Avril Lavigne - Hello Heartache · forum

Avena

2,158 posts

Joined December 2012

Avena 2014-05-11T12:28:36+00:00

Hello Buttache

General

Preview Point feels a bit strange, Maybe move it to 00:44:823 - or 00:55:857 - ?
The settings gap between Normal and Hard is really big, consider making the settings a bit higher on Normal.
All Diffs: 03:41:490 (1) - Shouldn't this end on 03:44:478 - To match the vocal?

Zero's Insane

00:08:961 (1) - Maybe end this at 00:11:375 - And put a note at 00:11:719 - ?
00:33:788 (1) - Add a normal finish ontop of the soft hit to emphasise the vooshing sound?
01:05:398 (1,2) - For the sake of consistency with the rest of the diff, move the combo onto the slider?
01:08:271 (4,1) - Switch combo placement between these two?
01:39:995 (1) - Add a normal finish ontop of the soft hit on the head to emphasise the vooshing sound?
02:51:605 (9,1) - This stream jump is a bit confusing when placing, maybe just regularly space these?
02:59:651 (3,2) - I find this this overlap to be kinda unappealing, maybe redo the pattern a bit by rotating some of the sliders so you can avoid this?
03:03:444 (3,1) - ^
03:34:478 (1,2) - Blanket is a bit off, Ctrl + G 03:34:823 (2) - To be able to perfect it with the approach circle.
03:38:961 (3,4) - Blanket these? Seems a bit odd at the moment.

Really fun diff, good job.

Hard

00:24:823 (7,1) - Due to the overlap, it's really hard to read the proper timing gap between these. Maybe just relocate the circle so it's easier to read?
00:33:788 (7) - Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound?
01:03:099 (3) - Maybe move this a bit so it looks like it's properly distanced from 01:02:064 (1) - ? This is purely visual but can look cool, Here is an example (Code is for the whole combo)
SPOILER
```
245,122,62064,6,0,P|230:158|230:198,1,80
340,184,62754,1,2,0:0:0:0:
417,103,63099,2,0,P|384:81|345:73,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
253,257,63788,2,0,P|281:284|319:297,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
```
01:39:995 (8) - Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound?
02:02:064 (5,1) - Maybe move the new combo to the circle to emphasise the finish better?
02:46:202 (1) - On head, Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound?

Normal

00:33:788 (3) - Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound?
00:55:513 (4) - Gameplay wise, this doesn't make sense. A cymbal crash should be a powerful thing you hit that should be high on emphasis, but instead you used a slider end which is a pretty weak thing when it comes to emphasis, Consider changing that so there's a circle/slider start on the crash.
01:06:892 (1) - Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound?
01:12:409 (1,2) - Stacks in a Normal are usually acceptable, but they become really confusing when a portion of the approach circle is cut by the edge of the screen, making them harder to read. Maybe just space these properly so it's not as odd to play?
01:39:995 (2) - Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound?
02:01:720 (5) - Gameplay wise, this doesn't make sense. A cymbal crash should be a powerful thing you hit that should be high on emphasis, but instead you used a slider end which is a pretty weak thing when it comes to emphasis, Consider changing that so there's a circle/slider start on the crash.
02:07:582 (4,1) - Switch combo locations to emphasise the finish better?
02:46:202 (1) - On head, Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound?
03:07:927 (5) - Same issue with the emphasis as stated previously.
03:19:306 (1) - Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound?
03:24:823 (1,2) - Stacks in a Normal are usually acceptable, but they become really confusing when a portion of the approach circle is cut by the edge of the screen, making them harder to read. Maybe just space these properly so it's not as odd to play?
03:30:340 (1) - Add a soft finish?

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-05-11T14:38:01+00:00

Priti wrote:
Hello Buttache Hello priti kiti!

General
Preview Point feels a bit strange, Maybe move it to 00:44:823 - or 00:55:857 - ? hmh, okay, moved
The settings gap between Normal and Hard is really big, consider making the settings a bit higher on Normal.
I'll think about it. I want the Normal diff to be enjoyable for as many players as possible and since I don't want to add an Easy the settings are rather low. If it's too easy for standard Normal players they can enable HR. (that's enough, imo. xb) but since there is an Insane now, I might lower Hard settings instead.. I'll see. '^'
All Diffs: 03:41:490 (1) - Shouldn't this end on 03:44:478 - To match the vocal? matches better with them as it is, imo, cause it ends at the same time as the vocals
Hard
00:24:823 (7,1) - Due to the overlap, it's really hard to read the proper timing gap between these. Maybe just relocate the circle so it's easier to read? okay
00:33:788 (7) - Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound?
added soft-hitfinish for now as I have to figure out how to add normal to soft sampleset. xD
01:03:099 (3) - Maybe move this a bit so it looks like it's properly distanced from 01:02:064 (1) - ? This is purely visual but can look cool, Here is an example (Code is for the whole combo)
SPOILER
245,122,62064,6,0,P|230:158|230:198,1,80
340,184,62754,1,2,0:0:0:0:
417,103,63099,2,0,P|384:81|345:73,1,80,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
253,257,63788,2,0,P|281:284|319:297,1,80,0|2,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
ah, true. changed
01:39:995 (8) - Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound? okay, same as above tho
02:02:064 (5,1) - Maybe move the new combo to the circle to emphasise the finish better? okay
02:46:202 (1) - On head, Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound? same as above
Normal
00:33:788 (3) - Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound?
same about all of them as in Hard '^'
00:55:513 (4) - Gameplay wise, this doesn't make sense. A cymbal crash should be a powerful thing you hit that should be high on emphasis, but instead you used a slider end which is a pretty weak thing when it comes to emphasis, Consider changing that so there's a circle/slider start on the crash.
hmh, I'll think about it. I actually like how it works now
01:06:892 (1) - Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound?
01:12:409 (1,2) - Stacks in a Normal are usually acceptable, but they become really confusing when a portion of the approach circle is cut by the edge of the screen, making them harder to read. Maybe just space these properly so it's not as odd to play?
I want to keep the symmetry with the previous pattern, but moved them so it's not as off-screen
01:39:995 (2) - Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound?
02:01:720 (5) - Gameplay wise, this doesn't make sense. A cymbal crash should be a powerful thing you hit that should be high on emphasis, but instead you used a slider end which is a pretty weak thing when it comes to emphasis, Consider changing that so there's a circle/slider start on the crash.
same as above for now
02:07:582 (4,1) - Switch combo locations to emphasise the finish better? nah, I prefer to match NCing with vocals here
02:46:202 (1) - On head, Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound?
03:07:927 (5) - Same issue with the emphasis as stated previously. kepping it as it is for now
03:19:306 (1) - Add a normal-hitfinish ontop of the soft-hitnormal to emphasise the voosh sound?
03:24:823 (1,2) - Stacks in a Normal are usually acceptable, but they become really confusing when a portion of the approach circle is cut by the edge of the screen, making them harder to read. Maybe just space these properly so it's not as odd to play?
moved them instead
03:30:340 (1) - Add a soft finish? okay

thanks for modding! & updated. | waiting for Zero's update c:

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2014-05-11T14:55:25+00:00

Priti wrote:
Hello Buttache

Zero's Insane
00:08:961 (1) - Maybe end this at 00:11:375 - And put a note at 00:11:719 - ? dosen't sound like a good ending point to me
00:33:788 (1) - Add a normal finish ontop of the soft hit to emphasise the vooshing sound? vooshing sound lol, good describing, added, also for the similar ones
01:05:398 (1,2) - For the sake of consistency with the rest of the diff, move the combo onto the slider? nice catch
01:08:271 (4,1) - Switch combo placement between these two? hmm, I'd keep this as this is kinda a special case
01:39:995 (1) - Add a normal finish ontop of the soft hit on the head to emphasise the vooshing sound?
02:51:605 (9,1) - This stream jump is a bit confusing when placing, maybe just regularly space these? it plays good to me, and symmetrical lol, will see more opinions
02:59:651 (3,2) - I find this this overlap to be kinda unappealing, maybe redo the pattern a bit by rotating some of the sliders so you can avoid this? ok reworked a bit on these
03:03:444 (3,1) - ^
03:34:478 (1,2) - Blanket is a bit off, Ctrl + G 03:34:823 (2) - To be able to perfect it with the approach circle. ok too lazy
03:38:961 (3,4) - Blanket these? Seems a bit odd at the moment.
Really fun diff, good job.

thx for your mod

code

osu file format v12

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TitleUnicode:Hello Heartache
Artist:Avril Lavigne
ArtistUnicode:Avril Lavigne
Creator:Squirrel
Version:Zero's Insane
Source:
Tags:ramona hodges david softrock pop rock Zero__wind
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Squichu

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Squichu 2014-05-11T15:20:32+00:00

Zero__wind wrote:

code

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Tags:ramona hodges david softrock pop rock Zero__wind
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updated again. :3

Frostings

913 posts

Joined May 2013

Frostings 2014-05-11T17:34:48+00:00

hi for M4M~

[General]
03:44:478 - maybe spinner end here in all difficulties to follow vocals?

[zero's Insane]

hi zero o3o

00:22:409 (5,1,2) - although the BPM may be slow enough to distinguish these beats, I think you should move 00:22:409 (5,1) - closer together or 00:22:754 (1,2) - further away, because right now their relative distances are similar while being very different beats in the rhythm
I only suggest it here because it's easy to do
00:41:605 (3,4,5) - personal preference, I think you should rearrange so that 00:42:064 (5) - appears right in the middle before the spinner
maybe like this (not a big deal if you want to keep your stack)
SPOILER
01:19:306 (2,3,4) - also maybe a problem with this distance too
01:28:961 (1,2,3) - this is really hard to read. i think you should use larger distance here for better reading
02:11:375 (1,2,3) - also maybe rearrange to center the last note? I suggest it not only because of personal preference, but because it's really easy to do, and has a better effect than a randomly placed circle before a spinner
02:59:651 (3,1,2,3) - maybe like this for easy symmetry
SPOILER
03:17:237 (3,4) - mmmm I don't like being really picky but it kinda bothered me during testplay and I might as well point it out.... ><
the flow here is kinda weird... Let's say for example you ctrl+G the selection, then the hitcircle is off of the path of the slider
What I mean:

SPOILER

the same concept still holds true when you don't ctrl+G ; you expect the tail of the slider to follow the path from hitcircle -> head of slider, but yet it curves up weirdly

What I'm trying to get at... maybe try this:

SPOILER

yeah, most nazi thing ever >.>
03:17:926 (1,2,3) - distance
03:20:340 (4,1,2) - distance here is not as big of a deal, but maybe you can move 03:20:915 (2,3) - a few grids left to make sure
03:28:961 (1,2,3) - maybe also distance here..? I tried rotating 03:29:306 (2) - counterclockwise a little bit and moving it to 164, 284 so that 03:29:306 (2,1) - pseudo-stacks

[Hard]

00:18:501 (5,6) - looks weird don't you think? maybe rotate slider like this
SPOILER
01:12:409 (1) - finish
02:27:237 (6) - maybe remove whistle? you only seeem to put then on white ticks, but this is only case of red tick
02:47:582 (3) - whistle on head to follow your hitsound pattern
02:53:099 (3) - same here
03:22:754 (7) - clap on head?
03:24:823 (1) - finish on head?
03:28:271 (7) - clap on head?
03:41:375 (5) - NC to follow your NC pattern (like here 02:13:099 (1) - and here 01:06:892 (1) - )

[Normal]

00:34:478 (4,1,2,3,4) - i think you should rearrange a bit to get last hitcircle to appear in the middle before the spinner. better for layout in my opinion
00:44:823 (1) - move to 256, 192. no reason not to (distance snap is still maintained)
01:12:409 (1) - finish
01:19:306 (1) - clap on tail
01:24:823 (1) - ^
01:40:685 (3,1,2,3,4) - also rearrange to center the last hitcircle?
01:51:030 (1) - center
03:06:202 (1) - remove whistle from tail?
03:24:823 (1) - finish

sorry i got kinda tired at the end, maybe not all hitsounds were checked in Normal ;w;

hope it helps ~

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-05-11T17:53:05+00:00

Frostings wrote:
hi for M4M~ Hi! :3

[General]
03:44:478 - maybe spinner end here in all difficulties to follow vocals? changed since you're the 2nd to mention this. s:

[Hard]
00:18:501 (5,6) - looks weird don't you think? maybe rotate slider like this
SPOILER
fixed
01:12:409 (1) - finish okay
02:27:237 (6) - maybe remove whistle? you only seeem to put then on white ticks, but this is only case of red tick
ah, thanks. some of them always go unnoticed.. dunno why I added them in the first place
02:47:582 (3) - whistle on head to follow your hitsound pattern fixed
02:53:099 (3) - same here fixed
03:22:754 (7) - clap on head? kept this silent on purpose cause I wanted to emphasize the vocals.. they're a bit less audible now, buuut I guess it improves gameplay. so changed
03:24:823 (1) - finish on head? ^
03:28:271 (7) - clap on head? ^
03:41:375 (5) - NC to follow your NC pattern (like here 02:13:099 (1) - and here 01:06:892 (1) - ) oh, right. changed

[Normal]
00:34:478 (4,1,2,3,4) - i think you should rearrange a bit to get last hitcircle to appear in the middle before the spinner. better for layout in my opinion
nah, I'll keep it as it is. have a sligth aversion for anything in the center of the playfield directly before and after spinners.
00:44:823 (1) - move to 256, 192. no reason not to (distance snap is still maintained) I'll keep my pattern here of starting where I left of before the spinner. besides same reasoning as above. ><
01:12:409 (1) - finish okay
01:19:306 (1) - clap on tail ^
01:24:823 (1) - ^ ^
01:40:685 (3,1,2,3,4) - also rearrange to center the last hitcircle? nope, same reasoning as above, sorry
01:51:030 (1) - center ^
03:06:202 (1) - remove whistle from tail? wtf, how did that get there. T_T thanks! fixed
03:24:823 (1) - finishokay

sorry i got kinda tired at the end, maybe not all hitsounds were checked in Normal ;w;

hope it helps ~ It does, thanks a lot!

Thanks for your mod! :3 I'll hurry and get to your map. >w<
~~I'll edit this post with what I've changed once I have fixed the diffs.~~ updated..

Kibbleru

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5,846 posts

Joined August 2013

Kibbleru 2014-05-11T19:09:25+00:00

M4M from ur queue

[General]

Nothing o3o

[Zero's Insane]

haii zero!

00:12:754 (1,2,3) - consider making these jumps the same distance?
00:25:168 (6,1) - distance out the same as 00:24:133 (2,3) - ?
01:15:168 (1,2) - i think flow would be better if you did ctrl g o3o?
01:29:651 (1) - there isn't really anything in the music that would indicate an SV change Oo, i know there is the finish but i don't really think that's appropriate for an sv change?
01:45:513 (1,4) - This overlap really looks messy and may cause some readability issues due to how crowded it is
01:47:926 (6,1) - try this, i think it gives some better flow from (5)
SPOILER
02:48:961 (1) - consider ctrl g? i think it provides some better flow and interesting gameplay
03:13:444 (4,1) - make the spacing consistent with 03:12:409 (1,2) - ? (around 2.5)
03:16:547 (1,2,3,4) - make spacing consistent?
03:24:478 (4,1) - make the spacing here more like 03:18:961 (5,1) - to emphasis on the strong sound at (1)?
00:36:892 (2) - whistle on head?
01:43:099 (3) - soft whistle on head?
02:24:133 - the sliderslide sounds here don't sound good ;w;
03:41:375 (5) - missing a normal sampleset?

[Hard]

On a general note here, you may want to check where you're adding jumps, jumps are meant to be added in certain areas of emphasis so you may want to check that.

