Nahh all good, i get it 😄WELUVMYUKA wrote:
I'm so sorryAireunaeus wrote:
Why Me?? i did nothing wrong 😭😭WELUVMYUKA wrote:
Idk say what VOTE: AIR(
Nahh all good, i get it 😄WELUVMYUKA wrote:
I'm so sorryAireunaeus wrote:
Why Me?? i did nothing wrong 😭😭WELUVMYUKA wrote:
Idk say what VOTE: AIR(
I still think this can be true soJoon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
why do you think inactivity = scum? in fact i think his lack of activity may suggest he's just a townie. if he WAS a scum then he wouldn't act so nonchalantly to being absolutely inactive throughout day 1. plus his last post was from 4 days ago.Joon Yorigami wrote:
I still think this can be true soJoon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
Vote: Julian_Kaiser
no action for fire planet last night (or at least I think that's the case)ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
why do you think inactivity = scum? in fact i think his lack of activity may suggest he's just a townie. if he WAS a scum then he wouldn't act so nonchalantly to being absolutely inactive throughout day 1. plus his last post was from 4 days ago.Joon Yorigami wrote:
I still think this can be true soJoon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
Vote: Julian_Kaiser
but sure. lets say he IS scum. now what i want to know is why do you think he is fire planet.
Are you absolutely sure that it couldn't be anyone else?Joon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
its honestly the best lead we have right now. unless someone else is silenced for the entire duration of the night then its very possible julian is fire planet.GamlA wrote:
Are you absolutely sure that it couldn't be anyone else?Joon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you thinkAireunaeus wrote:
Noone to suspect right now, lack of activity
especially thisJoon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
hey, it's already night, you can't speak in publicJoon Yorigami wrote:
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you thinkAireunaeus wrote:
Noone to suspect right now, lack of activityespecially thisJoon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
i don't think kaiser is really a scum due to him being inactive in this game. he could be one but it highly doubt it. gamla is definetly not a scum either. and we can also confirm that noumi is also not a scum. he rarely posts there and only posts if heipizu prodds himJoon Yorigami wrote:
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you thinkAireunaeus wrote:
Noone to suspect right now, lack of activityespecially thisJoon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
so that leaves just you then.Aireunaeus wrote:
so my suspects are pretty much noone
I haven't been online much because of too much busy things going around, and school and other activities.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
its honestly the best lead we have right now. unless someone else is silenced for the entire duration of the night then its very possible julian is fire planet.GamlA wrote:
Are you absolutely sure that it couldn't be anyone else?Joon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
@Julian_Kaiser clear yourself
There's a chance this isn't satire.I AM VERY SMART wrote:
I just said that GamlA is safe because too many people vote for them.YyottaCat wrote:
Please clear yourself, I AM VERY SMART.
But of course I am defending my scum partner, of course.
Not entirely sold on this idea of inactivity = vanilla, if the last game taught me anything it's that being inactive doesn't clear your status. "definitely not a scum" is a very strong sentence, but that's just wishful thinking, if anything that makes you suspicious.Aireunaeus wrote:
i don't think kaiser is really a scum due to him being inactive in this game. he could be one but it highly doubt it. gamla is definetly not a scum either. and we can also confirm that noumi is also not a scum. he rarely posts there and only posts if heipizu prodds himJoon Yorigami wrote:
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you thinkAireunaeus wrote:
Noone to suspect right now, lack of activityespecially thisJoon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
so my suspects are pretty much noone
I said "definitely not a scum" because gamla felt pessimistic at the end and decided to vote himself cuz he thought he would be voted out. That's why I doubt that he's not a scum at all. (But ngl his PFP really fits as a fire planet lol)Kobold84 wrote:
Not entirely sold on this idea of inactivity = vanilla, if the last game taught me anything it's that being inactive doesn't clear your status. "definitely not a scum" is a very strong sentence, but that's just wishful thinking, if anything that makes you suspicious.Aireunaeus wrote:
i don't think kaiser is really a scum due to him being inactive in this game. he could be one but it highly doubt it. gamla is definetly not a scum either. and we can also confirm that noumi is also not a scum. he rarely posts there and only posts if heipizu prodds himJoon Yorigami wrote:
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you thinkAireunaeus wrote:
Noone to suspect right now, lack of activityespecially thisJoon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
so my suspects are pretty much noone
So this implies that the Ice Planets are able to recognise potential threats. Sam and Yyotta were very vocal in the previous days, so I understand.Kobold84 wrote:
Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
How do you propose we do this?Kobold84 wrote:
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
What do you mean with "we"? That’s kinda suspicious what you’re using. At least for meGamlA wrote:
How do you propose we do this?Kobold84 wrote:
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
I see, I never really played mafia type games online before. So I have no ideaGamlA wrote:
So this implies that the Ice Planets are able to recognise potential threats. Sam and Yyotta were very vocal in the previous days, so I understand.Kobold84 wrote:
Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
Seeing as IAVS was even more pessimistic, this really doesn't explain much. Personally, I don't suspect him that much, but not for this reason.Aireunaeus wrote:
I said "definitely not a scum" because gamla felt pessimistic at the end and decided to vote himself cuz he thought he would be voted out. That's why I doubt that he's not a scum at all. (But ngl his PFP really fits as a fire planet lol)Kobold84 wrote:
Not entirely sold on this idea of inactivity = vanilla, if the last game taught me anything it's that being inactive doesn't clear your status. "definitely not a scum" is a very strong sentence, but that's just wishful thinking, if anything that makes you suspicious.Aireunaeus wrote:
i don't think kaiser is really a scum due to him being inactive in this game. he could be one but it highly doubt it. gamla is definetly not a scum either. and we can also confirm that noumi is also not a scum. he rarely posts there and only posts if heipizu prodds himJoon Yorigami wrote:
can you at least give insights on current posts about what you thinkAireunaeus wrote:
Noone to suspect right now, lack of activityespecially thisJoon Yorigami wrote:
wait is it possible that julian is the other fire planet due to inactivity for day 1
so my suspects are pretty much noone
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.GamlA wrote:
How do you propose we do this?Kobold84 wrote:
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)Kobold84 wrote:
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.GamlA wrote:
How do you propose we do this?Kobold84 wrote:
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".
VOTE: nominomu
What you are saying is reasonable, especially the second part. I remember there was a similar pattern in Aireunaeus actions in a previous mafia game where he was a scum. All days were him saying something along the lines of "there's no one suspicious for me, I'll abstain from voting" and that led to scum outnumbering vanillas. Could just be playing style shenanigans rather than a role-dependent behaviour, but honestly it lines up with how the ice planet operates almost too well.nominomu wrote:
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)Kobold84 wrote:
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.GamlA wrote:
How do you propose we do this?Kobold84 wrote:
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".
VOTE: nominomu
Well the reason why i didn’t want to vote anyone out (even the people whom are inactive), is because there is a lack of evidence that they are a scum. I can’t just vote a random guy and they’ll end up as a vanilla type. If someone makes a suspicious move then i actually would vote them of course. I do confirm that just voting out noone is kinda a dumb move but I’ll be more active into finding suspicious and vote anyone. It’s my 3rd time playing an online mafia game.Kobold84 wrote:
What you are saying is reasonable, especially the second part. I remember there was a similar pattern in Aireunaeus actions in a previous mafia game where he was a scum. All days were him saying something along the lines of "there's no one suspicious for me, I'll abstain from voting" and that led to scum outnumbering vanillas. Could just be playing style shenanigans rather than a role-dependent behaviour, but honestly it lines up with how the ice planet operates almost too well.nominomu wrote:
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)Kobold84 wrote:
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.GamlA wrote:
How do you propose we do this?Kobold84 wrote:
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".
VOTE: nominomu
VOTE: Aireunaeus
Just like nominomu pointed out, suspicious moves don't come out of nowhere, you have to use your words and your vote if you want to force people into unfavorable positions. Yes, certainly we don't want to vote out vanillas, but your vote alone doesn't get the target executed on the spot. See how much we got just from this short exchange? And no one died (yet). It's okay to be wrong, just find whoever's looking the most dubious to you.Aireunaeus wrote:
Well the reason why i didn’t want to vote anyone out (even the people whom are inactive), is because there is a lack of evidence that they are a scum. I can’t just vote a random guy and they’ll end up as a vanilla type. If someone makes a suspicious move then i actually would vote them of course. I do confirm that just voting out noone is kinda a dumb move but I’ll be more active into finding suspicious and vote anyone. It’s my 3rd time playing an online mafia game.Kobold84 wrote:
What you are saying is reasonable, especially the second part. I remember there was a similar pattern in Aireunaeus actions in a previous mafia game where he was a scum. All days were him saying something along the lines of "there's no one suspicious for me, I'll abstain from voting" and that led to scum outnumbering vanillas. Could just be playing style shenanigans rather than a role-dependent behaviour, but honestly it lines up with how the ice planet operates almost too well.nominomu wrote:
ok ok i'll actually do something... i've noticed that the ice planets seem to be knocking out accusatory players that encourage the game to move on (samx and yyottacat), that matches what youre saying (but it does put some suspicion on me though). im a bit suspicious of aireunaeus, he seems to disencourage voting and also he protects the less active players (again, me lmao)Kobold84 wrote:
For that we'd have to notice connections between players or try to single out anyone suspicious. For the former, I didn't really notice anything odd, I think the winning strategy for them is to try to be as dead/neutral as possible during the day, because if we don't vote, there's no chance we get them and they will continue to kill us each night.GamlA wrote:
How do you propose we do this?Kobold84 wrote:
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
As for the latter, I'm voting nominomu. Sorry not sorry, but we have to move forward somehow and you don't seem to be quite "here".
