Maroon 5 - Moves Like Jagger ft. Christina Aguilera‬ · forum‬

Reiji-RJ

Joined April 2010

Reiji-RJ 2014-07-28T08:33:26+00:00

I apologize for not answering to mods.
Unfortunately I have no access to my PC now, so want Lizzy to fix my parts, please :<

narakucrimson

osu! Alumni

1,713 posts

Joined March 2010

Topic Starter

narakucrimson 2014-07-29T14:28:45+00:00

Lol thanks a lot BAKER BAKER!

I really hadn't noticed that the video had sound, since I was using an existing map & files. Very keen observation.

Also, I already know how to change a video offset hahahaha but thanks for trying to explain it anyway.

Krisom

osu! Alumni

2,867 posts

Joined April 2009

Krisom 2014-07-30T21:45:16+00:00

Ohai o/

Insane
00:29:954 (10,1,2,3) - Still think they should be evenly spaced. Move (1) further away please.
00:31:829 (7) - Finish is a tad too much for the vocalist high pitch. Maybe a normal whistle or a clap.
00:35:580 (11) - ^
01:47:307 (10) - Rankeable? Before I was absent, sliderticks that were outside the grid were considered unrankeable because it'd make the map impossible to be SS'd in CtB. Same 01:51:058 (10) EDIT: Asked in #lounge. They still are. EDIT2: No they're not, it gets autofixed on CtB. Glad to know that now.
02:32:782 (4) - I feel a whistle would help follow the rhythm better.
02:38:525 - No circle here makes me :'(

Great as expected.

Hard
00:30:188 (1,2) - Manually stack them like the others. (ex: 00:33:939 (1,2) - )
01:31:368 (3,4) - Is this ok for a hard nowdays? kids these days

, haha
01:40:041 (7,1,2,3,4,5) - Nope. First, there's no reason to increase the spacing after (7) since there's no musical cue. Also WHY is (5) underlapped by (3)!? If you make (1,2,3,4,5) a star pattern I'll forgive everything.
02:03:950 (1,2,3,4,5) - Is this really ok for a hard nowdays? At least add a NC at (5) (or at (6)) to make the player know the spacing will be going back to normal.
02:18:014 (4,5) - I'd really really REALLY consider unstacking all these on the slow section. This is the cue you've been using the whole diff for a 1/4 slider end.

Nice.

Normal
I feel you've abused the normal finish here. Also, why not reduce the slider tickrate? For these rhythms it feels like a lot.
01:08:396 (2,3) - I love you too <3
02:26:453 (3) - Shouldn't this be soft?
03:00:441 (3) - Just make this start at (2)'s. Feels weird right now.

As expected, not much to say. Great mapset.

Sonnyc

7,776 posts

Joined June 2008

Sonnyc 2014-07-31T14:34:29+00:00

Random suggestion for a great song & map. Since it's so tiny, no need to kd.

Insane:

02:47:080 (1) - Everytime the kiai starts, it just started with a single Finish, without a whistle. This hitsound usage feels a little off in consistency, and even if it was an intention of an emphasis, still I didn't felt nice.
03:00:441 (9,10) - I think just tabbing ctrl+G while selecting both would construct a smoother flow. Why don't you try it?
03:17:084 (8) - How about adding an extra combo at this last note to give a stable ending of the map? Also since there is a volume change, this note feels seperated from the previous combe section.

Star Star~~ Good luck! I always like your maps.

quiz-chan_DELETED

quiz-chan_DELETED 2014-07-31T22:12:39+00:00

Krisom wrote:
Ohai o/ wow, hi

Hard
00:30:188 (1,2) - Manually stack them like the others. (ex: 00:33:939 (1,2) - ) well ok I guess
01:31:368 (3,4) - Is this ok for a hard nowdays? kids these days , haha yes it's okay. it's not like you follow (3) to the end? you literally just press the start and then hop over to (4).
01:40:041 (7,1,2,3,4,5) - Nope. First, there's no reason to increase the spacing after (7) since there's no musical cue. Also WHY is (5) underlapped by (3)!? If you make (1,2,3,4,5) a star pattern I'll forgive everything. There is a reason; singer raising pitch noticably. I'll consider later though.
02:03:950 (1,2,3,4,5) - Is this really ok for a hard nowdays? At least add a NC at (5) (or at (6)) to make the player know the spacing will be going back to normal. Nope, it was just me being uncreative. I'll let something happen about it.
02:18:014 (4,5) - I'd really really REALLY consider unstacking all these on the slow section. This is the cue you've been using the whole diff for a 1/4 slider end. Gotta ask Reiji D:

Nice. thanks
As expected, not much to say. Great mapset. yeah I think so too

Thanks a lot, Krisom!
Yeah, the newer ways are a little different than what you are used to. You might wanna hit me up on that one if you wanna know more.

nevermind, everything fixed! v

Naraku!

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237,155,187942,2,2,B|208:181|196:280|268:233|260:337|220:361,2,215.999993408203
332,116,189114,2,2,P|340:172|304:232,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
440,264,189583,6,2,P|468:184|460:96,1,161.999995056153,6|0,0:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
448,76,190052,1,8,0:0:0:0:
342,134,190286,2,2,L|225:139,1,107.999996704102,2|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
178,230,190755,1,2,0:0:0:0:
219,129,190990,2,0,P|228:78|211:20,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
69,103,191458,2,2,P|57:162|84:263,1,161.999995056153,6|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
72,268,191927,2,0,L|185:261,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,296,192396,1,0,3:0:0:0:
384,252,192630,2,0,P|392:196|378:144,2,107.999996704102,2|8|2,1:1|1:1|1:1,0:0:0:0:
224,328,193334,6,2,P|211:275|219:222,1,107.999996704102,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,68,193803,2,2,P|312:120|304:173,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,136,194271,2,2,P|168:123|221:131,1,107.999996704102,2|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
396,248,194740,2,0,P|343:260|290:252,1,107.999996704102,10|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,195209,12,2,196615,2:0:0:0:

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narakucrimson 2014-08-01T14:30:58+00:00

Krisom wrote:
Ohai o/

Insane
00:29:954 (10,1,2,3) - Still think they should be evenly spaced. Move (1) further away please. First, for the sake of the pattern, no. Second, it doesn't feel bad at all!
00:31:829 (7) - Finish is a tad too much for the vocalist high pitch. Maybe a normal whistle or a clap.
00:35:580 (11) - ^ Again I don't fully agree, but I changed them for whistles
01:47:307 (10) - Rankeable? Before I was absent, sliderticks that were outside the grid were considered unrankeable because it'd make the map impossible to be SS'd in CtB. Same 01:51:058 (10) EDIT: Asked in #lounge. They still are. EDIT2: No they're not, it gets autofixed on CtB. Glad to know that now.
02:32:782 (4) - I feel a whistle would help follow the rhythm better. It would create emphasis where I don't want it, so no :C
02:38:525 - No circle here makes me :'( Reworked the pattern to add a circle

Great as expected.

