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REM - Narcissus

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Topic Starter
gdeath
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2009年9月17日 at 23:53:15

Artist: REM
Title: Narcissus
Source: Narcissu Opening Theme
Tags: tieff
BPM: 160
Filesize: 16245kb
Play Time: 02:17
Difficulties Available:
  1. Baka tieff (4.5 stars, 248 notes)
  2. Easy (1.68 stars, 120 notes)
  3. Hard (4.57 stars, 215 notes)
  4. Normal (3.44 stars, 179 notes)
Download: REM - Narcissus
Download: REM - Narcissus (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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My first beatmap.
Very much thanks to abalee Alace Breeze tieff v2b and anyone helped me.Wish you a good game.Enjoy IT!

7/13/2009 remake hard after following v2b's advice.
7/27/2009 tieff's skin added
8/11/2009 tieff's diff added
8/11/2009 video added
8/23/2009 remake hard after Alace's advice
9/06/2009 Breeze's spinner-metre&hitcircleoverlay added

PC Game : Narcissus - OP
al2e10
HI!!

00:27:44 (7) finish on 819 ~
00:32:22 (3) move to 319
(5) move to 694
00:44:41 (8) finish on 708
00:57:91 (2) finish on 288
....
AM... you should lisen more. And find more wrong place ~
it is not fix the music ~

And use more other sound ~ Then I will give you a star ~
GladiOol
Offset 1256

Hard
Decrease tick rate to 2 please.
00:23:78 (5) - Make this end on the white tick, 1/8 later.
00:25:28 (3) - Make this end 1/2 earliër or later.
00:26:85 (6) - Make this end on the white tick @ 00:26:78. and then make it end 1/8 later.
00:27:53 (7) - Make this start 1/4 later, and make it end 1/2 later or 1/2 earliër.
00:31:28 (3) - Make this end 1/2 earliër or later.
00:32:22 (4) - Make this 1/2 later.
00:32:60 (5) - Make this start 1/2 later and make it end 1/4 later.
00:34:85 (4) - Too large jump (?)
00:42:16 (5) - Make this end 1/4 earliër.
00:44:41 (8) - Make this end 1/4 later.
00:46:85 (3) - Make this end 1/4 earliër.
00:47:60 (5) - ^
00:49:28 (4) - Make this end 1/4 later.
00:50:41 (1) - Make the spinner end on 00:51:53.
00:53:41 (2) - Make this end 1/4 later.
00:56:22 (7) - Spacing.
00:56:41 (8) - Make this one end on 00:56:78.
00:57:91 (2) - Make this end 1/4 earliër.
00:58:85 (4) - Make this end 1/4 later.
01:03:44 (4) - Make this 1/4 later.
01:04:47 (7) - Spacing~
01:07:47 (1) - Make this end 1/4 later.
01:09:91 (5) - Make this end 1/2 earliër.
01:12:53 (6) - Make this end 1/4 earliër.
01:13:38 (7) - Make this start 1/4 earliër.
01:15:91 (8) - Make this end 1/4 earliër.
01:20:78 (7) - ^
01:22:00 (5) - Spacing and make it start 1/4 later.
01:24:91 (11) - Make this end 1/4 later.
01:27:91 (4) - ^
01:31:00 (7) - ^
01:38:41 (9) - ^
01:45:91 (5) - Move one grid lvl to the right and make it end 1/4 earliër.
01:53:69 (4) - Make this 1/4 later.
02:01:19 (1) - Make it start 1/4 later and and then make the reverse arrow start 3/4 earliër.
02:06:35 (1) - Make the spinner end 1/4 earliër.

You'll get star after fixes~
Topic Starter
gdeath

al2e10 wrote:

HI!!

00:27:44 (7) finish on 819 ~
FIXED

00:32:22 (3) move to 319
FIXED

(5) move to 694
FIXED

00:44:41 (8) finish on 708
FIXED

00:57:91 (2) finish on 288
FIXED

....
AM... you should listen more. And find more wrong place ~
it is not fix the music ~
yeah,I have listened in earnest one more time and found some mistakes.