VOTE: nominomu
VOTE: Aireunaeus
Wait, does this mean you will be targeted as well because you are pretty active and experienced?Kobold84 wrote:
Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
But fire planets are weird, ignoring that no-kill moment first night, I wouldn't really expect them to come for Shaun last night, IAMVERYSMART actions on the first day were suspicious as well. I assume they had an internal fight at night #1, then the one left alive proceeded to kill Shaun, who was extremely inactive at the time, for whatever reason.
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
hey, I warn you again, no night-public-conversation, if you want to say something, please speak it out earlierRezq wrote:
Wait, does this mean you will be targeted as well because you are pretty active and experienced?Kobold84 wrote:
Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
But fire planets are weird, ignoring that no-kill moment first night, I wouldn't really expect them to come for Shaun last night, IAMVERYSMART actions on the first day were suspicious as well. I assume they had an internal fight at night #1, then the one left alive proceeded to kill Shaun, who was extremely inactive at the time, for whatever reason.
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
hmmm this sentence is a bit susRezq wrote:
I thought ice was going to kill kobold...
Aireunaeus wrote:
hmmm this sentence is a bit susRezq wrote:
I thought ice was going to kill kobold...
Rezq wrote:
Wait, does this mean you will be targeted as well because you are pretty active and experienced?Kobold84 wrote:
Interesting, interesting. So far, ice planet kills are very methodical, I can understand what they're doing and why.
But fire planets are weird, ignoring that no-kill moment first night, I wouldn't really expect them to come for Shaun last night, IAMVERYSMART actions on the first day were suspicious as well. I assume they had an internal fight at night #1, then the one left alive proceeded to kill Shaun, who was extremely inactive at the time, for whatever reason.
Now, as for the strategy for the current day I would propose to single out an ice planet, that way it's possible for double taps to reveal themselves later without much issue, which would massively help us. If you don't understand why, then it's simple: if double-taps reveal themselves with two living ices we won't be able to tell if they are real or if they're ice planets pretending to be them.
Ooh, I seeKobold84 wrote:
Yes, it's true that I seem like a legitimate target, but this doesn't mean it is what will happen. Two possible scenarios that could be in play:
a) it's a ploy to make me seem as a scum, it also redirects discussions from "who is suspicious" to "why is kobold not targetted", seems simple but works well, I assume even if it's true there's some hidden meaning to it as well;
b) ice planet decided to not target me because they don't render me as much of a threat compared to a possible fire planet member, for example, who they are trying to get rid.
The second scenario also implies my deduction wasn't entirely correct when I was suspecting Aireunaeus and nominomu to an extent, but doesn't clear them 100%.
Why did fire planet killed him though? They could have use him as a decoyKobold84 wrote:
We now know Julian was a scum, so it'd be good to scrutinize their actions one more time.
Day 1: complete inaction (confirmed by being allegedly replaced by the organizator), this means whoever is an ice planet was acting alone on the first day and night. Not much information, but worth remembering. To me, that means that one ice planet scum was probably not as risky and spent the day rather passively, knowing full well their team is in a bad spot.
Day 2: Joon accused Julian to be a fire planet due to his low activity.
ClevelandsMyBro defended Julian and remarked how inactivity is more likely to indicate he's a townie. GamlA did not defend Julian, but asked about this accusation.
After a while ClevelandsMyBro decided to put suspicion on Julian as well (without voting however).
Julian defended himself and said he doesn't have a lot of free time currently, while proposing other options to who could be a scum. He also slightly accused GamIA of being a fire planet based on a post of IAVS. The latter to me speaks a lot, because his low activity does seem genuine and this accusation could spiral out of control very fast and put GamIA at a risk of being voted out. Not worth it, if he was his ice partner.
Night 2: Julian died.