Normal
I feel you've abused the normal finish here. Also, why not reduce the slider tickrate? For these rhythms it feels like a lot.
The hitsounds had a lot of thought behind them, they are fine ^^ also, the tick rate helps follow some rythms that I can't really get with the hit objects, I believe it feels pretty good!
01:08:396 (2,3) - I love you too <3 :3
02:26:453 (3) - Shouldn't this be soft? No
03:00:441 (3) - Just make this start at (2)'s. Feels weird right now. Why? Not only it really isn't a problem, but also it manages to put a lot of emphasis on the voice, which is something I really like.

As expected, not much to say. Great mapset.

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narakucrimson 2014-08-01T14:33:02+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Random suggestion for a great song & map. Since it's so tiny, no need to kd.

Insane:
03:17:084 (8) - How about adding an extra combo at this last note to give a stable ending of the map? Also since there is a volume change, this note feels seperated from the previous combe section. Yeah, sounds like a good idea
Star Star~~ Good luck! I always like your maps.

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D33d 2014-08-02T15:37:11+00:00

Sonnyc wrote:
Random suggestion for a great song & map. Since it's so tiny, no need to kd.

Insane:
02:47:080 (1) - Everytime the kiai starts, it just started with a single Finish, without a whistle. This hitsound usage feels a little off in consistency, and even if it was an intention of an emphasis, still I didn't felt nice. I felt that it was appropriate as a one-time climax, so I don't know what I'd rather do.
03:00:441 (9,10) - I think just tabbing ctrl+G while selecting both would construct a smoother flow. Why don't you try it? I just tried it and I know that it wouldn't work, simply by looking at it. I wanted a sharp directional change upward to match the vocal's change in intensity.
03:17:084 (8) - How about adding an extra combo at this last note to give a stable ending of the map? Also since there is a volume change, this note feels seperated from the previous combe section.
Not my point to address, but new combos create an awkward double combo finish. If anything, that would probably destabilise the ending even more. Finishes go on the end of a pattern.

Star Star~~ Good luck! I always like your maps.

Fuck yes, I got a Krisom clean sweep (also, I think naraku's finishes are fine).

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Kenezz 2014-08-24T08:16:37+00:00

Hey! no quiero que me vuelvas loco (?

[General]

Asegúrate de deshabilitar widescreen support en todas las dificultades, a pesar de que Hard e Insane si cuentan con un SB no es necesario porque el BG es menor a 1366x768 pixeles y esto ocasiona que se adecue a la pantalla: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1960047, si contaras con un BG 1366x768 las franjas negras con el widescreen support activado se eliminarían y de esa manera si sería de utilidad. Por todo lo anterior esa opción no es necesaria en este map.
Las reglas hoy en día son un poco estrictas respecto a que el artista y el titulo estén correctamente, en este caso el artista debería ser únicamente "Maroon 5" y el titulo "Moves Like Jagger (feat. Christina Aguilera)". Aquí la fuente.
Nada necesario pero que te parece agregar "Adam Levine" y "Hands All Over" a las tags?

[Normal]

Al parecer se te olvidó agregar los otros combo colors en está dificultad, asegúrate que sean los mismos que en Hard e Insane.
02:45:205 - ¿Que te parece agregar un spinner aquí? La verdad es que encaja perfectamente con la pista y podría terminar 1/1 antes del siguiente circle para no hacerlo tan difícil, además de que el circle esta justo en el centro. Si estas de acuerdo supongo que necesitarás hacer lo mismo en Insane para ser consistente.

[Hard]

Cambia el nombre de la dificultad a "Collab Hard" para especificar que se trata de un collab, lo mismo para el Insane donde deberá ser "Collab Insane", las reglas nuevas otra vez, blah blah.
How about HP & OD+1? Now the setup seems kinda low to an Hard diff.

Lizzy
00:52:691 (1) - *nazi* Remove the red control point of this slider to make it smoother. http://puu.sh/b5zAL/a545032935.png
00:55:738 (1) - This combo with only one slider looks pretty weird-oh, maybe try this: 00:54:566 (6) - Add new combo here (fits perfectly with the music) and then remove the new combo here.
01:28:321 - The rhythmic break should start here.
01:36:759 (1) - How about make a straight slider instead this one? imo looks/fits better: http://puu.sh/b5A3f/a37e3c73c2.png
01:41:213 (5) - To be consistent with the spacing change of this combo, stack this circle with (3). Now the spacing between this circle and the previous is weird, you know why.
02:40:986 (7) - Move the second control point to the opposite side, I find this way better to the flow. http://puu.sh/b5ACJ/ea5d10f03f.png
03:17:084 - Add a circle with finish here maybe? In Normal & Insane works pretty well, why not here?.

Reiji
01:14:022 (5) - *nazi* Move both control points to opposite side to make a smoother slider: http://puu.sh/b5zRA/d114d77531.png
01:54:574 (1) - Considers move this downwards and Ctrl+Ging the next slider to make a jump consistent with 01:52:699 (1). Something like this: http://puu.sh/b5Apv/d7411e1bf8.png

[Insane]

D33D

00:54:566 (9) - Considers add NC here. I mean, the symmetric sequence begins here and this combo is turning long.
01:09:568 (9) - Same thing here.
02:28:328 (1) - Remove this NC and add one to 02:29:031 (9), if you don't add with the first thing at least considers add nc to 02:29:031 (9) since the sv changes (really considers).
02:56:457 (10) - Again with the nc issue, add one here and remove from 02:57:629 (1), then add new combo in 02:58:332 (8). idk I find this way better.
03:00:441 (6) - Okay maybe here the NC is really necessary, c'mon the spacing is totally different in comparison with the previous.

Naraku
00:33:939 (6) - Puede que no sea necesario pero siento que deberías agregar un NC aquí. Hiciste lo mismo aquí 00:36:517 (1) y es prácticamente el mismo espacio entre ambos patrones.
00:43:081 (5) - No sé si te guste pero intenta hacerle Ctrl+G a este slider, creo que podrías mejorar el flujo ya que el slider anterior sigue el mismo curso que este. Sobre el siguiente circle no veo el problema ya que es fácil seguirlo desde que a los slider 1/2 solo es necesario mantener el cursor en el inicio para lograrlos.
01:28:321 - Agrega un rhythmic break que empiece aquí (como lo hiciste en normal).
01:54:574 (7) - La verdad no soy fanático de los combos largos así que quizás agrega un nc aquí (va bien con la secuencia simetrica). Vamos! algunos en esta diff son verdaderamente muy largos.
01:58:324 (5) - NC por el cambio en la pista, y si quizás aquí no, puede que en el siguiente circle si sea necesario.
02:09:576 (7) - Lo mismo de los NC, solo lo mencionaré porque me llaman bastante la atención.
02:14:029 (10,11) - Que el primer slider termine en un tick azúl y el circle este en uno blanco puede llegar a confundir bastante, quizás sigan apropiadamente la pista pero resulta confuso de verdad. Considera eliminar el circle y agregar una repetición al slider.
02:35:829 (9) - Aquí creo que vendría bien un NC, aparte de que el sv aumenta ligeramente, tanto la voz como el espaciado sugieren uno.
03:11:458 (7) - Lo mismo, perdón por la insistencia pero siento que son verdaderamente necesarios.
03:17:084 (8) - Agrega quizas un NC aquí, no es muy necesario pero queda bastante bien por el cambio en la pista y el volumen del finish.