And use more other sound ~ Then I will give you a star ~
Well,I think this song is somewhat sorrow,thus I select the soft cadence.However other tempoes can not fit in with
its atmosphere.So I don't want use other tempo.At last,thank you for your advice.
Topic Starter
gdeath
This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
al2e10
~AMAM......

[Hard]
00:27:538 (7) finish on 913
22.5% (5) finish on 538
30.6% (8) finish on 788
31.9% (1) finish on 194
32.3% (3) use circle
34.6% (1) finish on 538
36.8% (2) finish on 788
38.7% (7) distance snap !!
40.6% (4) finish on 413
48.2% (5) finish on 288
49.8% (4,6) delete it
56.5% (5) finish on 475

am.... their are so many wrong circle !!
It is not mix the music !!
Try to use 75% or 50% to lissen ~
Topic Starter
gdeath

al2e10 wrote:

~AMAM......

[Hard]
00:27:538 (7) finish on 913
FIXED
22.5% (5) finish on 538
FIXED
30.6% (8) finish on 788
FIXED
31.9% (1) finish on 194
FIXED
32.3% (3) use circle
FIXED
34.6% (1) finish on 538
FIXED
36.8% (2) finish on 788
FIXED
38.7% (7) distance snap !!
FIXED
40.6% (4) finish on 413
FIXED
48.2% (5) finish on 288
FIXED
49.8% (4,6) delete it
delete two note?Maybe some changes should be made here
56.5% (5) finish on 475
FIXED

am.... their are so many wrong circle !!
It is not mix the music !!
Try to use 75% or 50% to lissen ~

thank you,I'm trying to make it better
Topic Starter
gdeath

al2e10 wrote:

And use more other sound ~
After a while thinking,i really agreed that other sound should be placed.and thus i'v already put them someplace suitable
al2e10
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Topic Starter
gdeath
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GladiOol
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Topic Starter
gdeath

Gladi wrote:

Gladi wrote:

Offset 1256
^ I still say this is the offset~ go do 25% speed, as you can hear the music starts THERE.
The offset is now on the vocals -> which it shouldn't be.
The offset is meant to be on the place the 'beat' / 'rhytm' starts. Not where the person starts singing.

Normal
Decrease tick rate to one (?)
FIXED
00:23:75 (6) - Make it end 1/2 earliër.
FIXED
00:34:81 (4) - I dunno if this is rankable, since the slider overlaps it self, but that's up to a BAT to say.
FIXED,i made it easier~
00:37:81 (4) - End it 1/1 earliër OR later. (?)
FIXED
00:46:25 (1) - Spacing.
FIXED
00:49:81 (7) - Same as it 00:34:81. Also make it end 1/2 earliër.
FIXED
00:53:75 (3) - Make it end 1/2 later. (At all these things, they'll end on that sort of ''Drum Stick Tick'' if you listen closely)
FIXED
00:55:25 (3) - Make it end 1/2 earliër.
FIXED
01:00:13 (1,2,3,4) - Spacing.~
(1,2,3,4,?)i only see the problem of spacing of (3)?
01:04:63 (6) - 1/2 earliër.
FIXED
01:07:44 (1) - Remove finish sound.
FIXED
01:25:63 (7) - Move on grid lvl to the right.
FIXED
01:29:38 (3) - Spacing.
FIXED
01:31:06 (8) - Make it end 1/2 earliër.
FIXED

Easy
Decrease tick rate to one (?)
FIXED
00:33:91 (1) - Spacing.
spacing time is so long ,I can not put on it?maybe i should change another pattern?
00:35:03 (4) - Spacing.
FIXED
00:36:91 (1) - Spacing.
FIXED
01:35:41 (2) - Spacing.
FIXED
01:53:41 (3) - Spacing.
FIXED
01:59:41 (3) - Spacing.
FIXED

still regarding the Offset ,you are right.My offset was wrong and I have fixed it.thank you very much.
nullPointLOL
This is very well mapped. Can't get used to the spacing, though. But that's just me :P
Star^^
Topic Starter
gdeath
really thanks to you for staring my map.I am still trying to improve it.A new level of difficulty
may be added :lol:
Lissette
Hi! cute song! n_n

