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Voidedosu
3,115 posts
Joined June 2016
Voidedosu
It's not impossible, you just have horrible rhythm sense.

If you don't have any idea how fast the map is going, the "speed" of the objects coming in (i.e. a slow triplet vs. a fast triplet), and the general rhythm of the song, you're going to have horrible accuracy in this game anyways but it'll be extra-horrendous when you're playing with the OD almost at its most restrictive and punishing.

On the one hand, it might be better to just play a lot of OD10 songs (naturally via HR) or using something like mcosu or Osu!Trainer to change it), but on the other I wonder if you'd be better off learning to play OD8 or 9 first before jumping to OD10.
[darkness]
367 posts
Joined November 2020
[darkness]
bros playin osu with no sound
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

[darkness] wrote:

bros playin osu with no sound
💀
Stomiks
9,043 posts
Joined March 2021
Stomiks
Man you really need to improve your sense of rhythm. Aren't there practice maps for that?
Voidedosu
3,115 posts
Joined June 2016
Voidedosu

Stomiks wrote:

Man you really need to improve your sense of rhythm. Aren't there practice maps for that?
He doesn't even need practice maps. He just need to focus less on "hitting the notes" and more on "following the rhythm"

"Hitting the notes" is for all those idiots who play on AR/OD10 and play CS:GO-style reactionary-style; no sense of rhythm, just hitting notes as they appear. "Following the rhythm" is for those who remember this is a rhythm game and play accordingly.
Stomiks
9,043 posts
Joined March 2021
Stomiks

Voidedosu wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

Man you really need to improve your sense of rhythm. Aren't there practice maps for that?
He doesn't even need practice maps. He just need to focus less on "hitting the notes" and more on "following the rhythm"

"Hitting the notes" is for all those idiots who play on AR/OD10 and play CS:GO-style reactionary-style; no sense of rhythm, just hitting notes as they appear. "Following the rhythm" is for those who remember this is a rhythm game and play accordingly.
I'd cut him some slack since he looks like a kid from his posts. Maybe their brain isn't developed enough idk. If he's not capable of doing OD10 then it's better if he just backs down on it and come back again when he gets good enough.
Voidedosu
3,115 posts
Joined June 2016
Voidedosu
That would be better, yes. And dropping HDDT for NM and playing more maps longer than 2 minutes.

(I swear, profiles with nothing but sub-1:30 maps with (HD)DT or a bunch of B/C/D-rank [Hard]/[Insane] maps are starting to make me cringe.)
KupcaH
2,830 posts
Joined January 2016
KupcaH
It takes a long time to learn how to properly acc OD 10, and it does look impossible during earlier stages of the game. Just keep playing and you'll get better.
AccountWontWork
2,023 posts
Joined March 2021
AccountWontWork
hmm also thought it was pretty hard but then I started spamming this map with HR and now im actually somewhat being able to get decent acc within just a week of spamming.

Indomi-chan
1,371 posts
Joined July 2022
Indomi-chan

KupcaH wrote:

It takes a long time to learn how to properly acc OD 10, and it does look impossible during earlier stages of the game. Just keep playing and you'll get better.
I also struggle with OD9.5+, that's why what you see in my profile is a shit HDHR score that is low accuracy FC. Especially me struggling to get 98-99% acc on OD8-OD9.5.

Also, I was about to post a long text about how my playcount is basically 70-85% lower than top players.

[Off Topic] How did mrekk get an SS on Team Magma, although it has OD11.11? Well, mrekk has a good rhythm sense, so he can set cracked scores until now.
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kaedori
319 posts
Joined September 2018
kaedori
good acc doesnt necessarily mean good rhythm sense, just play more
[darkness]
367 posts
Joined November 2020
[darkness]

THETM wrote:

[Off Topic] How did mrekk get an SS on Team Magma, although it has OD11.11? Well, mrekk has a good rhythm sense, so he can set cracked scores until now.
that map is literally just 8th notes the entire time, theres not much rhythm sense there lol. just pure acc and paying attention to the game's feedback (hit error bar)
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

haxyie bf wrote:

good acc doesnt necessarily mean good rhythm sense, just play more
a "just play more" is already enough
Stomiks
9,043 posts
Joined March 2021
Stomiks

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

haxyie bf wrote:

good acc doesnt necessarily mean good rhythm sense, just play more
a "just play more" is already enough
It's good to add additional information for better advice
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

Stomiks wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

haxyie bf wrote:

good acc doesnt necessarily mean good rhythm sense, just play more
a "just play more" is already enough
It's good to add additional information for better advice
I can understand that but most advanced people already understand that you have to play the game to get better
Stomiks
9,043 posts
Joined March 2021
Stomiks

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Stomiks wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

haxyie bf wrote:

good acc doesnt necessarily mean good rhythm sense, just play more
a "just play more" is already enough
It's good to add additional information for better advice
I can understand that but most advanced people already understand that you have to play the game to get better
This 6-digit doesn't seem like an advanced player to me
Aya_f
82 posts
Joined February 2022
Topic Starter
Aya_f
that was actually a first try
heres a better acc
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MrMcMikey22
1,745 posts
Joined January 2021
MrMcMikey22
now THAT'S improvement!!! *w*

guys we finally managed to help an osu! player \^o^/
Aya_f
82 posts
Joined February 2022
Topic Starter
Aya_f

