hey, it's already night, you can't speak in publicJoon Yorigami wrote:
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you thinkAireunaeus wrote:
Noone to suspect right now, lack of activityespecially thisJoon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
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Sharun_CCGeek is hit out by Fire Planet, and they're Golden Planet. Ah...no one can protect tiles anymore.
let's see where did they die...
A snowflake...that's the beauty of death.
YyottaCat is killed by Ice Planets, and they're a Vanilla Tile. This is what I said.
let's see where did they die...
Holy shit, a big circle, no wonder why they die so accidently.
let's see where did they die...
A snowflake...that's the beauty of death.
YyottaCat is killed by Ice Planets, and they're a Vanilla Tile. This is what I said.
let's see where did they die...
Holy shit, a big circle, no wonder why they die so accidently.
Day3 has started. The soft day deadline is in 24 July, 12:00 UTC.
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VOTE COUNT 3.0
- Not voting: (9 players)
The soft day deadline is in 23 July, 12:00 UTC.
i don't think kaiser is really a scum due to him being inactive in this game. he could be one but it highly doubt it. gamla is definetly not a scum either. and we can also confirm that noumi is also not a scum. he rarely posts there and only posts if heipizu prodds himJoon Yorigami wrote:
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you thinkAireunaeus wrote:
Noone to suspect right now, lack of activityespecially thisJoon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
so my suspects are pretty much noone
so that leaves just you then.Aireunaeus wrote:
so my suspects are pretty much noone
I haven't been online much because of too much busy things going around, and school and other activities.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
its honestly the best lead we have right now. unless someone else is silenced for the entire duration of the night then its very possible julian is fire planet.GamlA wrote:
Are you absolutely sure that it couldn't be anyone else?Joon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
@Julian_Kaiser clear yourself
Seeing the fire planet's failure to execute a kill on the first night, either:
•Golden planet protected the victim.
or
•Fire planet targetted someone from ice planet and bullet protection was effective.
else or,
•Fire planet did not target anyone.
I'm considering that one of the first two is more likely to happen.
Also,
There's a chance this isn't satire.I AM VERY SMART wrote:
I just said that GamlA is safe because too many people vote for them.YyottaCat wrote:
Please clear yourself, I AM VERY SMART.
But of course I am defending my scum partner, of course.
Damn, all the vanilla tiles all killed by the ice planets
Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
But fire planets are weird, ignoring that no-kill moment first night, I wouldn't really expect them to come for Shaun last night, IAMVERYSMART actions on the first day were suspicious as well. I assume they had an internal fight at night #1, then the one left alive proceeded to kill Shaun, who was extremely inactive at the time, for whatever reason.
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
But fire planets are weird, ignoring that no-kill moment first night, I wouldn't really expect them to come for Shaun last night, IAMVERYSMART actions on the first day were suspicious as well. I assume they had an internal fight at night #1, then the one left alive proceeded to kill Shaun, who was extremely inactive at the time, for whatever reason.
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
Not entirely sold on this idea of inactivity = vanilla, if the last game taught me anything it's that being inactive doesn't clear your status. "definitely not a scum" is a very strong sentence, but that's just wishful thinking, if anything that makes you suspicious.Aireunaeus wrote:
i don't think kaiser is really a scum due to him being inactive in this game. he could be one but it highly doubt it. gamla is definetly not a scum either. and we can also confirm that noumi is also not a scum. he rarely posts there and only posts if heipizu prodds himJoon Yorigami wrote:
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you thinkAireunaeus wrote:
Noone to suspect right now, lack of activityespecially thisJoon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
so my suspects are pretty much noone
Yeah, maybe even the silent ones are the fire or ice
I said "definitely not a scum" because gamla felt pessimistic at the end and decided to vote himself cuz he thought he would be voted out. That's why I doubt that he's not a scum at all. (But ngl his PFP really fits as a fire planet lol)Kobold84 wrote:
Not entirely sold on this idea of inactivity = vanilla, if the last game taught me anything it's that being inactive doesn't clear your status. "definitely not a scum" is a very strong sentence, but that's just wishful thinking, if anything that makes you suspicious.Aireunaeus wrote:
i don't think kaiser is really a scum due to him being inactive in this game. he could be one but it highly doubt it. gamla is definetly not a scum either. and we can also confirm that noumi is also not a scum. he rarely posts there and only posts if heipizu prodds himJoon Yorigami wrote:
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you thinkAireunaeus wrote:
Noone to suspect right now, lack of activityespecially thisJoon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
so my suspects are pretty much noone
So this implies that the Ice Planets are able to recognise potential threats. Sam and Yyotta were very vocal in the previous days, so I understand.Kobold84 wrote:
Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
How do you propose we do this?Kobold84 wrote:
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
What do you mean with "we"? That’s kinda suspicious what you’re using. At least for meGamlA wrote:
How do you propose we do this?Kobold84 wrote:
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
I see, I never really played mafia type games online before. So I have no ideaGamlA wrote:
So this implies that the Ice Planets are able to recognise potential threats. Sam and Yyotta were very vocal in the previous days, so I understand.Kobold84 wrote:
Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
Seeing as IAVS was even more pessimistic, this really doesn't explain much. Personally, I don't suspect him that much, but not for this reason.Aireunaeus wrote:
I said "definitely not a scum" because gamla felt pessimistic at the end and decided to vote himself cuz he thought he would be voted out. That's why I doubt that he's not a scum at all. (But ngl his PFP really fits as a fire planet lol)Kobold84 wrote:
Not entirely sold on this idea of inactivity = vanilla, if the last game taught me anything it's that being inactive doesn't clear your status. "definitely not a scum" is a very strong sentence, but that's just wishful thinking, if anything that makes you suspicious.Aireunaeus wrote:
i don't think kaiser is really a scum due to him being inactive in this game. he could be one but it highly doubt it. gamla is definetly not a scum either. and we can also confirm that noumi is also not a scum. he rarely posts there and only posts if heipizu prodds himJoon Yorigami wrote:
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you thinkAireunaeus wrote:
Noone to suspect right now, lack of activityespecially thisJoon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
so my suspects are pretty much noone
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.GamlA wrote:
How do you propose we do this?Kobold84 wrote:
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".
VOTE: nominomu
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)Kobold84 wrote:
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.GamlA wrote:
How do you propose we do this?Kobold84 wrote:
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".
VOTE: nominomu
What you are saying is reasonable, especially the second part. I remember there was a similar pattern in Aireunaeus actions in a previous mafia game where he was a scum. All days were him saying something along the lines of "there's no one suspicious for me, I'll abstain from voting" and that led to scum outnumbering vanillas. Could just be playing style shenanigans rather than a role-dependent behaviour, but honestly it lines up with how the ice planet operates almost too well.nominomu wrote:
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)Kobold84 wrote:
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.GamlA wrote:
How do you propose we do this?Kobold84 wrote:
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".
VOTE: nominomu
VOTE: Aireunaeus
I have no idea who to vote, so I will just follow other
VOTE: Aireunaeus
VOTE: Aireunaeus
wagon time
VOTE: Aireunaeus
VOTE: Aireunaeus
Topic Starter
"Hey, since there are double-taps, are there any triple-taps?"
"Of course. But their true names is fake-double-tap (except in RJ-X) and fake-triple-tap."
"Wait, what? Oh, noooooooooooo"
The soft day deadline is in 23 July, 12:00 UTC.
"Of course. But their true names is fake-double-tap (except in RJ-X) and fake-triple-tap."
"Wait, what? Oh, noooooooooooo"
VOTE COUNT 3.1
- Aireunaeus(E-2): Kobold84, REZQ, Joon Yorigami
- Not voting: (6 players)
The soft day deadline is in 23 July, 12:00 UTC.
Well the reason why i didn’t want to vote anyone out (even the people whom are inactive), is because there is a lack of evidence that they are a scum. I can’t just vote a random guy and they’ll end up as a vanilla type. If someone makes a suspicious move then i actually would vote them of course. I do confirm that just voting out noone is kinda a dumb move but I’ll be more active into finding suspicious and vote anyone. It’s my 3rd time playing an online mafia game.Kobold84 wrote:
What you are saying is reasonable, especially the second part. I remember there was a similar pattern in Aireunaeus actions in a previous mafia game where he was a scum. All days were him saying something along the lines of "there's no one suspicious for me, I'll abstain from voting" and that led to scum outnumbering vanillas. Could just be playing style shenanigans rather than a role-dependent behaviour, but honestly it lines up with how the ice planet operates almost too well.nominomu wrote:
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)Kobold84 wrote:
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.GamlA wrote:
How do you propose we do this?Kobold84 wrote:
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".
