Avril Lavigne - Hello Heartache · forum

Squichu

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-09-08T16:30:15+00:00

Thanks, you two. <3
I'll reply in detail later on (as always.. orz). *w*

Chaoslitz wrote:
NM From my queue

Hard
00:16:203 (6,7,8) - Move it upper, it stacks with 00:15:513 (4,5) okay
00:32:294 (3,4) - Move it closer since it has a low BPM but it's just the standard DS? .o. it might get confusing if I move it even closer cause it's mapped on 1/6.
00:32:639 (5,6) - ^ ^
01:28:961 (1,1) - Nice ;D Thanks? owo
03:13:099 (4) - For a better flow

sure
03:39:306 (1) - Move slightly, for better blanket moved a few pixels!

Nice map ;D, I like those blanket combos :3
Thanks! ;w; I like them too.. xD

Krfawy

Krfawy wrote:
Hello Sweetie! Checking for you. :3 Thanks thanks thaaaanks. <3 QwQ

General
I am just wondering if you could make the 7th combo colour a bit darker because now the last one and the very previous one are very similar. Yah, sure. owo
Normal
01:04:823 (1) - I am not sure if the very end of the slider wasn't meant to include a whistle. Now I just feel it makes it a bit inconsistent when we compare it to the whole kiai. added!
01:29:651 (3) - At the very moment here's a clap when at a Hard diff there's a finish. I recommend to make it the same in both of them, probably with finish only or with both of them. added Normal-finish here owo
02:09:305 (3,4) - I just feel more comfortable when there is something like a circle and a head of the slider than 2 circles in a Normal diff. But it's just my opinion because I know there are many ways of that tricking. xD probably true, moved 3 so it stacks with sliderhead now
02:11:030 (1,2) - And I am not sure but it just feels empty without a whistle somewhere here. I know you made it to emphasize 02:12:410 (3) but now it just feels a bit empty. addeeed
03:35:857 (1) - Because you used the finish at the same moments, I think it'd make it more consistent if you'd use a finish at the head of the slider too because now it's not consistent. added as well ;w;
Hard
02:07:237 (5,3) - You probably made a mistake when hitsounding those moments. Wasn't a finish meant to be placed at (5) slider instead of the (3)? xD nice catch! I wonder why I suck with hitsounding THAT hard, srsly. I'd never have noticed!
03:41:030 (4) - How about making a 2/6 slider instead of the circle here? Now I just feel a little emptiness here since it would match the percussion. okay. owo
Well I don't think there's something wrong in Insane diff. Sometimes I just don't like the way it's hitsounded with drum whistles but it's just my personal opinion because everybody has own style of hitsounding and I am not a big fan of drum samplesets. But yeah it sounds pretty nice. And the whole mapset is nice to play.

Find a BAT soon, please! I know you can do it! ;w;
I hope I can do it. ;~; I'm slooowly running out of motivation. XD

Thanks again. QwQ
updated!

Mao

Elite Mapper II

2,963 posts

Joined December 2012

Mao 2014-09-14T14:12:14+00:00

Yuzu- requested this per ingame-PM~

Unrankable Issue/Highly Suggested
Comment/Minor

General

Uncheck Widescreensupport and Letterbox in Breaks as long as you aren't getting a cool 16:9 SB ;3
Nothing you have to do but giving your grey colors a slightly blue touch would be pretty nice as the BG actually lacks grey. Example
According to the RC which says that you need complete Sets Skinned and you've Skinned the Hitcircle Set you also need a reversearrow.png :V Source
Skinning wrote:
Hitcircle set
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reversearrow.png

Normal

Schau dir mal Zero's Hitsounding an. Ich find das Normal Sampleset passt so viel besser zu dem Lied als die soft clap, weil die claps im lied einfach näher an das Normal-Hitnormal rankommen. Das muss überarbeitet werden imo.
00:08:961 (1) - Mach den Spinner um 1/2 kürzer. Ich finde das passt viel besser aufgrund des Geräusches da und außerdem würdest du dem Spieler mehr Reaktionszeit geben.
00:58:271 (5,1,2) - Das hier spielt sich recht verkrampft, weil der Übergang zwischen 1 und 2 im Prinzip komplett horizontal erfolgt, was die Kurve nicht sehr unterstützt. Sowas würde sich hier wesentlich flüssiger spielen.
01:15:857 (7,1,2,3) - Ein Spinner für Consistency mit der Hard wäre schön hier. Ist aber nicht notwendig, wolltes nur erwähnen :p
01:26:202 (3,4,1) - Ich weiß, dass das alles Blankets sind, aber ich find es hat sich nicht sonderlich gut gespielt, weil für mich der Übergang in die 4 den Flow ein wenig breakt. Irgendetwas wie [urll=http://puu.sh/byVhx/a7f9b19186.jpg] das hier[/url] würde zwar ein wenig rearranging erfordern, sich dafür aber deutlich besser flowen.
02:40:685 (1) - /Minor/ - Versuche mal den vorletzten Anchor ein wenig hochzuverschieben, damit dir Kurve schöner wird und zu dem anderen Slider passt. Example
02:49:651 (2) - Meiner Meinung nach spielt es sich nicht sonderlich gut wie die Kurve in 1 übergeht, weil das alles sehr harsch wirkt. Deshalb würde ihr eher soetwas machen :3
Ich mag die Struktur und das Aussehen. Flow ist auch gut, aber braucht hier und da noch ein wenig Polishing. Ich mag es nicht bei 00:58:271 (5) - (und den anderen in den anderen Kiais), wie sie auf dem großen Downbeat enden, weil der hier echt betont sein müsste imo. Bei den Spinnern vorm Chorus frage ich nochmal rum, weil das mit der Recovery Time mittlerweile strenger betrachtet wird :/

Hard

Ich find AR6~6,5 passt viel besser zum Spread und auch gut zur recht langsamen map.
OD und HP sind recht hoch verglichen zur Normal. Probier 5,5 bei beiden.
Das selbe, was ich in der Normal zum Hitsounding gesagt habe gilt hier selbstverständlich auch.
Gehe deine Map durch und versuche Overlaps mit der HP-Bar wie beispielsweise 00:46:202 (3,4,5) - zu vermeiden. Das sieht meist unschön aus und ist hinderlich beim spielen :/
Unsnapped Objects:
00:56:202 (1) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:56:547 (2) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:56:892 (3) - Unsnapped slider (end).
01:53:099 (5) - Unsnapped slider (end).
00:24:478 (6) - Ich find, dass es sich komisch anfühlt die Vocals auf 00:24:708 - zu ignorieren weil die an sich auch eine Art build-up zu dem upbeat sind. Bitte nimm nen 1/3 Slider :<
00:27:811 (6) - Hm, ich bin mir nicht sicher ob ein 1/6 Slider soeine gute Idee ist, weil er mich schon ziemlich verwirrt hat :/ Ich würde eher ein 1/6-Double wie bei den anderen nehmen.
00:32:639 (5,6) - Solch hohes Spacing bei einfachen Doubles spielt sich immer komisch imo. Probier bei diesen Doubles einfach mal 1,0 aus. Das spielt sich viel besser und sieht auch schöner aus, wenn du mich fragst (: Example
00:39:306 (7,1) - Ich weiß schon was du hier folgst, aber die Lücke fühlt sich total leer an imo. Sowas wär hier total schön als build-up auch für die Vocals :3 (Same applies for 01:45:513 (7,1) - )
00:52:064 (4,7) - /Minor/ - Stack die beiden hier damit es einmal ums Dreieck drumherum geht. Der overlap so ist noch sichtbar was es ein wenig untidy erscheinend lässt.
01:07:926 (3) - Was genau folgst du mit dem? Der dominante Rhythm spiel sich hier für mich eindeutig auf den lila Ticks ab, sodass sich das hier irgendwie komisch anhört. Sowas passt hier auch durch den Hold der Vocals sehr schön hin imo. Selbiges gilt für 01:13:099 (2,3,4) - . (Nach der letzten Kiai find ichs okay, weil davor die Density höher ist, was den 1/2 Slider irgendwie einleitet)
01:29:651 (1) - Der Circle hat mich durch den Overlap mit 01:28:616 (8) - total verwirrt und ich hab gemisst. 155|155 wär intuitiver, vor allem auch durch die Richtung, die 01:28:961 (1) - angibt.
02:33:099 (1) - Hm, der Winkel hier spielt sich ziemlich gezwungen finde ich, weil ich von der nicht so sehr schrägen Linie jetzt direkt nach links muss. Intuitiver wärs durch die Richtung der Linie eher, wenns leicht nach rechts oder leicht nach links geht.
02:35:168 (1,2) - Nur ne Idee, nichts was du applien musst; Ich fänds ziemlich cool, wenn das mit rotierten Slidern gemacht wär, da ich finde, dass der grade und der Runde hier nicht sooo gut zusammen passen. Example
02:58:616 (4) - Das würde sich so viel flüssiger spielen, wenns so wäre, weil so einfach der Übergang von der Kurve in den Slider direkt gegeben wäre ohne jeglichen Flow zu brechen.
03:01:375 (2,4) - Es ist noch sichtbar wie die beiden sich berühren, was das ganze ein wenig untidy aussehen lässt. Versuche das zu vermeiden.
An sich ganz gut, es fehlt mir hier und da noch ein wenig das Aufgeräumte aber der Flow ist großteils echt gut. Es wär schön, wenn du für 1/6 ein konstantes 1,00~1,10er Spacing ebnutzen würdest, aber das sind sicher nur meine Vorzüge :3