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

now THAT'S improvement!!! *w*

guys we finally managed to help an osu! player \^o^/
osu forum is a best community ive ever seen
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

Aya_f wrote:

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

now THAT'S improvement!!! *w*

guys we finally managed to help an osu! player \^o^/
osu forum is a best community ive ever seen
WE HAVE TRAINED A FUTURE HARDROCK PLAYER
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AccountWontWork
2,023 posts
Joined March 2021
AccountWontWork
OD10 certainly isnt impossible

just continue grinding and you'll get better and better at it

nominomu
683 posts
Joined June 2022
nominomu
wdym ar10 is the impossible one, not od10
WalkingAbacus
255 posts
Joined January 2021
WalkingAbacus
You learn how to acc better as you play more. It is just the matter of getting used to the rhythm and timing window.

If OD10 is impossible, then what about OD11.1?
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

flareling22 wrote:

wdym ar10 is the impossible one, not od10
AR10 is easy if you're a HR/DT main but not if you play with NM

WalkingAbacus wrote:

If OD10 is impossible, then what about OD11.1?
DTHR 💀💀💀
Aya_f
82 posts
Joined February 2022
Topic Starter
Aya_f

flareling22 wrote:

wdym ar10 is the impossible one, not od10
try AR8 map with DT
pretty easy to read AR10
WalkingAbacus
255 posts
Joined January 2021
WalkingAbacus

Aya_f wrote:

flareling22 wrote:

wdym ar10 is the impossible one, not od10
try AR8 map with DT
pretty easy to read AR10
AR 8 + DT = AR 9.67 smh
AR 8.5 + DT = AR 10
nominomu
683 posts
Joined June 2022
nominomu
honestly ar10 is a lot harder than ar9.67 imo
cs might be a factor as well, i find at small cs and high ar the objects seem to come at you faster than at larger cs, even if the ar is the same
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

flareling22 wrote:

honestly ar10 is a lot harder than ar9.67 imo
cs might be a factor as well, i find at small cs and high ar the objects seem to come at you faster than at larger cs, even if the ar is the same
Small cs test your capacity to aim in a precise way (= cursor control)

If you were never used to play maps with AR10, then of course you'll find it harder than AR9.67
AccountWontWork
2,023 posts
Joined March 2021
AccountWontWork
learning AR10 is pretty much the same as learning OD10, just play more and more and you'll eventually learn it.
kujubuo
1,792 posts
Joined March 2021
kujubuo

AccountWontWork wrote:

OD10 certainly isnt impossible

just continue grinding and you'll get better and better at it

based grinding

AccountWontWork wrote:

learning AR10 is pretty much the same as learning OD10, just play more and more and you'll eventually learn it.
i think learning ar 10 is a bit easier to be honest
Indomi-chan
1,371 posts
Joined July 2022
Indomi-chan
AR7 + HR = AR9.8 (I struggled so used WhiteCat DT skin, but now I'm reading fine)
AR6 + DTHR = AR9.93
finally go to AR10 (I struggled so used WhiteCat DT skin)

OD is very dependent on accuracy, this is why pp is based on OD, because of how hard it is to acc.
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MrMcMikey22
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Joined January 2021
MrMcMikey22
wait what ar8 on dt is 9.67!?!?!?

I thought it was JUST AR9... ._.

Although I hate ar 9.8 a lot...It's super hard to read ar 9.8 on a laptop or is it..?
AccountWontWork
2,023 posts
Joined March 2021
AccountWontWork

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

Although I hate ar 9.8 a lot...It's super hard to read ar 9.8 on a laptop or is it..?
???

I use a laptop and I can read up to AR10.3 just fine
Aya_f
82 posts
Joined February 2022
Topic Starter
Aya_f

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

wait what ar8 on dt is 9.67!?!?!?

I thought it was JUST AR9... ._.

Although I hate ar 9.8 a lot...It's super hard to read ar 9.8 on a laptop or is it..?
im on laptop too
Ymir
1,757 posts
Joined June 2020
Ymir

Aya_f wrote:

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

wait what ar8 on dt is 9.67!?!?!?

I thought it was JUST AR9... ._.

Although I hate ar 9.8 a lot...It's super hard to read ar 9.8 on a laptop or is it..?
im on laptop too
laptop gaming gang
Stomiks
9,043 posts
Joined March 2021
Stomiks

-Remi wrote:

Aya_f wrote:

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

wait what ar8 on dt is 9.67!?!?!?

I thought it was JUST AR9... ._.

