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Julian_Kaiser
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Julian_Kaiser

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

GamlA wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
Are you absolutely sure that it couldn't be anyone else?
its honestly the best lead we have right now. unless someone else is silenced for the entire duration of the night then its very possible julian is fire planet.

@Julian_Kaiser clear yourself
I haven't been online much because of too much busy things going around, and school and other activities.

Seeing the fire planet's failure to execute a kill on the first night, either:
•Golden planet protected the victim.
or
•Fire planet targetted someone from ice planet and bullet protection was effective.
else or,
•Fire planet did not target anyone.
I'm considering that one of the first two is more likely to happen.

Also,

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

YyottaCat wrote:

Please clear yourself, I AM VERY SMART.
I just said that GamlA is safe because too many people vote for them.

But of course I am defending my scum partner, of course.
There's a chance this isn't satire.
Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou
Damn, all the vanilla tiles all killed by the ice planets
Kobold84
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Kobold84
Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
But fire planets are weird, ignoring that no-kill moment first night, I wouldn't really expect them to come for Shaun last night, IAMVERYSMART actions on the first day were suspicious as well. I assume they had an internal fight at night #1, then the one left alive proceeded to kill Shaun, who was extremely inactive at the time, for whatever reason.

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
Kobold84
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Kobold84

Aireunaeus wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Noone to suspect right now, lack of activity
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you think

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
especially this
i don't think kaiser is really a scum due to him being inactive in this game. he could be one but it highly doubt it. gamla is definetly not a scum either. and we can also confirm that noumi is also not a scum. he rarely posts there and only posts if heipizu prodds him

so my suspects are pretty much noone
Not entirely sold on this idea of inactivity = vanilla, if the last game taught me anything it's that being inactive doesn't clear your status. "definitely not a scum" is a very strong sentence, but that's just wishful thinking, if anything that makes you suspicious.
Rezq Gokou
1,415 posts
Joined April 2022
Rezq Gokou
Yeah, maybe even the silent ones are the fire or ice
Aireunaeus
3,113 posts
Joined December 2021
Aireunaeus

Kobold84 wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Noone to suspect right now, lack of activity
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you think

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
especially this
i don't think kaiser is really a scum due to him being inactive in this game. he could be one but it highly doubt it. gamla is definetly not a scum either. and we can also confirm that noumi is also not a scum. he rarely posts there and only posts if heipizu prodds him

so my suspects are pretty much noone
Not entirely sold on this idea of inactivity = vanilla, if the last game taught me anything it's that being inactive doesn't clear your status. "definitely not a scum" is a very strong sentence, but that's just wishful thinking, if anything that makes you suspicious.
I said "definitely not a scum" because gamla felt pessimistic at the end and decided to vote himself cuz he thought he would be voted out. That's why I doubt that he's not a scum at all. (But ngl his PFP really fits as a fire planet lol)
GamlA
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GamlA

Kobold84 wrote:

Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
So this implies that the Ice Planets are able to recognise potential threats. Sam and Yyotta were very vocal in the previous days, so I understand.

Kobold84 wrote:

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
How do you propose we do this?
Aireunaeus
3,113 posts
Joined December 2021
Aireunaeus

GamlA wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
How do you propose we do this?
What do you mean with "we"? That’s kinda suspicious what you’re using. At least for me
Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou

GamlA wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
So this implies that the Ice Planets are able to recognise potential threats. Sam and Yyotta were very vocal in the previous days, so I understand.
I see, I never really played mafia type games online before. So I have no idea
Kobold84
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Kobold84

Aireunaeus wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Joon Yorigami wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

Noone to suspect right now, lack of activity
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you think

Joon Yorigami wrote:

wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
especially this
i don't think kaiser is really a scum due to him being inactive in this game. he could be one but it highly doubt it. gamla is definetly not a scum either. and we can also confirm that noumi is also not a scum. he rarely posts there and only posts if heipizu prodds him

so my suspects are pretty much noone
Not entirely sold on this idea of inactivity = vanilla, if the last game taught me anything it's that being inactive doesn't clear your status. "definitely not a scum" is a very strong sentence, but that's just wishful thinking, if anything that makes you suspicious.
I said "definitely not a scum" because gamla felt pessimistic at the end and decided to vote himself cuz he thought he would be voted out. That's why I doubt that he's not a scum at all. (But ngl his PFP really fits as a fire planet lol)
Seeing as IAVS was even more pessimistic, this really doesn't explain much. Personally, I don't suspect him that much, but not for this reason.
Kobold84
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Kobold84

GamlA wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
How do you propose we do this?
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".

