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My spontaneous review of Oshi no Ko's 1st episode right after watching it

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Stomiks
I was supposed to just give my thoughts after watching it but I had so much to say it turned into a review. Here's the whole copy paste of it from when I made it on a discord server.

Context:
So I read the manga before the anime came out so my review didn't dive too much into Characters and Plot, or didn't dive too much into anything since I made it right after watching the 1st episode. Keep in mind that I was still in the middle of feeling great after watching it so my review wouldn't be constructive, of quality, unbiased or anything like that.

One complaint that I forgot to mention during the review is how much information you were fed for the worldbuilding. I understand that they had to fit 10 chapters into a feature length but I think I'd prefer it if they made it more simpler instead of following what the manga said as is.

Also spoilers are marked with in black so there's no need to be cautious.

Review:
What in the actual fuck

That was one of, if not the best feature length I've ever seen out of any anime. Makoto Shinkai and Old Studio Ghibli works could suck ass, cause Oshi no Ko is in town.

I don't actually know where to start. It's perfect. Let's do it in a MAL style review.

Animation:
I'm sure there're more beautiful and more impressive works from other IP out there, like Demon Slayer for example.

But even so, I love what they did with the animation. It's so vibrant and lively, you can see the passion these animators put in their work, and I appreciate how it changes styles too and not conforming with the rigid animation of most animes. It really makes for better visualization and storytelling, like how it shows aqua's newfound feelings of revenge after his father cause Ai's death. The swirling, dark, motion showing aqua's feelings of revenge really resonated well with me. Jesus, do you know how many times I replayed a ton of scenes? They all just look so beautiful and consistent with their work.

Sound:
The VA's, the music, the ending song, oh my god it sounded so good. I love how they even put effort in the most subtlest of sounds. Most viewers might not even notice them but they really elevate and compliment the events happening on screen, especially how they portrayed AI's death. In the manga, it was rough and harsh. The anime exactly followed the manga but with how they put it in a soft lighter tone, paired with the slow, and mellowed music, just makes it a very sad scene. We weren't supposed to focus on the killer and be filled with hate, more so on AI's death sequence as she talks with her children one final time, making us mourn AI as the twins desperately try to come to terms with her death.
The voice acting was amazing too. Rie Takanashi was the perfect voice for AI. She was able to voice something truly convincing. When she shouts in happiness, grunts in pain, and that ending scene too holy shit that was phenomenal voice acting. And the other VAs did not dissapoint too. They really supported the cast and were able to bring out such an impressive performance.

That ending song is really great too. I never knew yoasobi could sing like that. I can't wait to continue hearing it as the OP for the anime.

Characters & Plot:
Nothing much I could say since I already read the manga. The anime was completely faithful to it, only removing small portions of it to match the current tone of the scene. And the seamless transition when it was time to switch chapters was seamless. I hardly even noticed it at all. Characters are great too.

Overall:
The episode overall made me relive reading the beginning chapters of the manga, but even better as it's an anime after all. If this episode was a standalone movie then it's an absolute 10/10 for me. Well, the series could be a 10 too if it keeps the episode's pace up. I hope the series is of the same quality, or even higher than episode 1.
Ymir
it's so shit
Topic Starter
Stomiks
Remi barely a minute hasn't even passed yet lmao
Ymir
im real
anaxii
The "What in the actual f*ck" was deep XDDD
Reyalp51
Not gonna lie the end was emocional
Topic Starter
Stomiks

Reyalp51 wrote:

Not gonna lie the end was emocional
Yeah man these are one of the animes that I wish I completely forgot the story about because I read the manga.

Also after watching a couple of episodes after the 1st I can definitely say that this is not the masterpiece I've been searching for. Now it really enforces my point that the 1st episodes should've been a standalone movie so I could 10 it on MAL.
Aireunaeus

Reyalp51 wrote:

Not gonna lie the end was emocional
i was so upset at the stalker, he literally brought the city athmosphere to real life
Reyalp51

Aireunaeus wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

Not gonna lie the end was emocional
i was so upset at the stalker, he literally brought the city athmosphere to real life
i may have laught at his pain, he does not deserve compasion lmao
anaxii

Aireunaeus wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

Not gonna lie the end was emocional
i was so upset at the stalker, he literally brought the city athmosphere to real life
Stalkers are bad people
Topic Starter
Stomiks

Aireunaeus wrote:

Reyalp51 wrote:

Not gonna lie the end was emocional
i was so upset at the stalker, he literally brought the city athmosphere to real life
Watch those spoilers

Anyway, it's actually a pretty normal occurance within idol culture. You're always bound to get stalkers if you constantly give affirmations of love to your audience, even if they are lies.
TheAngryNerd101
Makoto Shinkai and Studio Ghibli films can suck ass, I'll agree with that.

