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Maroon 5 - Moves Like Jagger ft. Christina Aguilera

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Aleks719
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Aleks719
In addition
dunno why, map page doesn't give variant to dl without video (i'm late orz)
...about stacks, mentioned by Sakura - they are fine for me.

Insane
01:29:493 (1) - 1/8 here
Hard
01:29:493 (1) - 1/6 here for the same. guys pls, someone is wrong.

A bit more for Hard
03:15:209 (1) - finish spinner 1/1 later, as in other diffs?
Hard has many 1/4 moments, would be great to reduce quantity of 1/4 for consistancy with other diffs (ofc if it's possible)

Normal
I personally have nothing against 1/2 stacks (mentioned by Sakura), but i don't like mixing stacks in easiest diffs, as example 1/1 stacks together with 1/2. so, i'd choose stacks for 1/2 and regular spacing for 1/1. anyway, just my vision and suggestion
02:49:424 (5,6) - expected 1/1 slider with reverse here
03:00:207 (2,3) - i'd move (3) 1/2 later, current 1/2 rhythm sounds strange for me http://puu.sh/cBBLV/37da110c1c.jpg

poke me l8r o/
narakucrimson
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narakucrimson
Oh hi guys!

Sakura wrote:

Hiii naraku! Hii! :D

[Insane]
01:50:355 (7,8,9) - Try to make these 3 symmetrical with 01:49:300 (2,3,4,5) ? They are actually symmetrical to 01:46:604 (7,8,9) -
01:52:230 (11,12) - These would flow better if you move them to the top right corner Alright
01:54:574 (7,8) - Feels like you ran out of space here and the positioning of 8 feels awkward, you could try moving these to the bottom left corner to have more space 01:53:871 (4,5,6) Nah, this is intentional and I don't feel it neither forced nor awkward at all ^^
02:04:653 (4,5,6,7,8) - The position of 8 looks awkward here, what were you going for? First, it is aligned with 02:04:653 (4,7) - . Second, I wanted to create a nice progressive jump pattern. It doesn't feel awkward imo.

[Normal]
00:44:253 (6,7) - Is this stack really necessary. Well the basic idea was to create a little pause before the chorus started. I think the effect itself is really cool, but maybe it isn't really needed. Removed and reworked the pattern.
02:55:050 (1,2) - I disagree with 1/2 stacks like these on the lowest diff of the set. I now use sliders instead of the two circle stacks. Didn't change the ones that were a circle-slider stack.

Good Luck! Thanks! :D
And also...

Aleks719 wrote:

In addition
dunno why, map page doesn't give variant to dl without video (i'm late orz) wut let's see if the update fixes that!
...about stacks, mentioned by Sakura - they are fine for me.

Insane
01:29:493 (1) - 1/8 here
Hard
01:29:493 (1) - 1/6 here for the same. guys pls, someone is wrong. Lol changed this one.

Normal
I personally have nothing against 1/2 stacks (mentioned by Sakura), but i don't like mixing stacks in easiest diffs, as example 1/1 stacks together with 1/2. so, i'd choose stacks for 1/2 and regular spacing for 1/1. anyway, just my vision and suggestion
02:49:424 (5,6) - expected 1/1 slider with reverse here The idea was to include a little follow-up to Christina's voice here. Don't think it's that wrong.
03:00:207 (2,3) - i'd move (3) 1/2 later, current 1/2 rhythm sounds strange for me http://puu.sh/cBBLV/37da110c1c.jpg Again, this is all to emphasize Christina's voice. I think it's a very relevant elemet of the song in this particular part. Let me know if that doesn't convince you!

poke me l8r o/ I'll tell you when the gurls answer to the mod :P
Thanks a lot! :D
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Naraku, it's 1/6, I listened extremely closely.
Avena
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Avena
ffs naraku it's 1/6
Reiji-RJ
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Joined April 2010
Reiji-RJ

Sakura wrote:

[Hard]
00:37:455 (5,1) - Uh, for starters i dont think these should be stacked, but if you keep it then: I like this stacks~

Stack properly pls u.u
01:40:744 (3,4,5) - This looks kinda meh, would be better if you formed a triangle or something. Lizzy!
01:59:028 (1) - Eh i think you should remove this spinner, it's pretty short + post-spinner notes are quite close anyway. Removed
02:45:205 (1,1) - Sorry but these are too close, you'd need at least 1 full measure between spinner end and the post-spinner note on Hard. Made 1/1
02:59:738 (4,1) - I would expect some of your unique slider stacking here, but seems like it's different on this one, any specific reason? cause I do these stacks on sliders very rarely
03:15:209 (1) - Use finish instead of whistle? Lizzy? D:
Thank you!

