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If the right has no empathy, then why do we donate so much more to charity than left-wingers? And here you're saying 'I WANT TO DENY TRUMP SUPPORTERS ANY HAPPINESS POSSIBLE'. So no, don't tell me that the left has more empathy or compassion. When you complain and attack Trump supporters like you're doing, you can't simply attack them for posting memes in twitter and acting smug. Because if anything, liberals have been acting way worse. Even if they have been acting bad, if you respond in kind it makes you just as bad as them.Raspberriel wrote:
Re: B1rd asking why I have a burning disdain for DJT supporters -- just saw these two tweets that express my general sentiments about them:
"DT supporters are not going to come around. What they love about him is their own character flaw: never admitting you made a mistake."
"A lot of us are spending way too much time trying to appeal to the empathy of people who do not value empathy. We gotta back up on that."
Let's just disregard social issues, all the "PC police" talk, etc. for the time being, because if I didn't, this post would be five times as long. They don't care that he just reauthorized the building of the Dakota Access Pipeline, built by a company whose previous pipelines were responsible for 69 spills in the past 2 years, or that legislation preventing coal companies to dump their waste into rivers was just blocked. All because Trump, McConnell, etc. and a good portion of their voting base have some fetish for keeping coal mining relevant in a world where literally every other developed country is moving to other forms of generating energy. They don't care that they're destroying their own country's environment because "MUH FOSSIL FUEL JOBS." Hell, they probably don't know this even happened because the only news sources they listen to didn't report on it. Why? It all goes back to the first tweet I mentioned.
I don't see the first tweet as true for all Trump supporters, though. The supporters complaining about his repeal of the ACA (not just the people who thought Obamacare and the ACA were separate things), the few protests to Trump's travel ban that cropped up in red states, etc. show that not all of his supporters worship him like a messiah like I see everywhere on social media. But the ones that do, the ones that always rub it in your goddamn face on Twitter, Reddit, YouTube, and presumably Facebook too, and can never formulate an argument beyond "LOLOLOL WE WON, LIBERALS BTFO" are the ones that piss me off to no end. (P.S. When I said yesterday, in my blind haste, that I "don't wanna see any Trump supporters happy ever again," those people are who I was talking about.)
I don't know why right-winger would protest Trump for the very reason they voted him in, that makes no sense. I agree that people can be overly lenient to their own side, but that is hardly restricted to the right. I didn't see the left protesting Obama's dropping of 10,000 bombs in the middle east. Let's see, Obama kills thousands of innocent civilians including women and children? Silence. Trump wants to temporary restrict immigration from the countries Obama has destabilised and allowed America-hating terrorist groups to take root in? Outrage!
maybe when i'm not cranky as hell from a mix of being sleepy and reading through the abomination that is yet ANOTHER /r/the_donald front-page post
why the hell do i do this to myself
i feel like i wouldn't say half the stupid shit i say if i didn't follow politics this much
why the hell do i do this to myself
i feel like i wouldn't say half the stupid shit i say if i didn't follow politics this much
I hate this thread now. Ugh.
I find reading some posts on this forum is less entertaining than reading the terms of service or some product or online service, at least I don't feel the need to make a comment every time someone posts something like that.
B1rd wrote:
I didn't see the left protesting Obama's dropping of 10,000 bombs in the middle east. Let's see, Obama kills thousands of innocent civilians including women and children? Silence.
I don't understand why right-wing people keep perpetuating this myth. The anti-war movement might've led America to pull out of Afghanistan in a faster and messier way than they should've, actually.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_ ... %80%932014)
(link kinda breaks itself due to forum formatting, but go check it out)
What myth am I perpetuating? I am citing sources provided directly by the government. What are you trying to say, that Obama had no part in that decision, or that bombing and drone strikes were somehow necessary?
No, you're saying that leftists were completely silent and didn't protest Obama bombing the crap out of the middle east. The anti-war movement was huge, and largely leftists.
