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Role Cards sent out waiting for each players' picks
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All Role PMs are out, game will begin when 5/7 confirm.
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6/7 Confirmed so let's begin
Day 1 ends on 18th October 2013: 12:39 GMT-5 <-- Click for countdown.
Anyone not confirmed yet has 24 hours since day start to confirm or get replaced.
Day 1 ends on 18th October 2013: 12:39 GMT-5 <-- Click for countdown.
Not voting (7): Sephibro, Irreversible, GuyInFreezer, Lincolm, Zexion_Vi, CalignoBot, Blue Yoshi
With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch
With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch
Sephibro discarded: Survivor Mason
Irreversible discarded: Werewolf Mason
GuyInFreezer discarded: Werewolf Roleblocker
Lincolm discarded: Cop
Zexion_Vi discarded: Ninja Werewolf
CalignoBot discarded: Alien Sympathizer
Blue Yoshi discarded: Hirosute Townie
Irreversible discarded: Werewolf Mason
GuyInFreezer discarded: Werewolf Roleblocker
Lincolm discarded: Cop
Zexion_Vi discarded: Ninja Werewolf
CalignoBot discarded: Alien Sympathizer
Blue Yoshi discarded: Hirosute Townie
Anyone not confirmed yet has 24 hours since day start to confirm or get replaced.
Vote: Lincolm
Vote: Blue Yoshi
Why would I even use Hirosute townie, I don't want to be detrimental to town.
Vote: Sephibro
Hey, Blue Yoshi, what card did you use for your alignment?
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Page grab
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Lincolm (1): GuyInFreezer
Blue Yoshi (1): Irreversible
Sephibro (1): Blue Yoshi
[L-2]>GuyInFreezer (2): Lincolm, Zexion_Vi
Not voting (2): Sephibro, CalignoBot
With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch
Blue Yoshi (1): Irreversible
Sephibro (1): Blue Yoshi
[L-2]>GuyInFreezer (2): Lincolm, Zexion_Vi
Not voting (2): Sephibro, CalignoBot
With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch
Used VT for alignment.
I could've used Hirosute townie for alignment, but I would've rather used that as my public choice.
I could've used Hirosute townie for alignment, but I would've rather used that as my public choice.
RQS time
1) which faction do you prefer? Town, mafia/ww, or SK?
2) do you prefer funny role or serious role?
3) do you think massclaiming the alignment card is a good idea?
1) which faction do you prefer? Town, mafia/ww, or SK?
2) do you prefer funny role or serious role?
3) do you think massclaiming the alignment card is a good idea?
1) town in serious games, SK in joke games (ilike chat mafia)
2) serious roles
3) yes.
2) serious roles
3) yes.
1) can I ask what SK is? I'll answer then o.o
2) uhm, well i don't really see which role is funny and which not.
3) Can't really tell, don't have any experience with it (just being honest, lol)
2) uhm, well i don't really see which role is funny and which not.
3) Can't really tell, don't have any experience with it (just being honest, lol)
SK is a serial killer, aka third party.
Funny roles like psychomagnetizer (I think that's what it's called), WPWT, etc. Norm roles are the general roles that you should know.
Funny roles like psychomagnetizer (I think that's what it's called), WPWT, etc. Norm roles are the general roles that you should know.
1) TownGuyInFreezer wrote:
RQS time
1) which faction do you prefer? Town, mafia/ww, or SK?
2) do you prefer funny role or serious role?
3) do you think massclaiming the alignment card is a good idea?
2) Funny role i guess
3) I still have to think of a good strategy for this game, i would say no for the moment
Vote: Lincolm for the moment
Oh and there are at least Survivors and Aliens too among the factions
1) k then, town
2) Never played any of those, but I'm sure it'd be fun
2) Never played any of those, but I'm sure it'd be fun
Lincolm vote is a good vote. Just see what he discarded.
Also I think claiming alignment card will be good because sometimes the two claimed alignment cards can counterclaim each other because scum would have to lie about his alignment card. It's not like we're revealing our roles or anything. Just an alignment.
Also I think claiming alignment card will be good because sometimes the two claimed alignment cards can counterclaim each other because scum would have to lie about his alignment card. It's not like we're revealing our roles or anything. Just an alignment.