Zero's Insane

Is C7 as Sampleset intentional to just use the default ones or are there files missing? If it's just for the default ones, I'd use the actual default ones as it's pretty confusing for modders lel
The Density in the Section starting at 02:24:133 - is even higher in the Normal. I also feel like this rhythm is pretty weird as you are ignoring so many important beats both in terms of vocals and drums like 02:24:823 - for instance. The Section also palyed very confusing to this for me at least counter-intuitive rhythm :/
00:41:719 (4,5) - This jump feels way too high here which makes it overdone in my eyes. Aming this is a struggle for me causing a kinda forced unpleasant feeling. Therefore please lower the DS (stacking with 00:40:340 (5) - 's head could work as well).
00:54:133 (1,3) - /Comment/ - I'm not really sure what to think about this as it's pretty cool but still feels kinda out of order compared to the map's structure. This would fit the overall appearance better. If you want to keep it I'd still adjust it a bit so that 3 overlaps 1's head completely to make it look a bit cleaner.
01:35:513 (1,2) - The low spacing here doesn't really work imo. First of all I think the turn provided by 2 needs a faster movement from the previous object into it to feel smooth. Also the emphasis on 2 would be better with this. Example
02:00:340 (1,2) - It would be pretty neat to see these two arranged like a circle. Just an idea though, feel free to deny~
02:51:605 (9,1) - The flow between these notes feels very forced and counter-intuitive to me which makes me often miss/break here. The main problem is the direction you are facing into with the the stream and then rapidly turn down with such a jump. Therefore please try something like this for example.
Overall a pretty nice, creative Diff! Good job :3

It still needs a few more mods before I consider this as ready as there are in my opinion still some fairly big issues here and there :/

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2014-09-15T13:39:38+00:00

hello Mao, couldn't "Reply"

hitsound: it's C:17, all default actually though, because I love that number~

rhythm density: meaningless to compare between diffs when they're not made by the same person. my rhythm does followed a track I'd call it "background melody". (I'm bad at music so idk how to express that) I made it that way because I want to show different ways a single song could be presented and performed. and also I love how the drum sliderticks sound in that part

others all fixed except "the RED one". as I don't think it plays bad, better than your solution, and it also looks pretty nice as it keeps their symmetry. as long as I think it's not anything unrankable I would not feel like to change it. if players can't DT it's not my fault. (they actually can, for sure)

thx for your mod

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360,180,207926,1,0,1:0:0:0:
180,48,208271,2,0,L|60:28,1,112,8|2,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
28,144,208846,1,2,0:0:0:0:
40,172,208961,6,0,P|64:207|96:228,1,74.6666666666667,2|2,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,280,209306,2,0,P|120:296|88:328,1,112,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
160,184,209880,1,0,1:0:0:0:
180,160,209995,2,0,P|192:120|188:88,1,74.6666666666667,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
192,280,210340,53,4,1:2:0:0:
368,376,210685,2,0,P|416:360|440:340,1,74.6666666666667,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
440,224,211031,2,0,P|480:228|512:244,1,74.6666666666667,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
364,280,211375,2,0,P|348:236|348:204,1,74.6666666666667,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
440,72,211719,6,0,P|466:99|480:136,1,74.6666666666667,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
336,140,212064,2,0,L|248:124,1,74.6666666666667,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
124,200,212409,2,0,P|176:224|240:208,1,112,8|2,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
320,100,212984,1,0,1:0:0:0:
292,112,213099,6,0,L|300:196,1,74.6666666666667,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,284,213444,2,0,L|215:209,1,74.6666666666667,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
316,200,213788,2,0,P|360:204|388:216,1,74.6666666666667,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,112,214133,2,0,P|164:116|136:128,1,74.6666666666667,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
36,196,214478,6,0,P|18:252|26:287,1,74.6666666666667,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
100,358,214823,2,0,P|117:305|110:250,1,112,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,112,215398,1,0,1:0:0:0:
180,100,215513,2,0,L|108:68,1,74.6666666666667,2|0,3:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
36,196,215857,54,0,P|80:172|128:168,1,74.6666666666667,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
208,112,216202,2,0,P|252:96|272:76,1,74.6666666666667,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
112,192,216547,2,0,P|124:240|148:280,1,74.6666666666667,8|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
244,216,216892,2,0,P|271:191|307:180,1,74.6666666666667,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
360,96,217237,5,2,0:0:0:0:
440,312,217467,1,0,0:0:0:0:
412,300,217582,2,0,P|392:240|408:192,1,112,0|8,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
320,12,218156,1,0,0:0:0:0:
352,12,218271,2,0,P|396:19|424:40,1,74.6666666666667,2|0,3:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
480,120,218616,5,0,1:0:0:0:
360,248,218846,1,0,0:0:0:0:
332,240,218961,2,0,P|296:240|256:252,1,74.6666666666667,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
172,188,219306,2,0,P|152:260|164:300,1,112,8|2,0:0|3:0,0:0:0:0:
332,344,219880,1,0,0:0:0:0:
351,320,219995,6,0,P|362:284|360:248,1,74.6666666666667,2|0,0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
340,136,220340,2,0,L|252:128,1,74.6666666666667,0|0,1:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
100,36,220685,2,0,L|76:124,1,74.6666666666667,8|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
168,168,221030,2,0,L|144:256,1,74.6666666666667,8|0,0:0|1:0,0:0:0:0:
200,332,221375,1,0,0:0:0:0:
256,192,221490,12,0,224478,0:0:0:0:

Squichu

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Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-09-15T13:54:22+00:00

Thanks a lot! Going to update & reply in detail later on! :3

edit
waiting with update til after Nichiyoukis post! ^w^

Mao

Mao wrote:
Yuzu- requested this per ingame-PM~
Thanks to him for doing that. ;w; <3
& thanks to you for modding. ~ :3

General
Uncheck Widescreensupport and Letterbox in Breaks as long as you aren't getting a cool 16:9 SB ;3 done
Nothing you have to do but giving your grey colors a slightly blue touch would be pretty nice as the BG actually lacks grey.
I tried that months ago but went with grey instead because it matches better with the other combo colours. plus greyish-blue looked too lively, which is also why I wanna use greyscales. I prefer the contrast between lively and liveless over the harmony with background colours.
According to the RC which says that you need complete Sets Skinned and you've Skinned the Hitcircle Set you also need a reversearrow.png :V
whops. I believed the reverse-arrow was seperated from hitcircles. added default one to song folder!