Aleks719 wrote:

A bit more for Hard
03:15:209 (1) - finish spinner 1/1 later, as in other diffs?
Hard has many 1/4 moments, would be great to reduce quantity of 1/4 for consistancy with other diffs (ofc if it's possible) Fixed some 1/4

Спасибо!
http://puu.sh/cEyuf/0eb012cbe6.osu

BTW for Naraku:

Insane

  1. 00:44:018 (3,4,5) - 1/6 here (but 1/4 plays good for me anyway, just letting you know if you want to fix it :3)
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Reiji-RJ
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Reiji-RJ
Omg double post, sorry ;w;
Secretpipe
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Secretpipe
Cool map :D
narakucrimson
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Topic Starter
narakucrimson
Thanks Secretpipe! :D

Also yeah you might be right about the 1/6ths.

Updated!
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Sakura wrote:

02:45:205 (1,1) - Sorry but these are too close, you'd need at least 1 full measure between spinner end and the post-spinner note on Hard.
Show me where it says so in the guidelines/ranking criteria.

Sakura wrote:

01:40:744 (3,4,5) - This looks kinda meh, would be better if you formed a triangle or something.
Well I could think about it, I spaced the circles before (4,5) so hugely because singer's pitch reaches a peak. (4,5) are evenly spaced, also towards following (1), because pitch stays the same on (4,5). Anyway, could change this in the future.

Sakura wrote:

03:15:209 (1) - Use finish instead of whistle?
Nope, because a finish emphasizes the end of drumset too much. A whistle is much more delicate.

Aleks719 wrote:

03:15:209 (1) - finish spinner 1/1 later, as in other diffs?
I didn't do that because there's no actual beat on where the other diffs stop. The way I stopped is made more closely to the last drum hit.


I sound picky, yes I do. But for a reason..... sorry guys for lack of fixes! :(

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152,284,181379,1,2,0:3:0:0:
132,176,181613,1,8,0:2:0:0:
24,196,181848,1,2,0:0:0:0:
152,284,182082,5,4,0:0:0:0:
260,264,182317,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,344,182551,1,8,0:0:0:0:
437,318,182786,2,2,P|469:266|473:210,1,107.999996704102,2|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
394,130,183254,1,2,0:0:0:0:
274,147,183489,2,0,P|242:199|238:255,2,107.999996704102,8|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,64,184192,2,2,B|156:56|76:52|120:152|24:152|-12:132,2,215.999993408203,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
296,104,185364,1,8,0:0:0:0:
404,76,185598,1,2,2:0:0:0:
357,173,185833,6,0,B|365:273|365:273|401:333,1,161.999995056153,4|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
387,337,186302,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,316,186536,2,2,L|132:324,1,107.999996704102,2|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
76,240,187005,1,2,0:0:0:0:
128,144,187239,2,0,P|164:156|240:148,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
188,52,187708,1,0,0:0:0:0:
237,155,187942,2,2,B|208:181|196:280|268:233|260:337|220:361,2,215.999993408203
332,116,189114,2,2,P|340:172|304:232,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
440,264,189583,6,2,P|468:184|460:96,1,161.999995056153,6|0,0:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
448,76,190052,1,8,0:0:0:0:
342,134,190286,2,2,L|225:139,1,107.999996704102,2|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
178,230,190755,1,2,0:0:0:0:
219,129,190990,2,0,P|228:78|211:20,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
69,103,191458,2,2,P|57:162|84:263,1,161.999995056153,6|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
72,268,191927,2,0,L|185:261,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,296,192396,1,0,3:0:0:0:
384,252,192630,2,0,P|392:196|378:144,2,107.999996704102,2|8|2,1:1|1:1|1:1,0:0:0:0:
224,328,193334,6,2,P|211:275|219:222,1,107.999996704102,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,68,193803,2,2,P|312:120|304:173,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,136,194271,2,2,P|168:123|221:131,1,107.999996704102,2|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
396,248,194740,2,0,P|343:260|290:252,1,107.999996704102,10|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,195209,12,2,196615,2:0:0:0:
did change one awkward pattern tho
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Updated
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D33d
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Sorry for going AWOL. I'm going to do what I can to help this set, so I'll check my parts and see what you've changed.
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Lizzy wrote:

Sakura wrote:

02:45:205 (1,1) - Sorry but these are too close, you'd need at least 1 full measure between spinner end and the post-spinner note on Hard.
Show me where it says so in the guidelines/ranking criteria.
p/3359472

Garven wrote:

Using these settings as criteria:

BPM 160

Easy: 1 full measure of recovery time -> 1500 ms
Normal: 2 beats recovery time -> 750 ms
Hard: 1 beat recovery time -> 375 ms
Insane or higher: Any (within musical reason)

Having a hardline is unreasonable due to varying BPM however, so having a little leeway is fine, but this as a guideline should give sufficient recovery time for players of the respective difficulty levels.
Actually i said 1 full measure, but i meant 1 beat, heh.
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Yeah, as I told you via private:

Garven told me that the rule is very adamant about hitobjects. He said that spinners shouldn't be a problem, as in having a separation of 1/2 beat between spinners is ok.