VOTE: nominomu
nominomu
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nominomu

Kobold84 wrote:

GamlA wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
How do you propose we do this?
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".

VOTE: nominomu
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)
Kobold84
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Kobold84

nominomu wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

GamlA wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
How do you propose we do this?
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".

VOTE: nominomu
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)
What you are saying is reasonable, especially the second part. I remember there was a similar pattern in Aireunaeus actions in a previous mafia game where he was a scum. All days were him saying something along the lines of "there's no one suspicious for me, I'll abstain from voting" and that led to scum outnumbering vanillas. Could just be playing style shenanigans rather than a role-dependent behaviour, but honestly it lines up with how the ice planet operates almost too well.

VOTE: Aireunaeus
Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou
I have no idea who to vote, so I will just follow other

VOTE: Aireunaeus
Joon Yorigami
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Joon Yorigami
wagon time

VOTE: Aireunaeus
heipizhu
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heipizhu
"Hey, since there are double-taps, are there any triple-taps?"
"Of course. But their true names is fake-double-tap (except in RJ-X) and fake-triple-tap."
"Wait, what? Oh, noooooooooooo"

VOTE COUNT 3.1

  1. Aireunaeus(E-2): Kobold84, REZQ, Joon Yorigami
  2. Not voting: (6 players)
With 9 players alive plus one missing, it takes 5 to execute.

The soft day deadline is in 23 July, 12:00 UTC.
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Aireunaeus
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Aireunaeus

Kobold84 wrote:

nominomu wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

GamlA wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
How do you propose we do this?
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".

VOTE: nominomu
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)
What you are saying is reasonable, especially the second part. I remember there was a similar pattern in Aireunaeus actions in a previous mafia game where he was a scum. All days were him saying something along the lines of "there's no one suspicious for me, I'll abstain from voting" and that led to scum outnumbering vanillas. Could just be playing style shenanigans rather than a role-dependent behaviour, but honestly it lines up with how the ice planet operates almost too well.

VOTE: Aireunaeus
Well the reason why i didn’t want to vote anyone out (even the people whom are inactive), is because there is a lack of evidence that they are a scum. I can’t just vote a random guy and they’ll end up as a vanilla type. If someone makes a suspicious move then i actually would vote them of course. I do confirm that just voting out noone is kinda a dumb move but I’ll be more active into finding suspicious and vote anyone. It’s my 3rd time playing an online mafia game.
nominomu
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nominomu
i'll stay out of voting for now until there's a stronger consensus, but any good mafia wouldnt just go "hey i'm the mafia!" in the chat or say anything that basically confirms they're mafia, its more about who's more suspicious than others, if no one gets voted out then the mafias won't get voted out, and the only way to stop the mafias is to vote them out
Kobold84
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Kobold84

Aireunaeus wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

nominomu wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

GamlA wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
How do you propose we do this?
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".

VOTE: nominomu
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)
What you are saying is reasonable, especially the second part. I remember there was a similar pattern in Aireunaeus actions in a previous mafia game where he was a scum. All days were him saying something along the lines of "there's no one suspicious for me, I'll abstain from voting" and that led to scum outnumbering vanillas. Could just be playing style shenanigans rather than a role-dependent behaviour, but honestly it lines up with how the ice planet operates almost too well.

VOTE: Aireunaeus
Well the reason why i didn’t want to vote anyone out (even the people whom are inactive), is because there is a lack of evidence that they are a scum. I can’t just vote a random guy and they’ll end up as a vanilla type. If someone makes a suspicious move then i actually would vote them of course. I do confirm that just voting out noone is kinda a dumb move but I’ll be more active into finding suspicious and vote anyone. It’s my 3rd time playing an online mafia game.
Just like nominomu pointed out, suspicious moves don't come out of nowhere, you have to use your words and your vote if you want to force people into unfavorable positions. Yes, certainly we don't want to vote out vanillas, but your vote alone doesn't get the target executed on the spot. See how much we got just from this short exchange? And no one died (yet). It's okay to be wrong, just find whoever's looking the most dubious to you.