Normal
Schau dir mal Zero's Hitsounding an. Ich find das Normal Sampleset passt so viel besser zu dem Lied als die soft clap, weil die claps im lied einfach näher an das Normal-Hitnormal rankommen. Das muss überarbeitet werden imo.
Ich zieh die custom +soft Hitsounds ehrlich gesagt vor, vllt klingt das aber auch nur für mich besser. Ich guck mal was besser passt sobald ich weiß, wie genau ich's ändern will.
00:08:961 (1) - Mach den Spinner um 1/2 kürzer. Ich finde das passt viel besser aufgrund des Geräusches da und außerdem würdest du dem Spieler mehr Reaktionszeit geben.
Vom Geräusch her bin ich nich überzeugt, aber dass der Circle danach eventuell zu schnell kommt, stimmt. Hab deswegen den Spinner verlängert und die Circle rausgenommen.
00:58:271 (5,1,2) - Das hier spielt sich recht verkrampft, weil der Übergang zwischen 1 und 2 im Prinzip komplett horizontal erfolgt, was die Kurve nicht sehr unterstützt. Sowas würde sich hier wesentlich flüssiger spielen.
abgeändert, nur anders als im Beispiel, weil ich da die Bewegung von 4 zu 5 nich so angenehm fand
01:15:857 (7,1,2,3) - Ein Spinner für Consistency mit der Hard wäre schön hier. Ist aber nicht notwendig, wolltes nur erwähnen :p
war ursprünglich so. Hab ich aufgrund von Moddern aber ersetzt, da der Spinner + Reaktionszeit wohl zu kurz für die einfachste Diff waren. c:
01:26:202 (3,4,1) - Ich weiß, dass das alles Blankets sind, aber ich find es hat sich nicht sonderlich gut gespielt, weil für mich der Übergang in die 4 den Flow ein wenig breakt. Irgendetwas wie das hier würde zwar ein wenig rearranging erfordern, sich dafür aber deutlich besser flowen.
abgeändert, ziemlich genau wie im Beispiel
02:40:685 (1) - /Minor/ - Versuche mal den vorletzten Anchor ein wenig hochzuverschieben, damit dir Kurve schöner wird und zu dem anderen Slider passt. Example
okay
02:49:651 (2) - Meiner Meinung nach spielt es sich nicht sonderlich gut wie die Kurve in 1 übergeht, weil das alles sehr harsch wirkt. Deshalb würde ihr eher soetwas machen :3
das back-foth-stacking würd ich drin behalten wollen, einfach weil mir an der Stelle die Vocals extrem aufgefallen sind und es gut dazu passt, hab den Rest aber etwas umgeändert, ob's wesentlich besser is.. ~ xD
Ich mag die Struktur und das Aussehen. Flow ist auch gut, aber braucht hier und da noch ein wenig Polishing. Ich mag es nicht bei 00:58:271 (5) - (und den anderen in den anderen Kiais), wie sie auf dem großen Downbeat enden, weil der hier echt betont sein müsste imo. Bei den Spinnern vorm Chorus frage ich nochmal rum, weil das mit der Recovery Time mittlerweile strenger betrachtet wird :/
erst sind alle Spinner zu kurz, jetzt auch noch Recovery Time. asgfahf :c hoffentlich is die in Ordnung so. xD
was Kiai-Vorschläge angeht bin ich offen für alles, ich hätt sie am liebsten überall noch ne Ecke weiterlaufen lassen, fand das insgesamt dann aber übertrieben. :n

Hard
Ich find AR6~6,5 passt viel besser zum Spread und auch gut zur recht langsamen map. auf 6 reduziert
OD und HP sind recht hoch verglichen zur Normal. Probier 5,5 bei beiden.
OD auf 5,5 reduziert.
HP bei 6 gelassen. find das Setting eigentlich recht passend so, auch wenn es sich deutlich von Normal unterscheidet. Die map ist weder jump-heavy noch sind irgendwelche Streams drin, hier zu missen oder überhaupt 50er zu bekommen ist (imo) fast unmöglich.
Das selbe, was ich in der Normal zum Hitsounding gesagt habe gilt hier selbstverständlich auch.
Wie gesagt, ich guck was sich machen lässt. >~<
Gehe deine Map durch und versuche Overlaps mit der HP-Bar wie beispielsweise 00:46:202 (3,4,5) - zu vermeiden. Das sieht meist unschön aus und ist hinderlich beim spielen :/
will do. abgesehen von den genannten und einem Circle der fast damit überlappt hätte, habe ich aber keine gefunden.
Unsnapped Objects - alle gefixt
00:24:478 (6) - Ich find, dass es sich komisch anfühlt die Vocals auf 00:24:708 - zu ignorieren weil die an sich auch eine Art build-up zu dem upbeat sind. Bitte nimm nen 1/3 Slider :<
Find es passender hier beim Beat zu bleiben und wo der Slider enden würde bei 00:24:708 ist einfach keiner. :/
00:27:811 (6) - Hm, ich bin mir nicht sicher ob ein 1/6 Slider soeine gute Idee ist, weil er mich schon ziemlich verwirrt hat :/ Ich würde eher ein 1/6-Double wie bei den anderen nehmen.
geändert! wobei das jetzt das 3. mal is und jeder was anderes sagt. >: ich wart nur noch auf die Person die wieder nen Slider vorschlägt.. xD
00:32:639 (5,6) - Solch hohes Spacing bei einfachen Doubles spielt sich immer komisch imo. Probier bei diesen Doubles einfach mal 1,0 aus. Das spielt sich viel besser und sieht auch schöner aus, wenn du mich fragst (: Example
okay, hab sie aber ein wenig anders positioniert
00:39:306 (7,1) - Ich weiß schon was du hier folgst, aber die Lücke fühlt sich total leer an imo. Sowas wär hier total schön als build-up auch für die Vocals :3 (Same applies for 01:45:513 (7,1) - )
Mag die Lücke eigentlich ziemlich gerne.. :n hab jetzt erstmal nur einen Circle auf den Red Tick gepackt, da 1/3 Slider meiner Meinung nach nich passt, weil kein Beat vor dem nächsten Circle
00:52:064 (4,7) - /Minor/ - Stack die beiden hier damit es einmal ums Dreieck drumherum geht. Der overlap so ist noch sichtbar was es ein wenig untidy erscheinend lässt.
immer wieder Dreiecke und Vierecke fand ich auf Dauer lw, weswegen ich das hier unterbrochen hab. Hab statt das zu stacken jetzt ganz auseindander gezogen
01:07:926 (3) - Was genau folgst du mit dem? Der dominante Rhythm spiel sich hier für mich eindeutig auf den lila Ticks ab, sodass sich das hier irgendwie komisch anhört. Sowas passt hier auch durch den Hold der Vocals sehr schön hin imo. Selbiges gilt für 01:13:099 (2,3,4) - . (Nach der letzten Kiai find ichs okay, weil davor die Density höher ist, was den 1/2 Slider irgendwie einleitet)
changed
01:29:651 (1) - Der Circle hat mich durch den Overlap mit 01:28:616 (8) - total verwirrt und ich hab gemisst. 155|155 wär intuitiver, vor allem auch durch die Richtung, die 01:28:961 (1) - angibt.
hab lieber 01:28:961 (1) rotiert, jetzt sollte man intuitiv auch wieder in die Richtung ziehen
02:33:099 (1) - Hm, der Winkel hier spielt sich ziemlich gezwungen finde ich, weil ich von der nicht so sehr schrägen Linie jetzt direkt nach links muss. Intuitiver wärs durch die Richtung der Linie eher, wenns leicht nach rechts oder leicht nach links geht.
minimal anders gedreht, da das symmetrisch zu 02:32:064 (5,6) - aufgebaut is.
02:35:168 (1,2) - Nur ne Idee, nichts was du applien musst; Ich fänds ziemlich cool, wenn das mit rotierten Slidern gemacht wär, da ich finde, dass der grade und der Runde hier nicht sooo gut zusammen passen. Example
war auch mal so, wurde aufgrund von Mods dann geändert.. jetzt wieder rund.
02:58:616 (4) - Das würde sich so viel flüssiger spielen, wenns so wäre, weil so einfach der Übergang von der Kurve in den Slider direkt gegeben wäre ohne jeglichen Flow zu brechen.
Hab's nich ganz so extrem rotiert, das sah ziemlich ugly aus. aber fast.
03:01:375 (2,4) - Es ist noch sichtbar wie die beiden sich berühren, was das ganze ein wenig untidy aussehen lässt. Versuche das zu vermeiden.
okay
An sich ganz gut, es fehlt mir hier und da noch ein wenig das Aufgeräumte aber der Flow ist großteils echt gut. Es wär schön, wenn du für 1/6 ein konstantes 1,00~1,10er Spacing ebnutzen würdest, aber das sind sicher nur meine Vorzüge :3
Hab versucht mich bei den 1/6ern an 0.8 zu halten, hab ich zwischendurch aber vergessen.. mal gucken was am Ende besser aussieht.

