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Nogawa Sakura - Now If There is a Smile

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ztrot
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ztrot
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on Thursday, August 20, 2009 at 10:09:56 PM

Artist: Nogawa Sakura
Title: Now If There is a Smile
Source: Gate Keepers 21
Tags: Nogawa Sakura Gate Keepers 21
BPM: 69
Filesize: 13650kb
Play Time: 01:23
Difficulties Available:
  1. GATE OPEN!!! (4.8 stars, 283 notes)
  2. Gate (4.46 stars, 164 notes)
  3. Larto's Gate (2.74 stars, 95 notes)
  4. whymeman's Gate (5 stars, 372 notes)
Download: Nogawa Sakura - Now If There is a Smile
Download: Nogawa Sakura - Now If There is a Smile (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Skin made by Me. Thanks to Daru and Ryuukun for the skinning elements.
offset fixed due to new mp3
Went ahead and went with my gut and redid the offset much better imo not early anymore
Last edited by ztrot , edited 45 times in total.
whymeman
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whymeman
I can pitch in a difficulty to help you out :-3

Oh and I have 69.002 BPM with a 112 ms offset for the first one.

I have the layout of the notes done, but I have to double check the spacing since distance snap screwed me again :-/

Download: Nogawa Sakura - Now If There is a Smile (ztrot) [whymeman's Gate].osu

And this for the difficulty too.
SPOILER
ATTACH[[whymeman's Gate].jpg]


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ztrot
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ztrot
D: thanks for the 1st bpm and offset but we got a small issue my diff is really hard to fc yet it only gives about 2.9mil
your is not nearly as hard but yet it gives 4mil D:
Azure_Kite
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Azure_Kite
Here's my mod:

[Gate]
No Problems Found :)

[GATE OPEN!!]
No Problems found :)

[whymeman's Gate]
*I'll get to you later


In the meantime, Starred!
whymeman
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whymeman

ztrot wrote:

D: thanks for the 1st bpm and offset but we got a small issue my diff is really hard to fc yet it only gives about 2.9mil
your is not nearly as hard but yet it gives 4mil D:
Is that so? :- o

I was trying to set an intense pace like it was going to be a violent tornado..... butI guess I should make it even harder then...
Shinde
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Shinde
Hi my name is Shinde and I approve of this message. Er, star.
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James2250
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James2250
gate:
00:33:14 (3) - align perfectly under 2?

gate open
00:36:37 (5) - move this slightly more on screen?
00:42:64 (3,4,5) - move down to align with the rest of them?

whymeman's
combo's go slightly high for my liking, but I see no problems
I like where the spinner ends on this one, change the other diff's to match this one? (up to you)

*star*
whymeman
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whymeman
Alright, here is my refined copy. I fixed up the glitched spacing and added a few more notes to it.

Download: Nogawa Sakura - Now If There is a Smile (ztrot) [whymeman's Gate].osu
yeahyeahyeahhh
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yeahyeahyeahhh
Timing:
Try these.. maybe.. I'm still new to timing but it feels a bit off to me.

Offset:
Section 1 - 123 or 128... somewhere in there
Section 2 - 10,583

Suggestions:
Gate-
00:45:11 (1) - Remove new combo to match the others before

GATE OPEN!!!-
00:11:31 (7,8,9,10) - I'd rearrange these so, for more comfort to the player :x 7 where 8 it, 8 were 9 is, 9 were 7 is, 10 the same
00:13:02 (8,9,10) - Same thing as above
00:15:30 (2) - Move ontop of 1
00:15:49 (3) - Remove
00:21:57 (1) - Mirror 00:20:05 (2) -
00:47:01 (2) - Maybe on the other side of 00:46:44 (3,4,5) - to go with how you're going side to side?

starrr
Hikato
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Joined August 2008
Hikato
:T Wanted to find something but failed. Nice map.
ddrmaniac
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ddrmaniac
i like this map. star
ztrot
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ztrot
Whymeman I will add your diff back as soon as i get this fixed right
DL issues
Nachy
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Nachy
The skin is great and the map is awesome.

Starred.
Pokebis
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Pokebis
It's been forever since I've modded anything or even played, so I'm not completely up to date with the standards now, but here's what I think.

Gate:
00:45:11 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - Spacing here is kind of inconsistent with the rest of the map, but it's okay...
00:54:60 (1,2,3) - ^Same
00:56:12 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - The placement for this difficulty is slightly questionable.
Rest is great.

GATE OPEN!!!:
00:02:72 (1,2,3,4,5) - You obviously did this on purpose, but these are all the same timing but different spacing and could confuse a lot of people. It's up to you to keep it or not. Nevermind, you're obviously going for crazy spacing throughout the whole map.

whymeman's Gate:
Actually, no complaints here.

