abraker wrote:

12/10 flawless logic!

bambinex wrote:

there is a strategy that could save me and a loss to the village. Do not vote me THIS TURN and let the town cop use his ability on me this night. If I'm a mafia, he will know it and I will be lynched next turn anyway. But because I'm an innocent, the town cop will see that I am an innocent and I will not be killed, the village will not lose a townie. In all cases, the town is the winner here. As abraker said :

abraker wrote:

12/10 flawless logic!

igorsprite wrote:

bambinex wrote:

there is a strategy that could save me and a loss to the village. Do not vote me THIS TURN and let the town cop use his ability on me this night. If I'm a mafia, he will know it and I will be lynched next turn anyway. But because I'm an innocent, the town cop will see that I am an innocent and I will not be killed, the village will not lose a townie. In all cases, the town is the winner here. As abraker said :

abraker wrote:

12/10 flawless logic!

the mafia controls the night, that is why you are assuming that this night everything will occur as you planned? 👁️👁️

Yhuan Debeste wrote:

bamb has 5 votes now...

pentaqola wrote:

In any case I can't unvote and not vote at all, I'll probably pick igorsprite

YyottaCat wrote:

Tip: You are not only allowed to change your vote, but also unvote.

bambinex wrote:

Can you kill me now

YyottaCat wrote:

Night 1 will end at Apr. 28, 13:02 (GMT).

igorsprite wrote:

YyottaCat wrote:

Night 1 will end at Apr. 28, 13:02 (GMT).

( ° °)

YyottaCat wrote:

Last night, Yhuan Debeste has been found dead inside of their house. Further investigations are needed.

Yhuan Debeste was a Town Doctor.

YyottaCat wrote:

VOTE COUNT
The moment he gets 4 votes, he is eliminated. Voting/unvoting after that will not count. Bambinex can now post his last words or do nothing for 2 hours for it to become night. No one else may post except for bambinex in this phase.

Penguin wrote:

quick question, I thought that the majority had to vote for someone to get lynched. Since there were 9 players, didn't bambinex need 5 votes instead of 4? Technically, nothing would change since he did have 5 votes on him at one point, but I just want this clarified real quick.

Penguin wrote:

No way, 4/8 is still not the majority.

Penguin wrote:

The fact that Bambinex didn't give his role meant that he was either a vanilla townie or scum. So it was fine that we lynched him yesterday. It's not going to make us lose, it's honestly quite beneficial and gave us a lot of information.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

i am here now. also imma try to be more active from now on.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

Penguin wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

YyottaCat wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro has been prodded. No response in 24 hours will cause a replacement.

wtf is this shit?

if you don't participate you will get kicked. start talking, answer for your crimes. i know you're scum, don't lie to me, boy.

bugger off penguin. i'm as far away from being a mafia as i am from uranus.

one, i have life to take care off
two,

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

@ClevelandsMyBro anything to say about the situation? you're too quiet for me >.>

i mean i sussed out bambi from the begining and theres not much things going on after that that caught my attention.

1. "i'm as far away from being a mafia as i am from uranus"
2. "sussed out [townie] from beginning"

abraker wrote:

Ok the fact someone got killed means that scum is not inactive. That rules out sugar for now.

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

The fact that Bambinex didn't give his role meant that he was either a vanilla townie or scum. So it was fine that we lynched him yesterday. It's not going to make us lose, it's honestly quite beneficial and gave us a lot of information.

You sure left out the important part - the information. What you like to share what you have learned with the class?

Penguin wrote:

Pentaqola seems like a safe town read to me since she was the only one to retract her vote once Bambinex defended himself more. Pararunten also retracted his vote, to be fair, but I'm not super sure about him. He has been fairly inactive this whole time. I'd say he's off the shitlist for now though.

Cleveland is #1 on my shit list right now. He has BARELY participated this far and just showed up out of no where to smite down bambinex.

abraker wrote:

oh not to mention the convenient benefit of being inactive as scum. Which is why being inactive is always pro-scum

Penguin wrote:

This means that it is entirely possible that sugar can be an afk scum.

Penguin wrote:

abraker wrote:

Ok the fact someone got killed means that scum is not inactive. That rules out sugar for now.