VOTE: nominomu
VOTE: Aireunaeus
i'll stay out of voting for now until there's a stronger consensus, but any good mafia wouldnt just go "hey i'm the mafia!" in the chat or say anything that basically confirms they're mafia, its more about who's more suspicious than others, if no one gets voted out then the mafias won't get voted out, and the only way to stop the mafias is to vote them out
Just like nominomu pointed out, suspicious moves don't come out of nowhere, you have to use your words and your vote if you want to force people into unfavorable positions. Yes, certainly we don't want to vote out vanillas, but your vote alone doesn't get the target executed on the spot. See how much we got just from this short exchange? And no one died (yet). It's okay to be wrong, just find whoever's looking the most dubious to you.Aireunaeus wrote:
Well the reason why i didn’t want to vote anyone out (even the people whom are inactive), is because there is a lack of evidence that they are a scum. I can’t just vote a random guy and they’ll end up as a vanilla type. If someone makes a suspicious move then i actually would vote them of course. I do confirm that just voting out noone is kinda a dumb move but I’ll be more active into finding suspicious and vote anyone. It’s my 3rd time playing an online mafia game.Kobold84 wrote:
What you are saying is reasonable, especially the second part. I remember there was a similar pattern in Aireunaeus actions in a previous mafia game where he was a scum. All days were him saying something along the lines of "there's no one suspicious for me, I'll abstain from voting" and that led to scum outnumbering vanillas. Could just be playing style shenanigans rather than a role-dependent behaviour, but honestly it lines up with how the ice planet operates almost too well.nominomu wrote:
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)Kobold84 wrote:
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.GamlA wrote:
How do you propose we do this?Kobold84 wrote:
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".
VOTE: nominomu
VOTE: Aireunaeus
But well, whatever, passive playstyle is fine too, but if the majority of players is indecisive like that, then the game is pretty much decided.
I have no idea who to vote, so I will just follow other
VOTE: Aireunaeus
VOTE: Aireunaeus
I'm not saying you shouldn't follow my votes, but blindly doing that without agreeing with my suspicions or providing your own is not right too.
If I was a scum and then chose a vanilla just like that, you would execute an innocent person by bandwagoning. Perhaps it's better this way, instead of a slow death we get a few risky votes here and there, but it sure doesn't sit right with me.
If I was a scum and then chose a vanilla just like that, you would execute an innocent person by bandwagoning. Perhaps it's better this way, instead of a slow death we get a few risky votes here and there, but it sure doesn't sit right with me.
Topic Starter
I'll call this a day if no posts are posted in the following 10 hours.
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT 3.FINAL
- Aireunaeus(E-1): Kobold84, REZQ, Joon Yorigami, WELUVMYUKA
- Not voting: (5 players)
No one is executed.
Night 3 has started. Please submit your night action via pm to me. The night deadline is in 24 July, 15:00 UTC.
Wait, does this mean you will be targeted as well because you are pretty active and experienced?Kobold84 wrote:
Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
But fire planets are weird, ignoring that no-kill moment first night, I wouldn't really expect them to come for Shaun last night, IAMVERYSMART actions on the first day were suspicious as well. I assume they had an internal fight at night #1, then the one left alive proceeded to kill Shaun, who was extremely inactive at the time, for whatever reason.
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
hey, I warn you again, no night-public-conversation, if you want to say something, please speak it out earlierRezq wrote:
Wait, does this mean you will be targeted as well because you are pretty active and experienced?Kobold84 wrote:
Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
But fire planets are weird, ignoring that no-kill moment first night, I wouldn't really expect them to come for Shaun last night, IAMVERYSMART actions on the first day were suspicious as well. I assume they had an internal fight at night #1, then the one left alive proceeded to kill Shaun, who was extremely inactive at the time, for whatever reason.
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
Topic Starter
WELUVMYUKA is hit out by the Ice Planets and they are part of the Double-tap Tile.
that's the result of talking too little.
let's see where did they die...
WTF IS THIS, THAT'S FUCKING 21.2+ AND HELL.
Julian_Kaiser is killed by Fire Planet and they are... an Ice Planet? quite strange...
let's see where did they die...
eh... multi arm, really classic.
Day 4 has started. The soft day deadline is in 29 July, 15:00 UTC.that's the result of talking too little.
let's see where did they die...
WTF IS THIS, THAT'S FUCKING 21.2+ AND HELL.
Julian_Kaiser is killed by Fire Planet and they are... an Ice Planet? quite strange...
let's see where did they die...
eh... multi arm, really classic.
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT 4.0
- Not voting: (7 players)
The soft day deadline is in 29 July, 15:00 UTC.
I thought ice was going to kill kobold...
hmmm this sentence is a bit susRezq wrote:
I thought ice was going to kill kobold...
Aireunaeus wrote:
hmmm this sentence is a bit susRezq wrote:
I thought ice was going to kill kobold...