1) Maybe town because ignorance is bliss sometimes.
2) Funny roles. The funnier the better.
3) No idea. First time playing this setup, but at least it allows some hints... but not too good hints either.
2) Funny roles. The funnier the better.
3) No idea. First time playing this setup, but at least it allows some hints... but not too good hints either.
GIF, why are you so agressively trying to lead the conversation?
this is the fact: in usual games one should always claim the "good" faction, i.e. the one which has the majority. The only safe claim in this game is Town, since we're sure that townies don't know each other
Then no, alignment mass-claim is NOT a good idea
Then no, alignment mass-claim is NOT a good idea
1. 3rd party of any variety (survivor, sk, hurr durr)
2. For this setup specifically I like funny roles, because that's the reason this setup was made.
3. No input on this, unless you mean the actual role.
2. For this setup specifically I like funny roles, because that's the reason this setup was made.
3. No input on this, unless you mean the actual role.
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Bump of Faith
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[L-2]>Lincolm (2): GuyInFreezer, Sephibro
Blue Yoshi (1): Irreversible
Sephibro (1): Blue Yoshi
[L-2]>GuyInFreezer (2): Lincolm, Zexion_Vi
Not voting (1): CalignoBot
With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch
Blue Yoshi (1): Irreversible
Sephibro (1): Blue Yoshi
[L-2]>GuyInFreezer (2): Lincolm, Zexion_Vi
Not voting (1): CalignoBot
With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch
Wait, Lincolm votes for hisself?
You saw nothing!
-Sakura
You saw nothing!
-Sakura
^ should be in bold
That's the point.Sephibro wrote:
this is the fact: in usual games one should always claim the "good" faction, i.e. the one which has the majority. The only safe claim in this game is Town, since we're sure that townies don't know each other
We all know that mafia won't claim mafia, wolf won't claim wolf, etc.
So they'll gonna lie. When they lie, there's a chance that the alignment card might cross, creating a counterclaim. (E.G. There's only one "Town Vigilant". If two people claim that they used Town Vig as their alignment card, we have scum in those two.)
Because I canIrreversible wrote:
GIF, why are you so agressively trying to lead the conversation?
oh really 
Nowhere does it say that the pool of roles is taken out as each person gets their 3 choices.GuyInFreezer wrote:
So they'll gonna lie. When they lie, there's a chance that the alignment card might cross, creating a counterclaim. (E.G. There's only one "Town Vigilant". If two people claim that they used Town Vig as their alignment card, we have scum in those two.)
What if Blue Yoshi dropped his town card (which isn't good for us), while taking a scum factionned role? So he can act like he's done something good for us, but in real you just want to trick us, while he's really being scum?
Or am I totally wrong with this thought?
Or am I totally wrong with this thought?
But I know how this setup works.Blue Yoshi wrote:
Nowhere does it say that the pool of roles is taken out as each person gets their 3 choices.GuyInFreezer wrote:
So they'll gonna lie. When they lie, there's a chance that the alignment card might cross, creating a counterclaim. (E.G. There's only one "Town Vigilant". If two people claim that they used Town Vig as their alignment card, we have scum in those two.)
Unless Sakura messed up, you are not allowed to get duplicate cards. She linked the role list in OP, I believe.
uhm, there's a 'you' in my sentence which should obviously be a 'he'
btw, i'm now offline, sleeping time, cya guys
"you" as in general.
RQS is wasting time.
Cop only can detect mafia and I don't know how many mafias will be, maybe even 0. In 7P, it is almost likely worthless role. I randomize my discarded card anyway. They were FBI Agent or Cop.
What is your alignment card then?
Lol your discarded card is very good as scum team. Especially werewolf, you can kill or roleblock people and discard it? No no no, your card is a distraction for become more townie. Your RQS prove me right any way.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Lincolm vote is a good vote. Just see what he discarded.
Cop only can detect mafia and I don't know how many mafias will be, maybe even 0. In 7P, it is almost likely worthless role. I randomize my discarded card anyway. They were FBI Agent or Cop.
What is your alignment card then?
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I should've added it to the setup description but the way roles are distributed I put the entire list on random.org and then start giving 3 roles in order to each player in the playerlist in order.