But well, whatever, passive playstyle is fine too, but if the majority of players is indecisive like that, then the game is pretty much decided.
WELUVMYUKA
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WELUVMYUKA
I have no idea who to vote, so I will just follow other

VOTE: Aireunaeus
Kobold84
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Kobold84
I'm not saying you shouldn't follow my votes, but blindly doing that without agreeing with my suspicions or providing your own is not right too.
:cry: :cry: :cry:

If I was a scum and then chose a vanilla just like that, you would execute an innocent person by bandwagoning. Perhaps it's better this way, instead of a slow death we get a few risky votes here and there, but it sure doesn't sit right with me.
heipizhu
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Joined March 2022
Topic Starter
heipizhu
I'll call this a day if no posts are posted in the following 10 hours.
heipizhu
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Topic Starter
heipizhu

VOTE COUNT 3.FINAL

  1. Aireunaeus(E-1): Kobold84, REZQ, Joon Yorigami, WELUVMYUKA
  2. Not voting: (5 players)
With 9 players alive plus one missing, it takes 5 to execute.

No one is executed.

Night 3 has started. Please submit your night action via pm to me. The night deadline is in 24 July, 15:00 UTC.
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Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou

Kobold84 wrote:

Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
But fire planets are weird, ignoring that no-kill moment first night, I wouldn't really expect them to come for Shaun last night, IAMVERYSMART actions on the first day were suspicious as well. I assume they had an internal fight at night #1, then the one left alive proceeded to kill Shaun, who was extremely inactive at the time, for whatever reason.

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
Wait, does this mean you will be targeted as well because you are pretty active and experienced?
OVERDUSTFIVA
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OVERDUSTFIVA

Rezq wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
But fire planets are weird, ignoring that no-kill moment first night, I wouldn't really expect them to come for Shaun last night, IAMVERYSMART actions on the first day were suspicious as well. I assume they had an internal fight at night #1, then the one left alive proceeded to kill Shaun, who was extremely inactive at the time, for whatever reason.

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
Wait, does this mean you will be targeted as well because you are pretty active and experienced?
hey, I warn you again, no night-public-conversation, if you want to say something, please speak it out earlier
heipizhu
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Topic Starter
heipizhu
WELUVMYUKA is hit out by the Ice Planets and they are part of the Double-tap Tile.
that's the result of talking too little.
let's see where did they die...
WTF IS THIS, THAT'S FUCKING 21.2+ AND HELL.


Julian_Kaiser is killed by Fire Planet and they are... an Ice Planet? quite strange...
let's see where did they die...
eh... multi arm, really classic.
Day 4 has started. The soft day deadline is in 29 July, 15:00 UTC.
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heipizhu
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Topic Starter
heipizhu

VOTE COUNT 4.0

  1. Not voting: (7 players)
With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to execute.

The soft day deadline is in 29 July, 15:00 UTC.
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Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou
I thought ice was going to kill kobold...
Aireunaeus
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Aireunaeus

Rezq wrote:

I thought ice was going to kill kobold...
hmmm this sentence is a bit sus
Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou

Aireunaeus wrote:

Rezq wrote:

I thought ice was going to kill kobold...
hmmm this sentence is a bit sus

Rezq wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
But fire planets are weird, ignoring that no-kill moment first night, I wouldn't really expect them to come for Shaun last night, IAMVERYSMART actions on the first day were suspicious as well. I assume they had an internal fight at night #1, then the one left alive proceeded to kill Shaun, who was extremely inactive at the time, for whatever reason.

Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
Wait, does this mean you will be targeted as well because you are pretty active and experienced?
Kobold84
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Kobold84
Yes, it's true that I seem like a legitimate target, but this doesn't mean it is what will happen. Two possible scenarios that could be in play:
a) it's a ploy to make me seem as a scum, it also redirects discussions from "who is suspicious" to "why is kobold not targetted", seems simple but works well, I assume even if it's true there's some hidden meaning to it as well;
b) ice planet decided to not target me because they don't render me as much of a threat compared to a possible fire planet member, for example, who they are trying to get rid.

The second scenario also implies my deduction wasn't entirely correct when I was suspecting Aireunaeus and nominomu to an extent, but doesn't clear them 100%.
Kobold84
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Kobold84
We now know Julian was a scum, so it'd be good to scrutinize their actions one more time.

Day 1: complete inaction (confirmed by being allegedly replaced by the organizator), this means whoever is an ice planet was acting alone on the first day and night. Not much information, but worth remembering. To me, that means that one ice planet scum was probably not as risky and spent the day rather passively, knowing full well their team is in a bad spot.