Rezq wrote:
Wait, does this mean you will be targeted as well because you are pretty active and experienced?Kobold84 wrote:
Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
But fire planets are weird, ignoring that no-kill moment first night, I wouldn't really expect them to come for Shaun last night, IAMVERYSMART actions on the first day were suspicious as well. I assume they had an internal fight at night #1, then the one left alive proceeded to kill Shaun, who was extremely inactive at the time, for whatever reason.
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
Yes, it's true that I seem like a legitimate target, but this doesn't mean it is what will happen. Two possible scenarios that could be in play:
a) it's a ploy to make me seem as a scum, it also redirects discussions from "who is suspicious" to "why is kobold not targetted", seems simple but works well, I assume even if it's true there's some hidden meaning to it as well;
b) ice planet decided to not target me because they don't render me as much of a threat compared to a possible fire planet member, for example, who they are trying to get rid.
The second scenario also implies my deduction wasn't entirely correct when I was suspecting Aireunaeus and nominomu to an extent, but doesn't clear them 100%.
a) it's a ploy to make me seem as a scum, it also redirects discussions from "who is suspicious" to "why is kobold not targetted", seems simple but works well, I assume even if it's true there's some hidden meaning to it as well;
b) ice planet decided to not target me because they don't render me as much of a threat compared to a possible fire planet member, for example, who they are trying to get rid.
The second scenario also implies my deduction wasn't entirely correct when I was suspecting Aireunaeus and nominomu to an extent, but doesn't clear them 100%.
We now know Julian was a scum, so it'd be good to scrutinize their actions one more time.
Day 1: complete inaction (confirmed by being allegedly replaced by the organizator), this means whoever is an ice planet was acting alone on the first day and night. Not much information, but worth remembering. To me, that means that one ice planet scum was probably not as risky and spent the day rather passively, knowing full well their team is in a bad spot.
Day 2: Joon accused Julian to be a fire planet due to his low activity.
ClevelandsMyBro defended Julian and remarked how inactivity is more likely to indicate he's a townie. GamlA did not defend Julian, but asked about this accusation.
After a while ClevelandsMyBro decided to put suspicion on Julian as well (without voting however).
Julian defended himself and said he doesn't have a lot of free time currently, while proposing other options to who could be a scum. He also slightly accused GamIA of being a fire planet based on a post of IAVS. The latter to me speaks a lot, because his low activity does seem genuine and this accusation could spiral out of control very fast and put GamIA at a risk of being voted out. Not worth it, if he was his ice partner.
Night 2: Julian died.
Day 1: complete inaction (confirmed by being allegedly replaced by the organizator), this means whoever is an ice planet was acting alone on the first day and night. Not much information, but worth remembering. To me, that means that one ice planet scum was probably not as risky and spent the day rather passively, knowing full well their team is in a bad spot.
Day 2: Joon accused Julian to be a fire planet due to his low activity.
ClevelandsMyBro defended Julian and remarked how inactivity is more likely to indicate he's a townie. GamlA did not defend Julian, but asked about this accusation.
After a while ClevelandsMyBro decided to put suspicion on Julian as well (without voting however).
Julian defended himself and said he doesn't have a lot of free time currently, while proposing other options to who could be a scum. He also slightly accused GamIA of being a fire planet based on a post of IAVS. The latter to me speaks a lot, because his low activity does seem genuine and this accusation could spiral out of control very fast and put GamIA at a risk of being voted out. Not worth it, if he was his ice partner.
Night 2: Julian died.
Also I know this is risky, but maybe it's a good time for a double-tap to reveal themselves. If there's only a single person coming out, this means we have one less suspect off the list as they're 100% a townie. If there'd more than one however, then one of them is 100% a scum, which is also good for us and at the very least we can decide between the two (or even three? but unlikely) instead of trying to find the suspicious person among all of us.
Since we're 5 vs 2 right now, we absolutely have to get a planet today, because otherwise the very next day our number could shrink down to 3 vs 2, which is... well, you can imagine how bad that would be.
Since we're 5 vs 2 right now, we absolutely have to get a planet today, because otherwise the very next day our number could shrink down to 3 vs 2, which is... well, you can imagine how bad that would be.
Ooh, I seeKobold84 wrote:
Yes, it's true that I seem like a legitimate target, but this doesn't mean it is what will happen. Two possible scenarios that could be in play:
a) it's a ploy to make me seem as a scum, it also redirects discussions from "who is suspicious" to "why is kobold not targetted", seems simple but works well, I assume even if it's true there's some hidden meaning to it as well;
b) ice planet decided to not target me because they don't render me as much of a threat compared to a possible fire planet member, for example, who they are trying to get rid.
