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Mysterypea
Pretty popular game. It started the innovative training and song games ( well. A big revolution i must say )
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Oddbrother
DDR:
I used to be a major fan of the DDR series. But as of today, it disappoints because of their US home console versions, because there are too many home-version exclusive songs, so very few of them good, and not enough songs created by the DDR All-Stars. In the middle, they got Extreme 2 right. Only the arcade versions have the best songs.

I'm currently playing on Trick/Standard/Difficult level. I do play some Maniac/Heavy/Expert songs, but I can't clear songs that are 8 or higher, or are high VOLTAGE or CHAOS.


Stepmania:
The first time I laid eyes on this (September 1998), I jumped for joy. What better than to make your own songs to step to? But from what I've seen with a lot of Stepmania communities, keyboard step-charts are overrated. This I believe! Also, [cough]carpal-tunnel syndrome![/cough]

When Roxor games got hold of the Stepmania engine to make their arcade and PS2 game, In the Groove, I was quite surprised by their song list and graphics. When they made In the Groove 2, that's where it grabbed me by the arms. What better than to show off to your friends by dancing to your own stepcharts and songs?

From the bad side, Konami sues Roxor for the game, takes their rights, and goes on with the series, making me lose all due respect for them, and going back to playing their trails as they get messier and messier. :(


Currently owned:
Dance Dance Revolution (PC)
Konamix (PSOne)
Disney Mix (PSOne)
DDRMAX (PS2)
DDRMAX2 (PS2)
Extreme (PS2)
Extreme 2 (PS2)
SuperNOVA (PS2)
SuperNOVA2 (PS2)


Favorite Game: Disney's Rave/Disney Mix (PSOne)
Not only does it have you reminisce on your childhood with some good and some classy songs, but also they don't disappoint when they see players want a challenge. Usually most kids DDR games are far too easy. But in this game, they help you enjoy your past while sticking to your present performance at the same time. Also, it was the first to introduce a new game mode (apart from Konamix), Magic Rave.

Favorite Song: B4U by Naoki
The song pretty much represents the game itself (apart from Dance Dance Revolution by DDR All-Stars), and the steps fit very well to my appeal, though I have yet to form a freestyle routine out of it.
awp

Oddbrother wrote:

DDR:
Stepmania:
The first time I laid eyes on this (September 1998), I jumped for joy. What better than to make your own songs to step to? But from what I've seen with a lot of Stepmania communities, keyboard step-charts are overrated. This I believe! Also, [cough]carpal-tunnel syndrome![/cough]
I much prefer stepmania over DDR and proverbially jumped for joy when I discovered it as well, because DDR tends to have about half a dozen good songs per disc. I once was absolutely amazing at using the keyboard, but I prefer to dumb the difficulty down to ~5 or 6 step and dance on a mat (thank you, ps2/usb conversion input device). Even though the only mat I have is stuffed in a closet at my parents house and probably doesn't work, back in the good ol' days I had lots of fun, mainly with the video game packs.
Starrodkirby86
Discuss I shall!

I began DDR in Fourth Grade and immediately sucked. After a life-changing experience in 6th Grade, I became hooked and bought Extreme for PS2 (US of course). In about a week or so, I came from a Light to Heavy. Of course, I have played very much, and can pass the majority of ten footers and such, which makes me happy. Not to be a boaster, but people call me crazy and I'm one of the best in my middle school. I get in grown toenails from playing too much in arcades. Consequently, I get rusty over time. But not in terms of rhythm. It's more in stamina. That's a big weakness I have.

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For Stepmania, I got it after I became the Avid DDR fan. Great stuff it is. I created over 128 simfiles, which are downloadable at sites (Not all). I'm not an uploader at Bemanistyle for one, and other cases I sucked making them. It's similar to beatmapping experience, especially Eiji's. :P
I play it online (Hence the signature), and I'm at a stable rank. I think I have over 2500 songs, which is 8 gigs. :P

And by the way, I remember this subject a long ways ago...o.o; Oh well.
EiJi
I discovered Stepmania many years ago and have since been playing it. Used to be a daily thing, ~5 hours a day. But now days I may only chip in an hour a week.