Day 2: Joon accused Julian to be a fire planet due to his low activity.
ClevelandsMyBro defended Julian and remarked how inactivity is more likely to indicate he's a townie. GamlA did not defend Julian, but asked about this accusation.
After a while ClevelandsMyBro decided to put suspicion on Julian as well (without voting however).
Julian defended himself and said he doesn't have a lot of free time currently, while proposing other options to who could be a scum. He also slightly accused GamIA of being a fire planet based on a post of IAVS. The latter to me speaks a lot, because his low activity does seem genuine and this accusation could spiral out of control very fast and put GamIA at a risk of being voted out. Not worth it, if he was his ice partner.

Night 2: Julian died.
Kobold84
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Kobold84
Also I know this is risky, but maybe it's a good time for a double-tap to reveal themselves. If there's only a single person coming out, this means we have one less suspect off the list as they're 100% a townie. If there'd more than one however, then one of them is 100% a scum, which is also good for us and at the very least we can decide between the two (or even three? but unlikely) instead of trying to find the suspicious person among all of us.

Since we're 5 vs 2 right now, we absolutely have to get a planet today, because otherwise the very next day our number could shrink down to 3 vs 2, which is... well, you can imagine how bad that would be.
Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou

Kobold84 wrote:

Yes, it's true that I seem like a legitimate target, but this doesn't mean it is what will happen. Two possible scenarios that could be in play:
a) it's a ploy to make me seem as a scum, it also redirects discussions from "who is suspicious" to "why is kobold not targetted", seems simple but works well, I assume even if it's true there's some hidden meaning to it as well;
b) ice planet decided to not target me because they don't render me as much of a threat compared to a possible fire planet member, for example, who they are trying to get rid.

The second scenario also implies my deduction wasn't entirely correct when I was suspecting Aireunaeus and nominomu to an extent, but doesn't clear them 100%.
Ooh, I see

Kobold84 wrote:

We now know Julian was a scum, so it'd be good to scrutinize their actions one more time.

Day 1: complete inaction (confirmed by being allegedly replaced by the organizator), this means whoever is an ice planet was acting alone on the first day and night. Not much information, but worth remembering. To me, that means that one ice planet scum was probably not as risky and spent the day rather passively, knowing full well their team is in a bad spot.

Day 2: Joon accused Julian to be a fire planet due to his low activity.
ClevelandsMyBro defended Julian and remarked how inactivity is more likely to indicate he's a townie. GamlA did not defend Julian, but asked about this accusation.
After a while ClevelandsMyBro decided to put suspicion on Julian as well (without voting however).
Julian defended himself and said he doesn't have a lot of free time currently, while proposing other options to who could be a scum. He also slightly accused GamIA of being a fire planet based on a post of IAVS. The latter to me speaks a lot, because his low activity does seem genuine and this accusation could spiral out of control very fast and put GamIA at a risk of being voted out. Not worth it, if he was his ice partner.

Night 2: Julian died.
Why did fire planet killed him though? They could have use him as a decoy
Kobold84
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Kobold84

Rezq wrote:

Why did fire planet killed him though? They could have use him as a decoy
Not sure, did they even know he was an ice planet? Even then, he didn't seem very suspicious to be used as that. My assumption is that the fire planet mostly targets relatively silent players, I guess in order to remove people who are hiding? Or they know something I don't.
GamlA
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GamlA
Now we understand, because of Julian_Kaiser's murder, that the fire planets' absence of a kill on night 1 was due to the depletion of the ice planets' bulletproof.

And because of the ice planets never missing their target, we can say that Team Fire still has their bulletproof.
Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou
Ahhh, so in the first night they targeted Julian but his bulletproof activated. So they know that Julian is one of the Ice Planet and targeted him again
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nominomu
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nominomu

Kobold84 wrote:

Also I know this is risky, but maybe it's a good time for a double-tap to reveal themselves. If there's only a single person coming out, this means we have one less suspect off the list as they're 100% a townie. If there'd more than one however, then one of them is 100% a scum, which is also good for us and at the very least we can decide between the two (or even three? but unlikely) instead of trying to find the suspicious person among all of us.