00:27:926 (7,2) - maybe stack (2)'s end with (7)?
00:34:478 - add note and drag slider back by 1/4 like you did here 00:39:995 (1,1) - ?
01:40:685 - ^
00:48:961 (2,3) - a weird place to put such a big jumps Oo since i don't feel there is any particular reason for (3) to be emphasized more
01:28:271 (7,1) - i think you can stack this better lol
01:32:409 (3,4,5,6) - the sudden decrease in DS doesn't make too much sense to me. since i don't hear a decrease in volume or emphasis
01:45:513 (7) - remove whistle, sound a bit strange >_<
01:53:789 (6,7,1) - for these jumps, see how (1) should sound more emphasized than the rest of the parts, however you have a bigger jump from (6) to (7) than (7) to (1) meaning you are emphasizing the sound on (7) greater, which does not make sense to the music.
02:40:685 (1) - not a good place for spinner (for obvious reasons)
03:05:168 (4) - place this closer to (2) for a better looking pattern?
SPOILER
03:30:340 (1) - finish on head?
03:35:856 (5) - i think this is a better place for NC instead of 03:36:547 (1) - since it's on the measure

[Normal]

00:15:857 (2) - make this slider 1/2 shorter? it makes more sense to end on the drum/clap
00:31:719 (4,5) - how bout make this a slider instead, it makes more sense for me since the (5) is not very audible and it would make sense for it to be expressed by a weak slider tail
00:55:513 (4,1,2) - this may be a confusing pattern for beginners since (4) is covering up (2)'s head
02:48:616 (4,1,2) - ^ same idea
01:06:892 (1,2) - this is arguable, however just for me, the antijump stacks are too hard for beginner players
01:12:409 (1,2) - ^
01:51:030 - pleez no copy pasterino
02:27:582 (1,1) - important, do consider this. it makes it very hard to read when you stack circles under sliders because the slider will cover up the circle and make it hard to read. this isn't much of a case in hard and insane but easy and normal it is NOT recommended
02:58:616 (3,5) - do u see the problem here lol? the (3) look like the head too and may be confusing
SPOILER

pretty solid mapset, good luck!

Squichu

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Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-05-11T20:51:48+00:00

Kibbleru wrote:
M4M from ur queue hi there! :3

[General]

Nothing o3o YAY! \:D/
[Hard]

On a general note here, you may want to check where you're adding jumps, jumps are meant to be added in certain areas of emphasis so you may want to check that.
Yah, I know that, but I think it's just a certain part of my style here to have these constant jumps.
I like how they play and go with the flow, while being easy to play, cause of low bpm and predictable movement.
00:27:926 (7,2) - maybe stack (2)'s end with (7)? nice idea
00:34:478 - add note and drag slider back by 1/4 like you did here 00:39:995 (1,1) - ? okay
01:40:685 - ^ okay
00:48:961 (2,3) - a weird place to put such a big jumps Oo since i don't feel there is any particular reason for (3) to be emphasized more
just followed the movement here, but changed it up
01:28:271 (7,1) - i think you can stack this better lol weren't supposed to be stacked (cause of different DS) but are now.
01:32:409 (3,4,5,6) - the sudden decrease in DS doesn't make too much sense to me. since i don't hear a decrease in volume or emphasis
3+4 follow the 'usual' jump pattern, while 5+6 aren't part of that, so I'll keep it. :3
01:45:513 (7) - remove whistle, sound a bit strange >_< it's the same as 00:39:306 (7) - tho? added finish for now, sounded so empty otherwise.
01:53:789 (6,7,1) - for these jumps, see how (1) should sound more emphasized than the rest of the parts, however you have a bigger jump from (6) to (7) than (7) to (1) meaning you are emphasizing the sound on (7) greater, which does not make sense to the music.
It follows the movement really nicely, tho, so I'll keep it for now
02:40:685 (1) - not a good place for spinner (for obvious reasons) I liked it, but replaced :c
03:05:168 (4) - place this closer to (2) for a better looking pattern? moved a bit
SPOILER
03:30:340 (1) - finish on head? sure
03:35:856 (5) - i think this is a better place for NC instead of 03:36:547 (1) - since it's on the measure prefer to follow vocals here since they're more dominant
[Normal]
00:15:857 (2) - make this slider 1/2 shorter? it makes more sense to end on the drum/clap
prefer to keep it as it is, cause of the beat at 00:16:892. I know I could put another circle, but it works better as it is atn, imo.
00:31:719 (4,5) - how bout make this a slider instead, it makes more sense for me since the (5) is not very audible and it would make sense for it to be expressed by a weak slider tail okay
00:55:513 (4,1,2) - this may be a confusing pattern for beginners since (4) is covering up (2)'s head
I tested this with several players and turned out to be readable c:
02:48:616 (4,1,2) - ^ same idea ^
01:06:892 (1,2) - this is arguable, however just for me, the antijump stacks are too hard for beginner players
some beginners panicked a bit whiel tesplaying, but since this is a Normal it's acceptable I think. It has to be fun for both at best.
01:12:409 (1,2) - ^ ^
01:51:030 - pleez no copy pasterino usually I don't like to copy-paste whole patterns, but as this is the easiest diff I thought it couldn't hurt to add some repetitive things so beginners find them easier to play. plus I changed some parts to avoid making it 100% the same, it's fine :b
02:27:582 (1,1) - important, do consider this. it makes it very hard to read when you stack circles under sliders because the slider will cover up the circle and make it hard to read. this isn't much of a case in hard and insane but easy and normal it is NOT recommended
lol, I can't believe I overlooks that. orz thanks! (I checked my diff for stacks at the end of sliders a while ago, cause I did it frequently, thought I changed all of them.. >__<
02:58:616 (3,5) - do u see the problem here lol? the (3) look like the head too and may be confusing
yah, but it's only in that moment. I think the movement makes it pretty clear where to move next, so I'll keep this for now. :3
SPOILER
pretty solid mapset, good luck!
Thaaanks!

Thanks for your mod! I'll get to your map as soon as I can. (most likely tomorrow or the day after.. hopefully. ><)
updated. | waiting for Zero's update

AnreFM

781 posts

Joined September 2012

AnreFM 2014-05-15T07:54:39+00:00

Yo Squirrel! ヾ(　´・∀・｀)ノ
Choosing random maps to mod and I found yours on your queue :3
As you may know I haven't mod in a really long time and it might get really sloppy orz
anyway

let's do this

If there's anything unclear here or if the links are messed up somewhere, please state so and I'll try my best to explain it better \o/

[General]

You should try to add a spin in the very beginning of the song, just like the one on Zero's Insane. It will build up a nice effect as the intro of the song and will make the playtime consistent for all diffs! :3

[Zero__wind's]

00:12:754 (1,2) - Seeing this kind of symmetry on the beginning of the map kinda gives an off feeling for me lol You see, I kinda thought that the rest of the map will be like this with all straight linear slider>< So yeah, I don't think using this pattern at the very beginning of the song would be really good(whilst using it on later point won't matter as much), so I suggest to make either one of these or both of them curved. Doing something small like this should do owo
here
```
348,100,13099,2,0,P|336:133|348:174,1,74.6666666666667,0|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
```
00:20:340 (2) - The sharp turn from 00:19:995 (1) - to these played a bit uncomfortable to me orz With the natural flow from the previous notes, these one is a bit harder to hit because of it ;w; I'd suggest to move this note to somewhere along the lines of 00:19:995 (1) -, if you want to build a pattern, having this stack with 00:20:685 (3) - 's tail will do good, as the note will flow circularly ovo
00:29:651 (1,2,3) - I find how these notes placed with a relatively close distance a bit weird with other notes imo. As example, the notes on 00:24:133 (2,3,4,5) - which also has the same vocal notes, are put with jumps on it, while 00:29:306 (1,2,3) - don't. So yeah, putting some distance on 00:29:651 (2) - will create a consistency between the notes that will be felt when playing; I'd suggest making it blanketing 00:28:616 (2) - hitburst should be good :3
00:38:616 (4,5) - Is the off blanketing on purpose? Cause 00:38:616 (4) - looked like it is between blanketing 00:38:961 (5) - or not orz If it isn't do fix it since it doesn't look really neat
00:42:064 (5) - A bit suggestion on the rhythm - Since the note starting from 00:41:605 (3) - is following the vocal, having 00:42:064 (5) - as a single circle doesn't really fit imo As the vocal is still stretched. Even with using a spin immediately after the circle, making it a slider will emphasize that the note is following the vocal(which is quite powerful at the moment). So yeah, you can try this rhythm http://puu.sh/8LW1y.jpg, or maybe even extend the slider to be longer :>
00:55:857 (1) - Ah I don't really think that this big jump fit as it is currently imo. You see, the jump does fit, but I think it will fit more if the jump is between 00:55:857 (1) - and 00:56:202 (2) - instead, where the vocal suddenly gets denser and the flow get a bit more complicated :< So yeah, moving this circle closer to 00:55:513 (5) - will make the jump to 00:56:202 (2) - felt more, you can try putting it to somewhere around x16/y80 ouo
01:09:651 (1,5,6) - hmm I personally feel that the rhythm would go like this instead of the current one imo http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/1605880. It just feels better to click at the stacked (6) and (1) rather than the current; your choice though :3
01:42:064 (5) - i really think that this will play a lot cooler if you use an antijump on this by stacking it on the end of the small stream on 01:41:719 (4) - imo. You see, as the vocal on this part suddenly stopped and gives an hanging feeling to the map, making player not moving the cursor will emphasize that effect better. Unlike on 01:47:582 (5) -, where the distance of (5) fit since the vocal still continue further, not stopping like 01:42:064 (5) -. So yeah, consider doing this as I think the pause on the movement played quite well and add more variety to the flow of the rhythm :3
02:04:708 (5,1) - ee I think the jump here is a bit too small for this part imo. You see, you put a quite big jump(which fits nicely) on similar part like this on the first kiai at 00:58:501 (5) -, that gives an holding effect on the slider which emphasize the vocal well. So yeah, why not do the same for this one too? ouo try moving it a bit to the right more ~
02:54:478 (1) - Since you put a soft-finish on 02:49:306 (2) -, I find that you didn't put another of it on this bridge part a bit weird imo, the finish seems a bit random :< So yeah, putting another sift-finish should do to make them feel more consistent; putting it on 02:54:478 (1) -'s tail should fit as this is practically the same time as the one on 02:49:306 (2) - :3 Though if you have other idea, it would be nice as long as you add it somewhere - otherwise the finish will feel off :>
03:10:915 (4,1) - Basically the same one as 02:04:708 (5,1) - where the jump is a bit too small orz Consider moving this a bit downward or somewhere distant from 03:10:340 (3) - to make a stretchy feeling to the vocal :3
03:41:490 (1) - Is the difference on the spin end between the diffs intended? If itsn't, remember to shorten it to 03:44:478 - so that the end point become consistent

[Hard]

I found that most of the placement of the notes are a bit off imo(i.e jumps doesn't feel right etc). So I will only point out some major ones for you; you should get my point after that and thus finding similar stuffs by yourself :3
00:27:811 (6,7) - These two really looked standout as they have a really close distance with 00:26:892 (5) - because you followed the DS. It's actually okay, but it kinda make the map pattern less neat and may confuse people with it's distance :< So yeah, you can try to make this one a jump, as it fits with the previous repeating slider :3 And also as a personal note, I prefer to switch these two circles with a slider instead, it plays better imo and you can make a blanket if you try like this
this
00:32:294 (3,1,2,3) - I guess 4 of these is the most noticeable jump that doesn't really fit imo :< The sudden jump didn't emphasize anything on the song, either the vocal nor the music. I'd recommend to make the jump smaller or just put away the jump; space them normally, or if you would like to keep the jump, changing these circles to 2 sliders will help much as holding a slider will be much easier than clicking twice on a jump :3 So yeah, doing either of these should be good~
00:51:719 (3) - This jump is a bit too big for these part lol I suggest to swap this note's place with 00:52:409 (5) - as it's closer to 00:51:375 (2) - and it will create a back-and-forth flow on the next notes :3
01:03:788 (4) - Instead of having a sudden pause(which doesn't quite fit), you can try to just extend this slider to 01:04:478 - so that it will follow the vocal instead. At least it's better than leaving this space blank as you don't have any pauses like this on another places owo
01:28:961 (1,1) - These two looked a bit too cramped. Instead of spacing normally, use a jump for 01:28:961 (1) - since it fits(change of rhythm of the song), and it will give more space between these notes; try somewhere around x366/y232
01:45:168 (6,7) - Are these 2 being straight on purpose? They don't really look good together and the flow is a bit too sharp. Try something like this instead
here
02:13:788 - hmm I don't think the drag to the break works well here. It doesn't really emphasize the start of the vocal, as the vocal started since 02:13:099 - , the last beat before the break starts. So yeah, I think the natural start of the break fits better than the current owo
02:43:329 - I'd suggest to add a circle here to match the rhythm you created at 02:35:857 (3,4) - where you used the purple line on the tail of (3) which creates a unique rhythm. It's good since it variates with the other 1/2 beat rhythm owo
02:32:409 (1) - The repeat here doesn't seem quite fit imo, considering how you did the previous similar part on 02:28:961 (3) - , which you use a jump to emphasize the stronger beat with a clap. It fits nicely and plays good, so why don't do this one similarly? :3 I'd suggest to change this repeat to a 1/2 slider + 1 circle, and then you can put the circle stacked with 02:34:133 (5) -, that will create a nice flow imo owo
02:47:237 (2,3) - These two would play cooler if they're stacked imo, just like 02:45:857 (5,1) -. As the vocal is practically has a same tone, stacking them will create a similar feeling for these two ovo
02:51:030 (8) - Just a suggestion, but a jump would be cool for this. As it has a clap on it and the next note has an antijump; this two would go well :3 You can put it somewhere around x204/y72, above the 02:51:719 (1) -
03:36:201 (6) - This jump doesn't feel right imo, it will be more fit if the jump were used for the next note instead at 03:36:547 (1) -, where the new combo as well as a new vocal line started. So yeah, just put (6) closer to (5) so that they spaced normally, that should form a jump to 03:36:547 (1) - ouo
I guess that's all the major things i found, the rest will only be stuffs to be neaten :3 Don't forget to check other places that I didn't mention that have a weird jump or anything else, you should've known which are them now! Anyway, the diff. is quite fun to play aside from the little stuffs I mentioned, so good job! owob

[Normal]

Wow the Normal is so much better compared to Hard! ovo I'll mention stuffs that can be improved here~
02:51:030 (3) - Eh the flow for this one isn't good imo As the tail of 02:49:651 (2) - 's slider doesn't connected directly to it, and thus making it plays a it uncomfortable(especially with hd hr dt lol). So yeah I'd suggest to move this one higher so that 02:49:651 (2) - will flow directly to 02:51:030 (3) - :3

02:26:547 (5,1) - hmm I think the shape can be improved here owo You can try making it like this

here

looks much cuter right :3

319,234,146547,2,0,P|341:206|351:173,2,70
259,293,147582,6,0,B|230:268|221:208|264:169|264:169|239:117|170:61,1,280,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:

03:07:927 (5) - Hmm the flow here isn't good too imo As (5)'s tail ended on the edge of the map and it needs a sharp turn to get to the next circle :< You can try making them curved like this http://puu.sh/8MWPe.jpg, I think the flow would improved there :3
03:40:685 (3) - As it is the last note of the map where the vocal died down, I think it would make more sense if you put the tail not bended to the left, but directly down instead like this http://puu.sh/8MZbf.jpg
00:37:237 (2,3) - ee I think the shape here could be improved imo Currently I think the direction it pointed is a bit random x_x Why don't you try to blanket (2)? That way the pattern could get neater :3
02:13:788 - As of Hard; about the pause :3
The rest should only be nazi stuffs that I won't mention(I'll just suggest too much lol) :3 The diff is pretty good with lots of nice patterns and overlaps, accompanied by a good flow; i really like it

So yeah, I guess this should be all for now, hope that helped!

And as you may already know, the Hard still needs improvement as it currently is, whilst the other diffs are good and pretty much ready :3
And also I personally thinks that the spread between Hard and Insane is a bit big as how the Hard currently stands(not a really fast SV and not enough jumps). But yeah It may be just my opinion, though consider adding more jumps to your hard for wherever fits! ouo
So yeah, if you need help or if you have any problem, don't hesitate to ask me for a recheck or an irc mod, I'll try my best to help you

Anyway, nice choice of song(Avril!<3), and it's pretty good for your first(real) map~ :3
Good luck with this!

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2014-05-15T10:40:10+00:00

Code!

