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Timbaland ft. One Republic - Apologize

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Film11
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 18 August 2009 at 19:16:21

Artist: Timbaland ft. One Republic
Title: Apologize
BPM: 118
Filesize: 10886kb
Play Time: 02:48
Difficulties Available:
  1. Azure_Kyte's Mix (4.71 stars, 317 notes)
  2. Hard (3.56 stars, 197 notes)
  3. Normal (1.62 stars, 120 notes)
Download: Timbaland ft. One Republic - Apologize
Download: Timbaland ft. One Republic - Apologize (no video)
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Hello! This is my first beatmap, so please go easy. :)

I think the timing/offset is OK, but not completely sure so please check it for me!
I tried to vary it up as much as possible. This might have had the effect of making it a bit crappy at the choruses, especially at the last as I was running out of ideas a bit.
There are no hitsounds at all. I'll be honest, not exactly sure how to use them properly. Please offer general advice!

If people want to map other difficulties please go ahead. I might work on an easier one sometime (although at 1 star this seems to be rated pretty easy anyway... probably just me :P)

07/07/2009: Added a few hitsounds and changed slider tick rate to 2 in second timing section
07/07/2009: Added more beats in various sections in an attempt to make it more worthy of 'Normal' difficulty
09/07/2009: Snapped almost all notes using distance snap. (Thanks to Sushi971)
09/07/2009: Added breaks at 00:20:593, 00:53:392 and at 02:24:917 (Thanks to Azure_Kyte)
09/07/2009: Pretty much finished "Hard" difficulty. Please have a go at it and tell me what you think :-)
12/07/2009: Nexy's fixes. Changed some sliders a bit in normal difficulty to try and make it more interesting. Changed hitsounds as well. Added Kiai mode in final section (please tell me if it's awful and should be removed)
13/07/2009: A few changes to Hard diff. Added Azure_Kyte's difficulty.
14/07/2009: Sushi179's changes added. tieff's changes added (for Normal/Hard, will wait for Azure_Kyte to respond to teiff's modding).
14/07/2009: Updated Azure_Kyte's difficulty after tieff's modding. I think there was a bit of confusion because I forgot to download the updated beatmap before using the BSS again. Sorry about that.
17/07/2009: Moved to Pending.
20/07/2009: Added James2250's and blissfulyoshi's changes.
25/07/2009: Added new better looking background image, and WyndII's changes to Hard.
26/07/2009: Added Azure_Kyte's updated difficulty.
30/07/2009: Added Saturos-fangirl's changes. Also changed the colour scheme - give me your feedback!
07/08/2009: Added Wojjan's changes for Normal/Hard difficulties.
07/08/2009: Added Wojjan's changes for Azure_Kyte's difficulty.
13/08/2009: Added al2e10's changes for Normal/Hard difficulties and updated Azure_Kyte's heavily revised difficulty.
18/08/2009: Resnapped all notes. Added minyeob's changes.
Last edited by Film11 , edited 15 times in total.
Azure_Kite
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Azure_Kite
Your beatmap is pretty good. Timing feels right, beats are aligned etc,

The only thing I can really come up with is to place short breaks at 00:20:593 and 00:53:265.

How is the other difficulty coming along? Starred for now :)
Film11
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This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.
mosluv
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mosluv
This is pretty good for your first map.

Normal:
00:27:96 (6) - Spacing inconsistency.
02:32:54 (8) - New combo.

Hard:
00:27:96 (8) - Spacing inconsistency.

I think the chorus should be Normal hitsounds on volume 7 or 8; try it out.
00:49:83 (4) - Clap.
00:57:96 (7) - ^
00:58:47 (9) - Clap @ end.
01:52:88 (13) - Clap.
02:32:29 (14) - New combo.

Normal is kind of boring and you could use some better hitsounds. Play around with the hitsounds a bit to get something even better than what you have now. The patterns could also be a bit more creative. Since this is a slow song, it's kind of hard to map it in a way so it will be fun. Just put more time in it and see how you can make it more fun. Not trying to be rude here D:!
Film11
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Azure_Kite
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This map has been deleted on the request of its creator. It is no longer available.