Pff pensé que me tomaría menos terminarlo, espero que te sirva de ayuda
Y no te preocupes por mi guest diff, ya está en marcha.

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narakucrimson 2014-08-25T20:35:58+00:00

Kenezz wrote:
Hey! no quiero que me vuelvas loco (?

[General]
Asegúrate de deshabilitar widescreen support en todas las dificultades, a pesar de que Hard e Insane si cuentan con un SB no es necesario porque el BG es menor a 1366x768 pixeles y esto ocasiona que se adecue a la pantalla: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1960047, si contaras con un BG 1366x768 las franjas negras con el widescreen support activado se eliminarían y de esa manera si sería de utilidad. Por todo lo anterior esa opción no es necesaria en este map. No termino de entender, con y sin Widescreen Support, el background se sigue ajustando... Pero bueno.
Las reglas hoy en día son un poco estrictas respecto a que el artista y el titulo estén correctamente, en este caso el artista debería ser únicamente "Maroon 5" y el titulo "Moves Like Jagger (feat. Christina Aguilera)". Aquí la fuente. Listo!
Nada necesario pero que te parece agregar "Adam Levine" y "Hands All Over" a las tags?

[Normal]
Al parecer se te olvidó agregar los otros combo colors en está dificultad, asegúrate que sean los mismos que en Hard e Insane. No, la idea es que solo sean los colores de un mapper, denota que no es un collab.
02:45:205 - ¿Que te parece agregar un spinner aquí? La verdad es que encaja perfectamente con la pista y podría terminar 1/1 antes del siguiente circle para no hacerlo tan difícil, además de que el circle esta justo en el centro. Si estas de acuerdo supongo que necesitarás hacer lo mismo en Insane para ser consistente. Prefiero la pausa!
[Hard]
Cambia el nombre de la dificultad a "Collab Hard" para especificar que se trata de un collab, lo mismo para el Insane donde deberá ser "Collab Insane", las reglas nuevas otra vez, blah blah.
How about HP & OD+1? Now the setup seems kinda low to an Hard diff.

Lizzy
00:52:691 (1) - *nazi* Remove the red control point of this slider to make it smoother. http://puu.sh/b5zAL/a545032935.png
00:55:738 (1) - This combo with only one slider looks pretty weird-oh, maybe try this: 00:54:566 (6) - Add new combo here (fits perfectly with the music) and then remove the new combo here.
01:28:321 - The rhythmic break should start here.
01:36:759 (1) - How about make a straight slider instead this one? imo looks/fits better: http://puu.sh/b5A3f/a37e3c73c2.png
01:41:213 (5) - To be consistent with the spacing change of this combo, stack this circle with (3). Now the spacing between this circle and the previous is weird, you know why.
02:40:986 (7) - Move the second control point to the opposite side, I find this way better to the flow. http://puu.sh/b5ACJ/ea5d10f03f.png
03:17:084 - Add a circle with finish here maybe? In Normal & Insane works pretty well, why not here?.

Reiji
01:14:022 (5) - *nazi* Move both control points to opposite side to make a smoother slider: http://puu.sh/b5zRA/d114d77531.png
01:54:574 (1) - Considers move this downwards and Ctrl+Ging the next slider to make a jump consistent with 01:52:699 (1). Something like this: http://puu.sh/b5Apv/d7411e1bf8.png
[Insane]

D33D
00:54:566 (9) - Considers add NC here. I mean, the symmetric sequence begins here and this combo is turning long.
01:09:568 (9) - Same thing here.
02:28:328 (1) - Remove this NC and add one to 02:29:031 (9), if you don't add with the first thing at least considers add nc to 02:29:031 (9) since the sv changes (really considers).
02:56:457 (10) - Again with the nc issue, add one here and remove from 02:57:629 (1), then add new combo in 02:58:332 (8). idk I find this way better.
03:00:441 (6) - Okay maybe here the NC is really necessary, c'mon the spacing is totally different in comparison with the previous.

Naraku
00:33:939 (6) - Puede que no sea necesario pero siento que deberías agregar un NC aquí. Hiciste lo mismo aquí 00:36:517 (1) y es prácticamente el mismo espacio entre ambos patrones. Lo mismo!
00:43:081 (5) - No sé si te guste pero intenta hacerle Ctrl+G a este slider, creo que podrías mejorar el flujo ya que el slider anterior sigue el mismo curso que este. Sobre el siguiente circle no veo el problema ya que es fácil seguirlo desde que a los slider 1/2 solo es necesario mantener el cursor en el inicio para lograrlos. No le hice precisamente Ctrl + G a ese slider, pero hice otra cosa. No me parecía tan imperante.
01:28:321 - Agrega un rhythmic break que empiece aquí (como lo hiciste en normal). Originalmente estaba, no sé qué pasó!
01:54:574 (7) - La verdad no soy fanático de los combos largos así que quizás agrega un nc aquí (va bien con la secuencia simetrica). Vamos! algunos en esta diff son verdaderamente muy largos.
01:58:324 (5) - NC por el cambio en la pista, y si quizás aquí no, puede que en el siguiente circle si sea necesario.
02:09:576 (7) - Lo mismo de los NC, solo lo mencionaré porque me llaman bastante la atención. No voy a cambiar ningún combo :S
02:14:029 (10,11) - Que el primer slider termine en un tick azúl y el circle este en uno blanco puede llegar a confundir bastante, quizás sigan apropiadamente la pista pero resulta confuso de verdad. Considera eliminar el circle y agregar una repetición al slider. La idea es que presten atención al hitcircle, no me parece que esté mal.
02:35:829 (9) - Aquí creo que vendría bien un NC, aparte de que el sv aumenta ligeramente, tanto la voz como el espaciado sugieren uno.
03:11:458 (7) - Lo mismo, perdón por la insistencia pero siento que son verdaderamente necesarios.
03:17:084 (8) - Agrega quizas un NC aquí, no es muy necesario pero queda bastante bien por el cambio en la pista y el volumen del finish.
Pff pensé que me tomaría menos terminarlo, espero que te sirva de ayuda
Y no te preocupes por mi guest diff, ya está en marcha.

Perdón por los combos pero se quedan así. Gracias!

