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It's shitty af, tangerine nightmare is gonna be our presBlitzfrog wrote:
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tbh asians are pretty much stealing jobs in places like tech companies and bio research, but at the same time they also probably work a lot harder for it as well in their own way.ahsoka08 wrote:
I hate when ppl are like "they're stealing our jobs" like bitch if want a job go to a McDonalds and pick up an application, that's what the immigrants are doing, they're not stealing jobs, your dusty ass is just to lazy to get up and get one
then there's me
"A report released by the German Federal Office of Criminal Investigation in November 2015 found that over the period January–September 2015, the crime rate of refugees was the same as that of native Germans."B1rd wrote:
I don't know what your reasoning is behind claiming that immigrants are a net gain economically. This is veritably untrue and can be seen simply by looking at Europe; immigrants have cost many countries millions of dollars in housing costs and various welfare schemes. Many can't even speak English and they are the furthest thing you could be from being economically adapted to be a benefit to their country. What's more, they commit much more crime and generate lots of social unrest. They have lots of babies and their children continue to be a burden economically and contribute to crime rates.
"despite a 440 percent increase in migrants, crime among that group only increased by 79 percent last year"
etc
Pretty much every statistic I've ever heard has said that immigrants' crimerates are either the same or lower than that of natives. The first result suggesting otherwise was fucking Breitbart- can you link a reputable source for claims like "they commit much more crime"?
Immigrants cost governments a lot of money from welfare, but they're also working. Male immigrants in the UK have either equal or higher employment rates than natives of the country. The economic growth provided by immigrants working in a country's economy actually ends up benefiting all classes of people. I don't know specific statistics behind whether or not immigrants are a net cost because that depends on how much welfare they take in, and I don't have those numbers VS their economic output, but I really doubt that they cost the country THAT much. And I'm thinking of Europe when I say this, since you mentioned refugees. America is surely in a pretty damn good position when it comes to benefits vs costs considering that their welfare system is quite terrible.
"Incarceration rate for foreign born: 0.86%, i.e. about a quarter of that for the US born. (non-Hispanic whites 0.57%, non-Hispanic blacks 2.47%, Hispanics ranges from 0.2% to 2.2% based on country of origin, if we exclude Puerto Ricans, who are US citizens, Asians ranges from 0.1% to 0.9%)"B1rd wrote:
Now that's talking about 'refugees' from the Middle East. Illegal immigrants from Mexico aren't the same but they still share lots of characteristics. As Jordan mentioned, they are responsible for lots of crime and drugs.
i.e. non-US-born citizens commit crime about 1/4 as much, this is including illegal immigrants
Not necessarily, actually. Waiting lists for legal immigrants can be incredibly fucked up, so some people are willing to pay a lot of money to legally get across the border. That's not including the fact that a significant amount of people (40% being an acceptable estimate) immigrate by overstaying their visa after legally entering America, which doesn't really suggest much about how much money they have.B1rd wrote:
They also consume welfare at a lot higher rate than the natives, and I can't say for certain but this would indicate that they are not an economic benefit for a country. Obviously they can only work low-skilled jobs at best, otherwise they would be able to immigrate legally.
Holy fucking tinfoil hat, this is why you don't read too much Breitbart, that site kills braincellsB1rd wrote:
What's more concerning than this however, is their ability to shift demographics in their favour and influence a country's politics. You see, back in the Cold War when the faults of Communism were being exposed, left wing parties were understandably unpopular. Since they couldn't influence public opinion though facts, they actually resorted to importing voters from third-world countries. Statistically, people from third world and poor countries vote for left-wing, big-government policies and a much higher rate than white people. So it doesn't take much deductive ability to understand why the Democrats would want more immigration. They don't do so out of a desire to help other people, but to buy votes through a cycle or welfare dependence, which actually entrenches certain groups into inter-generational poverty.
I just feel like the main problem with your argument is that you say they're a net cost on the economy because of how much they use the welfare system, but you don't actually even know if they are or not. You're just using the "feels" argument pretty much, in that you ASSUME immigrants are a net cost just because they use more welfare than natives. It's easy to get emotionally attached to it, but try not to make that kind of argument if you don't actually have a clue about the statistics. There's a reason why I'm not saying anything myself about the subject- because I don't actually know the numbers myself. My assumption, based on supply-side economics, would be that all kinds of immigrants would be a boon to any economy since you're straight up increasing the supply (and therefore the economic power/potential) of labour for that particular economy.B1rd wrote:
Now, I am actually in favour of unrestricted immigration if we're talking about a proper libertarian society. There, there is no forced redistribution of resources to people, and they can't vote themselves money. So people are free to immigrate, but they will have to have valuable skills than can benefit the economy of their destination country. Otherwise there will be no point for them to immigrate if they can't make a living there. Also, there would be no state holding a gun to people's head forcing them to serve and hire people they don't want to. If say, a certain group immigrated to a country and caused a lot of trouble there, then likely they would be economically ostracised, by means of people not hiring them, or buying or selling to them.
So basically, immigration in itself is a good thing for economies, just not in our current society. The welfare states that we live in necessitate strong border control.