[code][/code]osu file format v12

[General]
AudioFilename: hellow.mp3
AudioLeadIn: 0
PreviewTime: 56047
Countdown: 0
SampleSet: Soft
StackLeniency: 0.3
Mode: 0
LetterboxInBreaks: 1
WidescreenStoryboard: 1

[Editor]
DistanceSpacing: 0.8
BeatDivisor: 6
GridSize: 4
TimelineZoom: 1.2

[Metadata]
Title:Hello Heartache
TitleUnicode:Hello Heartache
Artist:Avril Lavigne
ArtistUnicode:Avril Lavigne
Creator:Squirrel
Version:Zero's Insane
Source:
Tags:ramona hodges david softrock pop rock Zero__wind
BeatmapID:420234
BeatmapSetID:133492

[Difficulty]
HPDrainRate:7
CircleSize:4
OverallDifficulty:7
ApproachRate:8
SliderMultiplier:2.24
SliderTickRate:2

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//Storyboard Sound Samples
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48,372,175053,1,4,0:3:0:0:
36,344,175168,2,2,P|38:288|54:234,1,112,2|4,0:3|0:3,0:0:0:0:
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108,239,191030,5,0,1:0:0:0:
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196,280,196892,1,2,3:0:0:0:
8,372,197237,1,8,0:0:0:0:
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64,232,200915,1,2,0:0:0:0:
36,244,201030,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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436,136,204363,1,0,1:0:0:0:
456,112,204478,2,0,P|468:76|492:48,1,74.6666666666667,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
424,4,204823,53,0,1:0:0:0:
264,148,205168,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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360,180,207926,1,0,1:0:0:0:
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28,144,208846,1,2,0:0:0:0:
40,172,208961,6,0,P|64:207|96:228,1,74.6666666666667,2|2,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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160,184,209880,1,0,1:0:0:0:
180,160,209995,2,0,P|192:120|188:88,1,74.6666666666667,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,280,210340,53,4,1:2:0:0:
368,376,210685,2,0,P|416:360|440:340,1,74.6666666666667,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
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200,332,221375,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,221490,12,0,224478,0:0:0:0:

Really busy these days! couldn't manage to reply all of these line by line, sorry /.\
Just don't put that much attention on the so called "consistent spacing", numbers are not "real" distance, but merely numbers. plz play it to see if something really feels bad instead of checking the numbers at the upright
@AnreFM: Pay more attention to the instruments, percussion instead of the vocal, and you'll have a better comprehention on some of my rhythm and spacing
thx for your mods! Frosting, kibbleru and AnreFM

Squichu

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Squichu 2014-05-16T15:23:06+00:00

AnreFM wrote:
Yo Squirrel! ヾ(　´・∀・｀)ノ Hi there! =^w^=
Choosing random maps to mod and I found yours on your queue :3
As you may know I haven't mod in a really long time and it might get really sloppy orz oh, dwdw! sloppy or not, it'll be helpful. >w<
anyway

[General]
You should try to add a spin in the very beginning of the song, just like the one on Zero's Insane. It will build up a nice effect as the intro of the song and will make the playtime consistent for all diffs! :3
true. definitely added the spinner in Hard, I'm not sure about that in Normal tho.. I wanna keep the three circles at the start, so I can't make the spinner the same length as in Zero's diff.. if I shorten it, it might get too short.. hmmh. >< added for now, but I might delete it again.
[Hard]
I found that most of the placement of the notes are a bit off imo(i.e jumps doesn't feel right etc). So I will only point out some major ones for you; you should get my point after that and thus finding similar stuffs by yourself :3
okay, I'll try!
00:27:811 (6,7) - These two really looked standout as they have a really close distance with 00:26:892 (5) - because you followed the DS. It's actually okay, but it kinda make the map pattern less neat and may confuse people with it's distance :< So yeah, you can try to make this one a jump, as it fits with the previous repeating slider :3 And also as a personal note, I prefer to switch these two circles with a slider instead, it plays better imo and you can make a blanket if you try like this
this
yup, went with this suggestion for now, I'm not 100% convinced that the slider feels better than 2 circles, tho.. I'll ask some people about that. :3
00:32:294 (3,1,2,3) - I guess 4 of these is the most noticeable jump that doesn't really fit imo :< The sudden jump didn't emphasize anything on the song, either the vocal nor the music. I'd recommend to make the jump smaller or just put away the jump; space them normally, or if you would like to keep the jump, changing these circles to 2 sliders will help much as holding a slider will be much easier than clicking twice on a jump :3 So yeah, doing either of these should be good~
imo, the jump works fine cause of the smooth movement. it's basically circular and I want to keep that. I had to stack the objects somewhere below 00:30:915 (5,1) - if I wanna keep DS, which makes thes pattern too hard to read, so I'll leave it as it is. also, I don't feel like sliders go with the music here well. yes, they are easier to play, but the double beats lose their emphasis if I have them on sliderends. :\
00:51:719 (3) - This jump is a bit too big for these part lol I suggest to swap this note's place with 00:52:409 (5) - as it's closer to 00:51:375 (2) - and it will create a back-and-forth flow on the next notes :3
oooh, right. changed!
01:03:788 (4) - Instead of having a sudden pause(which doesn't quite fit), you can try to just extend this slider to 01:04:478 - so that it will follow the vocal instead. At least it's better than leaving this space blank as you don't have any pauses like this on another places owo
changed, but a bit differently
01:28:961 (1,1) - These two looked a bit too cramped. Instead of spacing normally, use a jump for 01:28:961 (1) - since it fits(change of rhythm of the song), and it will give more space between these notes; try somewhere around x366/y232
uhm, that's where it's placed atm. but I get what you mean. xD
01:45:168 (6,7) - Are these 2 being straight on purpose? They don't really look good together and the flow is a bit too sharp. Try something like this instead
here
yup, they are. it's the counterpart to the first bridge where I use straight sliders first and curved ones after. it's vice versa here and I wanna keep that (as I think it looks good. :3 )
02:13:788 - hmm I don't think the drag to the break works well here. It doesn't really emphasize the start of the vocal, as the vocal started since 02:13:099 - , the last beat before the break starts. So yeah, I think the natural start of the break fits better than the current owo
okay, removed drag o,o
02:43:329 - I'd suggest to add a circle here to match the rhythm you created at 02:35:857 (3,4) - where you used the purple line on the tail of (3) which creates a unique rhythm. It's good since it variates with the other 1/2 beat rhythm owo
nice idea, replaced 4 with a slider till the purple tick tho, cause it fits better
02:32:409 (1) - The repeat here doesn't seem quite fit imo, considering how you did the previous similar part on 02:28:961 (3) - , which you use a jump to emphasize the stronger beat with a clap. It fits nicely and plays good, so why don't do this one similarly? :3 I'd suggest to change this repeat to a 1/2 slider + 1 circle, and then you can put the circle stacked with 02:34:133 (5) -, that will create a nice flow imo owo
hmh, I liked both but changed this part now. (differently >o<)
02:47:237 (2,3) - These two would play cooler if they're stacked imo, just like 02:45:857 (5,1) -. As the vocal is practically has a same tone, stacking them will create a similar feeling for these two ovo
nah, I wanted to have a different pattern for these, cause the focus should be on 1+2
02:51:030 (8) - Just a suggestion, but a jump would be cool for this. As it has a clap on it and the next note has an antijump; this two would go well :3 You can put it somewhere around x204/y72, above the 02:51:719 (1) -
changed, differently tho :3
03:36:201 (6) - This jump doesn't feel right imo, it will be more fit if the jump were used for the next note instead at 03:36:547 (1) -, where the new combo as well as a new vocal line started. So yeah, just put (6) closer to (5) so that they spaced normally, that should form a jump to 03:36:547 (1) - ouo
yupp, true. changed!
I guess that's all the major things i found, the rest will only be stuffs to be neaten :3 Don't forget to check other places that I didn't mention that have a weird jump or anything else, you should've known which are them now! Anyway, the diff. is quite fun to play aside from the little stuffs I mentioned, so good job! owob
Thank you! I'll chec the diff for other stuff once I have more time again.. T_T
[Normal]
Wow the Normal is so much better compared to Hard! ovo I'll mention stuffs that can be improved here~
02:51:030 (3) - Eh the flow for this one isn't good imo As the tail of 02:49:651 (2) - 's slider doesn't connected directly to it, and thus making it plays a it uncomfortable(especially with hd hr dt lol). So yeah I'd suggest to move this one higher so that 02:49:651 (2) - will flow directly to 02:51:030 (3) - :3
changed shape of the slider instead. :3
02:26:547 (5,1) - hmm I think the shape can be improved here owo You can try making it like this
here
looks much cuter right :3
319,234,146547,2,0,P|341:206|351:173,2,70
259,293,147582,6,0,B|230:268|221:208|264:169|264:169|239:117|170:61,1,280,8|8,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:  
prefer my shape here. D: cuz I don't like how the distance you have to move is shortened by this
03:07:927 (5) - Hmm the flow here isn't good too imo As (5)'s tail ended on the edge of the map and it needs a sharp turn to get to the next circle :< You can try making them curved like this http://puu.sh/8MWPe.jpg, I think the flow would improved there :3
yah, I get what you mean.. I actually liked that.. but I think I managed to merge both things.. ^__^
03:40:685 (3) - As it is the last note of the map where the vocal died down, I think it would make more sense if you put the tail not bended to the left, but directly down instead like this http://puu.sh/8MZbf.jpg
prefer the movement of my pattern here, keeping this. ><
00:37:237 (2,3) - ee I think the shape here could be improved imo Currently I think the direction it pointed is a bit random x_x Why don't you try to blanket (2)? That way the pattern could get neater :3
was totally random. xD changed
02:13:788 - As of Hard; about the pause :3 yup, changed
The rest should only be nazi stuffs that I won't mention(I'll just suggest too much lol) :3 The diff is pretty good with lots of nice patterns and overlaps, accompanied by a good flow; i really like it
makes me happy to hear that. QwQ
So yeah, I guess this should be all for now, hope that helped!
And as you may already know, the Hard still needs improvement as it currently is, whilst the other diffs are good and pretty much ready :3
And also I personally thinks that the spread between Hard and Insane is a bit big as how the Hard currently stands(not a really fast SV and not enough jumps). But yeah It may be just my opinion, though consider adding more jumps to your hard for wherever fits! ouo
So yeah, if you need help or if you have any problem, don't hesitate to ask me for a recheck or an irc mod, I'll try my best to help you
Thank you! Helped a lot.
I'm kinda confused tho.. cause some people tell me that Hard is too easy and some that it's too hard. Some say there are too much jumps and inconsistent spacing isn't well used there and some say I should use even more.. T__T''

Anyway, nice choice of song(Avril!<3), and it's pretty good for your first(real) map~ :3
Good luck with this!

Thank youu! :3 I'll fix the map later & reply in detail then as well. dun have the time right now -cries- T_T
also, gonna wait with Insane update as well til then. lazy me orz
I'm fixing the map step for step as I ahev to hurry to the supermarket now, fack I didn't look at time, damnnnnn. >___<

updated, finally. xD

kakifly

940 posts

Joined April 2014

kakifly 2014-05-29T19:08:50+00:00

hello~ m4m from #modreqs ;D (sorry my computer is having problems so ill be typing the mod out on mobile hope thats ok with you

modding hard

remove 00:39:972 and put the spinner on its spot
(make the spinner a tick longer so it ends on the white line

i think overall you really should fix alot of parts with distance snap, many notes are in a confusing placement

the circle at 01:06:892 should be removed and make the 4 slider before it longer
try keeping all notes within the grid

take out 01:40:685 , move the spinner to its spot and make the spinner longer by a tick, do the same with other places that have this same placement

also try and have a variation of slider speeds,

hope that helped ~ if you dont mind could you mod my map for m4m http://osu.ppy.sh/s/177064 ? thanks ^^

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-05-29T20:35:35+00:00

konoshin69 wrote:
hello~ m4m from #modreqs ;D (sorry my computer is having problems so ill be typing the mod out on mobile hope thats ok with you
sure, I don't mind at all! (:

modding hard

remove 00:39:972 and put the spinner on its spot
(make the spinner a tick longer so it ends on the white line
I wanna keep this as it is as it emphasizes the vocals really well. so I don't see a reason to remove this, except for making the diff easier, maybe.

i think overall you really should fix alot of parts with distance snap, many notes are in a confusing placement
I didn't put a single jump without thought and (imo) all of them work well and are easy to play. maybe I can change something if you specify which jumps you think don't fit the music?

the circle at 01:06:892 should be removed and make the 4 slider before it longer
Why remove it? It emphasizes the loud beat there.
try keeping all notes within the grid
I'm not sure what you mean with that? .o.
If you want me to use Grid Snap I have to refuse as it is less precise and makes some sliders look extremely ugly when I can't place them as I want to.

take out 01:40:685 , move the spinner to its spot and make the spinner longer by a tick, do the same with other places that have this same placement
keeping this for the same reason as above, sorry. >:

also try and have a variation of slider speeds,
I'm using different SV for the part starting with the break, I don't see any other part fit for different speed, tho.
If you have some suggestions, let me know!

hope that helped ~ if you dont mind could you mod my map for m4m http://osu.ppy.sh/s/177064 ? thanks ^^
didn't change anything, so I can't give kudos, sorry! :\ but thank you, anyway!
I'll take a look at your map later on ~

updated with some self-modding, tho. .o.

Yauxo

1,622 posts

Joined June 2011

Yauxo 2014-06-02T18:24:13+00:00

Hi there, coming from your request in my Modding Q
As requested, I'll go nazi on blankets

[General]

Do you really need 7 combo colours? D:
Warning: 99% of this is ultra nazi, since your map looks pretty much flawless. feel free to ignore everything

[Normal]

Blankets that can be improved (full Nazi)
00:14:478 (3,2) - trail is slightly off. move it closer to the tail of 00:14:478 (3) - (1~3 coords) http://puu.sh/9c4GQ/57c15fa55b.jpg
00:34:478 (4,1) - head/tail are not close enough/trail is too far away (try to hold it in the middle of the approach circle | the trail almost hits the inside of the approachcircle while the head/tail hits the outside) http://puu.sh/9c4XL/5baf76f396.jpg
01:39:995 (2,3) - ^
02:30:685 (3,4) - tail/head mismatch, head hits the approach circle while tail doesnt http://puu.sh/9c5WO/c5749c828d.jpg
02:43:444 (1,3) - clearly visible
02:51:719 (1,2) - trail too far inside
02:55:857 (3) - moves inward http://puu.sh/9c68e/41b17324c1.jpg

00:22:409 (2) - a little bit to the left for be in the middle of 00:21:375 (1,3) - ?
00:46:202 (3) - eventually move this a bit lower so that 00:45:513 (2) - "imaginary extended trail" would hit it
01:22:064 (1) - this doesnt actually fit 01:20:685 (3) - 's path http://puu.sh/9c5zL/cc6b6b72c0.jpg
02:01:720 (5,2) - no biggie here, but its kinda bugging me since the approach circle of 2 makes it possible for the player to think that 02:01:720 (5) - has a hit under it before 02:02:409 (1) - comes, but that is just me
02:33:099 (1) - wrong overlap, tail off by x1
02:57:927 (2) - overlap with 02:55:168 (1) - ?