Have a star, and listen to people of a higher position than me.
Cuddlebun
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Joined August 2008
Cuddlebun
if there is a smile this gets a star

well look at that
Larto
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Larto
Overall:
- The way the mp3 ends is pretty damn terrible.
I mean, it's cut off so suddenly. can you get something better? Or maybe let the mp3 fade out with audacity?
The timing is a bit off, but since you're gonna need to fix the mp3 anyway, which will probably change the offset, I won't give you the exact offset and everything just yet~

- Could use an easier difficulty.

whyme:
This has so fucked up spacing at times it's not even funny >:| Could you please try to make the spacing more reasonable at places like 01:15:68 (8,9,10,11) - or 01:09:04 (1,2,3,4) - . Those are only examples.


GAYTE OPEN!!!: (Hey that looks like a Yen letter)
00:02:73 (1,2,3,4,5) - Make this star pattern a bit prettier, will you >_> Move (4) up 1 Level 3 grid and two to the left, move (3) up 1 Level 3 grid and two to the right.
01:22:71 (1,2) - Not symmetrical ^_^ And flip them horizontally so (1) is not so close to the last note.

Gate:
yai
whymeman
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whymeman
whyme:
This has so fucked up spacing at times it's not even funny >:| Could you please try to make the spacing more reasonable at places like 01:15:68 (8,9,10,11) - or 01:09:04 (1,2,3,4) - . Those are


Maybe the jump(s) was overkill..... I'll look into it.
whymeman
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whymeman
Okay, got the fixes in and removed the crazy jump.

Download: Nogawa Sakura - Now If There is a Smile (ztrot) [whymeman's Gate].osu (With the fixed timing & combo color adjustment)
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Larto
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Larto
New timing:
First Offset: 141
First BPM: 69.000
Second Offset: 10,593
Second BPM: 158.000

That took too long.
blissfulyoshi
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blissfulyoshi
Since you are near ranking, no nazi modding unless I have a good reason to point the flaw out.

Gate:
SPOILER
y are there 2 timing sections on this diff if one of them is not used

normal mod:
01:08:69 (1,2,3,4) - move these all down 1 grid 3 to have the 3 be under the blue 6
01:23:50 (2) - stack under the white 4

combo mod:
00:24:07 (1) - remove new combo?

Gate Open:
SPOILER
normal mod:
00:40:97 (1,2,3,4,1) - the section starting here is very repetitive

might want to lower the drain 1 notch

whymeman's gate:
fine

Nice map. Star.
Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
[Gate]
Your attemps at a clap pattern fail here
00:17:61 (4) - Whistle seems nice on this entire slider
00:20:65 (6) - ^
00:51:41 (7) - Remove Finish
00:53:40 (8) - v only whistle
00:53:69 (9) - idk why but I randomly put on whistle and a clap and it sounds good...
That's not your everyday clap...
01:10:97 (5) - Remove clap on beginning of slider
01:17:42 (10,1) - Add all hitsounds on these? [lulz idk why I'm suggesting this]

[whymeman]
srsly...why me man...? D=

00:28:06 (6) - Add a clap?
01:16:19 (10,11) - Wrong spacing...

[Gate Card Open~!]

[Gate Open]
Seems fine...
whymeman
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whymeman
Okay, got the fixes in and tried playing around with some of the skin stuff. What do you think of it?

00:28:06 (6) - Add a clap? (I would but I feel better keep this pattern.)
01:16:19 (10,11) - Wrong spacing... (Done. Not sure how I missed that one.)

Download: Nogawa Sakura - Now If There is a Smile (ztrot) [whymeman's Gate].osu

Oh and here is the comboburst. Took alot of testing to make sure the loose pixels are not on it... :|



Screenshots: 1 2 3

Matma Rex
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Joined March 2009
Matma Rex
The skin of spinner is ugly.

These star-feathers look like beans.

[Gate]
Great.

[Gate Open, wymeman's]
Too hard for me, but seem nice too.
Mafiamaster
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Mafiamaster
Gate~
Since the first timing section isn't being used. Mind removing it?

Gate open~
01:16:19 (1,2,3,4) - Suggestion: Given the short distance of this note with a slight pause right after 01:15:71 (1,2) would probably ensure a miss for someone playing it for the first time maybe. How about flipping this horizontally across the map.

whymemans diff is fine ^.^
Larto
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Larto
:D

Download: Nogawa Sakura - Now If There is a Smile (ztrot) [Larto's Gate].osu
whymeman
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whymeman
Download: Nogawa Sakura - Now If There is a Smile (ztrot) [whymeman's Gate].osu

Adjusted the hitsounds to 65% volume. I fear that having it too high might overpower the song.
RemmyX25
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Modding because I LOVE YOU for mapping this.

I don't quite understand the signifigance of spinner-metre.png, nor does it really look that interesting.

imo, "SPIN!!" and "CLEAR!!" could be skinned as well.