That's not true, in the ruleset that we are playing, either scum can submit the kill for the night

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=NewD3


This means that it is entirely possible that sugar can be an afk scum.

Penguin wrote:

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

The fact that Bambinex didn't give his role meant that he was either a vanilla townie or scum. So it was fine that we lynched him yesterday. It's not going to make us lose, it's honestly quite beneficial and gave us a lot of information.

You sure left out the important part - the information. What you like to share what you have learned with the class?

I didn't leave out the information, I already explained the information that we gained lol.

abraker wrote:

So after reading Penguin's remark on ClevelandsMyBro I went through his ISO. A couple things jumped out at me:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

i am here now. also imma try to be more active from now on.

^ this is a long shot but, imagine being semi active, and suddenly being notified that you have to take action during night time. Hurr-durr mafia get to do things "Ohhhhh, ok I'll be more active now".

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

Penguin wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

YyottaCat wrote:

ClevelandsMyBro has been prodded. No response in 24 hours will cause a replacement.

wtf is this shit?

if you don't participate you will get kicked. start talking, answer for your crimes. i know you're scum, don't lie to me, boy.

bugger off penguin. i'm as far away from being a mafia as i am from uranus.

one, i have life to take care off
two,

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

@ClevelandsMyBro anything to say about the situation? you're too quiet for me >.>

i mean i sussed out bambi from the begining and theres not much things going on after that that caught my attention.

^ SO WTF IS THIS SCUM SMELLING BS?

1. "i'm as far away from being a mafia as i am from uranus"
2. "sussed out [townie] from beginning"

vote: ClevelandsMyBro

Ya got some explaining to do.

abraker wrote:

The following people did not vote for bambinex: Pararunten, pentaqola, and Yhuan Debeste. I suspect Yhuan got off'd for not voting on a townie and for attempting to convince others not to. By that extension my read on Pararunten and pentaqola is leaning town. Unless mindtricks are being played, scum would def want to covertly participate in the bandwagon. Which leaves ClevelandsMyBro, igorsprite, and Penguin.

igorsprite wrote:

this doesn't discard the possibility of Pararunten be a scum because he changed his vote after pentaqola, he might thought "oh bambinex is already dead, i don't need to expose myself".

Pararunten wrote:

so, you are a scum?

igorsprite wrote:

just a theory, i'm not 100% sure about this, but i think that abraker is the 1st scum and he combined the vote for bambinex with ClevelandsMyBro. now abraker is sacrificing his partner, that is why ClevelandsMyBro voted for himself.

pentaqola wrote:

okay, just to give my role, i am not the town cop. i am a townie, thats it.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

im using the last 64 braincells in my brian to make this post so here we go.

yes. i am indeed a scum. you can be certain and vote me out. obviously i tried the silent and inactive method and that backfires real bad. all of the shit i said about having a life was all complete bs.

ClevelandsMyBro wrote:

as for my fellow scummers, it is between penguin, igor, paraunten, or abraker. thats all i can say.

igorsprite wrote:

seems cleary to me that ClevelandsMyBro is a scum now, but we still have other 2 scums among us.
my guesses are:
1st is abraker, igorsprite or penguin

2nd is ClevelandsMyBro

3rd is Pararunten or sugar_owo

igorsprite wrote:

just a theory, i'm not 100% sure about this, but i think that abraker is the 1st scum and he combined the vote for bambinex with ClevelandsMyBro. now abraker is sacrificing his partner, that is why ClevelandsMyBro voted for himself.

bambinex wrote:

this is the weirdest game I've ever seen

igorsprite wrote:

seems cleary to me that ClevelandsMyBro is a scum now, but we still have other 2 scums among us.
my guesses are:
1st is abraker, igorsprite or penguin

2nd is ClevelandsMyBro

3rd is Pararunten or sugar_owo

igorsprite wrote:

@pentaqola, i need you to give your role, because if you say that you aren't the town cop, sugar_owo will be, then consequently Pararunten will be the 3rd scum.