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D33d 2014-08-25T22:20:56+00:00

Combomods: sorry, I won't be changing any of them any time soon, since I had specific ideas for phrasing. I might split one or two longer combos, but I don't recall there being anything overly long. As for spacing, I never NC spacing changes for the sake of it, so it's generally better to point out spacing issues for my mapping.

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Gonzvlo 2014-08-26T01:02:22+00:00

narakucrimson wrote:
[General]
Las reglas hoy en día son un poco estrictas respecto a que el artista y el titulo estén correctamente, en este caso el artista debería ser únicamente "Maroon 5" y el titulo "Moves Like Jagger (feat. Christina Aguilera)". Aquí la fuente. Listo!

Una acotación sobre algo que muchas veces resulta ambiguo y en lo que las fuentes se suelen contradecir.

iTunes identifica a un solo nombre en el campo de artista cuando el otro artista es un un artista de apoyo, tan solo cuando es un dueto o algo así los identifica a ambos en el campo de 'Artist' (Como por ejemplo en Princess of China). Aún así, me parece que todos los artistas aunque sean colaboradores los deberías incluir en el campo de 'Artist' ya que el Título propiamente dicho es tan solo "Moves Like Jagger". Por ejemplo, en Wiki en el título incluyen a la parte del "featuring" pero no dentro de las comillas que indican el título en sí, sino simplemente al costado con una fuente pequeña http://prntscr.com/4ghyd7

Bueno, no puedo estar 100% seguro, de cualquier forma estaría bien pero yo creo que se ve mucho mejor si sólo incluyes el título propiamente dicho en el campo respectivo.

Si quieres que revise esto me avisas :d

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Kenezz 2014-08-26T01:34:56+00:00

Bien, indagando más sobre el tema del titulo creo que Gonz tiene razón, al parecer muchas fuentes como Itunes consideran agregar únicamente al campo del artista a aquellos que hallan colaborado en la canción/canciones una mayor parte de esta (como es el caso de los duetos).

Ahora, para determinar cual es el titulo y artista correcto he buscado el formato físico del tema (que me ha resultado ser la fuente más confiable por obvias razones) y esto fue lo que encontré:

A) http://puu.sh/b80Jz/12151c1037.png
B) http://puu.sh/b80O7/56167ae380.png

Como habrás notado, tanto el titulo como el artista estaban correctos como los tenías (sorry), aunque con una pequeña diferencia: El "feat." debe extenderse a "featuring" quedando el artista finalmente como: "Maroon 5 featuring Christina Aguilera" y el titulo "Moves Like Jagger"

PD: Revisa el primer punto en el mod que le hice al Hard, creo que se te pasó por alto.

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quiz-chan_DELETED 2014-08-26T09:41:37+00:00

Cannot respond for 2+ weeks. I think you're lucky if Reiji is coming back anytime soon... because if that's the case, I'd like her to take care of my parts, the way she thinks it's right.

But right now, I can't... sorry :I

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narakucrimson 2014-08-27T02:49:44+00:00

Nunca vi un "featuring" completo en una canción en ningún lado, creo que me corto las venas antes de poner la palabra entera... No puede ser la abreviatura?

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Krisom 2014-08-27T02:56:53+00:00

Amigo, lamento decirtelo pero parece que tendrás que cortarte las venas owo;

SPOILER

Avisame cuando tomes una desición para darle recheck (a menos que Kenzy o Gonz ya esten en ello, en cuyo caso me encargo de la burbuja)

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quiz-chan_DELETED 2014-08-27T19:17:46+00:00

Kenezz wrote:
[Hard]
Cambia el nombre de la dificultad a "Collab Hard" para especificar que se trata de un collab, lo mismo para el Insane donde deberá ser "Collab Insane", las reglas nuevas otra vez, blah blah. Are you saying this is a new rule? If not, I'd strongly advise against changing the names since the sb kinda tells they're collabs. Even if it's a rule, I hate it by now.
How about HP & OD+1? Now the setup seems kinda low to an Hard diff. make it rather 6,5 both

Lizzy
00:52:691 (1) - *nazi* Remove the red control point of this slider to make it smoother. http://puu.sh/b5zAL/a545032935.png doesn't change much, but I think I can go with it.
00:55:738 (1) - This combo with only one slider looks pretty weird-oh, maybe try this: 00:54:566 (6) - Add new combo here (fits perfectly with the music) and then remove the new combo here. The NC isn't weird because it makes sense the way it's sitting between both combos. It feels weird not having it, mind you, the singer has started a new sentence here already.
01:28:321 - The rhythmic break should start here. ??? I don't really get what you mean.
01:36:759 (1) - How about make a straight slider instead this one? imo looks/fits better: http://puu.sh/b5A3f/a37e3c73c2.png it doesn't really fit better, and I did that on purpose, but it wouldn't change anythingwithout red node.
01:41:213 (5) - To be consistent with the spacing change of this combo, stack this circle with (3). Now the spacing between this circle and the previous is weird, you know why. I currently don't have the editor in front of me, so I can't tell visually. But I've memorized the section well enough and as I listened to that part on mp3, it sounds like a part where I'm sure abou what I did. I'll take another look at it whenever possible, though.
02:40:986 (7) - Move the second control point to the opposite side, I find this way better to the flow. http://puu.sh/b5ACJ/ea5d10f03f.png Yeah looks nice, I'll have the pattern in the example built in!
03:17:084 - Add a circle with finish here maybe? In Normal & Insane works pretty well, why not here? I doesn't exactly work well, I mean think about it: there's not even a beat in the song that it would be mapped to.

Reiji
01:14:022 (5) - *nazi* Move both control points to opposite side to make a smoother slider: http://puu.sh/b5zRA/d114d77531.png
01:54:574 (1) - Considers move this downwards and Ctrl+Ging the next slider to make a jump consistent with 01:52:699 (1). Something like this: http://puu.sh/b5Apv/d7411e1bf8.png
I advise against both suggestions; both points were made intentionally and I can't help but suggest to wait on Reiji's opinion. :/

Thank you!

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narakucrimson 2014-08-27T22:45:35+00:00

Okay, fixed everything that I was allowed to haha

The map is up now!

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mancuso_JM_ 2014-08-28T00:07:08+00:00

lol.. ese ''featuring'' en el titulo se ve horrible.. no horrible no.. espantoso! D: quizas horrible y espantoso al mismo tiempo xd
Tenia que decirlo hehe.. Suerte con el mapa

!

*runs*

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Kenezz 2014-08-31T22:47:54+00:00

narakucrimson wrote:
[Normal]
Al parecer se te olvidó agregar los otros combo colors en está dificultad, asegúrate que sean los mismos que en Hard e Insane. No, la idea es que solo sean los colores de un mapper, denota que no es un collab.