Thats also an awkard combo burst of Ayane. Let me see if I can dig out a better pose. I just don't feel the current one is suitable for "comboburst" (no offence, whymeman ^^;; )

I was thinking SOMETHING like this, but i don't think I can find a higher res version.


I only have one map comment to make, it's near perfect imo

whymeman's Gate:
01:28:06 (1) - please remove this. It feels pointless and confusing because not only is it on silence, but silent in itself as well.
whymeman
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whymeman

RemmyX25 wrote:

Modding because I LOVE YOU for mapping this.

I don't quite understand the signifigance of spinner-metre.png, nor does it really look that interesting.

imo, "SPIN!!" and "CLEAR!!" could be skinned as well.

Thats also an awkard combo burst of Ayane. Let me see if I can dig out a better pose. I just don't feel the current one is suitable for "comboburst" (no offence, whymeman ^^;; )

I was thinking SOMETHING like this, but i don't think I can find a higher res version.


I only have one map comment to make, it's near perfect imo

whymeman's Gate:
01:28:06 (1) - please remove this. It feels pointless and confusing because not only is it on silence, but silent in itself as well.
No worries. I had a hard time finding a decent image for this anime ^_^;;

I'll make sure to look into that fix later today (Is currently in midnight lurk mode)
whymeman
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whymeman
Fixed the end part a bit on this copy.

Download: Nogawa Sakura - Now If There is a Smile (ztrot) [whymeman's Gate].osu
Jarby
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Jarby
Did I mod this before? I dunno.

GATE OPEN!!:

00:25:20 (1,2,3,4) - Covered by the sliders a bit sloppily. Flip me vertically~ Wait, don't do that.
00:27:10 (2) - Unstacked on slider end.
00:28:81 (1) - A bit long and boring, remove two repeats and do something.
00:54:63 - Move kiai to here. It'll work better.
00:57:67 (1) - Move down.
Sushi
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Sushi
Sushi Mod Gooooooooooooooo

[Larto' Gate]
Nothing to say

[Gate]
00:27:10 (2) - stack better
00:34:88 (1,2,3,4,5) - vertical symetry?
00:49:31 (1,2,3,4,5) - make these a perfect diamond

[GATE OPEN]
00:06:01 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - not vertically symetric, but that's nothing.
00:12:86 (1,3) - symetry
01:06:02 (1,4) - ^
01:08:68 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - God ^ this is horrible
01:11:72 (6) - Stack better

[whymeman's]
omg that's hard


Really nice map... haaaa... i remember ztrot first maps they were so... and there were so many...
what? you don't mind? okay. here my star instead =D
Starrodkirby86
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*nosepick*

[Larto's Gate]:
01:21:12 (3) - Move 1/4 back. o;

[Gate]:
Hey, mind if you lower Overall Difficulty by one to two ticks? xD

[GATE OPEN!!!]:
00:57:48 (3) - This seems like a really, really dicky underspacing.
01:16:18 (1) - This too. Though you can fix it by rearranging the pattern or making a horizontal flip, I suppose. :o

*pick of the nose*
ztrot
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ztrot

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

*nosepick*

[Larto's Gate]:
01:21:12 (3) - Move 1/4 back. o; fixed

[Gate]:
Hey, mind if you lower Overall Difficulty by one to two ticks? xD forgot to change that back :V.

[GATE OPEN!!!]:
00:57:48 (3) - This seems like a really, really dicky underspacing.eehhh I think i like that there
01:16:18 (1) - This too. Though you can fix it by rearranging the pattern or making a horizontal flip, I suppose. :oI just made it follow DS rules now

*pick of the nose*
I think it's all good now. :D
whymeman
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whymeman
Found a note that wasn't scaled in with the spacing. Here is the corrected copy.

Download: Nogawa Sakura - Now If There is a Smile (ztrot) [whymeman's Gate].osu
Starrodkirby86
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Hmmm...
deepsea
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deepsea
^__^
Sleep Powder
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Sleep Powder
[Beatmap Comments]

[GATE OPEN!!!]
Well maybe it was just the lag or the cursor or something but...
my mouse sensitivity seemed to be a bit weird.
Maybe it was just the spacing.
The horizontal stream felt a bit weird to play.
I should try this again after I restart osu! to get rid of the lag.
It was a decent beatmap a bit normal but it was alright.
whymeman
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whymeman

animask wrote:

[Beatmap Comments]

[GATE OPEN!!!]
Well maybe it was just the lag or the cursor or something but...
my mouse sensitivity seemed to be a bit weird.
Maybe it was just the spacing.
The horizontal stream felt a bit weird to play.
I should try this again after I restart osu! to get rid of the lag.
It was a decent beatmap a bit normal but it was alright.
If you was not around from before, I think peppy did some changes with the mouse sensitivity settings in the game....
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