I can pretty much do any heavy song that isn't too fast, about over 200 bpm. I use keyboard and only use one hand. I tried learning two hands, but never for the intention of using two to play. I was gonna try and two player with both hands, seemed like a fun idea.

As for my Stepmania, I have over 7gb of songs.
Risse_old
Have played DDR (Stepmania/ITG) for 3 years. In ITG can clear most 8's. 9's and 10's if I have good luck. :P

I've had 4 pads now, newest one is Impact Dancepad modded with wood. Still dreaming of a Cobal Flux. :/
Starrodkirby86

Risse wrote:

Have played DDR (Stepmania/ITG) for 3 years. In ITG can clear most 8's. 9's and 10's if I have good luck. :P

I've had 4 pads now, newest one is Impact Dancepad modded with wood. Still dreaming of a Cobal Flux. :/
Don't we all?

All of my pads are crap. They're soft, flimsy ones worth twenty dollars that I had to rebuy three-four times or something. :P

If you want to go more specfic with difficulties, on DDR the highest I can do is 10 (But not all), and on Stepmania the highest I can do is 15 (But not all since a lot of 15 footers stepped by people have atrocious jacks at a high BPM). It's fun doing 16ths on a BPM like 250. :D
Card N'FoRcE
I discovered it about a year and a half ago and i bought a dance pad about 6 months ago.
I can do levels until 4-5 feet and I enjoy it a lot.
Anyway I also play StepMania for keyboard levels.

Maybe it's because I like every kind of musical game :D
Cecilthemos
I play Arcade DDR only (About 3 hours each Friday)
Stepmania I play in my freetime.
I got into DDR in 6th grade (4 years ago)
But didn't get into it until a year ago.
Favorite song is Hana Ranman by Terra.
The hardest song I can do on foot is Max 300 on Maniac (Working on Unlimited)
I can do a lot more 10s on Stepmania though, and one 14 step.
[deleted user]

Oddbrother wrote:

Stepmania:
The first time I laid eyes on this (September 1998)
Uh, Stepmania didn't exist in 1998. :)

Oddbrother wrote:

When Roxor games got hold of the Stepmania engine to make their arcade and PS2 game, In the Groove
Roxor didn't get a hold of anything. The developers were made up of a lot of the main people who worked on Stepmania.
Loginer
I can't clear anything higher than a 7-footer. <_< ;_; >.> :'<
With a mat, that is. I hate using the keyboard. :3
Starrodkirby86

sanchny wrote:

Oddbrother wrote:

Stepmania:
The first time I laid eyes on this (September 1998)
Uh, Stepmania didn't exist in 1998. :)

Oddbrother wrote:

When Roxor games got hold of the Stepmania engine to make their arcade and PS2 game, In the Groove
Roxor didn't get a hold of anything. The developers were made up of a lot of the main people who worked on Stepmania.
I think he was confused with DDR in 1998. :P

And yeah, but the ITG game was mainly composed of the Stepmania engine, but you probably knew that...

Anyone play online here, like 4.0? :geek:

Loginer wrote:

I can't clear anything higher than a 7-footer. <_< ;_; >.> :'<
With a mat, that is. I hate using the keyboard. :3
Aw, poor you. I know you have the rhythm and probably the sight-reading, so all you really need to do is learn the crossovers and the fact you need to move the body quicker. :D
awp
My brother is excellent at DDR. I've seen him clear 9 and 10 step songs on the mat, and it's not a pretty sight. You need to move your feet so fast you don't have any time but to look like a spaz with constipation.
Starrodkirby86

awp wrote:

My brother is excellent at DDR. I've seen him clear 9 and 10 step songs on the mat, and it's not a pretty sight. You need to move your feet so fast you don't have any time but to look like a spaz with constipation.
Lol, likewise here, except I'm the one that's spazzing on the pad. :O

It's pretty though. Except on bar, it's more tame. :( It's easy to read the ten footers even on x1, so if it looks like a mess than oh well. I wonder why people are in awe about these performanc--oh wait, yeah now I know. :P
Cecilthemos

awp wrote:

My brother is excellent at DDR. I've seen him clear 9 and 10 step songs on the mat, and it's not a pretty sight. You need to move your feet so fast you don't have any time but to look like a spaz with constipation.
Not trying to say you're bad at DDR, but it's always funny to hear how people see people who can do the hardest songs, doing the Maxes feels natural to me, but to someone like you, it looks like a spaz-attack.
awp
He's not dancing at all though - he's stomping on the right arrows, at the right time.