I disagree with this being the "best anime feature length", holy fuck recency bias. So many people watch the first episode and then they think it is the uncontested, indisputable greatest work of fiction of all time. It really isn't anywhere near as good as people are saying it is. It's like the bocchi situation taken to an even further extreme by people just as ignorant (ex. bocchi fans saying that it's the first anime ever to be this visually creative (DAMN FUCKING WRONG)).
Topic Starter
Stomiks

TheAngryNerd101 wrote:

I disagree with this being the "best anime feature length", holy fuck recency bias. So many people watch the first episode and then they think it is the uncontested, indisputable greatest work of fiction of all time. It really isn't anywhere near as good as people are saying it is. It's like the bocchi situation taken to an even further extreme by people just as ignorant (ex. bocchi fans saying that it's the first anime ever to be this visually creative (DAMN FUCKING WRONG)).
Yeah I was really biased when I made that review, especially since I was fangirling on how well they adaptated this or that scene. But tbh, I don't really watch that much anime feature lengths at all, I could probably count the total amount of anime feature lengths on my fingers. It just takes me a ton of courage to just watch one since an hour 30 minutes or more is a pretty huge time investment for me.
Patatitta
have not watched oshi no ko, may do so in the future, have not read the spoilers, but reading this

TheAngryNerd101 wrote:

Makoto Shinkai and Studio Ghibli films can suck ass, I'll agree with that.

this is just wrong
anaxii

Patatitta wrote:

have not watched oshi no ko, may do so in the future, have not read the spoilers, but reading this

TheAngryNerd101 wrote:

Makoto Shinkai and Studio Ghibli films can suck ass, I'll agree with that.

this is just wrong
Well, he's a little too emotional but at least he got the spirit
Topic Starter
Stomiks

Patatitta wrote:

have not watched oshi no ko, may do so in the future, have not read the spoilers, but reading this

TheAngryNerd101 wrote:

Makoto Shinkai and Studio Ghibli films can suck ass, I'll agree with that.

this is just wrong
Watch the episode first before you make a judgement ★~(◠‿◕✿)
anaxii

Stomiks wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

have not watched oshi no ko, may do so in the future, have not read the spoilers, but reading this

TheAngryNerd101 wrote:

Makoto Shinkai and Studio Ghibli films can suck ass, I'll agree with that.

this is just wrong
Watch the episode first before you make a judgement ★~(◠‿◕✿)
LMAO the exact opposite of what I usually do
Topic Starter
Stomiks

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

have not watched oshi no ko, may do so in the future, have not read the spoilers, but reading this

TheAngryNerd101 wrote:

Makoto Shinkai and Studio Ghibli films can suck ass, I'll agree with that.

this is just wrong
Watch the episode first before you make a judgement ★~(◠‿◕✿)

LMAO the exact opposite of what I usually do
Reminds me of what my mother tells me when I'm picky with food:

But how are you supposed to know if you enjoy it if you don't even give it a try?
Patatitta

Stomiks wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

have not watched oshi no ko, may do so in the future, have not read the spoilers, but reading this

TheAngryNerd101 wrote:

Makoto Shinkai and Studio Ghibli films can suck ass, I'll agree with that.

this is just wrong
Watch the episode first before you make a judgement ★~(◠‿◕✿)
watching a movie doesn't make another one suck tho?
Topic Starter
Stomiks

Patatitta wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

have not watched oshi no ko, may do so in the future, have not read the spoilers, but reading this

TheAngryNerd101 wrote:

Makoto Shinkai and Studio Ghibli films can suck ass, I'll agree with that.