En ese caso agrega también los combos nuevos en esta diff y ajustalos manualmente para que solo se muestren los "default", estoy seguro que como los tienes ahora son unrankeables porque todas las diffs deben tener los mismos combo colors

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narakucrimson 2014-09-01T02:31:26+00:00

Really? Eso parece una regla tan tonta... Pero bueno, si es necesario... Ahí lo arreglé

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Xiaolin 2014-09-05T20:29:03+00:00

Lol, when I first read the title, I pronounced it ''Move Like Jeager'' blame snk pls

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Sakura 2014-11-02T02:14:23+00:00

Hiii naraku!

[Insane]
01:50:355 (7,8,9) - Try to make these 3 symmetrical with 01:49:300 (2,3,4,5) ?
01:52:230 (11,12) - These would flow better if you move them to the top right corner
01:54:574 (7,8) - Feels like you ran out of space here and the positioning of 8 feels awkward, you could try moving these to the bottom left corner to have more space 01:53:871 (4,5,6)
02:04:653 (4,5,6,7,8) - The position of 8 looks awkward here, what were you going for?

[Hard]
00:37:455 (5,1) - Uh, for starters i dont think these should be stacked, but if you keep it then:

Stack properly pls u.u
01:40:744 (3,4,5) - This looks kinda meh, would be better if you formed a triangle or something.
01:59:028 (1) - Eh i think you should remove this spinner, it's pretty short + post-spinner notes are quite close anyway.
02:45:205 (1,1) - Sorry but these are too close, you'd need at least 1 full measure between spinner end and the post-spinner note on Hard.
02:59:738 (4,1) - I would expect some of your unique slider stacking here, but seems like it's different on this one, any specific reason?
03:15:209 (1) - Use finish instead of whistle?

[Normal]
00:44:253 (6,7) - Is this stack really necessary.
02:55:050 (1,2) - I disagree with 1/2 stacks like these on the lowest diff of the set.

Good Luck!

Aleks719

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Aleks719 2014-11-03T13:22:10+00:00

In addition
dunno why, map page doesn't give variant to dl without video (i'm late orz)
...about stacks, mentioned by Sakura - they are fine for me.

Insane
01:29:493 (1) - 1/8 here
Hard
01:29:493 (1) - 1/6 here for the same. guys pls, someone is wrong.

A bit more for Hard
03:15:209 (1) - finish spinner 1/1 later, as in other diffs?
Hard has many 1/4 moments, would be great to reduce quantity of 1/4 for consistancy with other diffs (ofc if it's possible)

Normal
I personally have nothing against 1/2 stacks (mentioned by Sakura), but i don't like mixing stacks in easiest diffs, as example 1/1 stacks together with 1/2. so, i'd choose stacks for 1/2 and regular spacing for 1/1. anyway, just my vision and suggestion
02:49:424 (5,6) - expected 1/1 slider with reverse here
03:00:207 (2,3) - i'd move (3) 1/2 later, current 1/2 rhythm sounds strange for me http://puu.sh/cBBLV/37da110c1c.jpg

poke me l8r o/

narakucrimson

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narakucrimson 2014-11-05T13:17:25+00:00

Oh hi guys!

Sakura wrote:
Hiii naraku! Hii!

[Insane]
01:50:355 (7,8,9) - Try to make these 3 symmetrical with 01:49:300 (2,3,4,5) ? They are actually symmetrical to 01:46:604 (7,8,9) -
01:52:230 (11,12) - These would flow better if you move them to the top right corner Alright
01:54:574 (7,8) - Feels like you ran out of space here and the positioning of 8 feels awkward, you could try moving these to the bottom left corner to have more space 01:53:871 (4,5,6) Nah, this is intentional and I don't feel it neither forced nor awkward at all ^^
02:04:653 (4,5,6,7,8) - The position of 8 looks awkward here, what were you going for? First, it is aligned with 02:04:653 (4,7) - . Second, I wanted to create a nice progressive jump pattern. It doesn't feel awkward imo.

[Normal]
00:44:253 (6,7) - Is this stack really necessary. Well the basic idea was to create a little pause before the chorus started. I think the effect itself is really cool, but maybe it isn't really needed. Removed and reworked the pattern.
02:55:050 (1,2) - I disagree with 1/2 stacks like these on the lowest diff of the set. I now use sliders instead of the two circle stacks. Didn't change the ones that were a circle-slider stack.

Good Luck! Thanks!

And also...

Aleks719 wrote:
In addition
dunno why, map page doesn't give variant to dl without video (i'm late orz) wut let's see if the update fixes that!
...about stacks, mentioned by Sakura - they are fine for me.

Insane
01:29:493 (1) - 1/8 here
Hard
01:29:493 (1) - 1/6 here for the same. guys pls, someone is wrong. Lol changed this one.

Normal
I personally have nothing against 1/2 stacks (mentioned by Sakura), but i don't like mixing stacks in easiest diffs, as example 1/1 stacks together with 1/2. so, i'd choose stacks for 1/2 and regular spacing for 1/1. anyway, just my vision and suggestion
02:49:424 (5,6) - expected 1/1 slider with reverse here The idea was to include a little follow-up to Christina's voice here. Don't think it's that wrong.
03:00:207 (2,3) - i'd move (3) 1/2 later, current 1/2 rhythm sounds strange for me http://puu.sh/cBBLV/37da110c1c.jpg Again, this is all to emphasize Christina's voice. I think it's a very relevant elemet of the song in this particular part. Let me know if that doesn't convince you!

poke me l8r o/ I'll tell you when the gurls answer to the mod

Thanks a lot!

quiz-chan_DELETED

quiz-chan_DELETED 2014-11-05T14:30:37+00:00

Naraku, it's 1/6, I listened extremely closely.

Avena

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Avena 2014-11-05T19:22:56+00:00

ffs naraku it's 1/6

Reiji-RJ

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Reiji-RJ 2014-11-05T19:26:58+00:00

Sakura wrote:
[Hard]
00:37:455 (5,1) - Uh, for starters i dont think these should be stacked, but if you keep it then: I like this stacks~

Stack properly pls u.u
01:40:744 (3,4,5) - This looks kinda meh, would be better if you formed a triangle or something. Lizzy!
01:59:028 (1) - Eh i think you should remove this spinner, it's pretty short + post-spinner notes are quite close anyway. Removed
02:45:205 (1,1) - Sorry but these are too close, you'd need at least 1 full measure between spinner end and the post-spinner note on Hard. Made 1/1
02:59:738 (4,1) - I would expect some of your unique slider stacking here, but seems like it's different on this one, any specific reason? cause I do these stacks on sliders very rarely
03:15:209 (1) - Use finish instead of whistle? Lizzy? D:

Thank you!