[L-2]>Lincolm (2): GuyInFreezer, Lincolm
Blue Yoshi (1): Irreversible
Sephibro (1): Blue Yoshi
[L-2]>GuyInFreezer (2): Lincolm, Zexion_Vi
Not voting (1): CalignoBot
With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch
Blue Yoshi (1): Irreversible
Sephibro (1): Blue Yoshi
[L-2]>GuyInFreezer (2): Lincolm, Zexion_Vi
Not voting (1): CalignoBot
With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch
Town lover, because screw lovers.
I'm trying to understand what you're trying to say here, but sadly, I can't.Lincolm wrote:
Lol your discarded card is very good as scum team. Especially werewolf, you can kill or roleblock people and discard it? No no no, your card is a distraction for become more townie. Your RQS prove me right any way.
Then that would mean that two people could have gotten the same role card? From what I understand, that would be a yes.Sakura wrote:
I should've added it to the setup description but the way roles are distributed I put the entire list on random.org and then start giving 3 roles in order to each player in the playerlist in order.[L-2]>Lincolm (2): GuyInFreezer, Lincolm
Blue Yoshi (1): Irreversible
Sephibro (1): Blue Yoshi
[L-2]>GuyInFreezer (2): Lincolm, Zexion_Vi
Not voting (1): CalignoBot
With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch
Well. sorry about that. Werewolf can kill someone. Roleblock can block power role or scum kill . I mean, you can have your own alignment with kill or roleblock someone.
You prefer other power rather than roleblock, which mean this one is more powerful. I don't want to know this power, but isn't werewolf with power is very powerful? Hey, if you get werewolf + power, you can kill someone + use your power at the same time in night, rather than town + power.
I think you discarded that card because you're trying to appear more townie, as you get 2 scums cards, it doesn't matter what alignment, it is still scum team.
You prefer other power rather than roleblock, which mean this one is more powerful. I don't want to know this power, but isn't werewolf with power is very powerful? Hey, if you get werewolf + power, you can kill someone + use your power at the same time in night, rather than town + power.
I think you discarded that card because you're trying to appear more townie, as you get 2 scums cards, it doesn't matter what alignment, it is still scum team.
random.org lists use unrepeated sequence, so it would be "no."Zexion_Vi wrote:
Then that would mean that two people could have gotten the same role card? From what I understand, that would be a yes.Sakura wrote:
I should've added it to the setup description but the way roles are distributed I put the entire list on random.org and then start giving 3 roles in order to each player in the playerlist in order.[L-2]>Lincolm (2): GuyInFreezer, Lincolm
Blue Yoshi (1): Irreversible
Sephibro (1): Blue Yoshi
[L-2]>GuyInFreezer (2): Lincolm, Zexion_Vi
Not voting (1): CalignoBot
With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch
However, some roles have multiple cards (for example, VT have 6 or 7 cards, I believe.)
Even if I got 2 scum cards (I didn't.), I could discard one and use the other scum role for the role therefore making myself as town, if that's what you're talking about.Lincolm wrote:
Well. sorry about that. Werewolf can kill someone. Roleblock can block power role or scum kill . I mean, you can have your own alignment with kill or roleblock someone.
You prefer other power rather than roleblock, which mean this one is more powerful. I don't want to know this power, but isn't werewolf with power is very powerful? Hey, if you get werewolf + power, you can kill someone + use your power at the same time in night, rather than town + power.
I think you discarded that card because you're trying to appear more townie, as you get 2 scums cards, it doesn't matter what alignment, it is still scum team.
Also roleblocker is not my style.
I don't like how this doesn't give me a preview or anything.
So, yes, roles can be duplicate, but only for certain roles.
Also there are 12, not 6. (I'm still thinking of an old Great idea deck -.-)
So, yes, roles can be duplicate, but only for certain roles.
Also there are 12, not 6. (I'm still thinking of an old Great idea deck -.-)
That's the point, except that role is so strong you won't use it for your alignment.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Even if I got 2 scum cards (I didn't.), I could discard one and use the other scum role for the role therefore making myself as town, if that's what you're talking about.