Although I hate ar 9.8 a lot...It's super hard to read ar 9.8 on a laptop or is it..?
im on laptop too
laptop gaming gang
laptop but broke gang
Aya_f
82 posts
Joined February 2022
Topic Starter
Aya_f
my 2 year old laptop can still run osu at around 160 to 230fps

but i dont have keypads
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Ymir
1,757 posts
Joined June 2020
Ymir
Keypads are a waste of money, just get a whole keyboard instead.
anaxii
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Joined December 2022
anaxii

-Remi wrote:

Keypads are a waste of money, just get a whole keyboard instead.
In some circumstances buying a keypad can be better than buying a keyboard, if you are broke and have a shitty keyboard for example xd
Stomiks
9,043 posts
Joined March 2021
Stomiks

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

-Remi wrote:

Keypads are a waste of money, just get a whole keyboard instead.
In some circumstances buying a keypad can be better than buying a keyboard, if you are broke and have a shitty keyboard for example xd
I mean tbh it's just better to save for a keyboard rather than using a good portion of that money to buy 2 keys on top of plastic.
AccountWontWork
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Joined March 2021
AccountWontWork
well in certain cases the keypad will be a better choice, like for example the wooting, the keyboard is $200 while the keypad is only about $50
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

AccountWontWork wrote:

well in certain cases the keypad will be a better choice, like for example the wooting, the keyboard is $200 while the keypad is only about $50
Who's going to use the wooting keyboard to play outside of osu anyway
AccountWontWork
2,023 posts
Joined March 2021
AccountWontWork

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

AccountWontWork wrote:

well in certain cases the keypad will be a better choice, like for example the wooting, the keyboard is $200 while the keypad is only about $50
Who's going to use the wooting keyboard to play outside of osu anyway
trackmania players and probably fps players
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

AccountWontWork wrote:

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

AccountWontWork wrote:

well in certain cases the keypad will be a better choice, like for example the wooting, the keyboard is $200 while the keypad is only about $50
Who's going to use the wooting keyboard to play outside of osu anyway
trackmania players and probably fps players
Hmmm yeah it's a fair point
iiMrAbood_
3 posts
Joined September 2018
iiMrAbood_

Aya_f wrote:

that was actually a first try
heres a better acc
so , as a player who started the game with Huge accuracy problems I (I used to have 90ish profile accuracy so perhaps mine was even a bigger issue) .. Let me tell you a what I have from experience
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1- it's normal for people with no natural rhythm sense to get into the game and struggle with accuracy .. some people are gifted with it some are not and if you get roasted for not having rhythm sense from a rhythm game expert .. it's ok don't sweat about it because those people mostly discourage rather than give actual useful advice
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2- know the bpms you play better and understand why ... do some bpms feel too slow too fast ? and try to push your best bpm accuracy (like if you prefer 180 bpm try to push your acc and expand your bpm comfort range)
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3- you don't really have to play od10 .. you can if you want to but sticking to od 9 first is not bad, don't feel pressured to play hardrock unless you want to.
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4- play more .. practice more .. that's how every problem at this game is solved .. your problem doesn't even seem bad at all you are new to the game and od 10 is still difficult for me to acc even after having +33 days of playtime
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vi_xlt
334 posts
Joined January 2023
vi_xlt

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

Aya_f wrote:

MrMcMikey22 wrote:

now THAT'S improvement!!! *w*

guys we finally managed to help an osu! player \^o^/
osu forum is a best community ive ever seen
WE HAVE TRAINED A FUTURE HARDROCK PLAYER
congrats on improvement but most of you just collectively shit on aya or hddt/hdhr before aya got recognized for a score. at least they tried.

approaching OSU with "AR10 is impossible" or "OD10 is impossible" is a terrible mindset that you'll learn to break through as you play more. also, try doing what someone else said and get a good grip on AR8/9/9.5 before jumping to AR10, same with CS, OD, or anything else.

it's a game of improving your skills and having fun while doing so.

please just enjoy the game and play more. there's no need to get frustrated and make claims that things are impossible when you have the ability to change your skill level by practicing.

congrats on the FC and the acc, hopefully you can get that to 99 soon.

much love,
meow
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Aya_f
82 posts
Joined February 2022
Topic Starter
Aya_f
i can now read up to ar10.4
Rezq Gokou
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Rezq Gokou

I AM VERY SMART wrote:

AccountWontWork wrote:

well in certain cases the keypad will be a better choice, like for example the wooting, the keyboard is $200 while the keypad is only about $50
Who's going to use the wooting keyboard to play outside of osu anyway
Counter Strike, Valorant, and basically other fps players
abraker
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abraker


Hardest part to acc really is that stream towards the beginning
but nothing that a few hundred retries can't fix
Aya_f
82 posts
Joined February 2022
Topic Starter
Aya_f

abraker wrote:



Hardest part to acc really is that stream towards the beginning
but nothing that a few hundred retries can't fix
yeah the stream part is hard
i got many 100s from that
anaxii
15,000 posts
Joined December 2022
anaxii

Aya_f wrote:

abraker wrote:



Hardest part to acc really is that stream towards the beginning
but nothing that a few hundred retries can't fix
yeah the stream part is hard
i got many 100s from that
Stream with AR10 0D10 is hard yeah
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