The second scenario also implies my deduction wasn't entirely correct when I was suspecting Aireunaeus and nominomu to an extent, but doesn't clear them 100%.
Why did fire planet killed him though? They could have use him as a decoyKobold84 wrote:
We now know Julian was a scum, so it'd be good to scrutinize their actions one more time.
Day 1: complete inaction (confirmed by being allegedly replaced by the organizator), this means whoever is an ice planet was acting alone on the first day and night. Not much information, but worth remembering. To me, that means that one ice planet scum was probably not as risky and spent the day rather passively, knowing full well their team is in a bad spot.
Day 2: Joon accused Julian to be a fire planet due to his low activity.
ClevelandsMyBro defended Julian and remarked how inactivity is more likely to indicate he's a townie. GamlA did not defend Julian, but asked about this accusation.
After a while ClevelandsMyBro decided to put suspicion on Julian as well (without voting however).
Julian defended himself and said he doesn't have a lot of free time currently, while proposing other options to who could be a scum. He also slightly accused GamIA of being a fire planet based on a post of IAVS. The latter to me speaks a lot, because his low activity does seem genuine and this accusation could spiral out of control very fast and put GamIA at a risk of being voted out. Not worth it, if he was his ice partner.
Night 2: Julian died.
Not sure, did they even know he was an ice planet? Even then, he didn't seem very suspicious to be used as that. My assumption is that the fire planet mostly targets relatively silent players, I guess in order to remove people who are hiding? Or they know something I don't.Rezq wrote:
Why did fire planet killed him though? They could have use him as a decoy
Now we understand, because of Julian_Kaiser's murder, that the fire planets' absence of a kill on night 1 was due to the depletion of the ice planets' bulletproof.
And because of the ice planets never missing their target, we can say that Team Fire still has their bulletproof.
And because of the ice planets never missing their target, we can say that Team Fire still has their bulletproof.
Ahhh, so in the first night they targeted Julian but his bulletproof activated. So they know that Julian is one of the Ice Planet and targeted him again
thats me, im the other double-tap (or at least i claim to be)Kobold84 wrote:
Also I know this is risky, but maybe it's a good time for a double-tap to reveal themselves. If there's only a single person coming out, this means we have one less suspect off the list as they're 100% a townie. If there'd more than one however, then one of them is 100% a scum, which is also good for us and at the very least we can decide between the two (or even three? but unlikely) instead of trying to find the suspicious person among all of us.
Since we're 5 vs 2 right now, we absolutely have to get a planet today, because otherwise the very next day our number could shrink down to 3 vs 2, which is... well, you can imagine how bad that would be.
or, they could have targeted the other ice planet, since its a factional bulletproof, if im understanding correctly? if they did target julian 1st night i wouldnt really see a reason to wait until the 3rd night to target him again, other than maybe trying to trick us into thinking they targeted the other ice planet first nightRezq wrote:
Ahhh, so in the first night they targeted Julian but his bulletproof activated. So they know that Julian is one of the Ice Planet and targeted him again
Wait, can the golden planet kill?
noRezq wrote:
Wait, can the golden planet kill?
I see. I was thinking if the gold planet hit one of the fire planet in the first night and got killed in the second night so that will make sense. But I guess no
Ohh, that's a good observation, but as nominomu said this begs a question: why was Julian targeted on day 1 and then only on day 3?GamlA wrote:
Now we understand, because of Julian_Kaiser's murder, that the fire planets' absence of a kill on night 1 was due to the depletion of the ice planets' bulletproof.
And because of the ice planets never missing their target, we can say that Team Fire still has their bulletproof.
No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
If in the first night of the game the fire planet targeted other ice planet, then they are fucked lol
Topic Starter
The song Options, which is used in World XT, composed was slightly modified during the Drunken Python section, having a few added on beats. This song is also in the fa library and have a ranked mapset. Go on and have a look: beatmapsets/1049855:)
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Please notice that I'll cut out the day if no posts are posted in the following 24 hours.
VOTE COUNT 4.1
- Not voting: (7 players)
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Topic Starter
Prodding CleverlandMybro and Joon Yorigami.
prod skip
will read tomorrow bcs i kinda need sleep rn hehe
will read tomorrow bcs i kinda need sleep rn hehe
Voting because of the bandwagon last day occurring for no reason. Maybe that would also help in reviving him.