Download: Timbaland ft. One Republic - Apologize (Film11) [Azure_Kyte's Mix].osu
Last edited by Azure_Kite , edited 1 time in total.
Film11
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Azure_Kyte wrote:

[Hard] I can't see this map being classified as hard, maybe normal?

anyways,
0:53:392: move these three beats forward a quarter beat and delete (7)
1:01:527:^
1:46:527:Move to 1:47:036
1:46:782:Move to 1:46:527
1:54:663: Same thing here as the 1:46 parts
1:55:426: Make the slider reach the end at the first white tick and reverse the slider an extra time.
1:58:222:This slider sound wierd. to fix this, shorten the slider so that it reverses at 1:58:731. Then add an extra reverse and delete (11) at 1:59:748
Hey. I'm having trouble agreeing with your first 5 suggestions here :? It just doesn't sound right to me without the quick triple beat.
Your last 2 are great however, I was pondering on the last slider for a while and your fix is great. Thanks a lot :)

Thanks very much for your difficulty! It's very speedy O_O Here are a few issues:
00:28:47 (1) and 00:30:50 (1) - These two spinners are not rankable I think. Autoplay cannot get a bonus of 2000 (which is required). The latter one doesn't really fit in well with me personally either.
01:35:34 (4) - This slider is shaped a bit oddly. I think you accidentally double clicked to make a new curve section.
01:41:44 (12) - Same with this one. 2 curve sections here, even one at the end for some reason.
01:45:508 - Why did you halve the volume here? The hitsounds can barely be heard :P

Other than that, great work! Thanks so much for making it for me. Here's your slightly delayed kudosu.
Sushi
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Sushi
[Normal]
01:16:27 (7,8) - stack these better

[Hard]
01:02:79 (8,9,10,11) - try making these parallel
01:50:08 (9,10,11) - looks like spacing is a little weird here.

[Azure_Kyte's]
00:18:30 (3,4) - align
00:28:47 (1) - this spinner is not rankable. It has to Auto 2000.
00:29:49 (1,2,3) - symetry
00:30:50 (1) - not rankable
00:31:52 (1,2,3) - symetry
00:38:38 (7,8) - align better?
00:41:69 (6,7) - make this one more symetric and afte, align (7) better
01:24:91 (3,4) - align
01:34:83 (2,3,4) - try to make these really symetric
01:59:74 (4,5,6,7) - make these symetric?
02:20:34 (2,3) - ALIGN
02:21:35 (7) - sounds weird imo
02:27:20 (8) - too close from the edge. people with the scoreboard always on (like me) won't like this
02:29:23 (6,7) - align better



This is a pretty nice map for a first one :)
You clearly have my star
I'll be following your maps ;)
Azure_Kite
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Sushi971 wrote:

[Azure_Kyte's]
00:18:30 (3,4) - align [Done]
00:28:47 (1) - this spinner is not rankable. It has to Auto 2000. [Done]
00:29:49 (1,2,3) - symetry [Done]
00:30:50 (1) - not rankable [Done]
00:31:52 (1,2,3) - symetry [Done]
00:38:38 (7,8) - align better? [Done]
00:41:69 (6,7) - make this one more symetric and after, align (7) better [Done]
01:24:91 (3,4) - align [Done]
01:34:83 (2,3,4) - try to make these really symetric [Done]
01:59:74 (4,5,6,7) - make these symetric? [Done]
02:20:34 (2,3) - ALIGN [DONE]
02:21:35 (7) - sounds weird imo [Tough] (imo)
02:27:20 (8) - too close from the edge. people with the scoreboard always on (like me) won't like this [Fixed]
02:29:23 (6,7) - align better [Done]
Download: Timbaland ft. One Republic - Apologize (Film11) [Azure_Kyte's Mix].osu
Film11
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Thanks for uploading the fixed map Azure_Kyte. One tiiiiiny issue: 00:42:71 (7,8,9) - 9 isn't aligned with 7 and 8. If you want I can fix it myself or you can upload a fixed version... or maybe it was intended all along?
tieff
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tieff
Nice maaaap.

[Normal]
00:17:28 (2) - Whistle.
00:19:32 (5) - ^
00:24:40 (1) - Whistle on end.
00:27:45 (5) - Whistle.
00:33:55 (2) - ^
00:41:69 (2) - Whistle on start.
00:43:72 (4) - Whistle.
00:57:96 (2) - Clap on start.
00:59:49 (6,7) - Spacing.
01:14:23 (3) - Clap.
01:16:27 (7) - Clap instead whistle.
01:30:25 (4,5) - Spacing. Sorry for nazi.
01:30:51 (5) - Clap instead whistle.
01:32:29 (8) - New combo?
01:32:54 (9) - Clap.
01:38:64 (3,7) - Claps.
01:41:44 (9) - Clap on end.
01:49:83 (7) - New combo?
01:57:96 (7) - ^

[Hard]
00:16:27 (1) - 00:44:23 (8) - Make whistle like I say in normal diff.
00:34:06 (6,7) - Spacing. Sorry for nazi.
01:19:83 (1,2) - Spacing.
01:21:35 (1,2,3,4) - Space better.
01:56:95 (8) - Add note with clap.
02:01:273 - Redo break.