I can keep up with the lower songs at 7 foot or so well enough, but I like my comfort zone of ~5-foot songs. Gives me room to do spins, face the wrong way, drop onto my hands, etc.
chan

awp wrote:

He's not dancing at all though - he's stomping on the right arrows, at the right time.
I thought that was what DDR was all about :S

Actually looking coordinated and in control is just too hardcore for me.
Mogsy
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awp

chan wrote:

Actually looking coordinated and in control is just too hardcore for me.
That's why I play on a difficulty easier than what I'm capable of =}

I find it to be more fun.

Or, if I'm drunk at the time, I can't keep up with anything more. And often when I'm playing DDR I'm also drunk. Though I haven't played DDR very often at all in the last two years (perhaps twice?).
Starrodkirby86

Mogsworth wrote:

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

Anyone play online here, like 4.0? :geek:
I would if StepMania 4.0 didn't suck so bad. D:
As for DDR/ITG/PiU skills...nonexistent. I barely do the medium difficulties on pad.
StepMania...keyboard only, 10-12 footer keyboard files, J5.
And I've only been playing SM for about three years, if you count the time I gave up all DDR-related rhythm games for Pop'n.
4.0 is such a frail version, but I highly dislike the latest build by the StepMania group. I use the one that Dog_E suggested (Which Dog_E is some moderator I believe over at the SMOnline community). That one is more efficient, like they didn't remove the animated banners and online works A-OK.

On the regards of DDR being dancing, it's not true dancing. Freestyling to DDR is dancing however, which I feel is a very good thing to do. If I can still remember all of Spin the Disc on Heavy, I can freestyle that. :D It's very nice.

Lastly, if you stay at one certain difficulty you'll never fledge on to harder heights..try a cata sometime. :D
machol30
I've only played DDR once, and I don't really enjoy using the dance mat. <_<

I like playing Stepmania a whole lot more. I've been playing it for like 3-4 months now, so I'm alright at it I suppose.
Anyone play online here, like 4.0? :geek:
No, haven't tried it... yet. :P
Starrodkirby86

buraimaster1234 wrote:

I've only played DDR once, and I don't really enjoy using the dance mat. <_<

I like playing Stepmania a whole lot more. I've been playing it for like 3-4 months now, so I'm alright at it I suppose.
Anyone play online here, like 4.0? :geek:
No, haven't tried it... yet. :P
It's great, though I am not forcing you to go play on it, it's a nice thing. Though lots of people on there are either keyboard players or people who love to play...*grunts*Otaku's Dream. >_>

Well, anyway, if you want to play against anyone else that isn't the other group who downloads only the Stepmania.com stuff, you have to get keyboard or anime packs. Depends on which side you want to be.

http://www.houkouonchi.net/packs/ is a great place for keyboard packs

and

http://www.freewebs.com/otakusdream/ is the official Otaku's Dream website.
Mogsy
Otaku's Dream. Imagine, tons of crappy files and then a bunch of crappy anime mixes. Combine the two and you have the biggest amount of fail known to man.

Also, even the SMO version of SM 4.0 is shaky. Especially in simfile making. 4.0 in general hasn't been as good, in my eyes. But hey, they need to work out the kinks. Until then, I'm fine playing by myself.

Let's see...the packs I've got...
Bursurk Lurk Originals
Community Keyboard Megapack (CKMP) 1
CKMP 2
CKMP 3
Essential Sim Collection
Fabulously Fresh Flock of Fantastic Files F5
Fresh Flock of Fantastic Files F4
Keys of Flame
Kilga (Kilga Originals)
ODIpack
Puritanical Penis Pack II (PPP2)
Red Fraction Pack
SMGpack (SMGroove pack)
SMGpack 2
Touhou Project
Video Game Megapack (VGMP) 2
Zaghurim (Zaghurim Originals)