VOTE: Joon Yorigami
VOTE: Joon Yorigami
Idk about s***Kobold84 wrote:
Voting because of the bandwagon last day occurring for no reason. Maybe that would also help in reviving him.
VOTE: Joon Yorigami
VOTE: Joon Yorigami
Cleveland and Joon still haven't properly responded, we may need to wait for them to be sure nominomu is the Double-Tap.Kobold84 wrote:
No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
hi I'm alive
I just hate not having anyone lynched for 3 days straight it just seems counter-productiveKobold84 wrote:
Voting because of the bandwagon last day occurring for no reason. Maybe that would also help in reviving him.
VOTE: Joon Yorigami
ofc not because hes dead.Kobold84 wrote:
No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
dont think theres no reasoning behind the wagon imo. voting out someone would be beneficial at this later stages of the game. would rather take the gamble than allow scums to take control of the night but thats from my experience.Kobold84 wrote:
Voting because of the bandwagon last day occurring for no reason. Maybe that would also help in reviving him.
VOTE: Joon Yorigami
As I explained, one of the planets could lie and say he is a double-tap. Doesn't seem like it will be the case.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
ofc not because hes dead.Kobold84 wrote:
No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
Well, now he did provide the reason for that, but last day it wasn't as obvious. Guess that's that.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
dont think theres no reasoning behind the wagon imo. voting out someone would be beneficial at this later stages of the game. would rather take the gamble than allow scums to take control of the night but thats from my experience.Kobold84 wrote:
Voting because of the bandwagon last day occurring for no reason. Maybe that would also help in reviving him.
VOTE: Joon Yorigami
this could be a town or scum slip but i dont know which oneClevelandsMyBro wrote:
ofc not because hes dead.Kobold84 wrote:
No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
oops got ninja'd wwwwww
as it stands nominomu is double tap unless someone else wants to roleclaim??Kobold84 wrote:
As I explained, one of the planets could lie and say he is a double-tap. Doesn't seem like it will be the case.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
ofc not because hes dead.Kobold84 wrote:
No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
It's been 2 days since my request and nominomu claimed to be one, so yeah, guess that settles it. The only one who did not post anything yet is Aireunaeus.
I didn't even know what to say or respond due to me sometimes having difficulty understanding the context of the words or what they mean. But i try very hard to respond on thatKobold84 wrote:
It's been 2 days since my request and nominomu claimed to be one, so yeah, guess that settles it. The only one who did not post anything yet is Aireunaeus.
On the other hand, I do kinda suspect gamla as a scum, because smart guy telling that he’s "100% not a scum". That kinda reminds me like the word "definitely" Or "totally". these words remind me that they'll use them in an ironic way. so it could be a possibility that gamla is a scum by any chance. Soo
VOTE: GamlA
VOTE:GamlA
this, along with the pfp :3cAireunaeus wrote:
I didn't even know what to say or respond due to me sometimes having difficulty understanding the context of the words or what they mean. But i try very hard to respond on thatKobold84 wrote:
It's been 2 days since my request and nominomu claimed to be one, so yeah, guess that settles it. The only one who did not post anything yet is Aireunaeus.
On the other hand, I do kinda suspect gamla as a scum, because smart guy telling that he’s "100% not a scum". That kinda reminds me like the word "definitely" Or "totally". these words remind me that they'll use them in an ironic way. so it could be a possibility that gamla is a scum by any chance. Soo
VOTE: GamlA
VOTE: GamIA
Topic Starter
"Could we just stop spinning? I'm kind of tired."
"NO."
"Why?"
"We both have the gravitation, so stopping spinning means the only thing, death."
"So what can we do?"
"Only run."
The soft day deadline is in 29 July, 15:00 UTC.
"NO."
"Why?"
"We both have the gravitation, so stopping spinning means the only thing, death."
"So what can we do?"
"Only run."
VOTE COUNT 4.2
- Joon Yorigami(E-2): Kobold84, Rezq
- Gamla(E-2): Aireunaeus, nominomu
- Not voting: (3 players)
The soft day deadline is in 29 July, 15:00 UTC.
Welp, I hope it's a good idea, but I guess it's the best lead we have, even if it's exceptionally thin.
VOTE: GamIA
VOTE: GamIA
True
VOTE:GamlA
VOTE:GamlA
Topic Starter
GamlA is a Vanilla Tile... for the first one to be cleared out. What a pity!
Let's see where did they die...
TremENDouS... now it's nearly the end of the game or their life.
GamlA is executed. They are a Vanilla Tile.
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Let's see where did they die...