[Azure_Kyte's Mix]
Add more hitsounds. But not random.
00:28:47 (1) - Unrankable spinner.
00:30:50 (1) - ^
00:48:81 (5) - New combo.
00:49:70 (8) - Remove clap.
01:01:78 (5,6) - Spacing.
01:46:65 (4) - Remove clap.
01:49:57 (9) - New combo.
01:54:78 (4) - Remove clap.
02:27:20 (8) - Finish on start.

Star.
Azure_Kite
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tieff wrote:

[Azure_Kyte's Mix]
Add more hitsounds. But not random. [...they weren't random] [fixed]
00:28:47 (1) - Unrankable spinner. [it gets 2000 in Auto; apparently that's the rankable number]
00:30:50 (1) - ^ [same for this]
00:48:81 (5) - New combo.
00:49:70 (8) - Remove clap.
01:01:78 (5,6) - Spacing.
01:46:65 (4) - Remove clap.
01:49:57 (9) - New combo.
01:54:78 (4) - Remove clap.
02:27:20 (8) - Finish on start.
Download: Timbaland ft. One Republic - Apologize (Film11) [Azure_Kyte's Mix].osu
Film11
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tieff wrote:

Nice maaaap. Why thank you :)

[Normal]
00:17:28 (2) - Whistle. Done
00:19:32 (5) - ^ Done
00:24:40 (1) - Whistle on end. Done
00:27:45 (5) - Whistle. Done
00:33:55 (2) - ^ Done
00:41:69 (2) - Whistle on start. Done
00:43:72 (4) - Whistle. Done
00:57:96 (2) - Clap on start. Done
00:59:49 (6,7) - Spacing. Done
01:14:23 (3) - Clap. Done
01:16:27 (7) - Clap instead whistle. Done
01:30:25 (4,5) - Spacing. Sorry for nazi. Think that's done.
01:30:51 (5) - Clap instead whistle. Done
01:32:29 (8) - New combo? Lyrics are definitely related, so I don't think there should be a new combo here.
01:32:54 (9) - Clap. Done
01:38:64 (3,7) - Claps. Done
01:41:44 (9) - Clap on end. Done
01:49:83 (7) - New combo? I don't think this should have a new combo, it's part of the same "set" of lyrics I think
01:57:96 (7) - ^ ^

[Hard]
00:16:27 (1) - 00:44:23 (8) - Make whistle like I say in normal diff. Done
00:34:06 (6,7) - Spacing. Sorry for nazi. Fixed I think. The small changes make a difference!
01:19:83 (1,2) - Spacing. Done
01:21:35 (1,2,3,4) - Space better. Done
01:56:95 (8) - Add note with clap. Done
02:01:273 - Redo break. Not sure what you meant by this? I deleted and reinserted it anyway to fix any errors.

Star. Thanks a lot :)
Azure_Kyte: I made the small fix I mentioned earlier with your map (00:42:71 (7,8,9) - 9 isn't aligned with 7 and 8). Please confirm that it's alright. I'll be waiting for your new version after you've looked through tieff's modding :D !
Azure_Kite
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Film11
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James2250
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normal:
00:20:33 (7) - move forward 1/4?
01:17:29 (8) - sounds better to me if you shorten by 1/1..then add clap to end of it... but you would have to add some notes after it then >_> (maybe on every white tick)?

hard:
00:20:33 (7) - move forward 1/4?
00:35:59 (8) - move 1 level 3 grid to the right? *nazi*
00:38:64 (12) -move 1/4 forward then extend by 1/4
01:28:47 (2) - move slightly closer to 1
01:31:52 (7) - extend to white tick?
01:43:22 (1) - extend by 1/2
01:47:29 (7) - dont like claps on this

azure mix:
01:02:03 (6) - spacing
01:31:52 (7) - extend to white tick?
01:32:79 (3) - make endpoint of slider over the 2?

coming along nicely have a star :)
blissfulyoshi
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Remember, spacing usually is consistent within a combo.