[Hard]

Blankets that can be improved (full Nazi)
00:18:272 (4,6) - head is too far away
00:21:375 (5,6) - not round enough
00:29:651 (3,4) - off
01:07:582 (2,3) - off
01:13:099 (2,3) - less curve
01:35:513 (4,6) - tail too close/head too far away
01:53:099 (5,6) - tail too far away
03:21:375 (4,6) - x pos is off
03:22:064 (6,7) - round it more :> http://puu.sh/9c7hQ/9916cf9197.jpg

00:14:824 (2,3) - slightly off http://puu.sh/9c6kx/a0b83b7b98.jpg
00:23:099 (2) - off by 1 on each coord
00:34:478 (1) - off by 3y
00:48:961 (2) - tail off by 1x
01:21:375 (2,3) - i kinda dislike this random back and forth, keep it simple on this, ctrl+g and swap hitsounds
03:31:719 (4,5) - ^
02:02:409 (2) - i think the NC should be here due to the "fast" vocal change
02:12:064 (3) - wrong overlap
02:13:099 (1) - 236/116?
02:39:306 (3) - overlap off by 1x
02:39:995 (4) - ^
03:06:202 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I'd be happier if this combo would have the same idea behind it as the combos before (the low spacing after any combo ends 03:02:754 (5,1) - 02:59:995 (8,1) - ) it felt right and i think it should be continued here as well
03:12:754 (3) - off by 1x
03:37:926 (3) - off by 1x 2y

[Zero's Insane]

Blankets that can be improved (Nazi)
00:15:857 (1,3) - 3's head is too far inside
00:54:478 (2,3) - not round enough
01:45:513 (1,2,3,4) - if it's supposed to end in a blanket - fix it :3
01:47:926 (6,1) - trail too far outside
02:29:651 (1,2) - ^
02:53:099 (6,7) - rotate this one a little bit
03:23:444 (1,2) - angle is off http://puu.sh/9c8kM/81f5fab44e.jpg

00:38:616 (4,5) - ~~make this a blanket?~~ 01:28:271 (4,5) - same thing, so it's intended
00:49:306 (3) - tail's overlap is off
01:19:995 (5) - off by 1 on each coord
01:23:099 (5,1) - make this a better blanket

I'll probably see this ranked soon, gl with it!

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-06-02T21:26:01+00:00

Yauxo wrote:
Hi there, coming from your request in my Modding Q
As requested, I'll go nazi on blankets let's kill them all! +__+

[General]
Do you really need 7 combo colours? D: yup. need 4 for coloured parts and 3 for greyscales. :3
Warning: 99% of this is ultra nazi, since your map looks pretty much flawless. feel free to ignore everything

[Normal]

Blankets that can be improved (full Nazi)
00:14:478 (3,2) - trail is slightly off. move it closer to the tail of 00:14:478 (3) - (1~3 coords) http://puu.sh/9c4GQ/57c15fa55b.jpg
00:34:478 (4,1) - head/tail are not close enough/trail is too far away (try to hold it in the middle of the approach circle | the trail almost hits the inside of the approachcircle while the head/tail hits the outside) http://puu.sh/9c4XL/5baf76f396.jpg
01:39:995 (2,3) - ^
02:30:685 (3,4) - tail/head mismatch, head hits the approach circle while tail doesnt http://puu.sh/9c5WO/c5749c828d.jpg
02:43:444 (1,3) - clearly visible
02:51:719 (1,2) - trail too far inside
02:55:857 (3) - moves inward http://puu.sh/9c68e/41b17324c1.jpg
fixed all of them! thanks!
00:22:409 (2) - a little bit to the left for be in the middle of 00:21:375 (1,3) - ? don't want them to create a straight line, cause I prefer curves. ;_;
00:46:202 (3) - eventually move this a bit lower so that 00:45:513 (2) - "imaginary extended trail" would hit it yup
01:22:064 (1) - this doesnt actually fit 01:20:685 (3) - 's path http://puu.sh/9c5zL/cc6b6b72c0.jpg
wasn't intended that way, but changed it up a bit so it forms square pattern.. kinda.
02:01:720 (5,2) - no biggie here, but its kinda bugging me since the approach circle of 2 makes it possible for the player to think that 02:01:720 (5) - has a hit under it before 02:02:409 (1) - comes, but that is just me
maybe it's not just you, but the majority was able to play this without getting confused, so I'll keep it. :3
02:33:099 (1) - wrong overlap, tail off by x1 oh, fixed!
02:57:927 (2) - overlap with 02:55:168 (1) - ? hm, okay

[Hard]

Blankets that can be improved (full Nazi)
00:18:272 (4,6) - head is too far away
00:21:375 (5,6) - not round enough
00:29:651 (3,4) - off
01:07:582 (2,3) - off
01:13:099 (2,3) - less curve
01:35:513 (4,6) - tail too close/head too far away
01:53:099 (5,6) - tail too far away
03:21:375 (4,6) - x pos is off
03:22:064 (6,7) - round it more :> http://puu.sh/9c7hQ/9916cf9197.jpg
fixed all as well! :3
00:14:824 (2,3) - slightly off http://puu.sh/9c6kx/a0b83b7b98.jpg true. fixed!
00:23:099 (2) - off by 1 on each coord it's perfectly stacked below 00:22:064 (6) - ;-;
00:34:478 (1) - off by 3y fixed
00:48:961 (2) - tail off by 1x
01:21:375 (2,3) - i kinda dislike this random back and forth, keep it simple on this, ctrl+g and swap hitsounds
changed for now, but I'm not entirely happy that it's not consistent with the pther parts now..
03:31:719 (4,5) - ^ fixed
02:02:409 (2) - i think the NC should be here due to the "fast" vocal change right
02:12:064 (3) - wrong overlap fixed
02:13:099 (1) - 236/116? naah, it's stacked with the circle after the break. (and I wanna stick to that pattern 100%.. >__<)
02:39:306 (3) - overlap off by 1x fixed
02:39:995 (4) - ^
03:06:202 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - I'd be happier if this combo would have the same idea behind it as the combos before (the low spacing after any combo ends 03:02:754 (5,1) - 02:59:995 (8,1) - ) it felt right and i think it should be continued here as well
changed this up a bit, differently tho
03:12:754 (3) - off by 1x fixed
03:37:926 (3) - off by 1x 2y fixed!

I'll probably see this ranked soon, gl with it!
haha, thanks. <3 ~~tryin to find a BAT with free time for a month now. XD orz~~

Thank you! ~~I'll reply to this in detail once I update the map!~~ :3
gotta look for more mods now.. +__+

updated.

Secretpipe

3,316 posts

Joined December 2012

Secretpipe 2014-06-15T13:36:47+00:00

As promised !

[Normal]
00:13:099 (1,3) - Bad overlap
00:55:513 (4,2) - A bit confuse !
00:58:271 (5) - Cur it for blanket !
01:31:719 (3) - Too near of the lifebar ! Move it down !
02:08:271 (1,2,3,4) - Weird flow !
02:35:168 (1) - Same as above !
02:37:926 (1,3) - Fix the bad overlap here !
02:44:133 (3) - Same as 01:31:719 (3)
03:12:754 (3) - Same as above !
03:41:375 - I'd add a note before spinner

[Hard]
00:12:409 (3,4,5) - Weird stack here !
00:13:788 (6,1) - Weird transition
00:16:548 (7,8,1) - Bad flow
00:18:501 (5,6) - Stack it maybe ?
00:20:685 (3,5) - Kinda ugly pattern !
00:28:156 (7,1) - Stack them !
00:32:409 (1) - NC here makes nonsense
00:46:202 (3,4) - Weird flow !
00:49:651 (3,5,1) - Pretty bad flow here
00:55:168 (5,1,2,3) - Space these sliders !
00:58:961 (1,2,3) - Same as above !
01:07:582 (2) - Stack on (3)
01:10:340 (1,2,3,4) - Space them by makin' another pattern !
02:13:099 (1) - Stack it on tail
02:50:340 (7) - Make it straight like before !
03:22:754 (7,1) - Fix pretty bad overlap !
03:35:856 (5,6) - These circles are too high ! Move them down !

Will mod the last diff later.
Sorry if I haven't explained a lot of things cause I'm a bit busy atm !
Good luck

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-06-15T14:39:37+00:00

Thanks, Secret! :3

~~I'll reply in detail later!~~

Secretpipe

Secretpipe wrote:
As promised !

[Normal]
00:13:099 (1,3) - Bad overlap nah, that's fine. :3
00:55:513 (4,2) - A bit confuse ! only for
00:58:271 (5) - Cur it for blanket ! I rather keep similarity to 00:56:547 (2) - here. D:
01:31:719 (3) - Too near of the lifebar ! Move it down ! oh, sure, rearranges that part a bit. c:
02:08:271 (1,2,3,4) - Weird flow ! changed
02:35:168 (1) - Same as above ! tried to change
02:37:926 (1,3) - Fix the bad overlap here ! it's intentional and totally fine. o.o
02:44:133 (3) - Same as 01:31:719 (3) it's fine in this case, I think, as it's just the slider track that's touching the bar. > it's readable as it is even for newbies :3
03:12:754 (3) - Same as above ! changed slightly
03:41:375 - I'd add a note before spinner I like the idea, but I want to keep this diff a bit more simple, cause it's the easiest. :3

[Hard]
00:12:409 (3,4,5) - Weird stack here ! looks and plays fine for me, what's weird about it? s:
00:13:788 (6,1) - Weird transition I like it, tho. ><
00:16:548 (7,8,1) - Bad flow how is it bad? >: please explain?
00:18:501 (5,6) - Stack it maybe ? doesn't look good, it get's too crowded then.
00:20:685 (3,5) - Kinda ugly pattern ! looks good to me. :\
00:28:156 (7,1) - Stack them ! no. :\ (same reason as above)
00:32:409 (1) - NC here makes nonsense removed
00:46:202 (3,4) - Weird flow ! plays fine :3
00:49:651 (3,5,1) - Pretty bad flow here I like how it plays :\
00:55:168 (5,1,2,3) - Space these sliders ! why?
00:58:961 (1,2,3) - Same as above ! ^
01:07:582 (2) - Stack on (3) Nah, the stack emphasizes the la-vocals :3
01:10:340 (1,2,3,4) - Space them by makin' another pattern ! I like the current pattern
02:13:099 (1) - Stack it on tail why? :\
02:50:340 (7) - Make it straight like before ! I want to use it as a blanket tho
03:22:754 (7,1) - Fix pretty bad overlap ! it's intentional.. and a regular stack. o.o
03:35:856 (5,6) - These circles are too high ! Move them down ! they're not? (placed on y:0, what's wrong with that?)

Will mod the last diff later.
Sorry if I haven't explained a lot of things cause I'm a bit busy atm !
Good luck

thank you!

updated my diffs, waiting for Zero's update now. :3

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2014-06-19T10:11:42+00:00

I've read this, but Secretpipe didn't... so

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-06-19T10:28:34+00:00

Zero__wind wrote:
I've read this, but Secretpipe didn't... so

oh, I didn't notice. LOL sorry!
waiting for the rest of the mod, in that case ~ x:

Secretpipe

3,316 posts

Joined December 2012

Secretpipe 2014-06-19T20:01:24+00:00

My bad...

I was extremly busy ! Have my excuses Zero !

[Zero's Insane]

00:21:260 (4) - Stack it !
00:36:892 (2) - I'd reverse it !
00:38:961 (5) - Maybe Ctrl+G ?
00:48:961 (2) - Same as above !
00:54:133 (1,3) - Fix the bad overlap
00:59:306 (3) - Ctrl+G'd fit better here imo !
01:17:926 (1,2,3,1) - Shape of the parallelogramm can be improved !
01:23:099 (5) - Ctrl+G that and I'll give you a cookie =3
01:27:926 (2,1,2,3) - Reduce spacing or stack it a bit C:
01:36:892 (6) - I'd blanket this !
01:41:490 (2,3,4) - You can increase flow !
Click
01:55:168 (2) - I'd Ctrl+J , then Ctrl+H then Ctrl+G . If you make that , replace it ! It fits better imo!
02:11:719 (2) - I'd Ctrl+G this !
02:12:179 (1) - I'd remove this spinner and a note here 02:12:409 - ; 02:12:754 - and 02:13:099 -
02:25:857 (2) - I'd Ctrl+J for increase flow with 02:26:892 (1) -
03:13:788 (1) - Maybe blanket this ?
03:41:030 (4) - Ctrl+G this ! If fits better !

Sorry for taking a long time ! Your diff is already good C:
Good luck =p

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2014-06-21T14:29:02+00:00

I only fixed some blanket stuff and a few for spacing
some CTRL+G suggestions are ok but too boring to be there imo
kinda want to keep how my map currently flows, not only symmetrical jumps and oval-flow everywhere

code

osu file format v13

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BeatDivisor: 6
GridSize: 4
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[Metadata]
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TitleUnicode:Hello Heartache
Artist:Avril Lavigne
ArtistUnicode:Avril Lavigne
Creator:Squirrel
Version:Zero's Insane
Source:
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thx for your mods~ Yauxo and Secretpipe

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-06-21T18:43:26+00:00

yay, updated! finally! :3
now let's go BAT-hunting..! '^'

neonat

Beatmap Nominator

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Joined April 2012

neonat 2014-06-23T11:30:01+00:00

Just a quick look at Hard

Hard

01:32:754 (4) - x:380 y:184 seems to be the perfect straight path
02:07:237 (5) - change whistle to finish, I believe the cymbals in the music require more impact/effect from hitsounds
02:39:306 (3,1) - could blanket better
03:41:030 (4,1) - straight along 03:40:685 (3) - ? Seems better, the slider not being a curved one after all

Squichu

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Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-06-23T13:31:53+00:00

neonat wrote:
Just a quick look at Hard yay! owo

Hard

01:32:754 (4) - x:380 y:184 seems to be the perfect straight path not quite, but I moved 01:32:409 (3) - instead to match better
02:07:237 (5) - change whistle to finish, I believe the cymbals in the music require more impact/effect from hitsounds changed
02:39:306 (3,1) - could blanket better fixed!
03:41:030 (4,1) - straight along 03:40:685 (3) - ? Seems better, the slider not being a curved one after all sure

thank you!
updated. :3

edit 26/06
updated with fixed combo colours for Hard diff.

edit 02/08
updated with some minor changes to patterns I started to dislike ~

Shohei Ohtani

Shohei Ohtani 2014-09-06T22:15:55+00:00

Avril Lavigne 2: Electric Boogaloo

Insane:
00:41:030 (2) - The reason this diff works is because there's a lot of nice flow to it, but this completely breaks that
00:42:064 (5) - A little bit too hidden for my preference
01:28:961 (1,2,3) - I actually went into the editor and played this sightreading. I couldn't read it. The way the map is set up, it'd probably be better for this to be a jump
02:12:179 (1) - Add some sort of hitsound here
02:51:719 (1) - This could be constructed a little smarter in terms of flow

Hard:
00:18:272 (4,5,6) - It looks a little bit cramped
00:25:513 (1,2) - Y this jump tho
00:34:593 (1,1) - There is a lot of discussion related to the amount of space in between the end of a spinner and the beginning of the next note. I personally feel it's fine, but be aware that this is a topic of discussion right now in the BAT world
00:49:651 (3,4,5) - I really don't like mapping that goes back on itself. You should always have continuous motion
00:52:754 (6,7) - ^
01:15:857 (1) - Same as previous spinner
01:26:202 (1,2,3,4) - I'm still trying to understand why these jumps happen
01:40:800 (1) - Same as previous spinner
02:01:030 (2,3,4,5) - whyyyyyyyyyy
02:32:754 (6) - The way this is placed, it looks like a spacing error
02:57:926 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Like my main issue with this other than the overlapping is that it doens't really go with the vocals. It seems more like "I WANNA MAKE A STAR STAR MADE"

Normal:
Fine

Even if a song is slow, the way to make it fun isn't by adding random jumps that don't really make sense

Squichu

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Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-09-06T23:24:43+00:00

CDFA

CDFA wrote:
Avril Lavigne 2: Electric Boogaloo

Hard:
00:18:272 (4,5,6) - It looks a little bit cramped yah, changed
00:25:513 (1,2) - Y this jump tho
the same reason I used jumps at 00:17:238 (1,2) - and 00:19:995 (1,2) - and 00:22:754 (1,2) - and basically every part similar to this. the louder beat is at (1), but while mapping/playing I noticed that ppl are more comfortable with jumps from (1) to (2) and not from 00:24:823 (7) - to (1), even tho that would have been the 'correct' way to place the jump.
00:34:593 (1,1) - There is a lot of discussion related to the amount of space in between the end of a spinner and the beginning of the next note. I personally feel it's fine, but be aware that this is a topic of discussion right now in the BAT world
I noticed.. but as long as there is no rule that prevents me from using this spinner/slider I'm going to keep it, as it goes perfectly with vocals/beat. ;-;
00:49:651 (3,4,5) - I really don't like mapping that goes back on itself. You should always have continuous motion changed, have to refine the pattern tho .o.
00:52:754 (6,7) - ^ changed, too
01:15:857 (1) - Same as previous spinner I'll keep it in mind!
01:26:202 (1,2,3,4) - I'm still trying to understand why these jumps happen cause emphasis ;n; I'll try to figure something out that doesn't use jumps as soon as I can. u-u
01:40:800 (1) - Same as previous spinner Okay, noted down!
02:01:030 (2,3,4,5) - whyyyyyyyyyy changed
02:32:754 (6) - The way this is placed, it looks like a spacing error whoops, indeed. fixed
02:57:926 (2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - Like my main issue with this other than the overlapping is that it doens't really go with the vocals. It seems more like "I WANNA MAKE A STAR STAR MADE" I'll see how I can change this up, I wanted to use circles only cause it's the beginning of the last chorus.. but I'll change that. It's not really a star pattern tho! x:

Normal:
Fine
Yay. >w<

Even if a song is slow, the way to make it fun isn't by adding random jumps that don't really make sense
BUt they make sense. s: at least most. I have to admit I don't know about all of them cause it's been a rather long time I mapped it.. x:

Thanks! ~~I'll reply in detail later on! :3~~

updated.
gonna update later on with version that's hopefully better with jumps etc

Last edited by Squichu 2014-09-07T09:09:12+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Zero__wind

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Zero__wind 2014-09-07T01:53:37+00:00

CDFA wrote:
Avril Lavigne 2: Electric Boogaloo

Insane:
00:41:030 (2) - The reason this diff works is because there's a lot of nice flow to it, but this completely breaks that changed this part
00:42:064 (5) - A little bit too hidden for my preference and this
01:28:961 (1,2,3) - I actually went into the editor and played this sightreading. I couldn't read it. The way the map is set up, it'd probably be better for this to be a jump okie
02:12:179 (1) - Add some sort of hitsound here I'd rather not. I used soft to represent most the kick drum sound in the map, like 00:08:961 (1,1) - and all the similar ones, so I think it'll be good leave it as it is
02:51:719 (1) - This could be constructed a little smarter in terms of flow I'd like to keep the current if it's ok because it keeps the symmetry from the way I created this pattern while I don't think this plays really bad

Even if a song is slow, the way to make it fun isn't by adding random jumps that don't really make sense

thx for your mod CDFnya~

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Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-09-07T11:23:21+00:00

updated again. ;-; Hard seems so broing to me now, but Idk ~
gonna look for more mods.