Since we're 5 vs 2 right now, we absolutely have to get a planet today, because otherwise the very next day our number could shrink down to 3 vs 2, which is... well, you can imagine how bad that would be.
thats me, im the other double-tap (or at least i claim to be)

Rezq wrote:

Ahhh, so in the first night they targeted Julian but his bulletproof activated. So they know that Julian is one of the Ice Planet and targeted him again
or, they could have targeted the other ice planet, since its a factional bulletproof, if im understanding correctly? if they did target julian 1st night i wouldnt really see a reason to wait until the 3rd night to target him again, other than maybe trying to trick us into thinking they targeted the other ice planet first night
Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou
Wait, can the golden planet kill?
OVERDUSTFIVA
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OVERDUSTFIVA

Rezq wrote:

Wait, can the golden planet kill?
no
Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou
I see. I was thinking if the gold planet hit one of the fire planet in the first night and got killed in the second night so that will make sense. But I guess no
Kobold84
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Kobold84

GamlA wrote:

Now we understand, because of Julian_Kaiser's murder, that the fire planets' absence of a kill on night 1 was due to the depletion of the ice planets' bulletproof.

And because of the ice planets never missing their target, we can say that Team Fire still has their bulletproof.
Ohh, that's a good observation, but as nominomu said this begs a question: why was Julian targeted on day 1 and then only on day 3?
Kobold84
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Kobold84
No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou
If in the first night of the game the fire planet targeted other ice planet, then they are fucked lol
heipizhu
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Topic Starter
heipizhu
The song Options, which is used in World XT, composed was slightly modified during the Drunken Python section, having a few added on beats. This song is also in the fa library and have a ranked mapset. Go on and have a look: beatmapsets/1049855:)


VOTE COUNT 4.1

  1. Not voting: (7 players)
With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to execute.

The soft day deadline is in 29 July, 15:00 UTC.


Please notice that I'll cut out the day if no posts are posted in the following 24 hours.
heipizhu
290 posts
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Topic Starter
heipizhu
Prodding CleverlandMybro and Joon Yorigami.
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ClevelandsMyBro
885 posts
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ClevelandsMyBro
prod skip

will read tomorrow bcs i kinda need sleep rn hehe
Kobold84
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Kobold84
Voting because of the bandwagon last day occurring for no reason. Maybe that would also help in reviving him.

VOTE: Joon Yorigami
Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou

Kobold84 wrote:

Voting because of the bandwagon last day occurring for no reason. Maybe that would also help in reviving him.

VOTE: Joon Yorigami
Idk about s***
VOTE: Joon Yorigami
GamlA
94 posts
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GamlA

Kobold84 wrote:

No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
Cleveland and Joon still haven't properly responded, we may need to wait for them to be sure nominomu is the Double-Tap.
Joon Yorigami
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Joon Yorigami
hi I'm alive
Joon Yorigami
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Joon Yorigami

Kobold84 wrote:

Voting because of the bandwagon last day occurring for no reason. Maybe that would also help in reviving him.

VOTE: Joon Yorigami
I just hate not having anyone lynched for 3 days straight it just seems counter-productive
ClevelandsMyBro
885 posts
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ClevelandsMyBro

Kobold84 wrote:

No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
ofc not because hes dead.

Kobold84 wrote:

Voting because of the bandwagon last day occurring for no reason. Maybe that would also help in reviving him.

VOTE: Joon Yorigami
dont think theres no reasoning behind the wagon imo. voting out someone would be beneficial at this later stages of the game. would rather take the gamble than allow scums to take control of the night but thats from my experience.
Kobold84
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Kobold84

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
ofc not because hes dead.
As I explained, one of the planets could lie and say he is a double-tap. Doesn't seem like it will be the case.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

Voting because of the bandwagon last day occurring for no reason. Maybe that would also help in reviving him.

VOTE: Joon Yorigami
dont think theres no reasoning behind the wagon imo. voting out someone would be beneficial at this later stages of the game. would rather take the gamble than allow scums to take control of the night but thats from my experience.
Well, now he did provide the reason for that, but last day it wasn't as obvious. Guess that's that.
ClevelandsMyBro
885 posts
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ClevelandsMyBro

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
ofc not because hes dead.
this could be a town or scum slip but i dont know which one
ClevelandsMyBro
885 posts
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ClevelandsMyBro
oops got ninja'd wwwwww

Kobold84 wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
ofc not because hes dead.
As I explained, one of the planets could lie and say he is a double-tap. Doesn't seem like it will be the case.
as it stands nominomu is double tap unless someone else wants to roleclaim??
Kobold84
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Kobold84
It's been 2 days since my request and nominomu claimed to be one, so yeah, guess that settles it. The only one who did not post anything yet is Aireunaeus.
Aireunaeus
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Aireunaeus

Kobold84 wrote:

