I see people asking for gd's only from experienced mappers, and i dont know if i consider myself one or not, because i have been mapping for about 7 months now. but is that long enough??
bro why dont you have any beatmaps monkaWAiq wrote:
being an experienced mapper is being able to easily apply logic to your maps in accordance to music. those mappers know how to use spacing, how patterns connect to music visually and through movement, etc. using the song they have chosen as their starting point.
however, if you wanted to know whether YOU specifically is an experienced mapper, well... no, you're not an experienced mapper. looking at your pending maps, they are well below average. spacing emphasis is next to non-existant, patterns are visually unappealing, the playability is not good either. even the hitsounds and new combo usage seems to be done wrong. it is common for new mappers' maps to not be good, everyone starts somewhere. mapping is about gaining experience and mapping more. considering different options, concepts and ideologies is a crucial point for someone just starting on mapping. you can improve, if you really want. i, myself, started mapping since the day i downloaded osu, and it took me around 2 years to make something that i enjoy that is rankable. you just gotta map more. (also i hope i wasn't too harsh as that was not my intention, i just want you to keep going for improvement and that is all)
hope this clears things up
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playing skill =/= mapping skillPentacoilz wrote:
i see now, im just bad at this game......
i meant bad at mappin.Zelzatter Zero wrote:
playing skill =/= mapping skillPentacoilz wrote:
i see now, im just bad at this game......
Sure playing can get you the hang of the order the mappers had put into the map so you can replicate, but lots of advanced skills can be achieved more through mapping than just playing, such as streams ordering, pattern choice, and so on.
The best time to start mapping is now. Don't hesitate.
bruh this is funnyJ_8579 wrote:
please add hs on your padoru set
bro im not ranking that.J_8579 wrote:
please add hs on your padoru set
well i see people calling themselves "experienced" but they registered like yesterday and have 20 graveyard mapsNao Tomori wrote:
imo experienced mapper means consistently able to make rankable sets or diffs, so like ~5 ranked maps
IMO no such person would exist, and would submit most of their maps which they consider good.Pentacoilz wrote:
what if the maps you have submitted are bad but you have lots of unsubmitted maps that are good(not saying mine are.. but they are better than my others.)
Everyone submits terrible maps at first. You will always be known as a "terrible mapper" until you actually post a good map and someone recognizes that.Pentacoilz wrote:
and people only know you for your bad submitted maps
Not really a matter about how long you've been mapping but how much you've been mapping. 10+ maps and I'd consider a mapper decent and 20+ is experienced. By the time you hit 20 maps, you should have a pretty good grasp of how to map and be trying to go for ranked maps. That's my opinion though. You can go at your own pace.Pentacoilz wrote:
I see people asking for gd's only from experienced mappers, and i dont know if i consider myself one or not, because i have been mapping for about 7 months now. but is that long enough??
Would "complete maps" be a better metric?Quozmox wrote:
Not really a matter about how long you've been mapping but how much you've been mapping. 10+ maps and I'd consider a mapper decent and 20+ is experienced. By the time you hit 20 maps, you should have a pretty good grasp of how to map and be trying to go for ranked maps. That's my opinion though. You can go at your own pace.Pentacoilz wrote:
I see people asking for gd's only from experienced mappers, and i dont know if i consider myself one or not, because i have been mapping for about 7 months now. but is that long enough??
or "criteria-abiding maps"renzthegreat wrote:
Would "complete maps" be a better metric?Quozmox wrote:
Not really a matter about how long you've been mapping but how much you've been mapping. 10+ maps and I'd consider a mapper decent and 20+ is experienced. By the time you hit 20 maps, you should have a pretty good grasp of how to map and be trying to go for ranked maps. That's my opinion though. You can go at your own pace.Pentacoilz wrote:
I see people asking for gd's only from experienced mappers, and i dont know if i consider myself one or not, because i have been mapping for about 7 months now. but is that long enough??
Aiq is absolute, no sarcasm involved.Aiq wrote:
i personally think there is no way to "create a formula" that classifies mappers as experienced or not. counting "rankable" or "criteria-abiding" maps is not really reliable because there are many graveyard mappers that just experiment with the game that have few or 0 ranked maps, but are definitely experienced (Akali and Silverboxer being great examples)
counting submitted / completed maps is not reliable either. people can just decide not to submit their maps or delete their maps at any time given it's on graveyard. even if every person submitted every map they made from the start of their career, it still wouldn't be accurate given people improve at different rates: somebody could make a rankable map after 10 submitted maps, while some others would still be struggling with fundamentals even after 50 submitted maps. trying to automate everybody under a system is impossible in circumstances like this.
counting someone's ranked maps is perhaps the most accurate way to tell if someone is experienced or not, but it's not even close to good enough, considering some people simply don't want to / can't rank maps. ranked mapper = good mapper, but good mapper =/= ranked mapper.
tl;dr it's a case by case scenario
this is so specific that i cant help thinking its me, dont worry, i consider myself as lazy unmotivated mapper that wants to rank every set in hybridPentacoilz wrote:
well i see people calling themselves "experienced" but they registered like yesterday and have 20 graveyard mapsNao Tomori wrote:
imo experienced mapper means consistently able to make rankable sets or diffs, so like ~5 ranked maps