I don't have nearly as much as I did before, thanks to being forced to move to different computers so many times.
Starrodkirby86
4.0 is not good in simfile creation. I use 3.9 for my editing needs. Anyway, since you are featuring the packs you have, I might as well do mine:

Pump it Up Mixes from 1st to Xceed
DDR 1-8 (Along with some other stupid ones)
Community Keyboard Mega Pack 1 and 2
Keyboard Mega Pack 1 and 2
Keyboard Collaboration 1, 2, and 3
Puritanical Penis Pack 1 and 2
Lots of SS Packs, I think 1-4, 21, 23, and 27, along with some game ones
Xclusive Mega Pack

And any other stuff I missed. Though this is just some, I excluded the ones I thought were minor and what-not.
Mogsy
lol stepmania score
hint: I ubersuck ):
And I play with FailOff only because I can't stand the DANGER, YOU'RE ABOUT TO FAIL, YOU SUCK :U screen. But if I fail a song, I immediately exit.

Death Moon: CKMP2 13 footer.
Erm, I normally don't do this bad.
Cecilthemos
I use Stepmania mostly to practice reading so I can do DDR, but I should try downloading some packs, any recommendations?
Mogsy

Cecilthemos wrote:

I use Stepmania mostly to practice reading so I can do DDR, but I should try downloading some packs, any recommendations?
Here's a bunch of keyboard packs, and some pad packs. Tell me if any of the links don't work, alright? Since I know PPP doesn't work.
Cecilthemos
Thanks, one more thing, do you know where I can download any announcers (specifically the DDR one)
I haven't been able to find any.
Mogsy
Starrodkirby86
I use stepmaniathings.com to find my resources. They have a Yoshi announcer. :D

Anyway, this is my atrocious play.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=fgVjx4RDDlw
Emerald Sword, Community Keyboard Mega Pack 1.
AA, Two greats...I sucked. :X

Yeah, I didn't think you played that well on Death Moon, I can get an A on a less C. Other than that, it's still a good job nonetheless, especially since you were sucking.
Cecilthemos
Wow, you guys rock!
I should've gotten more stuff for Stepmania a long time ago, all this stuff is awesome.
Mogsy

Starrodkirby86 wrote:

Yeah, I didn't think you played that well on Death Moon, I can get an A on a less C. Other than that, it's still a good job nonetheless, especially since you were sucking.
My arms tend to give up on me whenever I play StepMania for some reason. All of those terrible combo breakers were really from one section of the song. Exhaustion + hold + jumptrill = evil. Although, what 13-footer isn't evil?

EDORT: Never mind, A on Mou Uta Shika Kaokenai. I guess just most other 13 footers are evil. :\
Starrodkirby86
Strangeprogram is one of my favorite thirteen footers. Another one is Vertex Beta, if that is a thirteen at the least, I can't remember. XD

A lot of thirteen footers gain you an A, but the easier ones are an AA. The especially hard ones like a jack is a B. :P

Death Moon is especially annoying for those same reasons. It's hand filled goodness, but it's not that good. XD
Also, you can see how well I'm doing on Stepmania on the signature at the bottom. It says Gaarafan4910. :3
Mogsy
Yarr, I need to give you the Touhou Project, and I'll show you some incredible 13 footers. The lowest in the pack is one 10 footer (besides a 1 footer that should be an 11 or 12) and the highest is a 15 footer (which should also be like a 12). There are plenty of 12-14 footers in it, and if that isn't enough, it's got tons of great songs.

Strangeprogram tends to annoy me, but hey, it's one of the more annoying Sharpnel songs out there.

And I take it you play spread? I play a strange take on spread. x3
S = Left, left index finger
L = Down, right index finger
E = Up, left middle finger
P = Right, right middle finger

And time for another nonimpressive score, but it's (don't laugh) my first AA on a 13 footer:

Starrodkirby86
Impressive. I think the Brain of the Moon is in PPP1, so I can play that there. And the fifteen footer, is it by any chance the Marisa song by IOSYS? In PPP1, there's that song and I know it should be Touhou related, along with the fact it's an extremely easy fifteen footer. Hey hey, because you had your picture of a Stepmania achievement, here is mine.