Statistics that I've seen seem to show a decent net gain (~30%+) when it comes to money spent vs money received through taxation (not to mention taxation isn't the only benefit), but those are just what I personally have seen, and haven't really gone in any depth to verify how precisely correct those are.
edit: final note, saying "ofc immigrants are a net cost, just look at europe! they cost money!" is a very silly argument when you're not going to talk about how much they produce
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hey cmon man i only asked for it like once or twice
and crackerslol wrote:
remove kebab, black and caramels
tbh just quit talking bout murrika if ya don't fuckin live here!!! 
I just met this stupid ass trump supporter who was cussing out my coworker today bc he couldn't find the shoe for him. Said he should be over the wall. So disappointed.
I just met this stupid ass trump supporter who was cussing out my coworker today bc he couldn't find the shoe for him. Said he should be over the wall. So disappointed.
America's actions affect the rest of the world a lot so no pls outsiders have good reason to talk about it 
oh no I was talkin about the whole immigrants thing
that's frustrating bc they are hard workin ppl
that's frustrating bc they are hard workin ppl
I'm gonna talk about it, if I want to.
ok go do it then!!!
I'm gonna.
dare ya m8.
oh yeah thats the truthHika wrote:
oh no I was talkin about the whole immigrants thing
that's frustrating bc they are hard workin ppl
fuck americans fuck all accept the england misters race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OT has no good threads today. Don't feel like putting effort. Life's a pain
Make America Great (Britain) Again?lol wrote:
fuck americans fuck all accept the england misters race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So brexit
sorry i don't speak englandolol wrote:
fuck americans fuck all accept the england misters race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fuck you all Poland masterrace
There's something I'd vote forRaspberriel wrote:
Make America Great (Britain) Again?lol wrote:
fuck americans fuck all accept the england misters race!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
No law-abiding citizen needs a high-capacity knife block. People are too irresponsible to be trusted with such dangerous weapons, and access to them might prompt otherwise normal people to go on murderous rampages at the slightest lapse of judgement. You think chopping vegetables is a valid reason? No. In our current society, highly-trained and professional French chefs are available at a moment's notice whenever you need to make that ratatouille dish. Stop making excuses.
We don't want to be associated with your kind anymoreRaspberriel wrote:
Make America Great (Britain) Again?
Props to all the long posts, guys. I mean, I never read any of them, but mad props, they seem quite lengthy and definitely made with effort!
what are you even sayingB1rd wrote:
STOP KNIVES SAVE LIVES
No law-abiding citizen needs a high-capacity knife block. People are too irresponsible to be trusted with such dangerous weapons, and access to them might prompt otherwise normal people to go on murderous rampages at the slightest lapse of judgement. You think chopping vegetables is a valid reason? No. In our current society, highly-trained and professional French chefs are available at a moment's notice whenever you need to make that ratatouille dish. Stop making excuses.
Stfu.Madvillain wrote:
Props to all the long posts, guys. I mean, I never read any of them, but mad props, they seem quite lengthy and definitely made with effort!
If you can't figure it out already, it would be too bothersome to explain.lol wrote:
what are you even saying
this is coming from the same person who complains about me being a "smug intellectual type"B1rd wrote:
If you can't figure it out already, it would be too bothersome to explain.
tfw you get silenced for typing something in the wrong chat Channel
parodying gun control advocateslol wrote:
:?what are you even sayingB1rd wrote:
No law-abiding citizen needs a high-capacity knife block. People are too irresponsible to be trusted with such dangerous weapons, and access to them might prompt otherwise normal people to go on murderous rampages at the slightest lapse of judgement. You think chopping vegetables is a valid reason? No. In our current society, highly-trained and professional French chefs are available at a moment's notice whenever you need to make that ratatouille dish. Stop making excuses.
You lost me here.B1rd wrote:
In our current society, highly-trained and professional French chefs are available at a moment's notice whenever you need to make that ratatouille dish.
"In our current society, highly-trained and professional police officers are available at a moment's notice whenever you need protection."abraker wrote:
You lost me here.B1rd wrote:
In our current society, highly-trained and professional French chefs are available at a moment's notice whenever you need to make that ratatouille dish.
In our current society, highly trained and professional memers are available at a moment of notice whenever you need them to meme
Deez nuts on your chin
Deez nuts on your chin
Hika wrote:
Stfu.Madvillain wrote:
Props to all the long posts, guys. I mean, I never read any of them, but mad props, they seem quite lengthy and definitely made with effort!
That makes more sense.johnmedina999 wrote:
"In our current society, highly-trained and professional police officers are available at a moment's notice whenever you need protection."abraker wrote:
You lost me here.
B1rd wrote:
No law-abiding citizen needs a high-capacity knife block. People are too irresponsible to be trusted with such dangerous weapons, and access to them might prompt otherwise normal people to go on murderous rampages at the slightest lapse of judgement. You think chopping vegetables is a valid reason? No. In our current society, highly-trained and professional French chefs are available at a moment's notice whenever you need to make that ratatouille dish. Stop making excuses.
I like feisty slaves.Hika wrote:
Stfu.Madvillain wrote:
Props to all the long posts, guys. I mean, I never read any of them, but mad props, they seem quite lengthy and definitely made with effort!