TremENDouS... now it's nearly the end of the game or their life.
VOTE COUNT 4.FINAL
- GamlA(Eliminated): Aireunaeus, nominomu, Kobold84, REZQ
- Not voting: (3 players)
GamlA is executed. They are a Vanilla Tile.
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I'm really surprised that noone responded after 2 days
It wasn't really a great idea to eliminate gamla. But that's pretty suspicious that kobold and a few others easily agreed to it without any proper suspicion about him.
I'm also very surprised that you speak in the public at night as the third rules-breakerAireunaeus wrote:
I'm really surprised that noone responded after 2 days
Topic Starter
Nobody died, ah... It was a peaceful night.
Hmm...let's me show something else.
Yeah, it was a fotgotten night, too.
Day 5 has started. The soft day deadline is in 5 August, 12:00 UTC.Hmm...let's me show something else.
Yeah, it was a fotgotten night, too.
WARNING: Do not post during the night. The day will only start after I make the post. The next one who posts during the night will be modkilled.
Topic Starter
VOTE COUNT 5.0
- Not voting: (6 players)
The soft day deadline is in 5 August, 12:00 UTC.
lets vote for the other suspicious person, i think he was seen awake and talking in the middle of the night as well
VOTE: Aireunaeus
VOTE: Aireunaeus
also how were there literally no eliminations last night? im expecting that the ice planet may have targeted fire which activated the bulletproof (ice planet kills were successful in nights 1, 2, and 3, which means the bulletproof hasn't been activated until possibly night 4). but then that means fire planet didnt target anyone last night, which is strange.
unless, if both planets targeted the same person, which is probably more likely. theres only 6 players left (and theres a good chance that both planets targeted me since i revealed as double-tap)
(y'know, it would be really funny if they do that again this night)
(yes please target me again :3c)
unless, if both planets targeted the same person, which is probably more likely. theres only 6 players left (and theres a good chance that both planets targeted me since i revealed as double-tap)
(y'know, it would be really funny if they do that again this night)
(yes please target me again :3c)
I think that both of the planets targeted the same person, it makes more sense because no one has been killed last night. Maybe ice planet broken the fire's protection may or may not be true, but that means the fire planet didn't kill anyone last night, which is unlikely. Anyways, the same tactics as before, it's better gamble for the vote rather just do nothing. So,nominomu wrote:
also how were there literally no eliminations last night? im expecting that the ice planet may have targeted fire which activated the bulletproof (ice planet kills were successful in nights 1, 2, and 3, which means the bulletproof hasn't been activated until possibly night 4). but then that means fire planet didnt target anyone last night, which is strange.
unless, if both planets targeted the same person, which is probably more likely. theres only 6 players left (and theres a good chance that both planets targeted me since i revealed as double-tap)
(y'know, it would be really funny if they do that again this night)
(yes please target me again :3c)
VOTE: Aireunaeus
It seems likely they were targeting you, a confirmed townie is always a pain during the day for scums.nominomu wrote:
also how were there literally no eliminations last night? im expecting that the ice planet may have targeted fire which activated the bulletproof (ice planet kills were successful in nights 1, 2, and 3, which means the bulletproof hasn't been activated until possibly night 4). but then that means fire planet didnt target anyone last night, which is strange.
unless, if both planets targeted the same person, which is probably more likely. theres only 6 players left (and theres a good chance that both planets targeted me since i revealed as double-tap)
(y'know, it would be really funny if they do that again this night)
(yes please target me again :3c)
Also, while I understand the desire to gamble, not quite sure if it has to be Aireunaeus. To me he seems less suspicious than others (not by a large margin however).
I checked and not only him, but both Joon and Rezq were also seen talking on nights.nominomu wrote:
lets vote for the other suspicious person, i think he was seen awake and talking in the middle of the night as well
OVERDUSTFIVA wrote:
I'm also very surprised that you speak in the public at night as the third rules-breakerAireunaeus wrote:
I'm really surprised that noone responded after 2 days
I did not even realize it was night lol. man, i should've read the title next time.nominomu wrote:
lets vote for the other suspicious person, i think he was seen awake and talking in the middle of the night as well
VOTE: Aireunaeus
Can't deny this honestly, it was a pure gamble so these results were always possible. Which is why I would spend more time voting and thinking about votes on this day to avoid doing that again. Last thing we want is to turn last days into thoughtless bandwagons.Aireunaeus wrote:
It wasn't really a great idea to eliminate gamla. But that's pretty suspicious that kobold and a few others easily agreed to it without any proper suspicion about him.
voting someone because they speak "weird" is just... lolAireunaeus wrote:
On the other hand, I do kinda suspect gamla as a scum, because smart guy telling that he’s "100% not a scum". That kinda reminds me like the word "definitely" Or "totally". these words remind me that they'll use them in an ironic way. so it could be a possibility that gamla is a scum by any chance. Soo
VOTE: GamlA
would vote but someone could hammer
on the other hand, joon yorigami could be scum and just forgot to vote just like julian. hes been awfully quiet since last day.