this is just wrong
Watch the episode first before you make a judgement ★~(◠‿◕✿)
watching a movie doesn't make another one suck tho?
Oh I thought you meant another thing. What I mean by that statement is for hyperbole reasons and hyping up the episode. Dunno about angrynerd's meaning though...
TheAngryNerd101

Stomiks wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

have not watched oshi no ko, may do so in the future, have not read the spoilers, but reading this

TheAngryNerd101 wrote:

Makoto Shinkai and Studio Ghibli films can suck ass, I'll agree with that.

this is just wrong
Watch the episode first before you make a judgement ★~(◠‿◕✿)
watching a movie doesn't make another one suck tho?
Oh I thought you meant another thing. What I mean by that statement is for hyperbole reasons and hyping up the episode. Dunno about angrynerd's meaning though...
I don't like Oshi no Ko nor Makoto Shinkai films and Ghibli films.

Like many popular shows of the last 3 or so years, Oshi no Ko is pretty good but god DAMN is it astronomically blown out of proportion. It's the Spy x Family, Chainsaw Man and Bocchi hype all over again. It becomes very apparent where it gets its ludicrous praise from: fanboyism and hype trains. No different from your average shounen anime fanboyism. Is it made by a well recognized studio (that for some FUCKING reason the normie fans are saying it's a "no name" studio when it's the studio responsible for some of the biggest memes within the anime community and popular moe, cute and wholesome shows)? Check. Is the author of the manga famous and behind another already massively popular and acclaimed work? Check. Does it have great animation? Check. Is the concept unique enough for inexperienced normies to think it's the single most unique concept in fiction? Check. Are there recognizable voice actors? Check (i love takahashi rie btw). Is there already a huge fanbase for the manga? Check. This anime was pretty much set to succeed.

Makoto Shinkai films all try to have strange unique concepts (that are pretty much the same within his filmography) that are for some reason NEVER explained (and they don't get the "up to viewer's interpretation" pass like avant garde / abstract films get) that follow the same formula and the same story structure as the last. Amazing music and visuals, sure, but they aren't enough to make up for the weak writing and forgettable characters that plague his films -- especially in his newest one: Suzume. Would be great if his films weren't so damn repetitive -- same concept, different setting.

Ghibli films have always been just overrated. Maybe it's out of viewer's connection / nostalgia for them which is why they're so highly acclaimed but I personally don't think they're anything all that amazing... that being said I by no means think they're bad and many are actually really good. They tend to have these creative concepts and damn good animation but again I don't think they're masterpieces.

Me saying "they can go suck ass" is merely an exaggeration of my views about finding them overrated.
Topic Starter
Stomiks
yeah tbh I feel like shinkai's films do feel a bit repetitive, especially with the romance oriented films he's made. Ghibli films on the other hand I feel like they're just realy fun films to watch. I usually don't critique them and appreciate the work that the people put into it.

TheAngryNerd101 wrote:

Like many popular shows of the last 3 or so years, Oshi no Ko is pretty good but god DAMN is it astronomically blown out of proportion. It's the Spy x Family, Chainsaw Man and Bocchi hype all over again. It becomes very apparent where it gets its ludicrous praise from: fanboyism and hype trains. No different from your average shounen anime fanboyism. Is it made by a well recognized studio (that for some FUCKING reason the normie fans are saying it's a "no name" studio when it's the studio responsible for some of the biggest memes within the anime community and popular moe, cute and wholesome shows)? Check. Is the author of the manga famous and behind another already massively popular and acclaimed work? Check. Does it have great animation? Check. Is the concept unique enough for inexperienced normies to think it's the single most unique concept in fiction? Check. Are there recognizable voice actors? Check (i love takahashi rie btw). Is there already a huge fanbase for the manga? Check. This anime was pretty much set to succeed.
oh my god you perfectly expressed what I've been feeling lately for the past year or so. I was wondering why there's always a specific anime standing out each season and this is actually a pretty great explanation on why so.
Patatitta

TheAngryNerd101 wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Patatitta wrote:

have not watched oshi no ko, may do so in the future, have not read the spoilers, but reading this

TheAngryNerd101 wrote:

Makoto Shinkai and Studio Ghibli films can suck ass, I'll agree with that.

this is just wrong
Watch the episode first before you make a judgement ★~(◠‿◕✿)
watching a movie doesn't make another one suck tho?
Oh I thought you meant another thing. What I mean by that statement is for hyperbole reasons and hyping up the episode. Dunno about angrynerd's meaning though...
I don't like Oshi no Ko nor Makoto Shinkai films and Ghibli films.