Not sure, did they even know he was an ice planet? Even then, he didn't seem very suspicious to be used as that. My assumption is that the fire planet mostly targets relatively silent players, I guess in order to remove people who are hiding? Or they know something I don't.Rezq wrote:
Why did fire planet killed him though? They could have use him as a decoy
thats me, im the other double-tap (or at least i claim to be)Kobold84 wrote:
Also I know this is risky, but maybe it's a good time for a double-tap to reveal themselves. If there's only a single person coming out, this means we have one less suspect off the list as they're 100% a townie. If there'd more than one however, then one of them is 100% a scum, which is also good for us and at the very least we can decide between the two (or even three? but unlikely) instead of trying to find the suspicious person among all of us.
Since we're 5 vs 2 right now, we absolutely have to get a planet today, because otherwise the very next day our number could shrink down to 3 vs 2, which is... well, you can imagine how bad that would be.
or, they could have targeted the other ice planet, since its a factional bulletproof, if im understanding correctly? if they did target julian 1st night i wouldnt really see a reason to wait until the 3rd night to target him again, other than maybe trying to trick us into thinking they targeted the other ice planet first nightRezq wrote:
Ahhh, so in the first night they targeted Julian but his bulletproof activated. So they know that Julian is one of the Ice Planet and targeted him again
noRezq wrote:
Wait, can the golden planet kill?
Ohh, that's a good observation, but as nominomu said this begs a question: why was Julian targeted on day 1 and then only on day 3?GamlA wrote:
Now we understand, because of Julian_Kaiser's murder, that the fire planets' absence of a kill on night 1 was due to the depletion of the ice planets' bulletproof.
And because of the ice planets never missing their target, we can say that Team Fire still has their bulletproof.
Idk about s***Kobold84 wrote:
Voting because of the bandwagon last day occurring for no reason. Maybe that would also help in reviving him.
VOTE: Joon Yorigami
Cleveland and Joon still haven't properly responded, we may need to wait for them to be sure nominomu is the Double-Tap.Kobold84 wrote:
No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
I just hate not having anyone lynched for 3 days straight it just seems counter-productiveKobold84 wrote:
Voting because of the bandwagon last day occurring for no reason. Maybe that would also help in reviving him.
VOTE: Joon Yorigami
ofc not because hes dead.Kobold84 wrote:
No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
dont think theres no reasoning behind the wagon imo. voting out someone would be beneficial at this later stages of the game. would rather take the gamble than allow scums to take control of the night but thats from my experience.Kobold84 wrote:
Voting because of the bandwagon last day occurring for no reason. Maybe that would also help in reviving him.
VOTE: Joon Yorigami
As I explained, one of the planets could lie and say he is a double-tap. Doesn't seem like it will be the case.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
ofc not because hes dead.Kobold84 wrote:
No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
Well, now he did provide the reason for that, but last day it wasn't as obvious. Guess that's that.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
dont think theres no reasoning behind the wagon imo. voting out someone would be beneficial at this later stages of the game. would rather take the gamble than allow scums to take control of the night but thats from my experience.Kobold84 wrote:
Voting because of the bandwagon last day occurring for no reason. Maybe that would also help in reviving him.
VOTE: Joon Yorigami
this could be a town or scum slip but i dont know which oneClevelandsMyBro wrote:
ofc not because hes dead.Kobold84 wrote:
No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
as it stands nominomu is double tap unless someone else wants to roleclaim??Kobold84 wrote:
As I explained, one of the planets could lie and say he is a double-tap. Doesn't seem like it will be the case.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
ofc not because hes dead.Kobold84 wrote:
No one else to claim the role of a double-tap?
I didn't even know what to say or respond due to me sometimes having difficulty understanding the context of the words or what they mean. But i try very hard to respond on thatKobold84 wrote:
It's been 2 days since my request and nominomu claimed to be one, so yeah, guess that settles it. The only one who did not post anything yet is Aireunaeus.
this, along with the pfp :3cAireunaeus wrote:
I didn't even know what to say or respond due to me sometimes having difficulty understanding the context of the words or what they mean. But i try very hard to respond on thatKobold84 wrote:
It's been 2 days since my request and nominomu claimed to be one, so yeah, guess that settles it. The only one who did not post anything yet is Aireunaeus.
On the other hand, I do kinda suspect gamla as a scum, because smart guy telling that he’s "100% not a scum". That kinda reminds me like the word "definitely" Or "totally". these words remind me that they'll use them in an ironic way. so it could be a possibility that gamla is a scum by any chance. Soo
VOTE: GamlA
I'm also very surprised that you speak in the public at night as the third rules-breakerAireunaeus wrote:
I'm really surprised that noone responded after 2 days