It still needs a few more mods before I consider this as ready as there are in my opinion still some fairly big issues here and there :/
still on the hunt for mods, hard to find any, tho. \:D/ why do ppl despise low bpm 1/6 non-TV-size non-japanese songs.. so sad. :'C

updated for now, still have to apply Nichiyoukis mod!

Last edited by Squichu 2014-09-15T19:16:40+00:00, edited 3 times in total.

Nichiyouki

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Joined August 2011

Nichiyouki 2014-09-15T14:12:55+00:00

Hi, from my modding queue :3

[General]

Same with what Mao said. Please disable Letterbox during breaks & Widescreen support.

[Normal]

00:15:857 (2) - It seems whistle is unnecessary in slider tail, because it doesn't fit with the rhythm. Please remove it.
00:34:478 (4) - I think that make this slider like this picture would be better? Because I want this flow better than this.
SPOILER
00:51:030 (1,2) - I think these note switch like this picture would more fit with the melody than.
SPOILER
00:48:271 (1) - Add whistle in this slider tail?
00:55:513 (4,2) - Please try to avoid slider head (2) stack or overlap with slider tail (4). Because since this diff is easiest in this map, the newbie player may confused these.
00:57:926 (4) - Move this to x:288 y:124? I think this would flow better imo.
01:46:202 (1) - Use sampleset Normal on this spinner.

01:54:478 (1,2,3,4) - I feel it's weird pattern Copy these codes. I think it would be look better.

116,112,114478,6,0,P|81:108|48:120,2,70,8|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
166,181,115513,1,0,0:0:0:0:
148,264,115857,2,0,P|115:275|80:271,2,70,8|0|2,0:0|0:0|0:0,0:0:0:0:
228,240,116892,1,0,0:0:0:0:

01:56:892 (4,1) - Try to avoid stacking with slider head (1). I feel confuse when I read this.
01:57:237 (1,2) - Same with 00:51:030 (1,2) -
02:01:720 (5,1) - Same with 00:55:513 (4,2) -
02:26:547 (5) - Add whistle in slider repeat.
02:32:064 (5) - ^
02:35:168 (1) - Curve this slider clockwise like this picture would be better?
SPOILER
02:37:926 (1,3) - These slider are rather complex, which may cause the new player confused. So please make these better.
02:49:651 (2) - I think that make this slider blanket with slider tail 02:48:616 (4) would be look better.

[Hard]

00:12:064 (2) - I think that whistle in this note is unnecessary to use. Please remove it.
00:14:823 (2) - ^
00:18:501 (5,6) - You can reduce spacing between these. I feel these flow weird.
00:32:294 (3,4) - Maybe try to reduce spacing or change these are a slider instead. It may be better to play imo.
00:32:639 (5,6) - ^
00:53:099 (7) - It overlapped with 00:52:064 (4). So please move (7) to stack or avoid (4) would be better.
00:55:168 (5,6) - I feel this is weird that these are stack. Please try to avoid stacking by may move (6) to cause it doesn't boring to play.
01:11:605 (5) - You can make this look better than this by make change pattern of this slider is curve slider, which blanket with 01:11:375 (4) like this picture.
SPOILER
03:02:409 (4,5) - Move (4) to stack with slider tail 03:00:685 (1), and move (5) to stack with slider head 03:01:375 (2). I think that it would look better imo.
03:03:444 (1) - Use pattern same with 03:04:133 (2), by try these are symmetrical like this picture.
SPOILER
03:21:375 (4,5) - Same with 00:55:168 (5,6) -

[Zero's Insane]

For my comments, I prefer to increase AR is about 8.3~8.5 more than. I feel it would be more fun.
00:15:742 (4,1) - Remove whistle on slider head of (1), but add drum-whistle on (4) instead.
00:40:340 (5,1) - I think that move these slider to like this picture. It would look and flow better than.
SPOILER
00:59:651 (4) - Use Ctrl+G to switch head and tail in this slider? I feel this would flow better than.
01:08:616 (2) - Maybe move this sider about 2 grids would be better?
01:21:949 (4,1) - Same with 00:15:742 (4,1) -
02:03:099 (4) - Use Ctrl+G in this slider, too.
02:24:113 ~ 02:35:168 - It seems too loud for me. So I think you can reduce this volume is about 30~35%
03:40:685 (3,4) - Use regular drum on slider tail of (3). Then change whistle on slider head is regular normal. It think it would fit with the rhythm.

~~I will mod Insane diff tomorrow... (or after Zero's Insane diff updated latest from previous post)~~

I think this Insane diff is okay, but I don't mean Normal and Hard diffs are bad. These are good as well. Just may want to a few mods from other modders.

Good luck :3

Edit: Modded Zero's Insane diff...

Last edited by Nichiyouki 2014-09-18T03:59:27+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

Squichu

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Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-09-15T19:19:03+00:00

Thank you for the mod! :3
I'm going to fix your mod tomorrow, most likely and will reply then, too.
Zero's Insane is updated now, so feel free to mod once you have the time. >w<

Nichi

Nichiyouki wrote:
Hi, from my modding queue :3
Hi there! >w<

[General]
Same with what Mao said. Please disable Letterbox during breaks & Widescreen support. done!
[Normal]
00:15:857 (2) - It seems whistle is unnecessary in slider tail, because it doesn't fit with the rhythm. Please remove it. okay
00:34:478 (4) - I think that make this slider like this picture would be better? Because I want this flow better than this.
SPOILER
great idea, done! owo
00:51:030 (1,2) - I think these note switch like this picture would more fit with the melody than.
SPOILER
ye, changed
00:48:271 (1) - Add whistle in this slider tail? done
00:55:513 (4,2) - Please try to avoid slider head (2) stack or overlap with slider tail (4). Because since this diff is easiest in this map, the newbie player may confused these.
I had several newbie players testplay the diff and they didn't have much trouble with back-forth-stacking. Some missed the circle, but I don't think that's an issue. when new players decide to play Normal diff they know they most likely survive, just without full combo.
00:57:926 (4) - Move this to x:288 y:124? I think this would flow better imo.
changed the rhythm here so this doesn't apply anymore. >w<
01:46:202 (1) - Use sampleset Normal on this spinner. okay
01:54:478 (1,2,3,4) - I feel it's weird pattern Copy these codes. I think it would be look better.
changed, differently tho
01:56:892 (4,1) - Try to avoid stacking with slider head (1). I feel confuse when I read this.
changed
01:57:237 (1,2) - Same with 00:51:030 (1,2) - ye, changed too
02:01:720 (5,1) - Same with 00:55:513 (4,2) - keeping mine here, same reason as above
02:26:547 (5) - Add whistle in slider repeat. okay
02:32:064 (5) - ^ done
02:35:168 (1) - Curve this slider clockwise like this picture would be better?
SPOILER
I prefer the symmetry with 02:33:788 (2) - here >:
02:37:926 (1,3) - These slider are rather complex, which may cause the new player confused. So please make these better.
they didn't cause any confusion for the people who testplayed it. I added NC on the second slider so the pattern gets better readable, similar to 00:14:478 (3,1,2) - in the beginning
02:49:651 (2) - I think that make this slider blanket with slider tail 02:48:616 (4) would be look better.
changed in previous mod and I like how it currently plays.
[Hard]
00:12:064 (2) - I think that whistle in this note is unnecessary to use. Please remove it. okay
00:14:823 (2) - ^ ^
00:18:501 (5,6) - You can reduce spacing between these. I feel these flow weird. okay
00:32:294 (3,4) - Maybe try to reduce spacing or change these are a slider instead. It may be better to play imo.
redcued spacing (in previous mod)
00:32:639 (5,6) - ^ ^
00:53:099 (7) - It overlapped with 00:52:064 (4). So please move (7) to stack or avoid (4) would be better.
don't overlap anymore
00:55:168 (5,6) - I feel this is weird that these are stack. Please try to avoid stacking by may move (6) to cause it doesn't boring to play.
rearranged
01:11:605 (5) - You can make this look better than this by make change pattern of this slider is curve slider, which blanket with 01:11:375 (4) like this picture.
SPOILER
changed
03:02:409 (4,5) - Move (4) to stack with slider tail 03:00:685 (1), and move (5) to stack with slider head 03:01:375 (2). I think that it would look better imo.
prefer to not stack them here
03:03:444 (1) - Use pattern same with 03:04:133 (2), by try these are symmetrical like this picture.
SPOILER
changed them to be symmetrical, differently than on the picture tho
03:21:375 (4,5) - Same with 00:55:168 (5,6) -
disagreeing here, cause I don't thing it's boring to play.