Just got this today. ^^
Mogsy
*bows* I am not worthy. T-T
And yeah, Marisa is the file.
Revision to that BotM score. Second time every playing it. :3
Cecilthemos
I don't like playing anything except for pad-made simfiles, the keyboard ones are just not fun for me.
For some reason, on those sites you guys gave me, none of the characters work, it says some sort of file is missing, but they auto-installed themselves...
Spamer_old
It is a not bad game :D .I love it.
Starrodkirby86

Spamer wrote:

It is a not bad game :D .I love it.
Don't we all? :mrgreen:

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If the characters do not work, go to stepmaniathings.com . That site also has a galore of characters, announcers, and themes. You can also go to the official Stepmania site if you want.

EDIT: Nevermind, that site might not work huh? Do you have BONES? BONES is the model maker that all the characters follow. It's about a 6 MB download if I remember correctly, and I think you can download it from the Stepmania site or soemthing. You need BONES to run the characters properly.

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I'll play the Brain of the Moon and let's see what I get. I hope it's a great rank, highly doubt AAA.
Starrodkirby86
Just played the Brain of the Moon. It angered me when I got one good.

Let the picture explain itself. After all, a picture is worth a thousand words, am I right?

Cecilthemos
Supernova 2 Arcade! My local arcade (Golf 'n Stuff Ventura, CA) got it!
One of 2 in the US. And it only costs 1 dollar for 2 people! I'm going to spend a lot of my time there now...
Supernova 2 Soundtrack is great imo.
Starrodkirby86
:cry:


I want SuperNova 2 nearby my area........


You sir, are very lucky.


But if a SuperNova 2 is not available, I'll go head over heels for a Pump it Up NX2 Machine. :3


Still at the same state as Ventura, but I'm not sure if it's a long way. Nevertheless, I have no chance going there, I know. So yeah...
Cecilthemos
A bit north of LA, but the other Supernova 2 in the US happens to be at Arcade Infinity in LA, but I went there a few months ago, and it kinda sucked.
There are a lot of cool games, but you can't hear anything.
Starrodkirby86

Cecilthemos wrote:

A bit north of LA, but the other Supernova 2 in the US happens to be at Arcade Infinity in LA, but I went there a few months ago, and it kinda sucked.
There are a lot of cool games, but you can't hear anything.
Usually, popular arcades or areas that are vastly populated...when they have a DDR machine, it gets tarnished and ruined so badly you cannot even pass a ten footer on that (That is, if you can on other machines :P). Nevertheless, sometimes the condition of the machine get really bad from people stomping, frustrated, acting crazy, dropping their foods or drinks on the machine (Spilling, though people aren't that clumsy) and whatnot...

The hearing thing is a problem, but I'm able to tolerate...unless I have no clue what that song is and it has speed changes. :o
Cecilthemos
The machine at Golf 'n Stuff was turned up and it's in pretty good condition, I've never seen one that's in unplayable condition though.
Starrodkirby86

Cecilthemos wrote:

The machine at Golf 'n Stuff was turned up and it's in pretty good condition, I've never seen one that's in unplayable condition though.
Oh at Fresno some of the areas definitely terrible machines. There is an ITG2 Machine that accepts the USB, therefore you can get your steps on the machine, but the pads are so broken there's no point in playing. And somewhere at Las Vegas has an ITG2 machine where even stomping won't attract much attention. You'll instantly fail any song...well, nearly.
Card N'FoRcE
Some days ago I went to Barcelona because of a schooltrip.
Well, I found an EuroMix2 and a SuperNova2!
I was going there everyday :roll:
Even now that I have a metal pad (much better than soft pads) and I can do levels up to 7-8 feet I couldn't help myself to try the originals. They both worked well and there were good players, I was a bit surprised!

But now I have to stay without those :cry:
Well, my metal pad is a great replacement anyway :D
Jing Yuan
It has aged very well.

I posted in an old thread just to see the reaction.
Rantai
Holy necro.

And I could have sworn there was a much more recent thread somewhere.
Gifu
This kind of games never get old. For example, i heard about stepmania just a year ago, and recently have started to play it regularly. Osu's Taiko + this is a good way to get physical excercise!

http://www.stepmania.com/forums/songs/show/251

Here you go, large database of Stepmania songs that is very simple and clear to use! It is really comprehensive :)
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