will get "no result" if this action is blocked.)
    If the 727 is on somewhere else (eg: 300 counts, max combo), you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn who that player targeted that night. (You will get "no result" if this action is blocked.)
    If there are several different 727 in one score, you may investigate more than once.
Win conditions:
  1. You win once all threats to the Town have been eliminated.


Welcome 179BPM! You're Harmony and you're aligned with TOWN!
Abilities:
  1. During the day, you may vote for whoever you want to eliminate.
  2. The singers club: You may discuss with emahakolic any time via pm. Their faction isn't guaranteed to be town.
  3. Stake out: Each night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference, you'll learn who targeted them
  4. Easily distracted: If you're targeted, you'll redirect your action to the player that targeted you.
Win conditions:
  1. You win once all threats to the Town have been eliminated.
Confirm your role by replying me with rule #11.


Welcome emajakolic! You're Ruby Hoshinio who just started playing osu! and you're aligned with TOWN!
Abilities:
  1. During the day, you may vote for whoever you want to eliminate.
  2. osu!beginner: You began your osu!carrer just now and you found yourself getting better and better. You're not keen on pp farming at all, so you tend to enjoy game and play whatever song you like. You may visit as many players as you want at night (and they will learn that you visit them). Since you're extroverted, outgoing, loud, optimistic and communicative, everyone you visited will know you visit them.
  3. Learning Curve: As the game progresses, the you'll become better at understanding the gameplay mechanics and strategies. Each night, they gain additional knowledge about the roles and abilities of other players in the game.
Win conditions:
  1. You win once all threats to the Town have been eliminated.
Confirm your role by replying me with rule #11.

Welcome nominomu! You're Ruby nominomu and you're aligned with TOWN!
Abilities:
  1. During the day, you may vote for whoever you want to eliminate.
  2. Japanese mailman: Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, the moderator will anonymously send that player a message of your choice, but the message will be machine-translated to Japanese. (specified when you submit this action).
  3. Japanese Informant: Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, the moderator will send that player a predetermined message containing setup information. The information has been translated into Japanese already.
Win conditions:
  1. You win once all threats to the Town have been eliminated.
Confirm your role by replying me with rule #11.

Welcome CleverlandMybro! You're an actual cat (wait, this user changed his username and I can't find the original avator? Sorry...) and you're aligned with TOWN!
Abilities:
  1. During the day, you may vote for whoever you want to eliminate.
  2. Cat: At any time during the day, you may post Meow
    and I will post funny cat pictures. Try not to post too often, or I will be driven crazy lol.
  3. Enraged: Once per day, you may "claw" another player and vote them twice via a special bolded vote like this:
  4. Claw: Player Note that this will not function if it would be a hammer or if the game is in ELo.
  5. Tree climbing: You are protected from the first kill that targets you, and it would be public information that the cat was being attempted to be killed the next morning.
Win conditions:
  1. You win once all threats to the Town have been eliminated.
Confirm your role by replying me with rule #11.


Welcome Sametdze! You're Sametdze and you're aligned with TOWN!
Abilities:
  1. During the day, you may vote for whoever you want to eliminate.
  2. Night Ride: Each Night, you may choose a player to take it on your train. Assuming no interference with your action, all actions used by the passenger that Night, and all other actions targeted at the passenger that Night, will be blocked. Once in the game, you may also secretly kill the passenger who has been on board twice.
Win conditions:
  1. You win once all threats to the Town have been eliminated.
Confirm your role by replying me with rule #11.

Welcome, REZQ! You're REZQ and you're aligned with MAFIA!

Abilities:
  1. During the day, you may vote for whoever you want to eliminate.
  2. You and your partner, Anaxii, share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill.
  3. Ambiguos identity: Every night, you may choose a player. The investigation made on you would return as if they were instead on the player you choose.
  4. Replication: If you successfully guess the name of the ability of another player, you will have a one-shot ability of the ability. You may only guess three times per night, and only the first successful one would count. You're not allowed to 'guess' your scum partners' ability. Also, you're informed that the abilities you can mimic only have one or two word.
Win conditions:
  1. You win once the Mafia control 50% of the population, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
Confirm your role by replying me with rule #11.