Thank you!
updated.

edit - to everyone I asked for mods (via forum pm/queues/ingame..)
there is no need to mod anymore, cause I'm not going to update this any longer.
sorry and thanks for your time.

jonathanlfj

Elite Mapper

2,568 posts

Joined February 2010

jonathanlfj 2014-09-20T05:53:16+00:00

uhh i was just going to mod this today and i saw your previous post...are you still planning to get it ranked? Please let me know via forum pm

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

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Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2014-09-20T09:40:05+00:00

lol
hello headache

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2014-09-20T12:47:38+00:00

Zero__wind wrote:
lol
hello headache

sorry. :/

polka

1,125 posts

Joined March 2014

polka 2015-02-10T03:58:25+00:00

Sup from my modding queue.

Everything in this mod is solely my opinion as both a mapper and a player as to what I think the public would enjoy. I don't like forcing people to do things to their maps. Change what you feel is best.

I will mod Normal and Hard as requested

Normal:

You aren't using a 1/6 snap, so I suggest moving that down to 1/2.

00:52:409 (5) (1) Maybe change the direction of the slider so this doesn't go off screen.

01:19:306 (2) Maybe move this down so (3) can go more in the direction the slider naturally leads the player in.

01:24:823 (4) The curve you made in this slider could perfectly blanket (5)

01:27:237 (2) Maybe move this more in the direction (1) naturally leads you in?

02:41:375 (3) Maybe move this up more to better lead to (4)?

02:59:306 (5) Maybe change the direction of this slider so (1) has a bit more room to flow better?

03:13:788 (1) I would move this higher to be more in the direction (3) naturally leads the player in.

03:17:237 (2) This is really off screen. I highly suggest moving it.

Hard:

I suggest an approach rate of 7 or more. Helps pick up the pace.

01:29:880 (3) I suggest an NC here so the beat change seems more singled out

Other than that, I feel this is really well put together.

I enjoyed this map, it looks like you put a lot of time into it; it all paid off, too. Good luck and I'm glad I could help mod this wonderful map :3

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2015-02-10T08:10:53+00:00

Polka

PolkaMocha wrote:
Sup from my modding queue. hi there! >w<

Everything in this mod is solely my opinion as both a mapper and a player as to what I think the public would enjoy. I don't like forcing people to do things to their maps. Change what you feel is best.

I will mod Normal and Hard as requested

Normal:

You aren't using a 1/6 snap, so I suggest moving that down to 1/2. I don't think that matters. sure, there are less lines, but actually seeing what sliders like this 01:28:961 (1) - are shaped for is less confusing. and I like snapping anchors to beats, so yah. it's more handy if I keep it at 1/6

00:52:409 (5) (1) Maybe change the direction of the slider so this doesn't go off screen.
sure

01:19:306 (2) Maybe move this down so (3) can go more in the direction the slider naturally leads the player in.
adjusted the pattern slightly

01:24:823 (4) The curve you made in this slider could perfectly blanket (5)
ye, but it moves slightly worse than atm, so I'll keep it as it is ;w;

01:27:237 (2) Maybe move this more in the direction (1) naturally leads you in?
okay

02:41:375 (3) Maybe move this up more to better lead to (4)?
moved very slightly

02:59:306 (5) Maybe change the direction of this slider so (1) has a bit more room to flow better?
curved (5)

03:13:788 (1) I would move this higher to be more in the direction (3) naturally leads the player in.
I like the triangle it creates with 03:11:720 (2,3) - tho >-< and flow is acceptable, imo

03:17:237 (2) This is really off screen. I highly suggest moving it.
It's only offscreen in editor and perfectly visible while playing. :3

Hard:

I suggest an approach rate of 7 or more. Helps pick up the pace.
I'll think about it. I don't really want to increase it cause the spread gets so unbalanced then x:

01:29:880 (3) I suggest an NC here so the beat change seems more singled out
I'll keep it as it is for now, cause I like the consistency of NC on every downbeat. but I'll change it when more people prefer NC there!

Other than that, I feel this is really well put together.

I enjoyed this map, it looks like you put a lot of time into it; it all paid off, too. Good luck and I'm glad I could help mod this wonderful map :3
Thanks a lot, really! >w<

Thank you, PolkaMocha! :3
~~I'm in school right now so I'll apply the mod when I get home!~~

updateddd

Last edited by Squichu 2015-02-11T15:13:45+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Monstrata

Elite Mapper: Aspirant

4,642 posts

Joined May 2013

Monstrata 2015-02-11T00:05:13+00:00

Hi! From my M4M queue~ Modding the two difficulties that you said you remapped.

[Hard]

00:28:271 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You use a lot of circular motion with your previous patterns. This one's a bit... out of place. The overlap doesn't play that well imo. Consider rotating 00:29:306 (3,4,5) - I think you can work this circular pattern into 00:30:340 (6,7) - better.
01:07:582 (3) - I really think a slider fits better here... How about Ctrl+G 01:07:582 (3,4) - in time line? I think you could even extend the slider a bit more. I understand you are mapping to the drums but 3 is a strong beat that should warrant a slider

. It also plays better in tandem with the vocals without feeling like you are completely foregoing one (vocals or drums) for the other. Please consider this! I've made mention to this a few other times.
01:13:099 (3,4) - ^
01:29:880 (3) - Doesn't really map to anything imo... How about extending 01:29:651 (2) - to a slider?
01:46:892 (3,4) - Check blanket.
01:50:340 (6,7) - The beats here are totally different from what you've been mapping to before... How about a different pattern rather than the circular blanket pattern you've been using?
02:02:409 (2) - Slider? Like 02:03:099 (4,5) - . This pattern was really nice.
02:24:823 (2,3) - Same pattern as 01:07:582 (3,4)
02:46:202 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is inconsistent with the echo at 02:48:961 (1,2,3,4) - . I found the echo played much better. The spaced circles at 02:46:202 (1,2,3,4) - were underwhelming xP.
02:50:570 (6,7,8,9) - How about using short repeat sliders here to map the wobble (whatever you call it, I think you know what i mean).
03:08:616 (2,3,4,5) - Make them consistent? I find the sliders play better, but up to you.
03:19:995 (3,4) - Same as 01:07:582 (3,4)
03:25:513 (3,4) - ^

[Normal]

01:06:892 (1) - You could extend this to a slider to map out 01:07:237 - . I don't think this would compromise any difficulty concerns.
01:12:409 (1) - ^
01:28:961 (1,2) - How about this rhythm instead?
01:39:995 (1) - Could extend this to a slider too, since the beat is held.
01:45:513 (1) - ^
02:57:237 (1) - Extend to map 02:57:582 - ? I didn't point out a lot of these patterns in previous sections because the 2nd beat wasn't as noticeable as this one. Since this is the final chorus, consider mapping this pattern into sliders rather than spaced circles to emphasize the final Kiai and add some more variety? I don't think this compromises a difficulty increase either. Your call, I'm sure you know where the patterns are so I won't bother listing in case you disagree.