Krfawy

1,374 posts

Joined March 2012

Krfawy 2014-09-08T13:47:11+00:00

Hello Sweetie! Checking for you. :3

General

I am just wondering if you could make the 7th combo colour a bit darker because now the last one and the very previous one are very similar.

Normal

01:04:823 (1) - I am not sure if the very end of the slider wasn't meant to include a whistle. Now I just feel it makes it a bit inconsistent when we compare it to the whole kiai.
01:29:651 (3) - At the very moment here's a clap when at a Hard diff there's a finish. I recommend to make it the same in both of them, probably with finish only or with both of them.
02:09:305 (3,4) - I just feel more comfortable when there is something like a circle and a head of the slider than 2 circles in a Normal diff. But it's just my opinion because I know there are many ways of that tricking. xD
02:11:030 (1,2) - And I am not sure but it just feels empty without a whistle somewhere here. I know you made it to emphasize 02:12:410 (3) but now it just feels a bit empty.
03:35:857 (1) - Because you used the finish at the same moments, I think it'd make it more consistent if you'd use a finish at the head of the slider too because now it's not consistent.

Hard

02:07:237 (5,3) - You probably made a mistake when hitsounding those moments. Wasn't a finish meant to be placed at (5) slider instead of the (3)? xD
03:41:030 (4) - How about making a 2/6 slider instead of the circle here? Now I just feel a little emptiness here since it would match the percussion.

Well I don't think there's something wrong in Insane diff. Sometimes I just don't like the way it's hitsounded with drum whistles but it's just my personal opinion because everybody has own style of hitsounding and I am not a big fan of drum samplesets. But yeah it sounds pretty nice. And the whole mapset is nice to play.

Find a BAT soon, please! I know you can do it! ;w;

Chaoslitz

Elite Mapper / Elite Storyboarder

2,325 posts

Joined November 2013

Chaoslitz 2014-09-08T14:41:52+00:00

NM From my queue

Hard
00:16:203 (6,7,8) - Move it upper, it stacks with 00:15:513 (4,5)
00:32:294 (3,4) - Move it closer since it has a low BPM
00:32:639 (5,6) - ^
01:28:961 (1,1) - Nice ;D
03:13:099 (4) - For a better flow

03:39:306 (1) - Move slightly, for better blanket

Nice map ;D, I like those blanket combos :3

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-09-08T16:30:15+00:00

Thanks, you two. <3
I'll reply in detail later on (as always.. orz). *w*

Chaos

Chaoslitz wrote:
NM From my queue

Hard
00:16:203 (6,7,8) - Move it upper, it stacks with 00:15:513 (4,5) okay
00:32:294 (3,4) - Move it closer since it has a low BPM but it's just the standard DS? .o. it might get confusing if I move it even closer cause it's mapped on 1/6.
00:32:639 (5,6) - ^ ^
01:28:961 (1,1) - Nice ;D Thanks? owo
03:13:099 (4) - For a better flow

sure
03:39:306 (1) - Move slightly, for better blanket moved a few pixels!

Nice map ;D, I like those blanket combos :3
Thanks! ;w; I like them too.. xD

Krfawy

Krfawy wrote:
Hello Sweetie! Checking for you. :3 Thanks thanks thaaaanks. <3 QwQ

General
I am just wondering if you could make the 7th combo colour a bit darker because now the last one and the very previous one are very similar. Yah, sure. owo
Normal
01:04:823 (1) - I am not sure if the very end of the slider wasn't meant to include a whistle. Now I just feel it makes it a bit inconsistent when we compare it to the whole kiai. added!
01:29:651 (3) - At the very moment here's a clap when at a Hard diff there's a finish. I recommend to make it the same in both of them, probably with finish only or with both of them. added Normal-finish here owo
02:09:305 (3,4) - I just feel more comfortable when there is something like a circle and a head of the slider than 2 circles in a Normal diff. But it's just my opinion because I know there are many ways of that tricking. xD probably true, moved 3 so it stacks with sliderhead now
02:11:030 (1,2) - And I am not sure but it just feels empty without a whistle somewhere here. I know you made it to emphasize 02:12:410 (3) but now it just feels a bit empty. addeeed
03:35:857 (1) - Because you used the finish at the same moments, I think it'd make it more consistent if you'd use a finish at the head of the slider too because now it's not consistent. added as well ;w;
Hard
02:07:237 (5,3) - You probably made a mistake when hitsounding those moments. Wasn't a finish meant to be placed at (5) slider instead of the (3)? xD nice catch! I wonder why I suck with hitsounding THAT hard, srsly. I'd never have noticed!
03:41:030 (4) - How about making a 2/6 slider instead of the circle here? Now I just feel a little emptiness here since it would match the percussion. okay. owo
Well I don't think there's something wrong in Insane diff. Sometimes I just don't like the way it's hitsounded with drum whistles but it's just my personal opinion because everybody has own style of hitsounding and I am not a big fan of drum samplesets. But yeah it sounds pretty nice. And the whole mapset is nice to play.

Find a BAT soon, please! I know you can do it! ;w;
I hope I can do it. ;~; I'm slooowly running out of motivation. XD

Thanks again. QwQ
updated!

Mao

Elite Mapper II

2,963 posts

Joined December 2012

Mao 2014-09-14T14:12:14+00:00

Yuzu- requested this per ingame-PM~

Unrankable Issue/Highly Suggested
Comment/Minor

General

Uncheck Widescreensupport and Letterbox in Breaks as long as you aren't getting a cool 16:9 SB ;3
Nothing you have to do but giving your grey colors a slightly blue touch would be pretty nice as the BG actually lacks grey. Example
According to the RC which says that you need complete Sets Skinned and you've Skinned the Hitcircle Set you also need a reversearrow.png :V Source
Skinning wrote:
Hitcircle set
hitcircle.png
hitcircleoverlay.png
approachcircle.png
reversearrow.png

Normal

Schau dir mal Zero's Hitsounding an. Ich find das Normal Sampleset passt so viel besser zu dem Lied als die soft clap, weil die claps im lied einfach näher an das Normal-Hitnormal rankommen. Das muss überarbeitet werden imo.
00:08:961 (1) - Mach den Spinner um 1/2 kürzer. Ich finde das passt viel besser aufgrund des Geräusches da und außerdem würdest du dem Spieler mehr Reaktionszeit geben.
00:58:271 (5,1,2) - Das hier spielt sich recht verkrampft, weil der Übergang zwischen 1 und 2 im Prinzip komplett horizontal erfolgt, was die Kurve nicht sehr unterstützt. Sowas würde sich hier wesentlich flüssiger spielen.
01:15:857 (7,1,2,3) - Ein Spinner für Consistency mit der Hard wäre schön hier. Ist aber nicht notwendig, wolltes nur erwähnen :p
01:26:202 (3,4,1) - Ich weiß, dass das alles Blankets sind, aber ich find es hat sich nicht sonderlich gut gespielt, weil für mich der Übergang in die 4 den Flow ein wenig breakt. Irgendetwas wie [urll=http://puu.sh/byVhx/a7f9b19186.jpg] das hier[/url] würde zwar ein wenig rearranging erfordern, sich dafür aber deutlich besser flowen.
02:40:685 (1) - /Minor/ - Versuche mal den vorletzten Anchor ein wenig hochzuverschieben, damit dir Kurve schöner wird und zu dem anderen Slider passt. Example
02:49:651 (2) - Meiner Meinung nach spielt es sich nicht sonderlich gut wie die Kurve in 1 übergeht, weil das alles sehr harsch wirkt. Deshalb würde ihr eher soetwas machen :3
Ich mag die Struktur und das Aussehen. Flow ist auch gut, aber braucht hier und da noch ein wenig Polishing. Ich mag es nicht bei 00:58:271 (5) - (und den anderen in den anderen Kiais), wie sie auf dem großen Downbeat enden, weil der hier echt betont sein müsste imo. Bei den Spinnern vorm Chorus frage ich nochmal rum, weil das mit der Recovery Time mittlerweile strenger betrachtet wird :/

Hard

Ich find AR6~6,5 passt viel besser zum Spread und auch gut zur recht langsamen map.
OD und HP sind recht hoch verglichen zur Normal. Probier 5,5 bei beiden.
Das selbe, was ich in der Normal zum Hitsounding gesagt habe gilt hier selbstverständlich auch.
Gehe deine Map durch und versuche Overlaps mit der HP-Bar wie beispielsweise 00:46:202 (3,4,5) - zu vermeiden. Das sieht meist unschön aus und ist hinderlich beim spielen :/
Unsnapped Objects:
00:56:202 (1) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:56:547 (2) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:56:892 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
01:53:099 (5) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:24:478 (6) - Ich find, dass es sich komisch anfühlt die Vocals auf 00:24:708 - zu ignorieren weil die an sich auch eine Art build-up zu dem upbeat sind. Bitte nimm nen 1/3 Slider :<
00:27:811 (6) - Hm, ich bin mir nicht sicher ob ein 1/6 Slider soeine gute Idee ist, weil er mich schon ziemlich verwirrt hat :/ Ich würde eher ein 1/6-Double wie bei den anderen nehmen.
00:32:639 (5,6) - Solch hohes Spacing bei einfachen Doubles spielt sich immer komisch imo. Probier bei diesen Doubles einfach mal 1,0 aus. Das spielt sich viel besser und sieht auch schöner aus, wenn du mich fragst (: Example
00:39:306 (7,1) - Ich weiß schon was du hier folgst, aber die Lücke fühlt sich total leer an imo. Sowas wär hier total schön als build-up auch für die Vocals :3 (Same applies for 01:45:513 (7,1) - )
00:52:064 (4,7) - /Minor/ - Stack die beiden hier damit es einmal ums Dreieck drumherum geht. Der overlap so ist noch sichtbar was es ein wenig untidy erscheinend lässt.
01:07:926 (3) - Was genau folgst du mit dem? Der dominante Rhythm spiel sich hier für mich eindeutig auf den lila Ticks ab, sodass sich das hier irgendwie komisch anhört. Sowas passt hier auch durch den Hold der Vocals sehr schön hin imo. Selbiges gilt für 01:13:099 (2,3,4) - . (Nach der letzten Kiai find ichs okay, weil davor die Density höher ist, was den 1/2 Slider irgendwie einleitet)
01:29:651 (1) - Der Circle hat mich durch den Overlap mit 01:28:616 (8) - total verwirrt und ich hab gemisst. 155|155 wär intuitiver, vor allem auch durch die Richtung, die 01:28:961 (1) - angibt.
02:33:099 (1) - Hm, der Winkel hier spielt sich ziemlich gezwungen finde ich, weil ich von der nicht so sehr schrägen Linie jetzt direkt nach links muss. Intuitiver wärs durch die Richtung der Linie eher, wenns leicht nach rechts oder leicht nach links geht.
02:35:168 (1,2) - Nur ne Idee, nichts was du applien musst; Ich fänds ziemlich cool, wenn das mit rotierten Slidern gemacht wär, da ich finde, dass der grade und der Runde hier nicht sooo gut zusammen passen. Example
02:58:616 (4) - Das würde sich so viel flüssiger spielen, wenns so wäre, weil so einfach der Übergang von der Kurve in den Slider direkt gegeben wäre ohne jeglichen Flow zu brechen.
03:01:375 (2,4) - Es ist noch sichtbar wie die beiden sich berühren, was das ganze ein wenig untidy aussehen lässt. Versuche das zu vermeiden.
An sich ganz gut, es fehlt mir hier und da noch ein wenig das Aufgeräumte aber der Flow ist großteils echt gut. Es wär schön, wenn du für 1/6 ein konstantes 1,00~1,10er Spacing ebnutzen würdest, aber das sind sicher nur meine Vorzüge :3

Zero's Insane

Is C7 as Sampleset intentional to just use the default ones or are there files missing? If it's just for the default ones, I'd use the actual default ones as it's pretty confusing for modders lel
The Density in the Section starting at 02:24:133 - is even higher in the Normal. I also feel like this rhythm is pretty weird as you are ignoring so many important beats both in terms of vocals and drums like 02:24:823 - for instance. The Section also palyed very confusing to this for me at least counter-intuitive rhythm :/
00:41:719 (4,5) - This jump feels way too high here which makes it overdone in my eyes. Aming this is a struggle for me causing a kinda forced unpleasant feeling. Therefore please lower the DS (stacking with 00:40:340 (5) - 's head could work as well).
00:54:133 (1,3) - /Comment/ - I'm not really sure what to think about this as it's pretty cool but still feels kinda out of order compared to the map's structure. This would fit the overall appearance better. If you want to keep it I'd still adjust it a bit so that 3 overlaps 1's head completely to make it look a bit cleaner.
01:35:513 (1,2) - The low spacing here doesn't really work imo. First of all I think the turn provided by 2 needs a faster movement from the previous object into it to feel smooth. Also the emphasis on 2 would be better with this. Example
02:00:340 (1,2) - It would be pretty neat to see these two arranged like a circle. Just an idea though, feel free to deny~
02:51:605 (9,1) - The flow between these notes feels very forced and counter-intuitive to me which makes me often miss/break here. The main problem is the direction you are facing into with the the stream and then rapidly turn down with such a jump. Therefore please try something like this for example.
Overall a pretty nice, creative Diff! Good job :3

It still needs a few more mods before I consider this as ready as there are in my opinion still some fairly big issues here and there :/

Zero__wind

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Zero__wind 2014-09-15T13:39:38+00:00

hello Mao, couldn't "Reply"

hitsound: it's C:17, all default actually though, because I love that number~

rhythm density: meaningless to compare between diffs when they're not made by the same person. my rhythm does followed a track I'd call it "background melody". (I'm bad at music so idk how to express that) I made it that way because I want to show different ways a single song could be presented and performed. and also I love how the drum sliderticks sound in that part

others all fixed except "the RED one". as I don't think it plays bad, better than your solution, and it also looks pretty nice as it keeps their symmetry. as long as I think it's not anything unrankable I would not feel like to change it. if players can't DT it's not my fault. (they actually can, for sure)

thx for your mod

code

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Squichu

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Squichu 2014-09-15T13:54:22+00:00

Thanks a lot! Going to update & reply in detail later on! :3

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waiting with update til after Nichiyoukis post! ^w^

Mao

Mao wrote:
Yuzu- requested this per ingame-PM~
Thanks to him for doing that. ;w; <3
& thanks to you for modding. ~ :3

General
Uncheck Widescreensupport and Letterbox in Breaks as long as you aren't getting a cool 16:9 SB ;3 done
Nothing you have to do but giving your grey colors a slightly blue touch would be pretty nice as the BG actually lacks grey.
I tried that months ago but went with grey instead because it matches better with the other combo colours. plus greyish-blue looked too lively, which is also why I wanna use greyscales. I prefer the contrast between lively and liveless over the harmony with background colours.
According to the RC which says that you need complete Sets Skinned and you've Skinned the Hitcircle Set you also need a reversearrow.png :V
whops. I believed the reverse-arrow was seperated from hitcircles. added default one to song folder!