Penguin wrote:

there is only 2 scum lol

I feel like igor might be pretending to be dumb and pretend like he doesn't know a single thing about the mafia, when in fact, he does know that there are 2 mafia, because he is mafia! or maybe he just doesn't know how to read lol.

abraker wrote:

why would you think there are more?

abraker wrote:

penguin what do you think about Pararunten? You think he has a bit of that scum aura?

igorsprite wrote:

@YyottaCat we have 3 or 2 mafia?

Penguin wrote:

igor's theory about pararunten retracting his vote as to not draw suspicion towards him when he knew that bambinex was already dead could be correct.

Penguin wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

@YyottaCat we have 3 or 2 mafia?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=NewD3

we have two unless Yyotta cat fucked up.

YyottaCat wrote:

Penguin wrote:

No way, 4/8 is still not the majority.

It's half when we have an even number of alive players.

Penguin wrote:

Also, the fact that cleveland is sacrificing himself probably means that there is a big brain scum tactic going on, which means that both scum are active and atleast one of them is experienced and trying to pull some tricky moves.

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

Also, the fact that cleveland is sacrificing himself probably means that there is a big brain scum tactic going on, which means that both scum are active and atleast one of them is experienced and trying to pull some tricky moves.

That's easy to prove actually. Wait for cleveland lynch and see if he is a good or special role. If there was a night agreement for a big brain tactic I doubt it would involve sacrificing a special role.

abraker wrote:

Igor, you still havent refuted what I said about you here: community/forums/posts/8065591

You are next on the chopping block at this rate

abraker wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

seems cleary to me that ClevelandsMyBro is a scum now, but we still have other 2 scums among us.
my guesses are:
1st is abraker, igorsprite or penguin

2nd is ClevelandsMyBro

3rd is Pararunten or sugar_owo

Puts fellow scum partner on the spot to clear self of being scum ✔️

abraker wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

just a theory, i'm not 100% sure about this, but i think that abraker is the 1st scum and he combined the vote for bambinex with ClevelandsMyBro. now abraker is sacrificing his partner, that is why ClevelandsMyBro voted for himself.

Makes priority to throw the guy who sussed out his scum partner ✔️

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

• 
  Whoever has townie special role, use it on penguin. If he turns red or sus, role claim. If you get blocked, don't role claim. If penguin is not sus, then igor is on the chopping block. Penguin, if you happen to be the townie with special role, then don't role claim.
  
  Everything should fall in to place after that. Worst case, the scum gets a lucky kill on the townie. Second worst case is when townie and scum both role claim. It will be a 50/50 pick between the two. Third worst case nobody role claims which means the townie got blocked or penguin is the townie. In that last case it will def be the special role townie's last day.

1. Odds special role townie is killed this night: 33%
2. Odds special role townie gets role blocked: 33%
3. Odds special role townie is sugar: 25%
4. Odds penguin is special role townie: 25%

(1 - .33) x (1 - .33) x (1 - .25) x (1 - .25) = .67 x .67 x .75 x .75 = 0.2525

Penguin wrote:

YyottaCat wrote:

Penguin wrote:

No way, 4/8 is still not the majority.

It's half when we have an even number of alive players.

Why is it half when there is an even number of players? It should still be a majority. Also, how come the vote is set up as if sugar doesn't exist in the game? I know she's afk, but we should still play as if she's alive and in the game.

abraker wrote:

To no one's surprise. Ok now to wait for special role townie to give the news. . . if they will.

Penguin wrote:

I'm pretty sure he devised his plan so that the special town role didn't target him at all so that he could get away with a clean kill.

Penguin wrote:

Also, the fact that cleveland is sacrificing himself probably means that there is a big brain scum tactic going on, which means that both scum are active and at least one of them is experienced and trying to pull some tricky moves.

Penguin wrote:

abraker wanted the special town to target me, find out that I'm clean, then we would lynch Igor during the day, since igor was the only other possible scum under abraker's plan.

Penguin wrote:

Abraker knew that Igor wasn't the roled town since Igor claimed not to be previously, so he knew that he would be the easiest person to put blame on.

Penguin wrote:

After we lynched igor, abraker would then murder me in my sleep and would win the game since sugar_owo is afk.