Nicely mapped with a very consistent rhythm.

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2015-02-11T07:34:28+00:00

Thank you!
~~I'm on my phone right now, will reply later!~~

monstrata

monstrata wrote:
Hi! From my M4M queue~ Modding the two difficulties that you said you remapped.
hi there! >w< I'll get to your maps asap (so hopefully this evening)!

[Hard]

00:28:271 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - You use a lot of circular motion with your previous patterns. This one's a bit... out of place. The overlap doesn't play that well imo. Consider rotating 00:29:306 (3,4,5) - I think you can work this circular pattern into 00:30:340 (6,7) - better.
ye, I changed the whole pattern. not like you suggested but should play better now
01:07:582 (3) - I really think a slider fits better here... How about Ctrl+G 01:07:582 (3,4) - in time line? I think you could even extend the slider a bit more. I understand you are mapping to the drums but 3 is a strong beat that should warrant a slider . It also plays better in tandem with the vocals without feeling like you are completely foregoing one (vocals or drums) for the other. Please consider this! I've made mention to this a few other times.
dunno if I changed it exactly like you meant, but changed with following pattern ovo
01:13:099 (3,4) - ^ altenated, but not with a slider, cause variety :3
01:29:880 (3) - Doesn't really map to anything imo... How about extending 01:29:651 (2) - to a slider? didn't use a slider, but removed 3 and alternated pattern around it so it should work better now
01:46:892 (3,4) - Check blanket. refined
01:50:340 (6,7) - The beats here are totally different from what you've been mapping to before... How about a different pattern rather than the circular blanket pattern you've been using?
I like the current pattern very veeery much (not noticeable at all, haha.. xD x: ...) so I'll keep it for now.
02:02:409 (2) - Slider? Like 02:03:099 (4,5) - . This pattern was really nice. I'll think about it, the current rhythm works better for me ;_;
02:24:823 (2,3) - Same pattern as 01:07:582 (3,4) ye, it's a similat pattern but since the emphasis isn't the same I changed this differently (much simpler)
02:46:202 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This is inconsistent with the echo at 02:48:961 (1,2,3,4) - . I found the echo played much better. The spaced circles at 02:46:202 (1,2,3,4) - were underwhelming xP.
I feel like the circles match better, but I'll keep it in mind!
02:50:570 (6,7,8,9) - How about using short repeat sliders here to map the wobble (whatever you call it, I think you know what i mean).
ye, I know what you mean, but I don't think it matches very well, cause the song's so soft. (also, I'd have to worry about the spread if I make this any harder.. xp )
03:08:616 (2,3,4,5) - Make them consistent? I find the sliders play better, but up to you. changed 3 but didn't touch 4, sounds better to me '_'
03:19:995 (3,4) - Same as 01:07:582 (3,4) keeping this for now
03:25:513 (3,4) - ^ ^

[Normal]

01:06:892 (1) - You could extend this to a slider to map out 01:07:237 - . I don't think this would compromise any difficulty concerns.
I'd prefer to kepp it as it is cause the vocals are more dominant here and two circles match them better than slider plus circle.
I'll keep it in mind, tho, maybe others will suggest the same.
01:12:409 (1) - ^ ^ >w<
01:28:961 (1,2) - How about this rhythm instead?
the idea is good, but the tick change between these two sliders is very very hard to read and this is the easiest difficulty. I don't want to confuse players like this. (if the rhythm were used more constatly I'd definitely go for that, but sadly it's only used this one time. >-< )
01:39:995 (1) - Could extend this to a slider too, since the beat is held. okay
01:45:513 (1) - ^ okay
02:57:237 (1) - Extend to map 02:57:582 - ? I didn't point out a lot of these patterns in previous sections because the 2nd beat wasn't as noticeable as this one. Since this is the final chorus, consider mapping this pattern into sliders rather than spaced circles to emphasize the final Kiai and add some more variety? I don't think this compromises a difficulty increase either. Your call, I'm sure you know where the patterns are so I won't bother listing in case you disagree.
I agree that I could map these breaks for variety, it's still playable, but I disagree about difficulty. the little breaks in between objects give the diff a more relaxed feeling overall and I don't wanna stress players out by making the last chorus harder than the previous ones, especially for beginner players it could become a small challenge to hit that many objects without a single break.

Nicely mapped with a very consistent rhythm.

updated!

Zetera

Medal Hunter

1,019 posts

Joined November 2010

Zetera 2015-02-11T22:12:22+00:00

Hi, thought I'd give that a quick overlook.

[General]

Is this just because of my skin settings because I don't use a custom reversearrow? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2745849 I can barely see it (default).
To prevent this from happening, add a custom arrow or lower the combo colour brightness a little.

[Normal]

|02:37:926 (1,2,3) - 3 is killing the flow here, even if the impact is just small. When you start the slider here, you'd intuitively expect a general movement to the upper left corner.But the slider goes somewhere else. You could try something anchor-like to make this work.

Suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2745923

Sorry, this diff is really solid and close to my mapping style, so I can't say more..

[Hard]

|Maybe you want to turn down the CS a little, the circles look pretty small, probably because of the hitcircles' rims.
|01:01:375 (1) - Wanna curve this for making a blanket with 00:59:995 (5) - ?
|02:56:547 (7,8) - No direct mistake here, but I think it would be better if you used a circle for 7 instead of a slider and used a double of circles up to the point of time of circle 8. It creates a nice little "temperature rise" and leads in the kiai.
|02:59:651 (7,1,2,3) - Is there a way to make that into a better-looking square?

[Zero's Insane]

|00:15:742 (4) - I believe there is a drum-hitwhistle missing here. Interestingly used those, by the way.

Nope, nothing else. I like the usage of flow/anti-flow, nicely used. Also, spacing has been fine and reasonable. No major issues to be found.

Well, that was most likely the tinies mod I've ever done. I hope I could still help a bit. Good luck!

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2015-02-11T22:25:45+00:00

Thanks, Sala-! :3
~~Ich geh nu schlafen und fix die map morgen.. >w<~~

Sala

Sala- wrote:
Hi, thought I'd give that a quick overlook. Yay! \o/

[General]

Is this just because of my skin settings because I don't use a custom reversearrow?
Aah, right. I probably should give the arrow a black border as well ~
going to change it (in a few days cause I don't have ps on this comp..)!

[Normal]

|02:37:926 (1,2,3) - 3 is killing the flow here, even if the impact is just small. When you start the slider here, you'd intuitively expect a general movement to the upper left corner.But the slider goes somewhere else. You could try something anchor-like to make this work.

Suggestion: https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/2745923
yup, nice idea! I went with a different shape, tho

Sorry, this diff is really solid and close to my mapping style, so I can't say more..

[Hard]

|Maybe you want to turn down the CS a little, the circles look pretty small, probably because of the hitcircles' rims.
Let me think about that for a while, I'm not sure if I want to increase size. it works fine as it is now and, imo, provides more clarity than bigger circles. they make the playfield seem more stuffed and considering the objects are pretty close to each other.. meh. I'll definitely think about that!
|01:01:375 (1) - Wanna curve this for making a blanket with 00:59:995 (5) - ?
I'd love to! but it goes offscreen then.. :c
|02:56:547 (7,8) - No direct mistake here, but I think it would be better if you used a circle for 7 instead of a slider and used a double of circles up to the point of time of circle 8. It creates a nice little "temperature rise" and leads in the kiai.
nice idea, changed!
|02:59:651 (7,1,2,3) - Is there a way to make that into a better-looking square? yep :3 changed

Well, that was most likely the tinies mod I've ever done. I hope I could still help a bit. Good luck!
You did, thank you! >w<

Last edited by Squichu 2015-02-12T14:40:03+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Mao

Elite Mapper II

2,963 posts

Joined December 2012

Mao 2015-02-11T22:31:18+00:00

Das lebt wieder? Das Lied ist so toll.

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2015-02-12T11:31:02+00:00

Sala- wrote:
[Zero's Insane]

|00:15:742 (4) - I believe there is a drum-hitwhistle missing here. Interestingly used those, by the way. yes nice catch!