Welcome, Anaxii! You're Farfocele and you're aligned with MAFIA!

Abilities:
  1. During the day, you may vote for whoever you want to eliminate.
  2. You and your partner, REZQ, share a factional kill each night. You must choose which of you will commit the kill.
  3. google: Each Night, you may target a player. Assuming no interference with your action, you will learn that player's role (but not their alignment).
  4. en pessant: You may switch two players each night. Thus, any night action performed on a switched player will affect the other player targeted by you.
Win Conditions:
  1. You win once the Mafia control 50% of the population, or nothing can prevent this from happening.
    Confirm your role by replying me with rule #11.
Topic Starter
heipizhu
N1 action:
REZQ attempts to replicate samx500: 'Euphonium player' (return: wrong)
REZQ use ambitious to change into emajakolic
179 bpm stalk out samx500
Anaxii investigates cleveland
Anaxii switches Overdustfiva and sametdze
Anaxii kills samx500
OVERDUSTFIVA submits his score

OVERDUSTFIVA tracks SAMX500
SamX500 takes no action
nominomu takes no action
sametdze takes no action

Result: Anaxii kill: successful
179BPM learns that Overdustfiva and Anaxii target samx500
Your taget didn't target anyone for overdustiva
emajakolic learns that: There exists a a role that will work like Godfather in the game.
Anaxii learns cleveland's role.

N2 action:
OVERDUSTFIVA submits his score

OVERDUSTFIVA tracks REZQ
Anaxii Switch: Cleveland and nominomu
Anaxii Learn: ema
Anaxii Kill: OVERDUSTFIVA
REZQ replicates CleverlandMybro: meow (wrong)
sametdze night rides REZQ
nominomu informed Anaxii (ゲーム内の誰かが、能力の名前を見つけた場合、他のプレイヤーの能力をコピーすることができます)

Result: All actions worked
emajakolic learns 'There exists a someone that can fake their targets in the game.'
No one for OVERDUSTFIVA
Anaxii learns that ema is Ruby Hoshinio who just started playing osu!
Anaxii got the info 'ゲーム内の誰かが、能力の名前を見つけた場合、他のプレイヤーの能力をコピーすることができます'
OVERDUSTFIVA is dead.

N3 actions:
nominomu informed 179bpm and send this message: 'Anaxii also knows this information, but the person sending this doesn't.'
trans into: Anaxiiもこの情報を知っていますが、これを送信する人は知りません。(success, redirect to themselves lol)
sametdze takes no action
179BPM stalks out Anaxii (success, return no result)
No action received from both scum
Topic Starter
heipizhu
Thanks for playing, still looking forward to the next game!
ClevelandsMyBro
gg rezq is scum told yall already
Amianki
I wasn't going to say this in the game since it's against the spirit of the game, but the three slots that completely gave up were essentially the most likely scum just by the fact that they completely quit the moment scum didn't get a kill.

I just happened to know one was town lol
Amianki
We really need some kind of beginner guide for this forum if we're going to be using it. It doesn't need to be anything but mindset even, since most of this game is just being in a good enough headspace for the game.

I've noticed over the years that the biggest problem with newer players is that they just don't know how to even approach the game, so that would probably help.
Topic Starter
heipizhu

Amianki wrote:

We really need some kind of beginner guide for this forum if we're going to be using it. It doesn't need to be anything but mindset even, since most of this game is just being in a good enough headspace for the game.

I've noticed over the years that the biggest problem with newer players is that they just don't know how to even approach the game, so that would probably help.
Well, we do have an 'ancient' guide here:
community/forums/topics/189774?n=1
but I doubt newbies will ever find it lol
Amianki
That's a good one I completely forgot existed.

I'm kinda floored it's been a full decade since I first came here but I'm not that surprised I guess
ClevelandsMyBro
people have a shorter attention span than the ones from 10 years ago. its just that. the forum format absolutely doesnt help with matter because one game can lasts for weeks or even months.
Topic Starter
heipizhu
I'm now thinking of modding some Blitz games (48 hours day game) to make sure most games can be completed in 2 weeks, but it might be even harder for newbies to join in :(
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