Normal:
I am really wondering if you want to snap to lyrics or not. Their are quite a few notes on this diff that are a quarter note off from the lyrics, but you snapped them to the whole or half notes.
00:28:47 (7) - spacing
00:38:13 (7,8) - spacing
make your 2x timing section inherited
01:43:22 (1) - make a half note longer
01:49:83 (7) - new combo

Hard:
same lyric problem as easy
00:35:59 (8) - align with 7
00:44:23 (8) - you ended on a quarter note...
01:49:83 (8) - new combo to show change in spacing
01:57:96 (9) - new combo

Azure:
00:19:83 (4) - if spacing was right, wouldn't this be stacked under 1?
00:41:69 (6) - align with 5?
00:58:22 (8) - align with the start of 5
01:40:17 (8,9) - make parallel with 6,7?
01:40:42 (9,10) - make parallel with 7,8?
01:53:64 (3,1) - random jump

I don't really like how the first 2 diffs sort of go with the lyrics and sometimes only go close.
Star.
Azure_Kite
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blissfulyoshi wrote:

Azure:
00:19:83 (4) - if spacing was right, wouldn't this be stacked under 1? [No; It really doesn't]
00:41:69 (6) - align with 5? [Done]
00:58:22 (8) - align with the start of 5 [Done]
01:40:17 (8,9) - make parallel with 6,7? [Done]
01:40:42 (9,10) - make parallel with 7,8? [Done]
01:53:64 (3,1) - random jump [Fixed]

Sorry Film for not fixing earlier ;P

Download: Timbaland ft. One Republic - Apologize (Film11) [Azure_Kyte's Mix].osu
Film11
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Thanks Azure_Kyte. I've put your difficulty in, and I'm currently going over the other suggestions for my diffs. It might take a while since I am trying to fix the issues with lyrics in some places. I'll edit the post when I'm done.

edit:
normal:
00:20:33 (7) - move forward 1/4? Moved in line with lyric.
01:17:29 (8) - sounds better to me if you shorten by 1/1..then add clap to end of it... but you would have to add some notes after it then >_> (maybe on every white tick)? Changed this a bit.

hard:
00:20:33 (7) - move forward 1/4? Moved in line with lyric.
00:35:59 (8) - move 1 level 3 grid to the right? *nazi* Attempted to fix.
00:38:64 (12) -move 1/4 forward then extend by 1/4 I tried to move this inline with the "waiiit".
01:28:47 (2) - move slightly closer to 1 Why? Distance snap thinks it's fine where it is.
01:31:52 (7) - extend to white tick? Done
01:43:22 (1) - extend by 1/2 Done
01:47:29 (7) - dont like claps on this Clap now only sounds on the start of the slider.
Normal:
I am really wondering if you want to snap to lyrics or not. Their are quite a few notes on this diff that are a quarter note off from the lyrics, but you snapped them to the whole or half notes. I've tried my best to fix this. Please tell me if there are any glaring inaccuracies you can still find :)
00:28:47 (7) - spacing Fixed
00:38:13 (7,8) - spacing Fixed
make your 2x timing section inherited Done
01:43:22 (1) - make a half note longer Done
01:49:83 (7) - new combo Changed by popular request

Hard:
same lyric problem as easy
00:35:59 (8) - align with 7 Done
00:44:23 (8) - you ended on a quarter note... And..? It's where the word ends :S
01:49:83 (8) - new combo to show change in spacing Done
01:57:96 (9) - new combo Done
Thanks for all your hard work!
mtmcl
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I have no complaints. Bubble.
WyndII
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WyndII
The image is small. it's like it's pix elated.
[Hard]
01:33:68 (11) - new combo


[Azure_Kyte's Mix]
I wonder what DS did you use, or you didn't use DS pro'lly
00:16:01 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - look at your spacing here, compare it to 00:24:40 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4,5,6) -
01:39:66 (6) - new combo
please put hitsounds at the beginning
Film11
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Added a new image and made WyndII's change to hard. Azure_Kyte: please redownload the osz before making changes to your map so that it has the new image in, thanks.
Azure_Kite
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Download: Timbaland ft. One Republic - Apologize (Film11) [Azure_Kyte's Mix].osu
mtmcl
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Bubble restored!
Mashley
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Azure_Kite
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Download: Timbaland ft. One Republic - Apologize (Film11) [Azure_Kyte's Mix].osu
Last edited by Azure_Kite , edited 1 time in total.
Film11
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Saturos-fangirl wrote:

[Normal]
00:20:08 (7) - my normal metric for deciding when a break is necessary is, if the last note before the blank area fades out before the first note after it fades in, you need a break. So you need a break here Added
00:58:73 (3) - spacing ..? My newbie side is showing, I can't see the problem here :(
ends kind of...anticlimactically I think it sounds right ending where it is.