Aleks719 wrote:
A bit more for Hard
03:15:209 (1) - finish spinner 1/1 later, as in other diffs?
Hard has many 1/4 moments, would be great to reduce quantity of 1/4 for consistancy with other diffs (ofc if it's possible) Fixed some 1/4

Спасибо!

http://puu.sh/cEyuf/0eb012cbe6.osu

BTW for Naraku:

Insane

00:44:018 (3,4,5) - 1/6 here (but 1/4 plays good for me anyway, just letting you know if you want to fix it :3)

Last edited by Reiji-RJ 2014-11-05T19:32:33+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Reiji-RJ

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Reiji-RJ 2014-11-05T19:31:12+00:00

Omg double post, sorry ;w;

Secretpipe

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Secretpipe 2014-11-05T19:45:54+00:00

Cool map

narakucrimson

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Topic Starter

narakucrimson 2014-11-06T02:01:48+00:00

Thanks Secretpipe!

Also yeah you might be right about the 1/6ths.

Updated!

quiz-chan_DELETED

quiz-chan_DELETED 2014-11-06T14:52:49+00:00

Sakura wrote:
02:45:205 (1,1) - Sorry but these are too close, you'd need at least 1 full measure between spinner end and the post-spinner note on Hard.

Show me where it says so in the guidelines/ranking criteria.

Sakura wrote:
01:40:744 (3,4,5) - This looks kinda meh, would be better if you formed a triangle or something.

Well I could think about it, I spaced the circles before (4,5) so hugely because singer's pitch reaches a peak. (4,5) are evenly spaced, also towards following (1), because pitch stays the same on (4,5). Anyway, could change this in the future.

Sakura wrote:
03:15:209 (1) - Use finish instead of whistle?

Nope, because a finish emphasizes the end of drumset too much. A whistle is much more delicate.

Aleks719 wrote:
03:15:209 (1) - finish spinner 1/1 later, as in other diffs?

I didn't do that because there's no actual beat on where the other diffs stop. The way I stopped is made more closely to the last drum hit.

I sound picky, yes I do. But for a reason..... sorry guys for lack of fixes!

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112,56,176925,2,0,B|96:108|96:108|116:160,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
120,268,177394,1,0,0:0:0:0:
220,256,177629,2,0,B|236:204|236:204|216:152,1,107.999996704102,2|8,0:0|0:2,0:0:0:0:
324,132,178097,1,2,0:0:0:0:
324,132,178332,6,2,L|432:128,1,107.999996704102,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
472,228,178801,2,2,P|488:280|472:332,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
376,284,179269,2,2,L|268:288,1,107.999996704102,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
232,188,179738,2,2,P|216:136|232:84,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:2|0:0,0:0:0:0:
230,86,180207,6,2,L|64:80,1,161.999995056153,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
56,92,180676,1,8,0:2:0:0:
24,196,180910,1,2,0:3:0:0:
44,304,181145,1,0,0:0:0:0:
152,284,181379,1,2,0:3:0:0:
132,176,181613,1,8,0:2:0:0:
24,196,181848,1,2,0:0:0:0:
152,284,182082,5,4,0:0:0:0:
260,264,182317,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,344,182551,1,8,0:0:0:0:
437,318,182786,2,2,P|469:266|473:210,1,107.999996704102,2|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
394,130,183254,1,2,0:0:0:0:
274,147,183489,2,0,P|242:199|238:255,2,107.999996704102,8|2|0,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,64,184192,2,2,B|156:56|76:52|120:152|24:152|-12:132,2,215.999993408203,2|2|4,0:0|0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
296,104,185364,1,8,0:0:0:0:
404,76,185598,1,2,2:0:0:0:
357,173,185833,6,0,B|365:273|365:273|401:333,1,161.999995056153,4|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
387,337,186302,1,8,0:0:0:0:
256,316,186536,2,2,L|132:324,1,107.999996704102,2|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
76,240,187005,1,2,0:0:0:0:
128,144,187239,2,0,P|164:156|240:148,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
188,52,187708,1,0,0:0:0:0:
237,155,187942,2,2,B|208:181|196:280|268:233|260:337|220:361,2,215.999993408203
332,116,189114,2,2,P|340:172|304:232,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
440,264,189583,6,2,P|468:184|460:96,1,161.999995056153,6|0,0:0|2:0,0:0:0:0:
448,76,190052,1,8,0:0:0:0:
342,134,190286,2,2,L|225:139,1,107.999996704102,2|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
178,230,190755,1,2,0:0:0:0:
219,129,190990,2,0,P|228:78|211:20,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
69,103,191458,2,2,P|57:162|84:263,1,161.999995056153,6|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
72,268,191927,2,0,L|185:261,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
284,296,192396,1,0,3:0:0:0:
384,252,192630,2,0,P|392:196|378:144,2,107.999996704102,2|8|2,1:1|1:1|1:1,0:0:0:0:
224,328,193334,6,2,P|211:275|219:222,1,107.999996704102,4|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
300,68,193803,2,2,P|312:120|304:173,1,107.999996704102,8|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
116,136,194271,2,2,P|168:123|221:131,1,107.999996704102,2|2,0:0|0:3,0:0:0:0:
396,248,194740,2,0,P|343:260|290:252,1,107.999996704102,10|0,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,195209,12,2,196615,2:0:0:0:

did change one awkward pattern tho

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narakucrimson 2014-11-07T12:04:03+00:00

Updated

Last edited by narakucrimson 2014-11-12T02:39:29+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

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D33d 2014-11-10T18:43:19+00:00

Sorry for going AWOL. I'm going to do what I can to help this set, so I'll check my parts and see what you've changed.

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Sakura 2014-11-12T01:43:02+00:00

Lizzy wrote:
Sakura wrote:
02:45:205 (1,1) - Sorry but these are too close, you'd need at least 1 full measure between spinner end and the post-spinner note on Hard.
Show me where it says so in the guidelines/ranking criteria.

p/3359472

Garven wrote:
Using these settings as criteria:

BPM 160

Easy: 1 full measure of recovery time -> 1500 ms
Normal: 2 beats recovery time -> 750 ms
Hard: 1 beat recovery time -> 375 ms
Insane or higher: Any (within musical reason)

Having a hardline is unreasonable due to varying BPM however, so having a little leeway is fine, but this as a guideline should give sufficient recovery time for players of the respective difficulty levels.

Actually i said 1 full measure, but i meant 1 beat, heh.

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narakucrimson 2014-11-12T02:39:04+00:00

Yeah, as I told you via private:

Garven told me that the rule is very adamant about hitobjects. He said that spinners shouldn't be a problem, as in having a separation of 1/2 beat between spinners is ok.

You can check that with him anyway, but I believe that solves it

Naraku out!

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Garven 2014-11-12T03:02:20+00:00

The issue about post-spinner objects is for resetting the cursor to aim at your next target. Spinners don't need that.

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quiz-chan_DELETED 2014-11-12T20:02:48+00:00

like I had a choice.... hrrr

http://puu.sh/cO5V5/17e828ea1e.osu

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narakucrimson 2014-11-13T02:36:02+00:00

Okay it's updated again. COuld we get that bubble going pleeeeeease?