Suggestions

Easy
00:22:28 4/4 1x bpm this timing section is unnecessary
Reduce the Beat Snap Divisor to 0,8x
00:38:77 (6) - end point at 00:39:52
01:20:77 (2) - New combo?
01:25:27 (8) - i don't like this overlap on Easy
01:40:27 (2) - make this slider ends at 01:41:02
01:47:39 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - to hard for an Easy diff.
01:52:27 (2) - end it at 01:53:02
01:54:89 (7) - i don't like how this sounds
01:58:27 (2) - end it at 01:59:02

Normal
00:22:28 4/4 1x bpm same as Easy
00:24:89 (6) - Spacing
00:49:83 (7) - make more visible which side goes the slider ball
00:55:27 (3) - make this more visible like this00:34:83 (4)
00:58:83 (8) - make this ends at 00:59:77
01:19:08 (10) - make more visible which side goes the slider ball
01:30:70 (7) - make this more visible like this00:34:83 (4)
01:55:08 (1) - remove new combo and add one on the next note

Hard
00:22:28 4/4 1x bpm same as Easy and Normal
00:40:27 (2) - confusing
00:53:77 (3) - remove slider and place a single note (sounds better imo)
01:10:08 (x) - place a note
01:12:52 (5) - remove and place a single note
01:38:39 (9) - confusing, can you make more visible which side goes the slider ball?
01:56:58 (6,7) - make it more visible

Star....
Topic Starter
gdeath

Lissette wrote:

Hi! cute song! n_n

Suggestions

Easy
00:22:28 4/4 1x bpm this timing section is unnecessary
Reduce the Beat Snap Divisor to 0,8x
FIXED
00:38:77 (6) - end point at 00:39:52
FIXED
01:20:77 (2) - New combo?
FIXED
01:25:27 (8) - i don't like this overlap on Easy
FIXED
01:40:27 (2) - make this slider ends at 01:41:02
FIXED
01:47:39 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - to hard for an Easy diff.
FIXED
01:52:27 (2) - end it at 01:53:02
FIXED
01:54:89 (7) - i don't like how this sounds
FIXED
01:58:27 (2) - end it at 01:59:02
FIXED

Normal
00:22:28 4/4 1x bpm same as Easy
00:24:89 (6) - Spacing
FIXED
00:49:83 (7) - make more visible which side goes the slider ball
FIXED
00:55:27 (3) - make this more visible like this00:34:83 (4)
FIXED
00:58:83 (8) - make this ends at 00:59:77
FIXED
01:19:08 (10) - make more visible which side goes the slider ball
FIXED
01:30:70 (7) - make this more visible like this00:34:83 (4)
FIXED
01:55:08 (1) - remove new combo and add one on the next note
FIXED

Hard
00:22:28 4/4 1x bpm same as Easy and Normal
I know this line is unuseful,but I'm used to put a green line in order to identify the first note.but after thinking a while,i decide to correct the bad habit.FIXED
00:40:27 (2) - confusing
FIXED
00:53:77 (3) - remove slider and place a single note (sounds better imo)
FIXED
01:10:08 (x) - place a note
hamn...I dont know how to place notes here.I think the spinner is no problem.maybe i'll fix it if i think about the better pattern.
01:12:52 (5) - remove and place a single note
FIXED
01:38:39 (9) - confusing, can you make more visible which side goes the slider ball?
FIXED
01:56:58 (6,7) - make it more visible
FIXED

Star....

thanks to you for helping me mod the map.your advice is very helpful.and thx again
blissfulyoshi
Easy:
00:30:89 (6) - I don't like how the repeat sign does not snap to anything. I would probably make 2 separate sliders here
00:38:39 (5) - align with 4?
00:46:27 (1) - end on a whole note? (many of your other sliders seem to ignore the lyrics end and end on whole notes)
00:49:27 (5) - the repeat sign does not sound like it snaps to anything here
01:05:02 (1) - what is the end of this spinner snapped to?
01:28:27 (2) - end on a whole note?
if you don't agree with snapping the sliders to whole notes, pls change sliders such as 00:23:77 (3,1) to follow the lyrics (end a half note earlier)