It's been 2 days since my request and nominomu claimed to be one, so yeah, guess that settles it. The only one who did not post anything yet is Aireunaeus.
I didn't even know what to say or respond due to me sometimes having difficulty understanding the context of the words or what they mean. But i try very hard to respond on that

On the other hand, I do kinda suspect gamla as a scum, because smart guy telling that he’s "100% not a scum". That kinda reminds me like the word "definitely" Or "totally". these words remind me that they'll use them in an ironic way. so it could be a possibility that gamla is a scum by any chance. Soo
VOTE: GamlA
Aireunaeus
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Aireunaeus
VOTE:GamlA
heipizhu
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Topic Starter
heipizhu
Prodding nominomu
nominomu
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nominomu

Aireunaeus wrote:

Kobold84 wrote:

It's been 2 days since my request and nominomu claimed to be one, so yeah, guess that settles it. The only one who did not post anything yet is Aireunaeus.
I didn't even know what to say or respond due to me sometimes having difficulty understanding the context of the words or what they mean. But i try very hard to respond on that

On the other hand, I do kinda suspect gamla as a scum, because smart guy telling that he’s "100% not a scum". That kinda reminds me like the word "definitely" Or "totally". these words remind me that they'll use them in an ironic way. so it could be a possibility that gamla is a scum by any chance. Soo
VOTE: GamlA
this, along with the pfp :3c

VOTE: GamIA
heipizhu
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heipizhu
"Could we just stop spinning? I'm kind of tired."
"NO."
"Why?"
"We both have the gravitation, so stopping spinning means the only thing, death."
"So what can we do?"
"Only run."

VOTE COUNT 4.2

  1. Joon Yorigami(E-2): Kobold84, Rezq
  2. Gamla(E-2): Aireunaeus, nominomu
  3. Not voting: (3 players)
With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to execute.

The soft day deadline is in 29 July, 15:00 UTC.
Kobold84
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Kobold84
Welp, I hope it's a good idea, but I guess it's the best lead we have, even if it's exceptionally thin.

VOTE: GamIA
Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou
True

VOTE:GamlA
heipizhu
290 posts
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Topic Starter
heipizhu
GamlA is a Vanilla Tile... for the first one to be cleared out. What a pity!
Let's see where did they die...
TremENDouS... now it's nearly the end of the game or their life.

VOTE COUNT 4.FINAL

  1. GamlA(Eliminated): Aireunaeus, nominomu, Kobold84, REZQ
  2. Not voting: (3 players)
With 7 players alive, it takes 4 to execute.

GamlA is executed. They are a Vanilla Tile.
Night 4 has started. The night deadline is in 31 July, 8:00 UTC. Please submit the night action via PM to me if you have one.
Aireunaeus
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Aireunaeus
I'm really surprised that noone responded after 2 days
Aireunaeus
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Aireunaeus
It wasn't really a great idea to eliminate gamla. But that's pretty suspicious that kobold and a few others easily agreed to it without any proper suspicion about him.
OVERDUSTFIVA
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OVERDUSTFIVA

Aireunaeus wrote:

I'm really surprised that noone responded after 2 days
I'm also very surprised that you speak in the public at night as the third rules-breaker
heipizhu
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Topic Starter
heipizhu
Nobody died, ah... It was a peaceful night.
Hmm...let's me show something else.
Yeah, it was a fotgotten night, too.
Day 5 has started. The soft day deadline is in 5 August, 12:00 UTC.

WARNING: Do not post during the night. The day will only start after I make the post. The next one who posts during the night will be modkilled.
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heipizhu
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Topic Starter
heipizhu

VOTE COUNT 5.0

  1. Not voting: (6 players)
With 6 players alive, it takes 4 to execute.

The soft day deadline is in 5 August, 12:00 UTC.
nominomu
717 posts
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nominomu
lets vote for the other suspicious person, i think he was seen awake and talking in the middle of the night as well

VOTE: Aireunaeus
nominomu
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nominomu
also how were there literally no eliminations last night? im expecting that the ice planet may have targeted fire which activated the bulletproof (ice planet kills were successful in nights 1, 2, and 3, which means the bulletproof hasn't been activated until possibly night 4). but then that means fire planet didnt target anyone last night, which is strange.

unless, if both planets targeted the same person, which is probably more likely. theres only 6 players left (and theres a good chance that both planets targeted me since i revealed as double-tap)

(y'know, it would be really funny if they do that again this night)