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Sakura 2014-11-13T17:24:53+00:00

Before i remod this recheck the metadata, because i believe it goes more like this recently qualified map: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/156371
(Also this means that it can't get qualified anyway until that map is out of qualified)

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quiz-chan_DELETED 2014-11-13T20:46:13+00:00

we went through this a million times.... you know, mancuso naraku and so on

really now?

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narakucrimson 2014-11-13T22:59:57+00:00

Yeah, read the thread Sakura xD

We've already discussed this and reached a conscensus, the metadata is correct as is.

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Sakura 2014-11-14T02:07:55+00:00

Yeah but then doesnt that mean the other one needs to be DQ'd?

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narakucrimson 2014-11-14T02:25:11+00:00

Yes it does, strictly speaking

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Sakura 2014-11-14T02:36:13+00:00

I posted there, i'll wait for a reply from a QAT if the QAT says theirs is wrong and yours is correct then i'll proceed to recheck this, if they agree theirs is correct then i'll have to ask you to change it before a bubble.

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TicClick 2014-11-14T07:38:22+00:00

Hey there! I'll just quote what I wrote in the other thread (https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/3497820):

TicClick wrote:
well, I guess "Maroon 5 - Moves Like Jagger ft. Christina Aguilera" is the closest to official metadata. Please fix and call me!
P.S. The change is discussed with Sakura & Aleks719.

P.P.S. It's also based on Lanturn's post, which is just a ~~cli~~ post away from mine. You can't count audio CD booklets as official sources, since they are sometimes changed in favor of better look.

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narakucrimson 2014-11-14T12:27:36+00:00

Okay I'll change it, I DON'T WANT TO READ NOT EVEN ONE MORE COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TITLE

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quiz-chan_DELETED 2014-11-14T14:53:40+00:00

narakucrimson wrote:
Okay I'll change it, I DON'T WANT TO READ NOT EVEN ONE MORE COMPLAINT ABOUT THE TITLE

lol me neither!

ok can we get this going now ples?

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Sakura 2014-11-19T04:14:56+00:00

Solo dejare esto tambien con relacion al boton de no video

Bubbled!

Next BAT: Take in mind that there's another qualified version of this song, please wait before ranking until https://osu.ppy.sh/s/156371 is out of qualify.

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quiz-chan_DELETED 2014-11-19T08:36:22+00:00

yaaay <3

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Akiyama Mizuki 2014-11-19T09:15:11+00:00

Yes yes, one of the best map of 2014 is finally getting rolling <3

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narakucrimson 2014-11-19T12:04:37+00:00

Finally, after a year of waiting ;-;

Thanks!

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AutoMedic 2014-11-19T12:06:32+00:00

bro dood guy

map is good, overall

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narakucrimson 2014-11-19T15:39:12+00:00

Popped due to the controversial 1/8 // 1/6 slider. Decided on 1/8 and fixed.

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Sakura 2014-11-19T15:41:19+00:00

narakucrimson wrote:
Popped due to the controversial 1/8 // 1/6 slider. Decided on 1/8 and fixed.

Rebubbled

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Myxo 2014-11-19T16:41:20+00:00

Popping over the issue marked in bold.

[Normal]

00:44:721 - Consider adding a circle here or fix the spacing of the 2/1-gap. At the moment it is too small and it might cause readability problems, imo your easiest diff must be as simple as possible.

[Hard]

03:17:084 - Adding a circle here would be nice, preferably into the middle of the playfield. It'd make the map end at the same spot like the other difficulties. Also, atm it seems weird that kiai ends after the map.

[Insane]

00:44:018 (3,4,5) - This was 1/4 before you updated which was not correct ;w;
02:37:704 (1,2,3) - The triplet feels wrong to me at this place.. It's (from what I recognized) the only triplet that starts on white, so it's not really intuitive, and at 02:38:290 I can't hear a sound. I'd recommend a rhythm like this http://puu.sh/cXeGc/fb3ce26585.jpg - It fits the vocals perfectly and would be consistent with 02:40:048 (8,9,10) -

(Almost) flawless

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narakucrimson 2014-11-19T17:00:16+00:00

Changes discussed via irc, updated!

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Myxo 2014-11-21T10:53:43+00:00

After asking around for some more opinions, from both QATs and BATs, we came to the conclusion that the two low spacings in Normal need to go, or atleast we highly recommend you to remove them. The gaps are not big enough so the spacing doesn't matter, because the second object is already visible during the first object.

00:44:253 (6,1) - Possible solution would be to Ctl+G 00:43:315 (4,5,6) -
01:58:324 (3,1) - As a suggestion, maybe you could switch the positions of 02:00:200 (1) and 02:02:075 (3) - ?

Call me afterwards.

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narakucrimson 2014-11-21T15:35:37+00:00

Both fixed, also:

Changed the video offset so that it actually fits the song. (-760 ms)
Rearranged 01:04:880 (2,3,4,5,6) - .

Updated and ready to go

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Myxo 2014-11-21T16:15:58+00:00

Rebubbled! Awesome mapset

Rebubbled (ﾉ 'ω')ﾉ

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narakucrimson 2014-11-21T16:24:06+00:00

Thaaaaaank you man!

Also next BAT, remember not to rank until Gero's version moves out of Qualified!

Kodora

Kodora 2014-11-24T11:14:06+00:00

Does this map should have same BPM as Gero's version, or Gero's one have wrong timing?

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narakucrimson 2014-11-24T23:33:09+00:00

This was already discussed, both BPMs work. Obviously one is correct, but the difference is minimal.

So it was decided not to change any BPM. I personally believe this one is better though.

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Xgor 2014-11-25T23:26:05+00:00

For some reason without video option doesn't show up on this mapset even if it does have a video

Also this is not that big but all the credit images has unnecessary transparency that could be cropped.

Anyways. Sexy mapset. hope it get's re-qualified soon.

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narakucrimson 2014-11-26T00:41:53+00:00

*Hint* the map hasn't been qualified yet, so it doesn't need to get re-qualified

Also, according to some people, the video thing will get fixed when it's qualified (I sincerely hope so)

Thanks!

Shohei Ohtani

Shohei Ohtani 2014-11-26T01:17:31+00:00

Just gonna go ahead and confirm the video thing.

https://osu.ppy.sh/s/53833

This map got delayed from being ranked for a while because of it and then someone was like "fuck it" and ranked it, and it just appeared.

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Lust 2014-11-26T23:46:48+00:00

Yeah I can vouch that it should appear after its been qualified.

Its happened to me twice, currently occurring to my most recent bubbled beatmap: https://osu.ppy.sh/s/176702

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narakucrimson 2014-11-28T01:21:17+00:00

Excellent, so it's confirmed then!

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Sakura 2014-11-28T02:18:41+00:00

The other map got moved to ranked now, so this can be qualified now.

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quiz-chan_DELETED 2014-12-06T11:44:55+00:00

this is not gonna grave, is it?

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Sakura 2014-12-06T16:05:04+00:00

Lizzy wrote:
this is not gonna grave, is it?