Nope, nothing else. I like the usage of flow/anti-flow, nicely used. Also, spacing has been fine and reasonable. No major issues to be found.

Well, that was most likely the tinies mod I've ever done. I hope I could still help a bit. Good luck!

thanks for modding~

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Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2015-02-12T14:41:56+00:00

fixed Sala-'s mod. (reply's up above! >w<)

Mao wrote:
Das lebt wieder? Das Lied ist so toll.

Yeeeeeep, tut es! \o/

updated all diffs!
edit: updated skin! (thank you, GIMP)
edit2: changed background (only for my diffs)
edit3: changed backgroudn again (orz)

Ranger

939 posts

Joined June 2011

Ranger 2015-02-15T06:39:58+00:00

yup o/

[General]

00:11:719 ~ 00:43:444 , 01:17:926 ~ 01:49:651 - no hitsound at drum sound? if you don`t like normal clap sound, try use this

[Normal]

01:07:926 (3) - how about remove 1 receive? like this
01:13:444 (3) - well..same reason, just add one circle at 01:13:788
Ex
01:17:926 (1) - add finish instead whistle? i think it much better
01:28:961 (1) - add finish at behind

[Hard]

01:42:409 (5) - how about make that just one circle?
01:56:087 (6) - spacing error a litte (recommend move to x:404 y:52)

[Zero's Insane]

01:39:995 (1) - hmm...how about make like this?
Ex
02:36:892 (5) - how about make same angle at 02:36:547 (4)?

go to BN :p
Good luck for Rank~

Sieg

3,981 posts

Joined February 2012

Sieg 2015-02-15T09:35:12+00:00

hellow, sorry for the delay ;_;

[General]

You sure you wan to keep 2 backgrounds? Because it's strange to keep one bg for 2 diffs and another for one more even if this is gd.
I don't like how you use SliderTrackOverride, what's the point in overriding slider body color?
Your CC6 and CC7 is way too similar, consider to make CC6 a bit more lighter.
Since you use sliderscorepoint.png I guess you should include complete Slider skin set.
Turn off widescreen support.

[Normal]

01:19:306 (2) - NC here
01:28:961 (1) - I don't like the shape of this slider, yep it's trying to follow music, but eh..
01:34:478 (1,3) - make 1 by copy-pasting 3
01:40:685 (2) - maybe replace this with some kind of wave slider http://puu.sh/fWhF1/69a9591df7.jpg seems more suitable to vocals
02:31:030 (4) - better to curve this one vice versa for better flow
03:08:961 (3,5) - make them parallel
03:17:237 (2) - move this up a bit
03:39:306 (2) - curve this more, preferably like 03:31:030 (3)
Generally: if you use a lot of one type curve sliders, making them similar by copy-pasting will look more polished.

[Hard]

00:23:444 (2,3) - this jump is too forced, since you usually use only 1.3x DS
Can't really catch all this 1\6 rhythms, such a pain for me, well, anyway the main issue here is that difficulty gap is too big between Normal-Hard. This is mostly because rhythm density and usage of 1\6. Think about tone down rhythm oh hard or make more complex on normal.
Also, take a note that rhythms on "long" lyrics parts like 01:02:064 (2,3,4,5) - is even harder than on insane here

[Zero's Insane]

Like this one, plays well and really clear. Nothing to suggest.

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2015-02-15T11:35:43+00:00

thanks, you two! >w<
I'll reply in detail later!

Zero__wind

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Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2015-02-15T15:37:56+00:00

Ranger wrote:
[Zero's Insane]

01:39:995 (1) - hmm...how about make like this? don't think I want such twisted flow here
02:36:892 (5) - how about make same angle at 02:36:547 (4)? currently looks good already

Sieg wrote:
[Zero's Insane]
Like this one, plays well and really clear. Nothing to suggest. :3

thanks for mod~

Squichu

1,013 posts

Joined November 2012

Topic Starter

Squichu 2015-02-15T19:08:17+00:00

Ranger

Ranger wrote:
yup o/ o/

[General]
00:11:719 ~ 00:43:444 , 01:17:926 ~ 01:49:651 - no hitsound at drum sound? if you don`t like normal clap sound, try use this
added whistle+finish to first spinner in Normal, sounds okay, but not in Hard cause it ends on a different beat there~
abou the others - I prefer to keep them quiet cause that matches the melody best. but if more people point that out, I'll think about what to do!
[Normal]
01:07:926 (3) - how about remove 1 receive? like this
prefer to keep this, cause it sounds really off to me if this is empty. ;-;
01:13:444 (3) - well..same reason, just add one circle at 01:13:788
same here! >-<
I changed up the rhythm slightly, so sliders won't start on the upbeat now!
01:17:926 (1) - add finish instead whistle? i think it much better added, but left whistle too, sounds better to me
01:28:961 (1) - add finish at behind yup, changed!
applied both changes to Hard as well
[Hard]
01:42:409 (5) - how about make that just one circle?
01:56:087 (6) - spacing error a litte (recommend move to x:404 y:52)
fixed both!
go to BN :p I'll do that when the set's okay, it's not ready yet ;_;
Good luck for Rank~ Thank you! :3

Sieg

Sieg wrote:
hellow, sorry for the delay ;_; hi there! >w< no worries, I'm not in a rush. and mods are appreciated anytime ~

[General]
You sure you wan to keep 2 backgrounds? Because it's strange to keep one bg for 2 diffs and another for one more even if this is gd.
yep, I'm pretty sure. I prefer the star themed background, that also matches with the skin. and I won't force someone to change bg just cause I like it better. ofc Zero can change it anytime if he wants to, but I'm fine with having two :3
I don't like how you use SliderTrackOverride, what's the point in overriding slider body color?
No particular reason, really. That's how I imagined the skin when I made it and it looks nice to me. and that also makes the slidertrack more noticeable when the combo's are grey. ;w;
Your CC6 and CC7 is way too similar, consider to make CC6 a bit more lighter.
sure, changed in all diffs!
Since you use sliderscorepoint.png I guess you should include complete Slider skin set.
I can't find sliderscorepoint in any skin set, tho? D: I just made this cause of the slidertrack colour, the default one wasn't really noticeable.. so I thought it was fine to not skin other elements? Ofc I can add the default ones, but I don't see any point in that cause sliderscorepoint doesn't interfere with any other skin elements. (so I'll probably add that in the next few days.)
Turn off widescreen support.
whoops.. turned it off (again orz)
[Normal]
01:19:306 (2) - NC here I wanna keep NCs on downbeats, also followpoint is nice to have in between, makes it easier to get to the next object
01:28:961 (1) - I don't like the shape of this slider, yep it's trying to follow music, but eh.. I like the shape, but made all parts straight, for now ~ :n
01:34:478 (1,3) - make 1 by copy-pasting 3 wanted them to be different, looks more interesting to me
01:40:685 (2) - maybe replace this with some kind of wave slider http://puu.sh/fWhF1/69a9591df7.jpg seems more suitable to vocals only made it less edged for now
02:31:030 (4) - better to curve this one vice versa for better flow okay
03:08:961 (3,5) - make them parallel changed rhythm previously so yah, they're kinda parallel now anyway xD
03:17:237 (2) - move this up a bit why? it flows nicely and doesn't go affscreen either ;w;
03:39:306 (2) - curve this more, preferably like 03:31:030 (3) okay
Generally: if you use a lot of one type curve sliders, making them similar by copy-pasting will look more polished.
I usually do, but in the end I adjust some pixels and suddenly it looks all different.. xD I definitely should pay more attention to that, but meh ~ >-<
[Hard]
00:23:444 (2,3) - this jump is too forced, since you usually use only 1.3x DS changed to standard DS
Can't really catch all this 1\6 rhythms, such a pain for me, well, anyway the main issue here is that difficulty gap is too big between Normal-Hard. This is mostly because rhythm density and usage of 1\6. Think about tone down rhythm oh hard or make more complex on normal.
personally I didn't think the gap's that big. :/ 1/6 notes are too hard for Nomal (imo) so I left them out, but not mapping them in Hard feels just wrong to me. x_x kinda empty. guess I'll have to think of something but I honestly don't know how I can simplify the rhythm without making it play weird. -> I'll fix that once I have an idea about what to do!
Also, take a note that rhythms on "long" lyrics parts like 01:02:064 (2,3,4,5) - is even harder than on insane here
I changed the one you mentioned and will look at the rest in a few days. >-<

Aaah, thanks a lot to you two! wasn't able to fix everything yet, but I'll do that as soon as I can. :3
updated!

riffy

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8,060 posts

Joined December 2010

riffy 2015-02-21T14:09:43+00:00

Hello ~~heartache~~

[General]

Is there a reason to keep it in WiP?
D-d-did you really make the BG? This is great, like really great. I am in love with it. ♥

Can we have softer combo colours? The bright ones seem too agressive and might feel uncomfortable for players' eyes.