(yes please target me again :3c)
Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou

nominomu wrote:

also how were there literally no eliminations last night? im expecting that the ice planet may have targeted fire which activated the bulletproof (ice planet kills were successful in nights 1, 2, and 3, which means the bulletproof hasn't been activated until possibly night 4). but then that means fire planet didnt target anyone last night, which is strange.

unless, if both planets targeted the same person, which is probably more likely. theres only 6 players left (and theres a good chance that both planets targeted me since i revealed as double-tap)

(y'know, it would be really funny if they do that again this night)

(yes please target me again :3c)
I think that both of the planets targeted the same person, it makes more sense because no one has been killed last night. Maybe ice planet broken the fire's protection may or may not be true, but that means the fire planet didn't kill anyone last night, which is unlikely. Anyways, the same tactics as before, it's better gamble for the vote rather just do nothing. So,

VOTE: Aireunaeus
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Kobold84
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Kobold84

nominomu wrote:

also how were there literally no eliminations last night? im expecting that the ice planet may have targeted fire which activated the bulletproof (ice planet kills were successful in nights 1, 2, and 3, which means the bulletproof hasn't been activated until possibly night 4). but then that means fire planet didnt target anyone last night, which is strange.

unless, if both planets targeted the same person, which is probably more likely. theres only 6 players left (and theres a good chance that both planets targeted me since i revealed as double-tap)

(y'know, it would be really funny if they do that again this night)

(yes please target me again :3c)
It seems likely they were targeting you, a confirmed townie is always a pain during the day for scums.

Also, while I understand the desire to gamble, not quite sure if it has to be Aireunaeus. To me he seems less suspicious than others (not by a large margin however).

nominomu wrote:

lets vote for the other suspicious person, i think he was seen awake and talking in the middle of the night as well
I checked and not only him, but both Joon and Rezq were also seen talking on nights.
Aireunaeus
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Aireunaeus

OVERDUSTFIVA wrote:

Aireunaeus wrote:

I'm really surprised that noone responded after 2 days
I'm also very surprised that you speak in the public at night as the third rules-breaker

nominomu wrote:

lets vote for the other suspicious person, i think he was seen awake and talking in the middle of the night as well

VOTE: Aireunaeus
I did not even realize it was night lol. man, i should've read the title next time.
Kobold84
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Kobold84

Aireunaeus wrote:

It wasn't really a great idea to eliminate gamla. But that's pretty suspicious that kobold and a few others easily agreed to it without any proper suspicion about him.
Can't deny this honestly, it was a pure gamble so these results were always possible. Which is why I would spend more time voting and thinking about votes on this day to avoid doing that again. Last thing we want is to turn last days into thoughtless bandwagons.
ClevelandsMyBro
885 posts
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ClevelandsMyBro

Aireunaeus wrote:

On the other hand, I do kinda suspect gamla as a scum, because smart guy telling that he’s "100% not a scum". That kinda reminds me like the word "definitely" Or "totally". these words remind me that they'll use them in an ironic way. so it could be a possibility that gamla is a scum by any chance. Soo
VOTE: GamlA
voting someone because they speak "weird" is just... lol

would vote but someone could hammer
ClevelandsMyBro
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ClevelandsMyBro
on the other hand, joon yorigami could be scum and just forgot to vote just like julian. hes been awfully quiet since last day.
OVERDUSTFIVA
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OVERDUSTFIVA
Tips: There are many osu original songs used in ADOFAI community maps. For example, some of the most popular songs: ΩΩPARTS, TremENDouS, nttld, of Ambrosia, Purple Palace(I guess)…
Also, Camellia, Frums may be the most famous artists in ADOFAI, if you want to see how difficult the maps of their songs can be, come and play ADOFAI!

VOTE COUNT 5.1

  1. Aireunaeus(E-2): nominomu, Rezq
  2. Not voting: (4 players)
With 6 players alive, it takes 4 to execute.

The soft day deadline is in 5 August, 12:00 UTC.
heipizhu
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Topic Starter
heipizhu
The day will end if no post is posted in 12 hours.
ClevelandsMyBro
885 posts
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ClevelandsMyBro
are you guys fucking for real?

vote: aireunaeus
nominomu
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nominomu

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

are you guys fucking for real?