Why? I think it is pretty fun cause I ever get roleblocker power once. (And I roleblocked the other roleblocker when she hit the scumteamGuyInFreezer wrote:
Also roleblocker is not my style.
)I have a very bad memory with the roleblocker role.
I don't wanna talk about it.
I don't wanna talk about it.
sorry for my low activity, I will post later..it's friday night
Just a reminder for you, Sephibro. I want your respond.Lincolm wrote:
Cop only can detect mafia and I don't know how many mafias will be, maybe even 0. In 7P, it is almost likely worthless role. I randomize my discarded card anyway. They were FBI Agent or Cop.
I'm not going to partake in RQS.
I only briefly skimmed the game so far. Are the cards truly unique or are they reusable? This entire alignment-claiming business depends on the answer and I have yet to see a definitive one as of yet.
More thoughts later. I want to think when my feet aren't killing me.
I only briefly skimmed the game so far. Are the cards truly unique or are they reusable? This entire alignment-claiming business depends on the answer and I have yet to see a definitive one as of yet.
More thoughts later. I want to think when my feet aren't killing me.
But but but
my questions actually will help finding scumz later :<
(so answer them please)
cards aren't reusable. They can have few duplicates, but they aren't reusable.
my questions actually will help finding scumz later :<
(so answer them please)
cards aren't reusable. They can have few duplicates, but they aren't reusable.
It's been a very long time since I last thought RQS was anything but a terrible version of RVS, so I'm not going to support its use.
Sorry.
Sorry.
you scared? 
ok, here we go
BTW, i will propose another kind of claim: what if we all claim both the cards we didn't discard?
There's only one problem with this: we should be able to post our roles all in the same moment, which isn't possible (unless we do it in a way i proposed in another game, but looks like it is out of rules)
we can do it thanks to this site http://tny.cz/
everyone writes the two cards he didn't discard OBVIOUSLY PROTECTING IT WITH A PASSWORD and then posts the url here. When everybody has posted the url, we all give our passwords.
@Lincolm: my vote is 99% random, i voted you only because discarding cop card there's a slightly higher chance of your alignment not being town
I thought about this too, in fact I was about to ask if each card was unique, but there are so many duplicates of safe alignment claims that it's not even worth it.GuyInFreezer wrote:
That's the point.
We all know that mafia won't claim mafia, wolf won't claim wolf, etc.
So they'll gonna lie. When they lie, there's a chance that the alignment card might cross, creating a counterclaim. (E.G. There's only one "Town Vigilant". If two people claim that they used Town Vig as their alignment card, we have scum in those two.)
BTW, i will propose another kind of claim: what if we all claim both the cards we didn't discard?
There's only one problem with this: we should be able to post our roles all in the same moment, which isn't possible (unless we do it in a way i proposed in another game, but looks like it is out of rules)
we can do it thanks to this site http://tny.cz/
everyone writes the two cards he didn't discard OBVIOUSLY PROTECTING IT WITH A PASSWORD and then posts the url here. When everybody has posted the url, we all give our passwords.
@Lincolm: my vote is 99% random, i voted you only because discarding cop card there's a slightly higher chance of your alignment not being town
That's rolefishing. What I'm asking isn't.
[quote=Sephibro]I thought about this too, in fact I was about to ask if each card was unique, but there are so many duplicates of safe alignment claims that it's not even worth it.[/quote]
Little chance is better than no chance.
Little chance is better than no chance.
Little chance is better than no chance.Sephibro wrote:
I thought about this too, in fact I was about to ask if each card was unique, but there are so many duplicates of safe alignment claims that it's not even worth it.
Stupid quote tag quotation mark stuff
Also
Unvote: Lincolm
He's most likely town.
Unvote: Lincolm
He's most likely town.
how about this thing, is it legal? If it is, i agree on claiming alignment card only tooSephibro wrote:
we can do it thanks to this site http://tny.cz/
everyone writes the two cards he didn't discard OBVIOUSLY PROTECTING IT WITH A PASSWORD and then posts the url here. When everybody has posted the url, we all give our passwords.
That is 100% against the rules, at least on Mafiascum. I would be very surprised if it was allowed here.
well then claiming is worthless, since people can read previous post and avoid writing the same things
GuyInFreezer wrote:
Little chance is better than no chance.