Alternative

[Colours]
Combo1 : 160,160,160
Combo2 : 198,175,168
Combo3 : 243,234,177
Combo4 : 128,164,179
Combo5 : 115,151,247
Combo6 : 208,216,190
SliderBorder : 90,90,90
SliderTrackOverride : 255,255,255

[Normal]

02:24:823 (2,3) - I can clearly hear that vocals begin on the white tick and fade out on the red one. Why don't we just replace these two circles with a slider? This would follow the song closer.
03:25:513 (2,3) - select them and hit Ctrl+G, it'll swap them on the timeline and make them match better with the vocals. Don't forget to fix their placement afterwards.

I'm in love with the diff. ♥

[Hard]

00:10:685 - can we end the spinner earlier? For a relaxing song, it's quite reasonable to make the after-spinner gap a little longer.
00:13:099 (3,4) - 1/3 gap here feels tricky, why don' we replace it with a slider? Just for the beginning of the diff, so players will get the idea of your rhythm.
01:24:708 (3) - 01:25:742 (5) - 01:30:225 (4) - I see the reason why you place them, but if we remove them, the beats on following ticks become better-emphasized and the whole rhythm feels more natural. This is just a Hard diff and the song is relaxing, let's keep it simple.

I would try to simplify calm parts a little. As the amount of 1/6 makes me a little unsure, but everything else looks great. ♥

[Zero's Insane]
Just a question: why don't you use the same BG as the rest of the set?

00:36:202 (1,2) - might be just me, but I'd rather ake the sliders 1/6 shorter and place circles on the white ticks. So, the beats are stressed and sliders are not curved in an unnatural way.
03:03:444 (3,4) - minor - can we move them just a little down? (4) overlaps with the progress-bar/score. (4:3 display)

Nicely done!

Find me when you're ready.

Zero__wind

osu! Alumni

3,314 posts

Joined August 2012

Zero__wind 2015-02-22T10:40:55+00:00

-Bakari- wrote:
[Zero's Insane]
Just a question: why don't you use the same BG as the rest of the set? the one for my diff is the original one lol. maybe just get rid of it
00:36:202 (1,2) - might be just me, but I'd rather ake the sliders 1/6 shorter and place circles on the white ticks. So, the beats are stressed and sliders are not curved in an unnatural way. hmm it's like either is ok to me. I remember that I made these sliders because there's no beat at 00:37:122 - , no change for this point I guess
03:03:444 (3,4) - minor - can we move them just a little down? (4) overlaps with the progress-bar/score. (4:3 display) ok fixed!

Nicely done!

thanks for your mod!

code

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Squichu

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Squichu 2015-02-22T18:14:16+00:00

aah, thank you, Bakari!
~~I'll get to this asap.. (hopfeully find the time in the next few days) >-<~~
I'll update Zero's diff after I fixed mine, too!

Bakari

-Bakari- wrote:
Hello ~~heartache~~ hi! >w<

[General]
Is there a reason to keep it in WiP? whoops, must have uploaded it to wip instead D: gonna upload it to pending with update!
D-d-did you really make the BG? This is great, like really great. I am in love with it. ♥ Thank you! ;w; makes me happy when people like it!
Can we have softer combo colours? The bright ones seem too agressive and might feel uncomfortable for players' eyes. Colours aren't displayed correctly here, so I'll change them when I'm home. but I think I'll just tone down my set of colours, I prefer the blue-yellow contrast 'w'
[Normal]
02:24:823 (2,3) - I can clearly hear that vocals begin on the white tick and fade out on the red one. Why don't we just replace these two circles with a slider? This would follow the song closer.
03:25:513 (2,3) - select them and hit Ctrl+G, it'll swap them on the timeline and make them match better with the vocals. Don't forget to fix their placement afterwards.
changed both!

I'm in love with the diff. ♥
[Hard]
00:10:685 - can we end the spinner earlier? For a relaxing song, it's quite reasonable to make the after-spinner gap a little longer. sure
00:13:099 (3,4) - 1/3 gap here feels tricky, why don' we replace it with a slider? Just for the beginning of the diff, so players will get the idea of your rhythm. alright, changed
01:24:708 (3) - 01:25:742 (5) - 01:30:225 (4) - I see the reason why you place them, but if we remove them, the beats on following ticks become better-emphasized and the whole rhythm feels more natural. This is just a Hard diff and the song is relaxing, let's keep it simple. okay

I would try to simplify calm parts a little. As the amount of 1/6 makes me a little unsure, but everything else looks great. ♥
Ye, I've looked at the diff a few times with your and Sieg's comments in mind and I think I get where it gets tricky. I removed some notes and adjusted some rhythms to make these 'calm' parts a little easier, but I didn't change anything in the livelier (colourful/Kiai) parts (yet). I have to look at this a few more times to make sure it's not totally messed up.. >-<
Find me when you're ready.
gotta change some things up first. 'w'

I also added a completed Slider Skin Set, as Sieg pointed that out.

@Zero
It's totally up to you with the background! if you prefer the original one you can keep that in your diff, I'm fine with having more than one bg in a set.
(I can change it for you too if you want. just tell me wherever!

)

going to update when I'm home. can't connect to bancho from school. :C
edit - updated, still need to fix some things
edit2 - updated again, everything should be fixed now >w<

Zero__wind

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Zero__wind 2015-02-25T08:15:29+00:00

I think I prefer to keep the original one, hope it's not so weird though

Squichu

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Squichu 2015-02-25T11:40:05+00:00

it's totally fine! :3
~~most people play with 100% dim anyway, who cares?~~

riffy

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riffy 2015-02-26T09:26:12+00:00

Squirrel wrote:
who cares?

I do, and I'll recheck it pretty soon.

[General]

Don't you feel like sliderpoint10.png and sliderpoint30.png are missing from the skin. According to the list they should be here. Confirm it with a QAT?
Try using two gray colors instead? Or make colors 5 and 6 more distinguishable. They look nearly the same.

[Normal]

02:06:547 (4) - minor - mind moving it a little higher? It nearly gets overlapped with the "Online Users" button. :c
03:17:237 (2) - minor - and again, move it a little higher in order to prevent overlaps with user-interace. (score-meter)

[Hard]

02:42:064 (3,4) - minor - same with Normal. Just move them a little higher, please.

And the final confirmation: are you sure about the SliderTrackOverride?

Let me know.

Edit: yeah, they're

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Squichu

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Squichu 2015-02-26T15:42:08+00:00

-Bakari- wrote:
Squirrel wrote:
who cares?
I do, and I'll recheck it pretty soon.

I hope you appreciate backgroud variety then.. \o/ :b
nah, but seriously. different backgrounds are fine, aren't they? D:

__________________________________________________________________________

aaaaalright. I'm so slow, I'm sorry. ;__; //buries herself
- added sliderspoint10 + 30 to skin
- adjusted combocolours in all diffs (sorry, Zero. I didn't ask, but it was fine before, so I figured it's okay to tweak grey colours.. >-< )
- moved all objects so they won't overlap with user-intreface (hopefully)

and yes, I am sure about SliderTrack Override. :3
updated!

riffy

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riffy 2015-03-02T16:40:16+00:00

I'm literally crying. The song, skin and BGs, everything matches perfectly. That's what I call an amazing set. Great job!

Bubbled!