Normal:
some of the sliders don't follow the lyrics very well. I would recommend you check through the song and make the notes follow the lyrics better. Examples of what I am referring to:
00:23:77 (5) - end a whole note earlier
00:25:27 (8) - end a half note earlier
the rest of the mod:
00:27:14 (3,4,5) - looks nicer if you align these with 1,2
00:29:77 (3,4) - nazi post: too close
00:43:27 (8) - align with 7
00:48:89 (4) - align with 3?
01:07:45 (1) - what is this spinner snapped to? (The humming does not seem to go with the spinner but tnothing else makes sense)
01:15:89 (1,2) - The spacing between these 2 is smaller than the spacing in the rest of the combo
01:26:77 (10) - please space correctly
02:01:08 (1) - I have no clue but this slider is snapped to at the repeat and beyond

Hard:
same slider problem as normal
00:53:95 (4,5) - turn off grid snap and put 4 under the end of 2 and put 5 under the beginning of 2(if you want to break distance snap) or in another direction altogether, because the current position looks pretty ugly
01:00:52 (1) - make the same distance from the red 1 as the orange 1
01:04:64 (6) - make the same distance from 5 that 4 is
01:22:27 (5) - new combo to show change in spacing
01:21:89 (3) - make the same distance from 2 that 1 is
01:48:52 (6) - align with 5
01:50:77 (12) - align with 11
02:01:08 (6) - same problem as normal

Star.
Topic Starter
gdeath
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JamesLeao
Yeah , i like this song , XD
tieff
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Topic Starter
gdeath

tieff wrote:

Wow! I very like map and song! I wanna create some nice custom stuff (hitcircle, sliderball, etc...) for you. I'll post it later, ok?
Decrease sample volume.
thanks a lot,i expect your stuff^_^

[Easy]
00:23:02 (2) - Whistle.
fixed
00:23:77 (3) - ^ on end.
fixed
00:41:39 (2) - So ronery whistle. T_T
fixed
01:09:52 (1) - Finish on end.
slider?could you explain it in detail?
01:35:39 (2,4,6,8,10) - Whistles. Really, try it.
fixed


[Normal]
01:23:39 (6,8,10,12,14) - Whistles.
fixed
01:57:89 (1,4,8) - Whistles. I think.
hamn...i think (1,5,9) - whistles maybe better

[Hard]
00:23:86 (6) - Delete.
fixed
01:09:52 (1,2,3) - Cruel jumps. But you can leave it, if you like.
fixed,i made it easier^_^
01:24:89 (5,7,9) - Whistles.
fixed
01:35:30 (1,2,3) - Huh?
problem of blue line?
01:39:24 (16) - Delete.
fixed
Star!
tieff
Skin.

It contains:
spinner-circle
spinner-metre
spinner-background
spinner-approachcircle
lighting
hitcircleoverlay
And 4 hitcircle.

About hitcircle... You can choice it. Just rename hitcircle1/hitcircle2/hircircle3 as hitcircle.

Download: Skin.rar
Topic Starter
gdeath

tieff wrote:

Skin.

It contains:
spinner-circle
spinner-metre
spinner-background
spinner-approachcircle
lighting
hitcircleoverlay
And 4 hitcircle.