Like many popular shows of the last 3 or so years, Oshi no Ko is pretty good but god DAMN is it astronomically blown out of proportion. It's the Spy x Family, Chainsaw Man and Bocchi hype all over again. It becomes very apparent where it gets its ludicrous praise from: fanboyism and hype trains. No different from your average shounen anime fanboyism. Is it made by a well recognized studio (that for some FUCKING reason the normie fans are saying it's a "no name" studio when it's the studio responsible for some of the biggest memes within the anime community and popular moe, cute and wholesome shows)? Check. Is the author of the manga famous and behind another already massively popular and acclaimed work? Check. Does it have great animation? Check. Is the concept unique enough for inexperienced normies to think it's the single most unique concept in fiction? Check. Are there recognizable voice actors? Check (i love takahashi rie btw). Is there already a huge fanbase for the manga? Check. This anime was pretty much set to succeed.

Makoto Shinkai films all try to have strange unique concepts (that are pretty much the same within his filmography) that are for some reason NEVER explained (and they don't get the "up to viewer's interpretation" pass like avant garde / abstract films get) that follow the same formula and the same story structure as the last. Amazing music and visuals, sure, but they aren't enough to make up for the weak writing and forgettable characters that plague his films -- especially in his newest one: Suzume. Would be great if his films weren't so damn repetitive -- same concept, different setting.

Ghibli films have always been just overrated. Maybe it's out of viewer's connection / nostalgia for them which is why they're so highly acclaimed but I personally don't think they're anything all that amazing... that being said I by no means think they're bad and many are actually really good. They tend to have these creative concepts and damn good animation but again I don't think they're masterpieces.

Me saying "they can go suck ass" is merely an exaggeration of my views about finding them overrated.
no opinion on first half, havent watched bocchi, chainsaw man or spy x family

about makoto shinkai and ghilbi

I think this is a difference on how we watch anime and enjoy stories, the point of makoto shinkai movies are not the events themselves, it's not about how the big giant worm in suzume came to exist, that's not of importance to the protagonist, what is important is the experiences the protagonist goes by, how would they react under the weirdest of cirscustances while in love, it's about the atmosphere, the emotions you feel

while makoto shinkai movies do follow the same theme of romance, I think the way it has been done in suzume is actually really different than in something like your name, since the actual romance aspect is not really touched on, only really suggested until the very end of the film, while your name is a lot more romance since minute one

ghilbi is kinda similar, just that they aren't romance, a movie like totoro wants to transmit peace, and it does that in a very precious way, all the characters are cute, the enviroments are beautiful, and the overall energy of the acutal anime is really hard to match

The best moment of suzume is not the plot reveals, but the character moments, the scenes where a character finally breaks, and shows all of their personality, like in that car travel scene near the end of the movie

these movies aren't like "Monster" or whatever other highly rated anime, because they dont really focus on the same things at all, they leave stuff to viewer interpretation, because that knowledge doesn't matter for what the anime is trying to archieve

These movies might seem repetitive, but in reality, they just dont need to be that different from each other, even if the end result is similar, the actual travel, world, and characters changes, I really disagree with the point you made that it's forgettable, I still remember lots of scenes from these movies, I can picture a large chunk of weathering with you in my head, even if I watched that 2 years ago now, that's not something every anime manages to do

I personally think that this is a problem while reviewing anime in general, some pieces of media just require of a totally different set of ideals, some movie might put all their importance into the plot, (Monster, Banana fish, etc), while others, just want you to sit down, and experience whatever emotions they want you to feel (Spirited away, suzume),

I dont mean to say that your opinion is any less valid, if you did not enjoy these movies, that's fair, but I think you're also missing the point of why people actually enjoy these movies, and I wish this comment has helped understand that a little bit better

edit: also sorry for not having posted earlier, I dont check this subforum too often
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