Penguin wrote:

I'm very certain that the whole point of abraker's "plan" was to make sure the special town didn't target him, so he could get a clean kill.

Penguin wrote:

He could then throw igor under the bus then kill me the following night, securing his victory.

1. igorsprite
2. Penguin
3. pentaqola
4. abraker

abraker wrote:

@Penguin please explain how planning a lynch of a Mafia Rolecop makes sense cause imo it's the dumbest thing mafia can possibly think of

igorsprite wrote:

abraker wrote:

@Penguin please explain how planning a lynch of a Mafia Rolecop makes sense cause imo it's the dumbest thing mafia can possibly think of

but doing dumb things is a smart move to you because it's something you wouldn't do. also if you know all the townie roles, a mafia rolecop is useless

and why are you only trying to convince penguin? >.>

Penguin wrote:

Also, the fact that cleveland is sacrificing himself probably means that there is a big brain scum tactic going on, which means that both scum are active and at least one of them is experienced and trying to pull some tricky moves.

igorsprite wrote:

also if you know all the townie roles, a mafia rolecop is useless

abraker wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

also if you know all the townie roles, a mafia rolecop is useless

And how would you know all the townie roles?

igorsprite wrote:

after reading the wiki, i think we are playing this setup:
B3: Mafia Goon, Mafia Rolecop vs. Town Tracker, Town Doctor, 5x Town Vanilla

because yhuan was a doctor and clevelands a rolecop.

@abraker how a townie can be role blocked in this case?

abraker wrote:

@Penguin please explain how planning a lynch of a Mafia Rolecop makes sense cause imo it's the dumbest thing mafia can possibly think of

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

After we lynched igor, abraker would then murder me in my sleep and would win the game since sugar_owo is afk.

If I were scum I would have killed you instead of Pararunten because I believe it's proactive players like you who end up being a thorn. For scum, the game is best played by people who dont know what they are doing. You do know, so you would be a pretty good kill to make.

abraker wrote:

What if the special town already targeted me the other night?

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

abraker wanted the special town to target me, find out that I'm clean, then we would lynch Igor during the day, since igor was the only other possible scum under abraker's plan.

Well... yea, because I know I am town and penta sure isn't. Process of elimination says igor is the only one who could be.

Penguin wrote:

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

abraker wanted the special town to target me, find out that I'm clean, then we would lynch Igor during the day, since igor was the only other possible scum under abraker's plan.

Well... yea, because I know I am town and penta sure isn't. Process of elimination says igor is the only one who could be.

ah yes, my magnum opus. I knew that you would seal your own fate in one of your responses. in this statement that you just made, how come you didn't factor in pararunten at all??? He was still very much alive when you came up with this plan. How come it was only between me and Igor? Was it because you knew that you were going to murder pararunten at night?

igorsprite wrote:

abraker wrote:

igorsprite wrote:

also if you know all the townie roles, a mafia rolecop is useless

And how would you know all the townie roles?

the town doctor died and the town tracker seems to be afk, also:

igorsprite wrote:

after reading the wiki, i think we are playing this setup:
B3: Mafia Goon, Mafia Rolecop vs. Town Tracker, Town Doctor, 5x Town Vanilla

because yhuan was a doctor and clevelands a rolecop.

@abraker how a townie can be role blocked in this case?

Penguin wrote:

Since you were the one who called him out, it would help your case as a "townie" and take suspicion off yourself.

Penguin wrote:

Another thing that you say is something you would never do, killing me. You killing me is an obvious thing for you to do. Of course you wouldn't do it. Plus, it's a boring thing to do. We all know that you dislike boring games of mafia.

Penguin wrote:

easy, Cleveland was probably the one doing the kills. And before you go and say that it's stupid to make the rolled scum do the kills, it's not. It's not stupid in this case when the rolled scum is a noob and it's his first game of mafia and the scum goon is the experienced one.

Penguin wrote:

in this statement that you just made, how come you didn't factor in pararunten at all??? He was still very much alive when you came up with this plan. How come it was only between me and Igor? Was it because you knew that you were going to murder pararunten at night?

Penguin wrote:

It's not really that useful of a role, especially if you already found the last roled townie.