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I'm gonna have to say no to this.Sephibro wrote:
BTW, i will propose another kind of claim: what if we all claim both the cards we didn't discard?
There's only one problem with this: we should be able to post our roles all in the same moment, which isn't possible (unless we do it in a way i proposed in another game, but looks like it is out of rules)
we can do it thanks to this site http://tny.cz/
everyone writes the two cards he didn't discard OBVIOUSLY PROTECTING IT WITH A PASSWORD and then posts the url here. When everybody has posted the url, we all give our passwords.
Lincolm (1): Sephibro
Blue Yoshi (1): Irreversible
Sephibro (1): Blue Yoshi
[L-2]>GuyInFreezer (2): Lincolm, Zexion_Vi
Not voting (2): CalignoBot, GuyInFreezer
With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch
Blue Yoshi (1): Irreversible
Sephibro (1): Blue Yoshi
[L-2]>GuyInFreezer (2): Lincolm, Zexion_Vi
Not voting (2): CalignoBot, GuyInFreezer
With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch
I'm still thinking if it's better to claim alignment card only or both. Let's brainstorm together
Let's say one has these two cards:
1. Werewolf -random_role-
2. Town -random_role-
even if his alignment is ww, he could still use the other card as a completely safe claim
Let's say one has these two cards:
1. Werewolf -random_role-
2. Town -random_role-
even if his alignment is ww, he could still use the other card as a completely safe claim
Okay.
My 3 cards were:
Vanilla Townie
Mafia Goon
Hirosute Townie
Picked in that order. (so I would be a townie goon)
I hoped this would give me a mason/vig combo if anyone was in the same boat as me, but apparently I was the only unlucky one. I didn't get a vig, either.
I am literally stuck with the equivalent of a vanilla townie, which is even what I am called because "townie goon" makes no sense.
To have an idea of how much this sucks:
Imagine you were a legitimate vanilla townie in a Role Madness game. All points are defeated.
My 3 cards were:
Vanilla Townie
Mafia Goon
Hirosute Townie
Picked in that order. (so I would be a townie goon)
I hoped this would give me a mason/vig combo if anyone was in the same boat as me, but apparently I was the only unlucky one. I didn't get a vig, either.
I am literally stuck with the equivalent of a vanilla townie, which is even what I am called because "townie goon" makes no sense.
To have an idea of how much this sucks:
Imagine you were a legitimate vanilla townie in a Role Madness game. All points are defeated.
Tbh, RQS are stupid. They didn't find the mindset, but personality. (Sure, I like to know someone's personality, but not in the mafia game)GuyInFreezer wrote:
my questions actually will help finding scumz later :<
That's funny. I don't see how that's make me get higher chance become not town. Care to explain this? I claim my discarded card is randomized, what do you think about that?Sephibro wrote:
@Lincolm: my vote is 99% random, i voted you only because discarding cop card there's a slightly higher chance of your alignment not being town
I hate when you claim lover, though I like that role.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Little chance is better than no chance.
Why?GuyInFreezer wrote:
Unvote: Lincolm
He's most likely town.
Whatever idea you make, it is same in the end, scums attend to read the previous post. I already claim 2 of my cards any way,Sephibro wrote:
well then claiming is worthless, since people can read previous post and avoid writing the same things
@Blue Yoshi : Why claim VT this early?
BlueYoshi, you seem so unneccessarily nervous, why? You just offer us all your informations, all the time.
GIF, I don't like your behaviour such as 'You scared ?' or 'because I can ' Why mocking us all the time?
GIF, I don't like your behaviour such as 'You scared ?
' or 'because I can ' Why mocking us all the time?FoS: Blue Yoshi
You aren't good at maths are you?Lincolm wrote:
That's funny. I don't see how that's make me get higher chance become not town. Care to explain this? I claim my discarded card is randomized, what do you think about that?
Because I liked ur explanation of why you discarded cop.
Tbh the #2 of my "RQS" was directed towards you but you ended up explaining the stuff I wanted to know without answering my question.
Tbh the #2 of my "RQS" was directed towards you but you ended up explaining the stuff I wanted to know without answering my question.