Normal
Schau dir mal Zero's Hitsounding an. Ich find das Normal Sampleset passt so viel besser zu dem Lied als die soft clap, weil die claps im lied einfach näher an das Normal-Hitnormal rankommen. Das muss überarbeitet werden imo.
Ich zieh die custom +soft Hitsounds ehrlich gesagt vor, vllt klingt das aber auch nur für mich besser. Ich guck mal was besser passt sobald ich weiß, wie genau ich's ändern will.
00:08:961 (1) - Mach den Spinner um 1/2 kürzer. Ich finde das passt viel besser aufgrund des Geräusches da und außerdem würdest du dem Spieler mehr Reaktionszeit geben.
Vom Geräusch her bin ich nich überzeugt, aber dass der Circle danach eventuell zu schnell kommt, stimmt. Hab deswegen den Spinner verlängert und die Circle rausgenommen.
00:58:271 (5,1,2) - Das hier spielt sich recht verkrampft, weil der Übergang zwischen 1 und 2 im Prinzip komplett horizontal erfolgt, was die Kurve nicht sehr unterstützt. Sowas würde sich hier wesentlich flüssiger spielen.
abgeändert, nur anders als im Beispiel, weil ich da die Bewegung von 4 zu 5 nich so angenehm fand
01:15:857 (7,1,2,3) - Ein Spinner für Consistency mit der Hard wäre schön hier. Ist aber nicht notwendig, wolltes nur erwähnen :p
war ursprünglich so. Hab ich aufgrund von Moddern aber ersetzt, da der Spinner + Reaktionszeit wohl zu kurz für die einfachste Diff waren. c:
01:26:202 (3,4,1) - Ich weiß, dass das alles Blankets sind, aber ich find es hat sich nicht sonderlich gut gespielt, weil für mich der Übergang in die 4 den Flow ein wenig breakt. Irgendetwas wie das hier würde zwar ein wenig rearranging erfordern, sich dafür aber deutlich besser flowen.
abgeändert, ziemlich genau wie im Beispiel
02:40:685 (1) - /Minor/ - Versuche mal den vorletzten Anchor ein wenig hochzuverschieben, damit dir Kurve schöner wird und zu dem anderen Slider passt. Example
okay
02:49:651 (2) - Meiner Meinung nach spielt es sich nicht sonderlich gut wie die Kurve in 1 übergeht, weil das alles sehr harsch wirkt. Deshalb würde ihr eher soetwas machen :3
das back-foth-stacking würd ich drin behalten wollen, einfach weil mir an der Stelle die Vocals extrem aufgefallen sind und es gut dazu passt, hab den Rest aber etwas umgeändert, ob's wesentlich besser is.. ~ xD
Ich mag die Struktur und das Aussehen. Flow ist auch gut, aber braucht hier und da noch ein wenig Polishing. Ich mag es nicht bei 00:58:271 (5) - (und den anderen in den anderen Kiais), wie sie auf dem großen Downbeat enden, weil der hier echt betont sein müsste imo. Bei den Spinnern vorm Chorus frage ich nochmal rum, weil das mit der Recovery Time mittlerweile strenger betrachtet wird :/
erst sind alle Spinner zu kurz, jetzt auch noch Recovery Time. asgfahf :c hoffentlich is die in Ordnung so. xD
was Kiai-Vorschläge angeht bin ich offen für alles, ich hätt sie am liebsten überall noch ne Ecke weiterlaufen lassen, fand das insgesamt dann aber übertrieben. :n

Hard
Ich find AR6~6,5 passt viel besser zum Spread und auch gut zur recht langsamen map. auf 6 reduziert
OD und HP sind recht hoch verglichen zur Normal. Probier 5,5 bei beiden.
OD auf 5,5 reduziert.
HP bei 6 gelassen. find das Setting eigentlich recht passend so, auch wenn es sich deutlich von Normal unterscheidet. Die map ist weder jump-heavy noch sind irgendwelche Streams drin, hier zu missen oder überhaupt 50er zu bekommen ist (imo) fast unmöglich.
Das selbe, was ich in der Normal zum Hitsounding gesagt habe gilt hier selbstverständlich auch.
Wie gesagt, ich guck was sich machen lässt. >~<
Gehe deine Map durch und versuche Overlaps mit der HP-Bar wie beispielsweise 00:46:202 (3,4,5) - zu vermeiden. Das sieht meist unschön aus und ist hinderlich beim spielen :/
will do. abgesehen von den genannten und einem Circle der fast damit überlappt hätte, habe ich aber keine gefunden.
Unsnapped Objects - alle gefixt
00:24:478 (6) - Ich find, dass es sich komisch anfühlt die Vocals auf 00:24:708 - zu ignorieren weil die an sich auch eine Art build-up zu dem upbeat sind. Bitte nimm nen 1/3 Slider :<
Find es passender hier beim Beat zu bleiben und wo der Slider enden würde bei 00:24:708 ist einfach keiner. :/
00:27:811 (6) - Hm, ich bin mir nicht sicher ob ein 1/6 Slider soeine gute Idee ist, weil er mich schon ziemlich verwirrt hat :/ Ich würde eher ein 1/6-Double wie bei den anderen nehmen.
geändert! wobei das jetzt das 3. mal is und jeder was anderes sagt. >: ich wart nur noch auf die Person die wieder nen Slider vorschlägt.. xD
00:32:639 (5,6) - Solch hohes Spacing bei einfachen Doubles spielt sich immer komisch imo. Probier bei diesen Doubles einfach mal 1,0 aus. Das spielt sich viel besser und sieht auch schöner aus, wenn du mich fragst (: Example
okay, hab sie aber ein wenig anders positioniert
00:39:306 (7,1) - Ich weiß schon was du hier folgst, aber die Lücke fühlt sich total leer an imo. Sowas wär hier total schön als build-up auch für die Vocals :3 (Same applies for 01:45:513 (7,1) - )
Mag die Lücke eigentlich ziemlich gerne.. :n hab jetzt erstmal nur einen Circle auf den Red Tick gepackt, da 1/3 Slider meiner Meinung nach nich passt, weil kein Beat vor dem nächsten Circle
00:52:064 (4,7) - /Minor/ - Stack die beiden hier damit es einmal ums Dreieck drumherum geht. Der overlap so ist noch sichtbar was es ein wenig untidy erscheinend lässt.
immer wieder Dreiecke und Vierecke fand ich auf Dauer lw, weswegen ich das hier unterbrochen hab. Hab statt das zu stacken jetzt ganz auseindander gezogen
01:07:926 (3) - Was genau folgst du mit dem? Der dominante Rhythm spiel sich hier für mich eindeutig auf den lila Ticks ab, sodass sich das hier irgendwie komisch anhört. Sowas passt hier auch durch den Hold der Vocals sehr schön hin imo. Selbiges gilt für 01:13:099 (2,3,4) - . (Nach der letzten Kiai find ichs okay, weil davor die Density höher ist, was den 1/2 Slider irgendwie einleitet)
changed
01:29:651 (1) - Der Circle hat mich durch den Overlap mit 01:28:616 (8) - total verwirrt und ich hab gemisst. 155|155 wär intuitiver, vor allem auch durch die Richtung, die 01:28:961 (1) - angibt.
hab lieber 01:28:961 (1) rotiert, jetzt sollte man intuitiv auch wieder in die Richtung ziehen
02:33:099 (1) - Hm, der Winkel hier spielt sich ziemlich gezwungen finde ich, weil ich von der nicht so sehr schrägen Linie jetzt direkt nach links muss. Intuitiver wärs durch die Richtung der Linie eher, wenns leicht nach rechts oder leicht nach links geht.
minimal anders gedreht, da das symmetrisch zu 02:32:064 (5,6) - aufgebaut is.
02:35:168 (1,2) - Nur ne Idee, nichts was du applien musst; Ich fänds ziemlich cool, wenn das mit rotierten Slidern gemacht wär, da ich finde, dass der grade und der Runde hier nicht sooo gut zusammen passen. Example
war auch mal so, wurde aufgrund von Mods dann geändert.. jetzt wieder rund.
02:58:616 (4) - Das würde sich so viel flüssiger spielen, wenns so wäre, weil so einfach der Übergang von der Kurve in den Slider direkt gegeben wäre ohne jeglichen Flow zu brechen.
Hab's nich ganz so extrem rotiert, das sah ziemlich ugly aus. aber fast.
03:01:375 (2,4) - Es ist noch sichtbar wie die beiden sich berühren, was das ganze ein wenig untidy aussehen lässt. Versuche das zu vermeiden.
okay
An sich ganz gut, es fehlt mir hier und da noch ein wenig das Aufgeräumte aber der Flow ist großteils echt gut. Es wär schön, wenn du für 1/6 ein konstantes 1,00~1,10er Spacing ebnutzen würdest, aber das sind sicher nur meine Vorzüge :3
Hab versucht mich bei den 1/6ern an 0.8 zu halten, hab ich zwischendurch aber vergessen.. mal gucken was am Ende besser aussieht.

It still needs a few more mods before I consider this as ready as there are in my opinion still some fairly big issues here and there :/
still on the hunt for mods, hard to find any, tho. \:D/ why do ppl despise low bpm 1/6 non-TV-size non-japanese songs.. so sad. :'C

updated for now, still have to apply Nichiyoukis mod!

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Nichiyouki

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Nichiyouki 2014-09-15T14:12:55+00:00

Hi, from my modding queue :3

[General]

Same with what Mao said. Please disable Letterbox during breaks & Widescreen support.

[Normal]

00:15:857 (2) - It seems whistle is unnecessary in slider tail, because it doesn't fit with the rhythm. Please remove it.
00:34:478 (4) - I think that make this slider like this picture would be better? Because I want this flow better than this.
SPOILER
00:51:030 (1,2) - I think these note switch like this picture would more fit with the melody than.
SPOILER
00:48:271 (1) - Add whistle in this slider tail?
00:55:513 (4,2) - Please try to avoid slider head (2) stack or overlap with slider tail (4). Because since this diff is easiest in this map, the newbie player may confused these.
00:57:926 (4) - Move this to x:288 y:124? I think this would flow better imo.
01:46:202 (1) - Use sampleset Normal on this spinner.

01:54:478 (1,2,3,4) - I feel it's weird pattern Copy these codes. I think it would be look better.

116,112,114478,6,0,P|81:108|48:120,2,70,8|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
166,181,115513,1,0,0:0:0:0:
148,264,115857,2,0,P|115:275|80:271,2,70,8|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,240,116892,1,0,0:0:0:0:

01:56:892 (4,1) - Try to avoid stacking with slider head (1). I feel confuse when I read this.
01:57:237 (1,2) - Same with 00:51:030 (1,2) -
02:01:720 (5,1) - Same with 00:55:513 (4,2) -
02:26:547 (5) - Add whistle in slider repeat.
02:32:064 (5) - ^
02:35:168 (1) - Curve this slider clockwise like this picture would be better?
SPOILER
02:37:926 (1,3) - These slider are rather complex, which may cause the new player confused. So please make these better.
02:49:651 (2) - I think that make this slider blanket with slider tail 02:48:616 (4) would be look better.

[Hard]

00:12:064 (2) - I think that whistle in this note is unnecessary to use. Please remove it.
00:14:823 (2) - ^
00:18:501 (5,6) - You can reduce spacing between these. I feel these flow weird.
00:32:294 (3,4) - Maybe try to reduce spacing or change these are a slider instead. It may be better to play imo.
00:32:639 (5,6) - ^
00:53:099 (7) - It overlapped with 00:52:064 (4). So please move (7) to stack or avoid (4) would be better.
00:55:168 (5,6) - I feel this is weird that these are stack. Please try to avoid stacking by may move (6) to cause it doesn't boring to play.
01:11:605 (5) - You can make this look better than this by make change pattern of this slider is curve slider, which blanket with 01:11:375 (4) like this picture.
SPOILER
03:02:409 (4,5) - Move (4) to stack with slider tail 03:00:685 (1), and move (5) to stack with slider head 03:01:375 (2). I think that it would look better imo.
03:03:444 (1) - Use pattern same with 03:04:133 (2), by try these are symmetrical like this picture.
SPOILER
03:21:375 (4,5) - Same with 00:55:168 (5,6) -

[Zero's Insane]

For my comments, I prefer to increase AR is about 8.3~8.5 more than. I feel it would be more fun.
00:15:742 (4,1) - Remove whistle on slider head of (1), but add drum-whistle on (4) instead.
00:40:340 (5,1) - I think that move these slider to like this picture. It would look and flow better than.
SPOILER
00:59:651 (4) - Use Ctrl+G to switch head and tail in this slider? I feel this would flow better than.
01:08:616 (2) - Maybe move this sider about 2 grids would be better?
01:21:949 (4,1) - Same with 00:15:742 (4,1) -
02:03:099 (4) - Use Ctrl+G in this slider, too.
02:24:113 ~ 02:35:168 - It seems too loud for me. So I think you can reduce this volume is about 30~35%
03:40:685 (3,4) - Use regular drum on slider tail of (3). Then change whistle on slider head is regular normal. It think it would fit with the rhythm.

~~I will mod Insane diff tomorrow... (or after Zero's Insane diff updated latest from previous post)~~

I think this Insane diff is okay, but I don't mean Normal and Hard diffs are bad. These are good as well. Just may want to a few mods from other modders.

Good luck :3

Edit: Modded Zero's Insane diff...