I'll admit that I haven't looked into protests of the war. But I still get the feeling from liberals that Obama is "can do no wrong" type of guy, when with Trump, any flaw, existent or not, is blown out of proportion 10-fold. Look at all the horrific terror attacking in Europe that have stemmed directly from the lack of immigration control, why is it unreasonable for Americans to want to protect themselves from that? Rather, it is completely reasonable to block immigration from countries in which America is basically at war with, and this power has been invoked many times in the past, 19 times by Obama himself. The problem is, I get the feeling that liberal have already made Trump to be Hitler in their mind, and refused any possibility except to resist him in any way possible. It really is petty and immature and behaviour, and nothing good will come of it. The only thing that will happen is that Trump and the right will dig their heels in response, and things will escalate from there. I think that Trump can make America great again, but the way things are going he's only going to make half of America great.
The US government right now isn't exactly trustworthy.B1rd wrote:
What myth am I perpetuating? I am citing sources provided directly by the government.
Obama may have done bad shit, but he did it as necessary and properly, while still remaining a competent president.B1rd wrote:
But I still get the feeling from liberals that Obama is "can do no wrong" type of guy, when with Trump, any flaw, existent or not, is blown out of proportion 10-fold.
Trump is a fucking idiot who has gotten innocent people killed by doing precisely the opposite of what Obama decided to do.
If America wants to protect themselves from terror attacks, they should start deporting nationalist extremists. But no, instead they ban citizens from 7 innocent countries.B1rd wrote:
why is it unreasonable for Americans to want to protect themselves from that?
You mean Trump has made Trump be Hitler in reality.B1rd wrote:
I get the feeling that liberal have already made Trump to be Hitler in their mind
Again?B1rd wrote:
I think that Trump can make America great again
America has never been a great country.
If donny boy keeps going the way he is, there's going to be a revolution. People will not stand for his shit.B1rd wrote:
the way things are going he's only going to make half of America great.
These discussions could stand to use more citations, at the very least.
Oh, but didn't you hear? Trump can cite himself.Brian OA wrote:
These discussions could stand to use more citations, at the very least.
You're not doing the left any favours by saying retarded shit like "Trump is literally Hitler" or "America has never been great". C'mon, Mahogany.
Don't defend Obama's awful mistakes in foreign policy. A better explanation of why people like Obama is that they like him as a person, not as a politician. He comes off as a smart and nice guy, and he has been very professional too.
Don't defend Obama's awful mistakes in foreign policy. A better explanation of why people like Obama is that they like him as a person, not as a politician. He comes off as a smart and nice guy, and he has been very professional too.
just fuckin lol @ political discussions in 2017 tbh
Trump's own actions allow for many very valid comparisons. This isn't about "the left". Blame Trump, not me.
America has never been great. Are people referring to the post-WWII era? Tell me all about how the wealth from the war was shared from everyone. It wasn't. It was fervor and nothing else, and the country is lagging behind hard.
America has never been great. Are people referring to the post-WWII era? Tell me all about how the wealth from the war was shared from everyone. It wasn't. It was fervor and nothing else, and the country is lagging behind hard.
Obama sucked pretty hard on some of his policies tbh
but I did like Obamacare bc my mom is poor af and it saved her soooo much fucking money.
Same for me when I went into adulthood; grateful for it.
but I did like Obamacare bc my mom is poor af and it saved her soooo much fucking money.
Same for me when I went into adulthood; grateful for it.
B1rd and Mahogany aren't American, but they both post more about this subject than I do
What are meat prices like where you all live?
not a clue
even then, in relation and terms of what, exactly?
Mainly, lack of citation in this case.
even then, in relation and terms of what, exactly?
Doesn't mean you ought to start doing that, though. It would make things unnecessarily difficult for everyone if you ended up developing an ego as large as the same people you're criticizing along with all the shortcomings that entails.Mahogany wrote:
Oh, but didn't you hear? Trump can cite himself.Brian OA wrote:
These discussions could stand to use more citations, at the very least.
Mainly, lack of citation in this case.
I was more referring to b1rd's lack of citation but sure
We Wikipedia now.