You can check that with him anyway, but I believe that solves it :)

Naraku out!
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The issue about post-spinner objects is for resetting the cursor to aim at your next target. Spinners don't need that.

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like I had a choice.... hrrr

http://puu.sh/cO5V5/17e828ea1e.osu
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Okay it's updated again. COuld we get that bubble going pleeeeeease?
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Before i remod this recheck the metadata, because i believe it goes more like this recently qualified map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/156371
(Also this means that it can't get qualified anyway until that map is out of qualified)
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we went through this a million times.... you know, mancuso naraku and so on

really now?
narakucrimson
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Yeah, read the thread Sakura xD

We've already discussed this and reached a conscensus, the metadata is correct as is.
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Yeah but then doesnt that mean the other one needs to be DQ'd?
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Yes it does, strictly speaking
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I posted there, i'll wait for a reply from a QAT if the QAT says theirs is wrong and yours is correct then i'll proceed to recheck this, if they agree theirs is correct then i'll have to ask you to change it before a bubble.
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Hey there! I'll just quote what I wrote in the other thread (https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3497820):

TicClick wrote:

well, I guess "Maroon 5 - Moves Like Jagger ft. Christina Aguilera" is the closest to official metadata. Please fix and call me!
P.S. The change is discussed with Sakura & Aleks719.
P.P.S. It's also based on Lanturn's post, which is just a cli post away from mine. You can't count audio CD booklets as official sources, since they are sometimes changed in favor of better look.
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Okay I'll change it, I DON'T WANT TO READ NOT EVEN ONE MORE COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TITLE :)
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narakucrimson wrote:

Okay I'll change it, I DON'T WANT TO READ NOT EVEN ONE MORE COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TITLE :)
lol me neither!

ok can we get this going now ples?
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Solo dejare esto tambien con relacion al boton de no video


Bubbled!

Next BAT: Take in mind that there's another qualified version of this song, please wait before ranking until https://osu.ppy.sh/s/156371 is out of qualify.
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yaaay <3
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Yes yes, one of the best map of 2014 is finally getting rolling <3
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Finally, after a year of waiting ;-;

Thanks!
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bro dood guy

map is good, overall
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Popped due to the controversial 1/8 // 1/6 slider. Decided on 1/8 and fixed.
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narakucrimson wrote:

Popped due to the controversial 1/8 // 1/6 slider. Decided on 1/8 and fixed.
Rebubbled
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Popping over the issue marked in bold.

[Normal]

  1. 00:44:721 - Consider adding a circle here or fix the spacing of the 2/1-gap. At the moment it is too small and it might cause readability problems, imo your easiest diff must be as simple as possible.
[Hard]

  1. 03:17:084 - Adding a circle here would be nice, preferably into the middle of the playfield. It'd make the map end at the same spot like the other difficulties. Also, atm it seems weird that kiai ends after the map.
[Insane]

  1. 00:44:018 (3,4,5) - This was 1/4 before you updated which was not correct ;w;
  2. 02:37:704 (1,2,3) - The triplet feels wrong to me at this place.. It's (from what I recognized) the only triplet that starts on white, so it's not really intuitive, and at 02:38:290 I can't hear a sound. I'd recommend a rhythm like this http://puu.sh/cXeGc/fb3ce26585.jpg - It fits the vocals perfectly and would be consistent with 02:40:048 (8,9,10) -
(Almost) flawless :)
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Changes discussed via irc, updated!
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After asking around for some more opinions, from both QATs and BATs, we came to the conclusion that the two low spacings in Normal need to go, or atleast we highly recommend you to remove them. The gaps are not big enough so the spacing doesn't matter, because the second object is already visible during the first object.

00:44:253 (6,1) - Possible solution would be to Ctl+G 00:43:315 (4,5,6) -
01:58:324 (3,1) - As a suggestion, maybe you could switch the positions of 02:00:200 (1) and 02:02:075 (3) - ?

Call me afterwards.
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Both fixed, also:

  1. Changed the video offset so that it actually fits the song. (-760 ms)
  2. Rearranged 01:04:880 (2,3,4,5,6) - .
Updated and ready to go
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Rebubbled! Awesome mapset :)

Rebubbled (ﾉ 'ω')ﾉ
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Thaaaaaank you man! :D

Also next BAT, remember not to rank until Gero's version moves out of Qualified!
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Does this map should have same BPM as Gero's version, or Gero's one have wrong timing?
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This was already discussed, both BPMs work. Obviously one is correct, but the difference is minimal.

So it was decided not to change any BPM. I personally believe this one is better though.
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