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Squichu

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Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-09-15T19:19:03+00:00

Thank you for the mod! :3
I'm going to fix your mod tomorrow, most likely and will reply then, too.
Zero's Insane is updated now, so feel free to mod once you have the time. >w<

Nichi

Nichiyouki wrote:
Hi, from my modding queue :3
Hi there! >w<

[General]
Same with what Mao said. Please disable Letterbox during breaks & Widescreen support. done!
[Normal]
00:15:857 (2) - It seems whistle is unnecessary in slider tail, because it doesn't fit with the rhythm. Please remove it. okay
00:34:478 (4) - I think that make this slider like this picture would be better? Because I want this flow better than this.
SPOILER
great idea, done! owo
00:51:030 (1,2) - I think these note switch like this picture would more fit with the melody than.
SPOILER
ye, changed
00:48:271 (1) - Add whistle in this slider tail? done
00:55:513 (4,2) - Please try to avoid slider head (2) stack or overlap with slider tail (4). Because since this diff is easiest in this map, the newbie player may confused these.
I had several newbie players testplay the diff and they didn't have much trouble with back-forth-stacking. Some missed the circle, but I don't think that's an issue. when new players decide to play Normal diff they know they most likely survive, just without full combo.
00:57:926 (4) - Move this to x:288 y:124? I think this would flow better imo.
changed the rhythm here so this doesn't apply anymore. >w<
01:46:202 (1) - Use sampleset Normal on this spinner. okay
01:54:478 (1,2,3,4) - I feel it's weird pattern Copy these codes. I think it would be look better.
changed, differently tho
01:56:892 (4,1) - Try to avoid stacking with slider head (1). I feel confuse when I read this.
changed
01:57:237 (1,2) - Same with 00:51:030 (1,2) - ye, changed too
02:01:720 (5,1) - Same with 00:55:513 (4,2) - keeping mine here, same reason as above
02:26:547 (5) - Add whistle in slider repeat. okay
02:32:064 (5) - ^ done
02:35:168 (1) - Curve this slider clockwise like this picture would be better?
SPOILER
I prefer the symmetry with 02:33:788 (2) - here >:
02:37:926 (1,3) - These slider are rather complex, which may cause the new player confused. So please make these better.
they didn't cause any confusion for the people who testplayed it. I added NC on the second slider so the pattern gets better readable, similar to 00:14:478 (3,1,2) - in the beginning
02:49:651 (2) - I think that make this slider blanket with slider tail 02:48:616 (4) would be look better.
changed in previous mod and I like how it currently plays.
[Hard]
00:12:064 (2) - I think that whistle in this note is unnecessary to use. Please remove it. okay
00:14:823 (2) - ^ ^
00:18:501 (5,6) - You can reduce spacing between these. I feel these flow weird. okay
00:32:294 (3,4) - Maybe try to reduce spacing or change these are a slider instead. It may be better to play imo.
redcued spacing (in previous mod)
00:32:639 (5,6) - ^ ^
00:53:099 (7) - It overlapped with 00:52:064 (4). So please move (7) to stack or avoid (4) would be better.
don't overlap anymore
00:55:168 (5,6) - I feel this is weird that these are stack. Please try to avoid stacking by may move (6) to cause it doesn't boring to play.
rearranged
01:11:605 (5) - You can make this look better than this by make change pattern of this slider is curve slider, which blanket with 01:11:375 (4) like this picture.
SPOILER
changed
03:02:409 (4,5) - Move (4) to stack with slider tail 03:00:685 (1), and move (5) to stack with slider head 03:01:375 (2). I think that it would look better imo.
prefer to not stack them here
03:03:444 (1) - Use pattern same with 03:04:133 (2), by try these are symmetrical like this picture.
SPOILER
changed them to be symmetrical, differently than on the picture tho
03:21:375 (4,5) - Same with 00:55:168 (5,6) -
disagreeing here, cause I don't thing it's boring to play.

Thank you!
updated.

edit - to everyone I asked for mods (via forum pm/queues/ingame..)
there is no need to mod anymore, cause I'm not going to update this any longer.
sorry and thanks for your time.

jonathanlfj

Elite Mapper

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jonathanlfj 2014-09-20T05:53:16+00:00

uhh i was just going to mod this today and i saw your previous post...are you still planning to get it ranked? Please let me know via forum pm

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

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Zero__wind 2014-09-20T09:40:05+00:00

lol
hello headache

Squichu

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Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-09-20T12:47:38+00:00

Zero__wind wrote:
lol
hello headache

sorry. :/

polka

1,125 posts

Joined March 2014

polka 2015-02-10T03:58:25+00:00

Sup from my modding queue.

Everything in this mod is solely my opinion as both a mapper and a player as to what I think the public would enjoy. I don't like forcing people to do things to their maps. Change what you feel is best.

I will mod Normal and Hard as requested

Normal:

You aren't using a 1/6 snap, so I suggest moving that down to 1/2.

00:52:409 (5) (1) Maybe change the direction of the slider so this doesn't go off screen.

01:19:306 (2) Maybe move this down so (3) can go more in the direction the slider naturally leads the player in.

01:24:823 (4) The curve you made in this slider could perfectly blanket (5)

01:27:237 (2) Maybe move this more in the direction (1) naturally leads you in?

02:41:375 (3) Maybe move this up more to better lead to (4)?

02:59:306 (5) Maybe change the direction of this slider so (1) has a bit more room to flow better?

03:13:788 (1) I would move this higher to be more in the direction (3) naturally leads the player in.

03:17:237 (2) This is really off screen. I highly suggest moving it.

Hard:

I suggest an approach rate of 7 or more. Helps pick up the pace.

01:29:880 (3) I suggest an NC here so the beat change seems more singled out

Other than that, I feel this is really well put together.

I enjoyed this map, it looks like you put a lot of time into it; it all paid off, too. Good luck and I'm glad I could help mod this wonderful map :3

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2015-02-10T08:10:53+00:00

Polka

PolkaMocha wrote:
Sup from my modding queue. hi there! >w<

Everything in this mod is solely my opinion as both a mapper and a player as to what I think the public would enjoy. I don't like forcing people to do things to their maps. Change what you feel is best.

I will mod Normal and Hard as requested

Normal:

You aren't using a 1/6 snap, so I suggest moving that down to 1/2. I don't think that matters. sure, there are less lines, but actually seeing what sliders like this 01:28:961 (1) - are shaped for is less confusing. and I like snapping anchors to beats, so yah. it's more handy if I keep it at 1/6

00:52:409 (5) (1) Maybe change the direction of the slider so this doesn't go off screen.
sure

01:19:306 (2) Maybe move this down so (3) can go more in the direction the slider naturally leads the player in.
adjusted the pattern slightly

01:24:823 (4) The curve you made in this slider could perfectly blanket (5)
ye, but it moves slightly worse than atm, so I'll keep it as it is ;w;

01:27:237 (2) Maybe move this more in the direction (1) naturally leads you in?
okay

02:41:375 (3) Maybe move this up more to better lead to (4)?
moved very slightly

02:59:306 (5) Maybe change the direction of this slider so (1) has a bit more room to flow better?
curved (5)

03:13:788 (1) I would move this higher to be more in the direction (3) naturally leads the player in.
I like the triangle it creates with 03:11:720 (2,3) - tho >-< and flow is acceptable, imo

03:17:237 (2) This is really off screen. I highly suggest moving it.
It's only offscreen in editor and perfectly visible while playing. :3

Hard:

I suggest an approach rate of 7 or more. Helps pick up the pace.
I'll think about it. I don't really want to increase it cause the spread gets so unbalanced then x:

01:29:880 (3) I suggest an NC here so the beat change seems more singled out
I'll keep it as it is for now, cause I like the consistency of NC on every downbeat. but I'll change it when more people prefer NC there!

Other than that, I feel this is really well put together.

I enjoyed this map, it looks like you put a lot of time into it; it all paid off, too. Good luck and I'm glad I could help mod this wonderful map :3
Thanks a lot, really! >w<

Thank you, PolkaMocha! :3
~~I'm in school right now so I'll apply the mod when I get home!~~

updateddd

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Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

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Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2015-02-11T00:05:13+00:00

Hi! From my M4M queue~ Modding the two difficulties that you said you remapped.

[Hard]

00:28:271 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You use a lot of circular motion with your previous patterns. This one's a bit... out of place. The overlap doesn't play that well imo. Consider rotating 00:29:306 (3,4,5) - I think you can work this circular pattern into 00:30:340 (6,7) - better.
01:07:582 (3) - I really think a slider fits better here... How about Ctrl+G 01:07:582 (3,4) - in time line? I think you could even extend the slider a bit more. I understand you are mapping to the drums but 3 is a strong beat that should warrant a slider

. It also plays better in tandem with the vocals without feeling like you are completely foregoing one (vocals or drums) for the other. Please consider this! I've made mention to this a few other times.
01:13:099 (3,4) - ^
01:29:880 (3) - Doesn't really map to anything imo... How about extending 01:29:651 (2) - to a slider?
01:46:892 (3,4) - Check blanket.
01:50:340 (6,7) - The beats here are totally different from what you've been mapping to before... How about a different pattern rather than the circular blanket pattern you've been using?
02:02:409 (2) - Slider? Like 02:03:099 (4,5) - . This pattern was really nice.
02:24:823 (2,3) - Same pattern as 01:07:582 (3,4)
02:46:202 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is inconsistent with the echo at 02:48:961 (1,2,3,4) - . I found the echo played much better. The spaced circles at 02:46:202 (1,2,3,4) - were underwhelming xP.
02:50:570 (6,7,8,9) - How about using short repeat sliders here to map the wobble (whatever you call it, I think you know what i mean).
03:08:616 (2,3,4,5) - Make them consistent? I find the sliders play better, but up to you.
03:19:995 (3,4) - Same as 01:07:582 (3,4)
03:25:513 (3,4) - ^

[Normal]

01:06:892 (1) - You could extend this to a slider to map out 01:07:237 - . I don't think this would compromise any difficulty concerns.
01:12:409 (1) - ^
01:28:961 (1,2) - How about this rhythm instead?
01:39:995 (1) - Could extend this to a slider too, since the beat is held.
01:45:513 (1) - ^
02:57:237 (1) - Extend to map 02:57:582 - ? I didn't point out a lot of these patterns in previous sections because the 2nd beat wasn't as noticeable as this one. Since this is the final chorus, consider mapping this pattern into sliders rather than spaced circles to emphasize the final Kiai and add some more variety? I don't think this compromises a difficulty increase either. Your call, I'm sure you know where the patterns are so I won't bother listing in case you disagree.

Nicely mapped with a very consistent rhythm.

Squichu

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Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2015-02-11T07:34:28+00:00

Thank you!
~~I'm on my phone right now, will reply later!~~

monstrata

monstrata wrote:
Hi! From my M4M queue~ Modding the two difficulties that you said you remapped.
hi there! >w< I'll get to your maps asap (so hopefully this evening)!

[Hard]

00:28:271 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You use a lot of circular motion with your previous patterns. This one's a bit... out of place. The overlap doesn't play that well imo. Consider rotating 00:29:306 (3,4,5) - I think you can work this circular pattern into 00:30:340 (6,7) - better.
ye, I changed the whole pattern. not like you suggested but should play better now
01:07:582 (3) - I really think a slider fits better here... How about Ctrl+G 01:07:582 (3,4) - in time line? I think you could even extend the slider a bit more. I understand you are mapping to the drums but 3 is a strong beat that should warrant a slider . It also plays better in tandem with the vocals without feeling like you are completely foregoing one (vocals or drums) for the other. Please consider this! I've made mention to this a few other times.
dunno if I changed it exactly like you meant, but changed with following pattern ovo
01:13:099 (3,4) - ^ altenated, but not with a slider, cause variety :3
01:29:880 (3) - Doesn't really map to anything imo... How about extending 01:29:651 (2) - to a slider? didn't use a slider, but removed 3 and alternated pattern around it so it should work better now
01:46:892 (3,4) - Check blanket. refined
01:50:340 (6,7) - The beats here are totally different from what you've been mapping to before... How about a different pattern rather than the circular blanket pattern you've been using?
I like the current pattern very veeery much (not noticeable at all, haha.. xD x: ...) so I'll keep it for now.
02:02:409 (2) - Slider? Like 02:03:099 (4,5) - . This pattern was really nice. I'll think about it, the current rhythm works better for me ;_;
02:24:823 (2,3) - Same pattern as 01:07:582 (3,4) ye, it's a similat pattern but since the emphasis isn't the same I changed this differently (much simpler)
02:46:202 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is inconsistent with the echo at 02:48:961 (1,2,3,4) - . I found the echo played much better. The spaced circles at 02:46:202 (1,2,3,4) - were underwhelming xP.
I feel like the circles match better, but I'll keep it in mind!
02:50:570 (6,7,8,9) - How about using short repeat sliders here to map the wobble (whatever you call it, I think you know what i mean).
ye, I know what you mean, but I don't think it matches very well, cause the song's so soft. (also, I'd have to worry about the spread if I make this any harder.. xp )
03:08:616 (2,3,4,5) - Make them consistent? I find the sliders play better, but up to you. changed 3 but didn't touch 4, sounds better to me '_'
03:19:995 (3,4) - Same as 01:07:582 (3,4) keeping this for now
03:25:513 (3,4) - ^ ^

[Normal]

01:06:892 (1) - You could extend this to a slider to map out 01:07:237 - . I don't think this would compromise any difficulty concerns.
I'd prefer to kepp it as it is cause the vocals are more dominant here and two circles match them better than slider plus circle.
I'll keep it in mind, tho, maybe others will suggest the same.
01:12:409 (1) - ^ ^ >w<
01:28:961 (1,2) - How about this rhythm instead?
the idea is good, but the tick change between these two sliders is very very hard to read and this is the easiest difficulty. I don't want to confuse players like this. (if the rhythm were used more constatly I'd definitely go for that, but sadly it's only used this one time. >-< )
01:39:995 (1) - Could extend this to a slider too, since the beat is held. okay
01:45:513 (1) - ^ okay
02:57:237 (1) - Extend to map 02:57:582 - ? I didn't point out a lot of these patterns in previous sections because the 2nd beat wasn't as noticeable as this one. Since this is the final chorus, consider mapping this pattern into sliders rather than spaced circles to emphasize the final Kiai and add some more variety? I don't think this compromises a difficulty increase either. Your call, I'm sure you know where the patterns are so I won't bother listing in case you disagree.
I agree that I could map these breaks for variety, it's still playable, but I disagree about difficulty. the little breaks in between objects give the diff a more relaxed feeling overall and I don't wanna stress players out by making the last chorus harder than the previous ones, especially for beginner players it could become a small challenge to hit that many objects without a single break.

Nicely mapped with a very consistent rhythm.

updated!

Zetera

Medal Hunter

1,019 posts

Joined November 2010

Zetera 2015-02-11T22:12:22+00:00

Hi, thought I'd give that a quick overlook.

[General]

Is this just because of my skin settings because I don't use a custom reversearrow? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2745849 I can barely see it (default).
To prevent this from happening, add a custom arrow or lower the combo colour brightness a little.

[Normal]

|02:37:926 (1,2,3) - 3 is killing the flow here, even if the impact is just small. When you start the slider here, you'd intuitively expect a general movement to the upper left corner.But the slider goes somewhere else. You could try something anchor-like to make this work.

Suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2745923

Sorry, this diff is really solid and close to my mapping style, so I can't say more..

[Hard]

|Maybe you want to turn down the CS a little, the circles look pretty small, probably because of the hitcircles' rims.
|01:01:375 (1) - Wanna curve this for making a blanket with 00:59:995 (5) - ?
|02:56:547 (7,8) - No direct mistake here, but I think it would be better if you used a circle for 7 instead of a slider and used a double of circles up to the point of time of circle 8. It creates a nice little "temperature rise" and leads in the kiai.
|02:59:651 (7,1,2,3) - Is there a way to make that into a better-looking square?

[Zero's Insane]

|00:15:742 (4) - I believe there is a drum-hitwhistle missing here. Interestingly used those, by the way.

Nope, nothing else. I like the usage of flow/anti-flow, nicely used. Also, spacing has been fine and reasonable. No major issues to be found.

Well, that was most likely the tinies mod I've ever done. I hope I could still help a bit. Good luck!

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2015-02-11T22:25:45+00:00

Thanks, Sala-! :3
~~Ich geh nu schlafen und fix die map morgen.. >w<~~

Sala

Sala- wrote:
Hi, thought I'd give that a quick overlook. Yay! \o/

[General]

Is this just because of my skin settings because I don't use a custom reversearrow?
Aah, right. I probably should give the arrow a black border as well ~
going to change it (in a few days cause I don't have ps on this comp..)!

[Normal]

|02:37:926 (1,2,3) - 3 is killing the flow here, even if the impact is just small. When you start the slider here, you'd intuitively expect a general movement to the upper left corner.But the slider goes somewhere else. You could try something anchor-like to make this work.

Suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2745923
yup, nice idea! I went with a different shape, tho

Sorry, this diff is really solid and close to my mapping style, so I can't say more..

[Hard]

|Maybe you want to turn down the CS a little, the circles look pretty small, probably because of the hitcircles' rims.
Let me think about that for a while, I'm not sure if I want to increase size. it works fine as it is now and, imo, provides more clarity than bigger circles. they make the playfield seem more stuffed and considering the objects are pretty close to each other.. meh. I'll definitely think about that!
|01:01:375 (1) - Wanna curve this for making a blanket with 00:59:995 (5) - ?
I'd love to! but it goes offscreen then.. :c
|02:56:547 (7,8) - No direct mistake here, but I think it would be better if you used a circle for 7 instead of a slider and used a double of circles up to the point of time of circle 8. It creates a nice little "temperature rise" and leads in the kiai.
nice idea, changed!
|02:59:651 (7,1,2,3) - Is there a way to make that into a better-looking square? yep :3 changed

Well, that was most likely the tinies mod I've ever done. I hope I could still help a bit. Good luck!
You did, thank you! >w<

Last edited by Squichu 2015-02-12T14:40:03+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Mao

Elite Mapper II

2,963 posts

Joined December 2012

Mao 2015-02-11T22:31:18+00:00

Das lebt wieder? Das Lied ist so toll.