About hitcircle... You can choice it. Just rename hitcircle1/hitcircle2/hircircle3 as hitcircle.
really thanks for your making the skin^_^
lukewarmholiday
Hard

The silent beats come out of nowhere and feel a little dumb, thats all I got for modding good job.
Topic Starter
gdeath

lukewarmholiday wrote:

Hard

The silent beats come out of nowhere and feel a little dumb, thats all I got for modding good job.
i agree wiht you.its fixed~
thanks for your modding^_^
alvisto
Hi ! ^o^ I really like this song ! Your selection of song is good ! And skin is nice too ! I hope someone can help me do my skin.... T^T

EASY
00:47:022 - This seems hard for easy. I used this kind of beats too in my easy, and many people said it's too hard for easy. So, depends on your decision la.
01:15:897 - Try making the slider start & end align in a straight vertical line.
Otherwise, it's perfect

NORMAL
01:24:334 - You had inserted a note at 01:12:334, so why not here ? Ok, ignore me, just realize you want to make stack notes. =P
Otherwise, it's good

HARD
00:51:897 - this finish sounds weird. >.<
01:17:772 - A silent note ? Maybe give it at least some sound ?
01:39:334 - 好像加多一个note here比较爽
Do you wanna map those areas after the spinner ? That parts sounds like got a lot of potential to map. =P

Your 1st Map ? Very good ! Star !
Topic Starter
gdeath
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Breeze
哟 gdeath
又有新map了啊
现在map进步很快啊,比我做的好呢...TAT
话说你在linking park那个map加的diff.很棒 awesome work


话说你map文件夹里的hicircle1,2,3是怎么回事- -,不要的就删掉吧...貌似我看见别人的hitcircle了...
hit sound基本没有,只有soft的whistle,BAT会抱怨的- -最好加些其他的hit sound
KIAI time设置的很不对劲,不要还好些,这种soft的歌还是不要好了
加个原创的spinnercircle吧,默认的不怎么好看,也可以加个hitcircleoverlay
这给你个:


这次真的是随便看看...:

[Easy]
没什么问题,great

[Normal]
hitcircle大些玩起来会更有意思的
00:41:397 (3) - 还是以前说到过的遮挡问题,不是和以前的note完全重合的话,看起来很不爽,当然这只是我个人的意见
00:41:397 - add break
01:15:897 (1) - 遮挡
01:29:397 (3) - ^
01:35:397 (6) - ^

[Hard]
hitcircle也该大一点,难度完全可以靠其他的弄上去,太小就没那么有意思了,容易点飞
00:53:959 (4) - 和前面(2)的结尾对齐

great map
star!
Topic Starter
gdeath

Breeze wrote:

哟 gdeath
又有新map了啊
现在map进步很快啊,比我做的好呢...TAT
话说你在linking park那个map加的diff.很棒 awesome work
多谢(# ̄▽ ̄#) (羞


话说你map文件夹里的hicircle1,2,3是怎么回事- -,不要的就删掉吧...貌似我看见别人的hitcircle了...
okay
hit sound基本没有,只有soft的whistle,BAT会抱怨的- -最好加些其他的hit sound
okay
KIAI time设置的很不对劲,不要还好些,这种soft的歌还是不要好了
fixed
加个原创的spinnercircle吧,默认的不怎么好看,也可以加个hitcircleoverlay
这给你个:
[attachment=0:a5f95]hitcircleoverlay.png[/attachment:a5f95]
万岁 \(‵▽′)/

这次真的是随便看看...:

[Easy]
没什么问题,great

[Normal]
hitcircle大些玩起来会更有意思的
fixed
00:41:397 (3) - 还是以前说到过的遮挡问题,不是和以前的note完全重合的话,看起来很不爽,当然这只是我个人的意见
这里我其实是故意做成遮挡来增加难度的。hm...我在考虑下
00:41:397 - add break
01:15:897 (1) - 遮挡
01:29:397 (3) - ^
01:35:397 (6) - ^

[Hard]
hitcircle也该大一点,难度完全可以靠其他的弄上去,太小就没那么有意思了,容易点飞
fixed
00:53:959 (4) - 和前面(2)的结尾对齐
fixed

great map
star!
kino77
其实我是跟踪Breeze来的这
gdeath 酱的ava好Q~
先撒颗星~晚些再来看看~ :)
tieff
Topic Starter
gdeath
Thank you tieff. <(_ _)>
Great work. :)
Topic Starter
gdeath

kino77 wrote:

其实我是跟踪Breeze来的这
gdeath 酱的ava好Q~
先撒颗星~晚些再来看看~ :)
先谢谢你的星星啦 ヽ(⌒~⌒)ノ
Yes_old
Awesome mapp (: STAR!
Symbolic
[Easy]

00:22:27 (1,2,3) - Move these 2 level 3 grids to the left for symmetry and then respace the rest or put everything 2 level grids to the left.
01:23:39 (3) - New combo.
01:29:39 (3) - ^
01:35:39 (2) - ^
02:00:52 (TIMING SECTION) - Remove the Kiai Time, it doesn't fit.