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VOTE COUNT 5.1
- Aireunaeus(E-2): nominomu, Rezq
- Not voting: (4 players)
The soft day deadline is in 5 August, 12:00 UTC.
Topic Starter
The day will end if no post is posted in 12 hours.
are you guys fucking for real?
vote: aireunaeus
vote: aireunaeus
i think thats invalid, 'vote' needs to be uppercase (eww uppercase)ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
are you guys fucking for real?
vote: aireunaeus
also before we hammer we should probably decide if aireunaeus is suspicious enough, we dont really need to be certain since theres so few players left but there should be some evidence if we want to execute, and looking back it seems like there is a bit such as not supporting voting and starting the bandwagon on gamia (although im also partly responsible for that), might not be enough to justify an execution though
I have doubts it's him, he wasn't really doing anything THAT suspicious. Also worth mentioning he nonchalantly defended Julian on day 3, which under normal circumstances would be risky, because that would put him under suspicion too if he was an ice planet along with Julian.
You could argue he was genuinely worried for his ice planet comrade however, but to me it doesn't seems like it.
You could argue he was genuinely worried for his ice planet comrade however, but to me it doesn't seems like it.
Topic Starter
The vote is invalid. To vote, type "VOTE: <playername>" in bold face (for this forum,ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
are you guys fucking for real?
vote: aireunaeus
[b] tags). Anything otherwise would not constitute a vote. After some thinking I decided to vote as well, mostly because of the same thing I typed yesterday. Could still be the fire planet after all, and it would make sense for the ice planet as well.
VOTE: Aireunaeus
VOTE: Aireunaeus
Topic Starter
Prodding REZQ, CleverlandMybro and Aireunaeus.
Sorry
Rezq wrote:
Sorry
VOTE: Aireunaeus
sorry for hammering. i have nothing to add tbh. too busy with stuff for now.
sorry for hammering. i have nothing to add tbh. too busy with stuff for now.
Topic Starter
Aireunaeus is a Vanilla Tile, too...as the second one to be cleared out.Sigh...
Let's see where did they die...
ΩΩPARTS... it's quite an important part of the game.
Aireunaeus is executed. They are a Vanilla Tile.
Night 5 has started. The night deadline is in 6 August, 3:00 UTC. Please submit the night action via PM to me if you have one.
WARNING: The next one who post in the night will be modkilled.
Let's see where did they die...
ΩΩPARTS... it's quite an important part of the game.
VOTE COUNT 5.FINAL
- Aireunaeus(Eliminated): nominomu, Rezq, Kobold84, CleverlandMybro
- Not voting: (2 players)
Aireunaeus is executed. They are a Vanilla Tile.
Night 5 has started. The night deadline is in 6 August, 3:00 UTC. Please submit the night action via PM to me if you have one.
WARNING: The next one who post in the night will be modkilled.
Topic Starter
Nominomu is killed by the Ice Planet and they are the other part of the Double-tap Tile. Finally, they get together.
Let's see where did they die...
RJ-X, the beginning(and maybe the end) of true-double-tap.
Rezq is killed by the Fire Planet and they are the Ice Planet...hey what? The Fire Planet? Let's see where did they die...
Ahhhhh the annihilation from the heaven and the hell.
Let's see where did they die...
RJ-X, the beginning(and maybe the end) of true-double-tap.
Rezq is killed by the Fire Planet and they are the Ice Planet...hey what? The Fire Planet? Let's see where did they die...
Ahhhhh the annihilation from the heaven and the hell.
Day6 has started. The soft day deadline is in 11 August, 4:00 UTC. The day deadline will not be in effect until I find a replacement for Joon Yorigami or he returns. If the replacement happens, the deadline would be extended.
Joon Yorigami is being replaced.
yo yhuan (or whoever is replacing him) vote for kobold. we got em.
VOTE: Kobold84
VOTE: Kobold84
yhuan (or whoever is replacing him)lol
Why would that be me? Well, probably no reason to argue with you about it now, considering there's no one left.
VOTE: ClevelandsMyBro