Bubbled maps never grave

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Lust 2014-12-08T01:01:46+00:00

log

19:22 narakucrimson: k!
19:22 narakucrimson: are you available?
19:22 Lust: yes i am! :>
19:22 Lust: lets get this done
19:22 Lust: np the map
19:22 narakucrimson: coll ^^
19:22 narakucrimson: cool*
19:23 *narakucrimson is listening to [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/339289 Maroon 5 - Moves Like Jagger ft. Christina Aguilera]
19:28 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/339289 Maroon 5 - Moves Like Jagger ft. Christina Aguilera [Insane]]
19:28 Lust: alright a few comments
19:28 Lust: nothing major
19:30 Lust: 02:00:551 (2,3) - these 1/4 spaced circles are a bit confusing, especially in the last kiai section you had them stacked
19:30 narakucrimson: sure
19:30 Lust: i was a bit taken aback by them, and i feel that if you stacked these like you did in the last kiai section for THIS kiai section the playability will be much more smooth and clear
19:30 Lust: you can leave them in the last kiai though, since that is more of a climax and such patterns can fit
19:30 Lust: (plus for consistency sake it would be nicer imo)
19:32 Lust: 01:31:133 (3,4,5) - these could also benefit from lower spacing too tbh
19:32 narakucrimson: I don't know, I'll explain the reasoning behind these if you'd like to hear it
19:32 Lust: i can probably already guess your reason behind them
19:32 Lust: but please, i'd like to hear
19:33 narakucrimson: you probably noticed how the whole difficulty progresses in, well, difficulty
19:33 Lust: god christina aguilera is so hot in this 
19:33 Lust: yes i am aware
19:33 narakucrimson: the first kiai sets a bar for the following sections
19:33 narakucrimson: bigger spacing, overall faster flow
19:33 Lust: thats why i mentioned earlier that the last kiai section is a climax of the sorts
19:33 narakucrimson: indeed
19:34 narakucrimson: now, if you check the first kiai, the second half starts with a bigger multiplier
19:34 narakucrimson: it's like a "boost" in the pace
19:34 narakucrimson: I wanted to create the same effect in the second kiai, but without an even bigger multiplier
19:34 Lust: however when you take into account that the section starting 01:45:198 (1) - here and 02:00:200 (1) - here are right after eachother, having a progressing difficulty in the form of those spaced doubles make it increasingly confusing, i can see you manipulated spacing in various other patterns which work great
19:35 narakucrimson: I believe it works well, let me play it though
19:35 Lust: i just think that having them stacked to maintain consistency will allow for more smoother play, and at least it will avoid frustrations by those who made it this far into the map
19:36 narakucrimson: hmm
19:36 Lust: because having something this drastic is a bit of a fast curveball imo, i know i was definitely surprised by it
19:36 narakucrimson: yes I'm of course considering your experience
19:36 Lust: anyway this is just a suggestion, its up to you
19:37 Lust: its nothing particularly gamebreaking
19:37 narakucrimson: apart from taking away the effect I wanted to create, you also have the fact that I'd have to rework the pattern which will take me a while
19:37 narakucrimson: I don't know, if it comes to this in the end, I'd say I still like how it plays
19:37 Lust: zz this is the problem with people who map with a rigid structure like you and d33d xD
19:37 narakucrimson: it's not that I want to turn you down :C
19:37 Lust: meh its fine i guess
19:38 narakucrimson: oh I'm mapping something new, really different :P
19:38 *narakucrimson is listening to Eminem - The Monster ft. Rihanna
19:38 Lust: i wonder how one can even map that song o.o so slow
19:39 Lust: anyway 01:31:133 (3,4,5) - i highly recommend you at least change these, in your difficulty progression scheme it would make more sense to have those spaced doubles in this 01:45:198 (1) - kiai section as well
19:39 Lust: but since you skipped them and left them for the more quieter section seems a bit odd
19:40 narakucrimson: I can show you later :P
19:41 narakucrimson: what would you recommend?
19:42 Lust: maybe having a 1/4 slider in the place of the first two circle would be appropriate, considering the slider leniency will at least make the play a bit easier
19:43 Lust: it'll also allow you to keep the rhythm you have going
19:47 narakucrimson: damn I can't capture an area with puush
19:47 narakucrimson: please tell me if anything else is wrong, I'll update everything
19:47 Lust: that should be it for the insane, checking out the hard atm
19:49 narakucrimson: okay
19:49 narakucrimson: also christina 100/100 would fuck
19:49 Lust: no kidding :P
19:49 narakucrimson: yeahh
19:55 narakucrimson: hey also, I can send you the eminem song if you wanna see how it can be possible xD
19:55 Lust: i'll have a look at it later if you don't mind, i have another person who has been waiting for me to look at his map too ;w;
19:55 narakucrimson: sure!
19:56 narakucrimson: I need to mess around with the combo colours anyway
19:56 *Lust is editing [http://osu.ppy.sh/b/487110 Maroon 5 - Moves Like Jagger ft. Christina Aguilera [Normal]]
19:56 Lust: 00:34:876 (2,3) - this seems a bit too big of a spacing to be in the lowest diff
19:56 Lust: at least keep it consistent 0.8x like everywhere else
19:56 Lust: i understand you are starting to build up at that point but
19:57 Lust: this comes straight out of left field lol
19:57 narakucrimson: we discussed this with sakura already
19:57 narakucrimson: I don't remember what was the thing but we determined it was fine
19:57 narakucrimson: it isn't *that* hard to read
19:57 narakucrimson: also, for the sake of the pattern
19:58 Lust: 00:31:126 (2,3) - yeah wait wtf is this
19:58 Lust: arent they the same patterns
19:58 Lust: oh now i see whats up
19:58 Lust: nevermind
19:58 narakucrimson: xD
19:58 Lust: 00:33:939 (1,2) - the pause right here 
19:58 *Lust facepalms
19:58 narakucrimson: the blanket
19:59 narakucrimson: hahaha
19:59 Lust: should be fine i guess
20:00 Lust: im not really a fan of how you use symmetry in some parts so that the spacing is a bit inconsisteny but
20:00 narakucrimson: wtf UoL beat TSM wtfff
20:00 Lust: i guess itll be fine

Post back on the thread when you are ready.

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narakucrimson 2014-12-08T01:06:51+00:00

Alright, it's updated! Hope this is the last time hehehe

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Lust 2014-12-08T02:50:30+00:00

Take my by the tongue and I'll know you
Kiss me 'til you're drunk and I'll show you

All the Moves Like Jagger

I've got them Moves Like Jagger
I've got them MoooOOOoooOOooves Like Jagger

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narakucrimson 2014-12-08T02:54:14+00:00

Final-fucking-llyyyyyyyyyy yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Thank you thank you thank you thank you!

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CSLM 2014-12-08T03:53:49+00:00

gratz~ naraku
i've got them mooooooooooove like jagger~