GIF is strangely aggresive. Why are you trying to provoke people? That RQS wasn't that hepful either.
GuyInFreezer wrote:
Because I can
Being the first one to fully claim saves me the trouble of doing it later, since it just seemed inevitable at the pace we were going.
Care explain how maths work on the probability of pulling 3 random cards in between 129 cards and 6 other people drawing 18 other cards that you didn't even know what cards they pulled?Sephibro wrote:
You aren't good at maths are you?
I don't think I even want to calculate that, seriously.
Explain like I'm learning math in here please.
And you didn't answer my second question in the same quote.
Care to explain which of my post and how is that answer your question? Because I don't see any.GuyInFreezer wrote:
Tbh the #2 of my "RQS" was directed towards you but you ended up explaining the stuff I wanted to know without answering my question.
How was that make us go to the "let's mass claim our power" ?Blue Yoshi wrote:
Being the first one to fully claim saves me the trouble of doing it later, since it just seemed inevitable at the pace we were going.
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Lincolm (1): Sephibro
Blue Yoshi (1): Irreversible
Sephibro (1): Blue Yoshi
[L-2]>GuyInFreezer (2): Lincolm, Zexion_Vi
Not voting (2): CalignoBot, GuyInFreezer
With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch
Blue Yoshi (1): Irreversible
Sephibro (1): Blue Yoshi
[L-2]>GuyInFreezer (2): Lincolm, Zexion_Vi
Not voting (2): CalignoBot, GuyInFreezer
With 7 Alive it takes 4 to lynch
Please let me know if you see any mistakes
Eh, I'm not sure.
I made the post about 5 minutes before I fell asleep and didn't even consider if it wa a good idea or not.
ddddd
I made the post about 5 minutes before I fell asleep and didn't even consider if it wa a good idea or not.
ddddd
This is all I needed to hear. I wanted to see your motive of discarding the cop role. I expected it to be role preference (funny role over norm role), but it was something I didn't expect to hear and I like that answer.Lincolm wrote:
Cop only can detect mafia and I don't know how many mafias will be, maybe even 0. In 7P, it is almost likely worthless role. I randomize my discarded card anyway.
Parroting, parroting, and parroting.Zexion_Vi wrote:
GIF is strangely aggresive. Why are you trying to provoke people? That RQS wasn't that hepful either.
Vote: Zexion_Vi
Hey Sakura, when's the deadline again?
Still, I don't get how that post is town post and I didn't post it for answering your RQS...GuyInFreezer wrote:
This is all I needed to hear. I wanted to see your motive of discarding the cop role. I expected it to be role preference (funny role over norm role), but it was something I didn't expect to hear and I like that answer.
(Tbh, I really think GIF is Pikachu right now...)
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http://www.timeanddate.com/countdown/ge ... +1+ends+inGuyInFreezer wrote:
Hey Sakura, when's the deadline again?
Parroting, parroting, and parroting.Zexion_Vi wrote:
GIF is strangely aggresive. Why are you trying to provoke people? That RQS wasn't that hepful either.
Vote: Zexion_Vi[/quote]
Well, to be honest I didn't read the "Deal with it" and I had nothing else to say (Its D1 anyways). Can't seem to understand how parroting points to something through.
^ I was quoting GIF, but seems I forgot a [quote] at the beginning lol
Lincolm wrote:
Actually, I can do it any way.
GIF is Pikachu.
You didn't answer my RQS question, but you basically answered what I wanted to know.Lincolm wrote:
Still, I don't get how that post is town post and I didn't post it for answering your RQS...GuyInFreezer wrote:
This is all I needed to hear. I wanted to see your motive of discarding the cop role. I expected it to be role preference (funny role over norm role), but it was something I didn't expect to hear and I like that answer.
(Tbh, I really think GIF is Pikachu right now...)
Basically, you skipped a step for me.
Also it felt town. But logically I disagree with that post because still you could get mafia if there was one.
Zexion_Vi wrote:
Well, to be honest I didn't read the "Deal with it" and I had nothing else to say (Its D1 anyways). Can't seem to understand how parroting points to something through.
Parroting is a great way to look town by doing basically nothing.
..¬¬
ㅇㅅㅇ?Irreversible wrote:
..¬¬
sup