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2015-02-12T11:31:02+00:00

Sala- wrote:
[Zero's Insane]

|00:15:742 (4) - I believe there is a drum-hitwhistle missing here. Interestingly used those, by the way. yes nice catch!

Nope, nothing else. I like the usage of flow/anti-flow, nicely used. Also, spacing has been fine and reasonable. No major issues to be found.

Well, that was most likely the tinies mod I've ever done. I hope I could still help a bit. Good luck!

thanks for modding~

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Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2015-02-12T14:41:56+00:00

fixed Sala-'s mod. (reply's up above! >w<)

Mao wrote:
Das lebt wieder? Das Lied ist so toll.

Yeeeeeep, tut es! \o/

updated all diffs!
edit: updated skin! (thank you, GIMP)
edit2: changed background (only for my diffs)
edit3: changed backgroudn again (orz)

Ranger

939 posts

Joined June 2011

Ranger 2015-02-15T06:39:58+00:00

yup o/

[General]

00:11:719 ~ 00:43:444 , 01:17:926 ~ 01:49:651 - no hitsound at drum sound? if you don`t like normal clap sound, try use this

[Normal]

01:07:926 (3) - how about remove 1 receive? like this
01:13:444 (3) - well..same reason, just add one circle at 01:13:788
Ex
01:17:926 (1) - add finish instead whistle? i think it much better
01:28:961 (1) - add finish at behind

[Hard]

01:42:409 (5) - how about make that just one circle?
01:56:087 (6) - spacing error a litte (recommend move to x:404 y:52)

[Zero's Insane]

01:39:995 (1) - hmm...how about make like this?
Ex
02:36:892 (5) - how about make same angle at 02:36:547 (4)?

go to BN :p
Good luck for Rank~

Sieg

3,981 posts

Joined February 2012

Sieg 2015-02-15T09:35:12+00:00

hellow, sorry for the delay ;_;

[General]

You sure you wan to keep 2 backgrounds? Because it's strange to keep one bg for 2 diffs and another for one more even if this is gd.
I don't like how you use SliderTrackOverride, what's the point in overriding slider body color?
Your CC6 and CC7 is way too similar, consider to make CC6 a bit more lighter.
Since you use sliderscorepoint.png I guess you should include complete Slider skin set.
Turn off widescreen support.

[Normal]

01:19:306 (2) - NC here
01:28:961 (1) - I don't like the shape of this slider, yep it's trying to follow music, but eh..
01:34:478 (1,3) - make 1 by copy-pasting 3
01:40:685 (2) - maybe replace this with some kind of wave slider http://puu.sh/fWhF1/69a9591df7.jpg seems more suitable to vocals
02:31:030 (4) - better to curve this one vice versa for better flow
03:08:961 (3,5) - make them parallel
03:17:237 (2) - move this up a bit
03:39:306 (2) - curve this more, preferably like 03:31:030 (3)
Generally: if you use a lot of one type curve sliders, making them similar by copy-pasting will look more polished.

[Hard]

00:23:444 (2,3) - this jump is too forced, since you usually use only 1.3x DS
Can't really catch all this 1\6 rhythms, such a pain for me, well, anyway the main issue here is that difficulty gap is too big between Normal-Hard. This is mostly because rhythm density and usage of 1\6. Think about tone down rhythm oh hard or make more complex on normal.
Also, take a note that rhythms on "long" lyrics parts like 01:02:064 (2,3,4,5) - is even harder than on insane here

[Zero's Insane]

Like this one, plays well and really clear. Nothing to suggest.

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2015-02-15T11:35:43+00:00

thanks, you two! >w<
I'll reply in detail later!

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2015-02-15T15:37:56+00:00

Ranger wrote:
[Zero's Insane]

01:39:995 (1) - hmm...how about make like this? don't think I want such twisted flow here
02:36:892 (5) - how about make same angle at 02:36:547 (4)? currently looks good already

Sieg wrote:
[Zero's Insane]
Like this one, plays well and really clear. Nothing to suggest. :3

thanks for mod~

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2015-02-15T19:08:17+00:00

Ranger

Ranger wrote:
yup o/ o/

[General]
00:11:719 ~ 00:43:444 , 01:17:926 ~ 01:49:651 - no hitsound at drum sound? if you don`t like normal clap sound, try use this
added whistle+finish to first spinner in Normal, sounds okay, but not in Hard cause it ends on a different beat there~
abou the others - I prefer to keep them quiet cause that matches the melody best. but if more people point that out, I'll think about what to do!
[Normal]
01:07:926 (3) - how about remove 1 receive? like this
prefer to keep this, cause it sounds really off to me if this is empty. ;-;
01:13:444 (3) - well..same reason, just add one circle at 01:13:788
same here! >-<
I changed up the rhythm slightly, so sliders won't start on the upbeat now!
01:17:926 (1) - add finish instead whistle? i think it much better added, but left whistle too, sounds better to me
01:28:961 (1) - add finish at behind yup, changed!
applied both changes to Hard as well
[Hard]
01:42:409 (5) - how about make that just one circle?
01:56:087 (6) - spacing error a litte (recommend move to x:404 y:52)
fixed both!
go to BN :p I'll do that when the set's okay, it's not ready yet ;_;
Good luck for Rank~ Thank you! :3

Sieg

Sieg wrote:
hellow, sorry for the delay ;_; hi there! >w< no worries, I'm not in a rush. and mods are appreciated anytime ~

[General]
You sure you wan to keep 2 backgrounds? Because it's strange to keep one bg for 2 diffs and another for one more even if this is gd.
yep, I'm pretty sure. I prefer the star themed background, that also matches with the skin. and I won't force someone to change bg just cause I like it better. ofc Zero can change it anytime if he wants to, but I'm fine with having two :3
I don't like how you use SliderTrackOverride, what's the point in overriding slider body color?
No particular reason, really. That's how I imagined the skin when I made it and it looks nice to me. and that also makes the slidertrack more noticeable when the combo's are grey. ;w;
Your CC6 and CC7 is way too similar, consider to make CC6 a bit more lighter.
sure, changed in all diffs!
Since you use sliderscorepoint.png I guess you should include complete Slider skin set.
I can't find sliderscorepoint in any skin set, tho? D: I just made this cause of the slidertrack colour, the default one wasn't really noticeable.. so I thought it was fine to not skin other elements? Ofc I can add the default ones, but I don't see any point in that cause sliderscorepoint doesn't interfere with any other skin elements. (so I'll probably add that in the next few days.)
Turn off widescreen support.
whoops.. turned it off (again orz)
[Normal]
01:19:306 (2) - NC here I wanna keep NCs on downbeats, also followpoint is nice to have in between, makes it easier to get to the next object
01:28:961 (1) - I don't like the shape of this slider, yep it's trying to follow music, but eh.. I like the shape, but made all parts straight, for now ~ :n
01:34:478 (1,3) - make 1 by copy-pasting 3 wanted them to be different, looks more interesting to me
01:40:685 (2) - maybe replace this with some kind of wave slider http://puu.sh/fWhF1/69a9591df7.jpg seems more suitable to vocals only made it less edged for now
02:31:030 (4) - better to curve this one vice versa for better flow okay
03:08:961 (3,5) - make them parallel changed rhythm previously so yah, they're kinda parallel now anyway xD
03:17:237 (2) - move this up a bit why? it flows nicely and doesn't go affscreen either ;w;
03:39:306 (2) - curve this more, preferably like 03:31:030 (3) okay
Generally: if you use a lot of one type curve sliders, making them similar by copy-pasting will look more polished.
I usually do, but in the end I adjust some pixels and suddenly it looks all different.. xD I definitely should pay more attention to that, but meh ~ >-<
[Hard]
00:23:444 (2,3) - this jump is too forced, since you usually use only 1.3x DS changed to standard DS
Can't really catch all this 1\6 rhythms, such a pain for me, well, anyway the main issue here is that difficulty gap is too big between Normal-Hard. This is mostly because rhythm density and usage of 1\6. Think about tone down rhythm oh hard or make more complex on normal.
personally I didn't think the gap's that big. :/ 1/6 notes are too hard for Nomal (imo) so I left them out, but not mapping them in Hard feels just wrong to me. x_x kinda empty. guess I'll have to think of something but I honestly don't know how I can simplify the rhythm without making it play weird. -> I'll fix that once I have an idea about what to do!
Also, take a note that rhythms on "long" lyrics parts like 01:02:064 (2,3,4,5) - is even harder than on insane here
I changed the one you mentioned and will look at the rest in a few days. >-<

Aaah, thanks a lot to you two! wasn't able to fix everything yet, but I'll do that as soon as I can. :3
updated!

riffy

osu! Alumni

8,060 posts

Joined December 2010

riffy 2015-02-21T14:09:43+00:00

Hello ~~heartache~~

[General]

Is there a reason to keep it in WiP?
D-d-did you really make the BG? This is great, like really great. I am in love with it. ♥

Can we have softer combo colours? The bright ones seem too agressive and might feel uncomfortable for players' eyes.

Alternative

[Colours]
Combo1 : 160,160,160
Combo2 : 198,175,168
Combo3 : 243,234,177
Combo4 : 128,164,179
Combo5 : 115,151,247
Combo6 : 208,216,190
SliderBorder : 90,90,90
SliderTrackOverride : 255,255,255

[Normal]

02:24:823 (2,3) - I can clearly hear that vocals begin on the white tick and fade out on the red one. Why don't we just replace these two circles with a slider? This would follow the song closer.
03:25:513 (2,3) - select them and hit Ctrl+G, it'll swap them on the timeline and make them match better with the vocals. Don't forget to fix their placement afterwards.

I'm in love with the diff. ♥

[Hard]

00:10:685 - can we end the spinner earlier? For a relaxing song, it's quite reasonable to make the after-spinner gap a little longer.
00:13:099 (3,4) - 1/3 gap here feels tricky, why don' we replace it with a slider? Just for the beginning of the diff, so players will get the idea of your rhythm.
01:24:708 (3) - 01:25:742 (5) - 01:30:225 (4) - I see the reason why you place them, but if we remove them, the beats on following ticks become better-emphasized and the whole rhythm feels more natural. This is just a Hard diff and the song is relaxing, let's keep it simple.

I would try to simplify calm parts a little. As the amount of 1/6 makes me a little unsure, but everything else looks great. ♥

[Zero's Insane]
Just a question: why don't you use the same BG as the rest of the set?

00:36:202 (1,2) - might be just me, but I'd rather ake the sliders 1/6 shorter and place circles on the white ticks. So, the beats are stressed and sliders are not curved in an unnatural way.
03:03:444 (3,4) - minor - can we move them just a little down? (4) overlaps with the progress-bar/score. (4:3 display)

Nicely done!

Find me when you're ready.

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2015-02-22T10:40:55+00:00

-Bakari- wrote:
[Zero's Insane]
Just a question: why don't you use the same BG as the rest of the set? the one for my diff is the original one lol. maybe just get rid of it
00:36:202 (1,2) - might be just me, but I'd rather ake the sliders 1/6 shorter and place circles on the white ticks. So, the beats are stressed and sliders are not curved in an unnatural way. hmm it's like either is ok to me. I remember that I made these sliders because there's no beat at 00:37:122 - , no change for this point I guess
03:03:444 (3,4) - minor - can we move them just a little down? (4) overlaps with the progress-bar/score. (4:3 display) ok fixed!

Nicely done!

thanks for your mod!

code

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Squichu

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Squichu 2015-02-22T18:14:16+00:00

aah, thank you, Bakari!
~~I'll get to this asap.. (hopfeully find the time in the next few days) >-<~~
I'll update Zero's diff after I fixed mine, too!

Bakari

-Bakari- wrote:
Hello ~~heartache~~ hi! >w<

[General]
Is there a reason to keep it in WiP? whoops, must have uploaded it to wip instead D: gonna upload it to pending with update!
D-d-did you really make the BG? This is great, like really great. I am in love with it. ♥ Thank you! ;w; makes me happy when people like it!
Can we have softer combo colours? The bright ones seem too agressive and might feel uncomfortable for players' eyes. Colours aren't displayed correctly here, so I'll change them when I'm home. but I think I'll just tone down my set of colours, I prefer the blue-yellow contrast 'w'
[Normal]
02:24:823 (2,3) - I can clearly hear that vocals begin on the white tick and fade out on the red one. Why don't we just replace these two circles with a slider? This would follow the song closer.
03:25:513 (2,3) - select them and hit Ctrl+G, it'll swap them on the timeline and make them match better with the vocals. Don't forget to fix their placement afterwards.
changed both!

I'm in love with the diff. ♥
[Hard]
00:10:685 - can we end the spinner earlier? For a relaxing song, it's quite reasonable to make the after-spinner gap a little longer. sure
00:13:099 (3,4) - 1/3 gap here feels tricky, why don' we replace it with a slider? Just for the beginning of the diff, so players will get the idea of your rhythm. alright, changed
01:24:708 (3) - 01:25:742 (5) - 01:30:225 (4) - I see the reason why you place them, but if we remove them, the beats on following ticks become better-emphasized and the whole rhythm feels more natural. This is just a Hard diff and the song is relaxing, let's keep it simple. okay

I would try to simplify calm parts a little. As the amount of 1/6 makes me a little unsure, but everything else looks great. ♥
Ye, I've looked at the diff a few times with your and Sieg's comments in mind and I think I get where it gets tricky. I removed some notes and adjusted some rhythms to make these 'calm' parts a little easier, but I didn't change anything in the livelier (colourful/Kiai) parts (yet). I have to look at this a few more times to make sure it's not totally messed up.. >-<
Find me when you're ready.
gotta change some things up first. 'w'

I also added a completed Slider Skin Set, as Sieg pointed that out.

@Zero
It's totally up to you with the background! if you prefer the original one you can keep that in your diff, I'm fine with having more than one bg in a set.
(I can change it for you too if you want. just tell me wherever!

)

going to update when I'm home. can't connect to bancho from school. :C
edit - updated, still need to fix some things
edit2 - updated again, everything should be fixed now >w<

Zero__wind

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Zero__wind 2015-02-25T08:15:29+00:00

I think I prefer to keep the original one, hope it's not so weird though

Squichu

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Squichu 2015-02-25T11:40:05+00:00

it's totally fine! :3
~~most people play with 100% dim anyway, who cares?~~

riffy

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riffy 2015-02-26T09:26:12+00:00

Squirrel wrote:
who cares?

I do, and I'll recheck it pretty soon.

[General]

Don't you feel like sliderpoint10.png and sliderpoint30.png are missing from the skin. According to the list they should be here. Confirm it with a QAT?
Try using two gray colors instead? Or make colors 5 and 6 more distinguishable. They look nearly the same.

[Normal]

02:06:547 (4) - minor - mind moving it a little higher? It nearly gets overlapped with the "Online Users" button. :c
03:17:237 (2) - minor - and again, move it a little higher in order to prevent overlaps with user-interace. (score-meter)

[Hard]

02:42:064 (3,4) - minor - same with Normal. Just move them a little higher, please.

And the final confirmation: are you sure about the SliderTrackOverride?

Let me know.

Edit: yeah, they're

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Squichu

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Squichu 2015-02-26T15:42:08+00:00

-Bakari- wrote:
Squirrel wrote:
who cares?
I do, and I'll recheck it pretty soon.

I hope you appreciate backgroud variety then.. \o/ :b
nah, but seriously. different backgrounds are fine, aren't they? D:

__________________________________________________________________________

aaaaalright. I'm so slow, I'm sorry. ;__; //buries herself
- added sliderspoint10 + 30 to skin
- adjusted combocolours in all diffs (sorry, Zero. I didn't ask, but it was fine before, so I figured it's okay to tweak grey colours.. >-< )
- moved all objects so they won't overlap with user-intreface (hopefully)

and yes, I am sure about SliderTrack Override. :3
updated!

riffy

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riffy 2015-03-02T16:40:16+00:00

I'm literally crying. The song, skin and BGs, everything matches perfectly. That's what I call an amazing set. Great job!

Bubbled!