[Hard]
00:20:08 (7) - fix your break Done.
02:24:15 (8) - new combo Done.
mtmcl
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Bubble restored again...
Wojjan
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Wojjan
NORMAL
01:21:35 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 1 lvl 3 grid up. you'll see why.
01:27:20 (1) - 1 Lvl 3 grid up: start aligned with (7), end aligned with (8)
02:01:01 (9) - End Normal here. Overly long maps get boring.

HARD
01:21:35 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Move 1 lvl 3 grid up like in normal
01:27:20 (1) - Same
02:01:01 (5) - End here as in Normal

AZURE_KYTE'S MIX
00:26:69 (4) - Move 1 lvl 3 grid right
00:27:20 (6) - Move 2 lvl 3 grids right
00:27:45 (7) - Make this a straight slider

3 things for every diff. Yay. Starr*
Film11
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Wojjan wrote:

NORMAL
01:21:35 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - 1 lvl 3 grid up. you'll see why. Done. I don't see why though :p
01:27:20 (1) - 1 Lvl 3 grid up: start aligned with (7), end aligned with (8) Well spotted.
02:01:01 (9) - End Normal here. Overly long maps get boring. I don't think 2m30s is overly long :?

HARD
01:21:35 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11) - Move 1 lvl 3 grid up like in normal As above.
01:27:20 (1) - Same As above.
02:01:01 (5) - End here as in Normal As above.

3 things for every diff. Yay. Starr* Thanks!
Please do not bubble until Azure_Kyte's difficulty has been updated, thanks! Updated.
Last edited by Film11 , edited 1 time in total.
Azure_Kite
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Download: Timbaland ft. One Republic - Apologize (Film11) [Azure_Kyte's Mix].osu
al2e10
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al2e10
HIHI !!
I have some opinion with your map ^^

[Azure_Kyte's Mix]
01:23:898 (1) remove clap
(are that haven't finish ??)

[Hard]
00:36:101 (9) remove finish
00:38:135 (11) new combo
00:44:237 (10) finish on 00:45:762
00:53:516 (5) remove clap
01:01:652 (5) also
01:23:771 (8) also
01:33:686 (1) star at 01:33:813 finish at 01:34:576

[Normal]
00:36:101 (5) remove finish
00:38:135 (7) new combo

[ALL]
nice map ^^
STAR
Film11
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Azure_Kite
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Heya Film; a couple of major changes to my map; Check it and see if you like it XD

Download: Timbaland ft. One Republic - Apologize (Film11) [Azure_Kyte's Mix].osu
Film11
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Azure_Kyte wrote:

Heya Film; a couple of major changes to my map; Check it and see if you like it XD
I really love it! Well done :)

Are the timing sections correctly set up (near the end) however? There seems to be Kiai time lasting 0.13 seconds right at the end. Just wondering if you meant it to be earlier on or what.
Azure_Kite
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Film11 wrote:

There seems to be Kiai time lasting 0.13 seconds right at the end. Just wondering if you meant it to be earlier on or what.
That's the big bang at the end of the spinner; Once the song ends, fireworks will come out ;P
mtmcl
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Bubble repair one more time. If it's popped again, ask another BAT to bubble it and then I'll be willing to mod it again.
deepsea
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Some notes aren't snapped on timeline, Timing-Resnap All Notes for all difficulties.

Other than that I see no problem, fix this and pm me then I will rank it.
minyeob
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I came. Because you're a new mapper lol

[Hard]
01:24:15 ( ) -> How about adding a note on here?
01:33:55 (1) - You have to extend this 1/4 beat after resnapping.

Star for you! Good luck XD
Film11
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deepsea wrote:

Some notes aren't snapped on timeline, Timing-Resnap All Notes for all difficulties.

Other than that I see no problem, fix this and pm me then I will rank it.
Fixed.

minyeob wrote:

I came. Because you're a new mapper lol

[Hard]
01:24:15 ( ) -> How about adding a note on here? Already is one after resnap.
01:33:55 (1) - You have to extend this 1/4 beat after resnapping. Done.

Star for you! Good luck XD Thank you!
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