vote: aireunaeus
i think thats invalid, 'vote' needs to be uppercase (eww uppercase)

also before we hammer we should probably decide if aireunaeus is suspicious enough, we dont really need to be certain since theres so few players left but there should be some evidence if we want to execute, and looking back it seems like there is a bit such as not supporting voting and starting the bandwagon on gamia (although im also partly responsible for that), might not be enough to justify an execution though
Kobold84
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Kobold84
I have doubts it's him, he wasn't really doing anything THAT suspicious. Also worth mentioning he nonchalantly defended Julian on day 3, which under normal circumstances would be risky, because that would put him under suspicion too if he was an ice planet along with Julian.
You could argue he was genuinely worried for his ice planet comrade however, but to me it doesn't seems like it.
heipizhu
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Topic Starter
heipizhu

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

are you guys fucking for real?

vote: aireunaeus
The vote is invalid. To vote, type "VOTE: <playername>" in bold face (for this forum, [b] tags). Anything otherwise would not constitute a vote.
heipizhu
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heipizhu
Prodding Joon Yorigami.
Kobold84
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Kobold84
After some thinking I decided to vote as well, mostly because of the same thing I typed yesterday. Could still be the fire planet after all, and it would make sense for the ice planet as well.

VOTE: Aireunaeus
heipizhu
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Topic Starter
heipizhu
Prodding REZQ, CleverlandMybro and Aireunaeus.
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Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou
Sorry
Aireunaeus
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Aireunaeus

Rezq wrote:

Sorry
ClevelandsMyBro
885 posts
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ClevelandsMyBro
VOTE: Aireunaeus

sorry for hammering. i have nothing to add tbh. too busy with stuff for now.
heipizhu
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Topic Starter
heipizhu
Aireunaeus is a Vanilla Tile, too...as the second one to be cleared out.Sigh...
Let's see where did they die...
ΩΩPARTS... it's quite an important part of the game.

VOTE COUNT 5.FINAL

  1. Aireunaeus(Eliminated): nominomu, Rezq, Kobold84, CleverlandMybro
  2. Not voting: (2 players)
With 6 players alive, it takes 4 to execute.

Aireunaeus is executed. They are a Vanilla Tile.
Night 5 has started. The night deadline is in 6 August, 3:00 UTC. Please submit the night action via PM to me if you have one.


WARNING: The next one who post in the night will be modkilled.
heipizhu
290 posts
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Topic Starter
heipizhu
Nominomu is killed by the Ice Planet and they are the other part of the Double-tap Tile. Finally, they get together.
Let's see where did they die...
RJ-X, the beginning(and maybe the end) of true-double-tap.

Rezq is killed by the Fire Planet and they are the Ice Planet...hey what? The Fire Planet? Let's see where did they die...
Ahhhhh the annihilation from the heaven and the hell.


Day6 has started. The soft day deadline is in 11 August, 4:00 UTC. The day deadline will not be in effect until I find a replacement for Joon Yorigami or he returns. If the replacement happens, the deadline would be extended.

Joon Yorigami is being replaced.
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ClevelandsMyBro
885 posts
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ClevelandsMyBro
yo yhuan (or whoever is replacing him) vote for kobold. we got em.

VOTE: Kobold84
Kobold84
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Kobold84
yhuan (or whoever is replacing him)
lol

Why would that be me? Well, probably no reason to argue with you about it now, considering there's no one left.

VOTE: ClevelandsMyBro
ClevelandsMyBro
885 posts
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ClevelandsMyBro
since we both vote for each other, its a 50/50 IF one of us are scum.

it is however 100% scum win if joon is scum

BUT

joon being prodded today means he is not scum since he would need to be active during the night for the kill.

its so obvious kobold is scum but its still in the hands of the hammer
Joon Yorigami
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Joon Yorigami
hi I'm here I genuinely forgot about this
Joon Yorigami
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Joon Yorigami
I'm not really sure myself who to hammer here, I have (in some way) cleared myself so I'll just wait for you guys
ClevelandsMyBro
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ClevelandsMyBro

Joon Yorigami wrote:

I'm not really sure myself who to hammer here, I have (in some way) cleared myself so I'll just wait for you guys
ok the fact that you havent hammered yet makes me confident you are town.
Kobold84
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Kobold84
Being prodded already made that clear.

Don't know if there's much to explain, you're free to make your own judgement on this deadlock between us, you yourself should decide who's more suspicious. Think clearly and check previous logs if needed. Clevelands is almost desperately trying to win over you now, but that makes sense either way, as this is the last stand.
Obviously you HAVE TO make that decision on this day, or mafia wins automatically.
ClevelandsMyBro
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ClevelandsMyBro
@yhuan whats your thoughts right now?
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