[Normal]

00:57:52 (4) - New combo.
01:57:52 (TIMING SECTION) - Remove the Kiai Time, it doesn't fit.
02:00:52 (TIMING SECTION) - Remove the Kiai Time, it doesn't fit.


[Baka tieff]

00:43:27 (1) - Remove new combo.


[Hard]

00:30:89 (1) - Remove new combo.
01:00:52 (1) - ^
01:00:89 (1) - ^
01:01:27 (1) - ^
02:03:14 (x) - Add a note here.
02:03:52 (x) - Add a note with finish or whistle here.


Fun map, boring song :P
Starred *
Topic Starter
gdeath
Symbolic<<nice mod!all fixed.thank you.
XepherX3
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Breeze

kino77 wrote:

其实我是跟踪Breeze来的这
gdeath 酱的ava好Q~
先撒颗星~晚些再来看看~ :)
被尾行了////不要推倒我 |o|
T>A<kuma~~~
eee
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Topic Starter
gdeath

x3ns0r wrote:

[video offset]
-300
FIXED

[easy]
sound on last section on 3 tick from left
add section on end of spinner with sound off
i can not understand what's the meaning,can you speak more specifically?

[normal]
same as easy

[hard]
same as easy

starred

eee wrote:

[Hard]
00:54:14 (5) - one level 3 grid to the right
01:04:27 (4) - ^
01:10:08 - wanna add a note here, and placing it under (2), idk, would be nice
01:56:02 (11) - one more reverse? eh, just what I would do

nice modding,all fixed
star
tieff
Mafiamaster
Easy~
01:47:39 (2) - New combo.
01:54:89 (7) - Suggestion: Add a finish at the end.

Normal~
01:06:14 (1) - Add a finish.
01:24:89 (5,6,7) - Looks kind of clustered. Not really good in a Normal difficulty. =\

Tieff's~

This doesn't have the video added. Add it please~
01:30:14 (3) - Move this note up so it's not cut off from the bottom of the screen.

Hard~
01:03:14 (1) - This doesn't sound good. Maybe just make it into a single circle?
Topic Starter
gdeath
Mafiamaster<<nice mod!all fixed
SteRRuM
Hi!
[Easy]
  1. 01:21:89 (2) - Cut by 1/4,
  2. 01:30:89 (5) - Cut by 1/4.
[Normal]
  1. Fine.
[Baka tieff]
  1. Fine. >.<.
[Hard]
  1. 01:30:89 (8) - Stack manually on (7)s end,
  2. 01:35:77 (2) - Why this slider isn't straight? o.o.
Ahh, now i'm moar sleepy than before :<.
xierbaliti
good map :)
aio_sama
:arrow:
Topic Starter
gdeath

SteRRuM wrote:

Hi!
[Easy]
  1. 01:21:89 (2) - Cut by 1/4,
  2. 01:30:89 (5) - Cut by 1/4.
[Normal]
  1. Fine.
[Baka tieff]
  1. Fine. >.<.
[Hard]
  1. 01:30:89 (8) - Stack manually on (7)s end,
  2. 01:35:77 (2) - Why this slider isn't straight? o.o.
nice mod.all fixed. ^^
Starrodkirby86
Change Source from "Narcissus opening theme" to "Narcissu".

Correct tags from "vedio game" to "video game". Maybe you should add opening theme in tags here, too.

[Easy]:
01:09:52 (1,2) - Shorten sliders by 1/4 each...oxo

I think that's it...*sleeps*
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gdeath
Starrodkirby86<<--- all fixed.thank you <3
Takuma
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