Obama Suspended immgration from Iraq for 6 months in 2011: https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016 ... s_in_2011/
In 2015 congress passed, and Obama signed, a law restricting visas from states of concern. Trump's immigration ban is based off of these states of concern which had already been identified under the Obama administration: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... ore-127798
Some other tidbits:B1rd wrote:
I'll admit that I haven't looked into protests of the war. But I still get the feeling from liberals that Obama is "can do no wrong" type of guy, when with Trump, any flaw, existent or not, is blown out of proportion 10-fold. Look at all the horrific terror attacking in Europe that have stemmed directly from the lack of immigration control[1][2][3][4], why is it unreasonable for Americans to want to protect themselves from that? Rather, it is completely reasonable to block immigration from countries in which America is basically at war with[5], and this power has been invoked many times in the past, 19 times by Obama himself[6]. The problem is, I get the feeling that liberal have already made Trump to be Hitler in their mind, and refused any possibility except to resist him in any way possible. It really is petty and immature and behaviour, and nothing good will come of it. The only thing that will happen is that Trump and the right will dig their heels in response, and things will escalate from there. I think that Trump can make America great again, but the way things are going he's only going to make half of America great.
Obama Suspended immgration from Iraq for 6 months in 2011: https://www.rushlimbaugh.com/daily/2016 ... s_in_2011/
In 2015 congress passed, and Obama signed, a law restricting visas from states of concern. Trump's immigration ban is based off of these states of concern which had already been identified under the Obama administration: https://theconservativetreehouse.com/20 ... ore-127798
In relation to the average circumference of the thoraxes of your local cricket population. I don't know, but I'm pretty sure the price of meat are definite in their values. For example, I got some pork roasts today for $7 AUD/kg [SOURCE]Brian OA wrote:
not a clue
even then, in relation and terms of what, exactly?
Okay, I'll bite. Too lazy to quote properly because I'm typing on the phone.
Re: why would Trump supporters "protest a policy they voted for" -- not everyone voted for the same reasons. Try to deny it, but not all Trump voters are 100% devoted to Trump's decisions.
Re: my bitterness -- I'm really quick to anger, so you could probably disregard most things I say as rambling BS.
Re: the left's perception of Obama vs. their perception of Trump, I feel like the reverse is true for some Trumpers. People who ignore the fact that Trump wasn't sufficiently briefed about the Yemeni raid but constantly harped on Benghazi, or bashing Obama's "frequent vacation habit" and ignoring the fact that Trump decided to take the post-inaguration weekend off and begin duties on Monday. I wouldn't mind the latter as much if he didn't tweet that he thought Obama was gonna take a vacation the day after his second inauguration.
Also, I think it's pretty hasty to say all leftists treat Obama like a messiah. I've constantly seen criticisms of his foreign policy/drone strikes and his treatment of whistleblowers like Manning and Snowden, at least in the Bernie crowd.
Re: meat prices -- I'll have to pay attention better in the supermarket. I do remember that a decent-sized package of around 20 chicken wings goes for around 10 USD.
Re: why would Trump supporters "protest a policy they voted for" -- not everyone voted for the same reasons. Try to deny it, but not all Trump voters are 100% devoted to Trump's decisions.
Re: my bitterness -- I'm really quick to anger, so you could probably disregard most things I say as rambling BS.
Re: the left's perception of Obama vs. their perception of Trump, I feel like the reverse is true for some Trumpers. People who ignore the fact that Trump wasn't sufficiently briefed about the Yemeni raid but constantly harped on Benghazi, or bashing Obama's "frequent vacation habit" and ignoring the fact that Trump decided to take the post-inaguration weekend off and begin duties on Monday. I wouldn't mind the latter as much if he didn't tweet that he thought Obama was gonna take a vacation the day after his second inauguration.
Also, I think it's pretty hasty to say all leftists treat Obama like a messiah. I've constantly seen criticisms of his foreign policy/drone strikes and his treatment of whistleblowers like Manning and Snowden, at least in the Bernie crowd.
Re: meat prices -- I'll have to pay attention better in the supermarket. I do remember that a decent-sized package of around 20 chicken wings goes for around 10 USD.
Keemstar and Tana Mongeau are actually long-lost relatives
Was also referring to him, but I figured hed get the messageMahogany wrote:
I was more referring to b1rd's lack of citation but sure
I will check the price of pork roast per kilogram next time I go shopping
This is the level you're putting yourself on if you consider the word "Nigger" to be hilarious
The word itself is not offensive, but directing it to someone is offensiveDaddyCoolVipper wrote:
This is the level you're putting yourself on if you consider the word "Nigger" to be hilarious
the word ain't offensive, but how corny you are is offensive af
I just can't stop looking at your country flagBrian OA wrote:
The userbase is young, I suppose