Hello, I'm Jaegii. I'm a student who started playing this game about 2 months ago, and since that time, I've spoke on forum posts, played hundreds of maps, modded, mapped, watched osu content, help manage a tournament, and learn more about the osu! community.
2 months is nothing in the osu world, lots of players have been playing for several years. Even though lots of players have been playing for less than a year, or a bit more than a year, they usually aren't allowed to have much of a voice in the osu community. Avid osu players who have been playing for several years have put lots of time into osu, and are really attached to the game (understandably), but an unfortunate thing I've noticed about these avid players is their dislike towards new players. And this certainly isn't everybody, but I can think of some examples.
TLDR, new beatmappers don't get enough good feedback leading to new mappers changing their mind about mapping and sometimes even quitting the game, new beatmappers need more feedback and better feedback and from this, we will get more mappers and more ranked maps. To complete this task we can encourage more new mappers to watch pishifat's videos through a PINNED FORUM POST if they don't get the answers they need from modding queues.
Note. I do not believe all experienced players and mappers downgrade worse players/mappers, what I'm saying is is that we need more people that advocate for new players and help them like Pishifat, this will bring more players into the osu community and the more players osu has, the further it progresses, and if you don't want osu to progress, I understand, but it can be good for you too. If osu gets bigger, more players will be motivated to push the limits, such as aetrna for example, if osu gets bigger, tournaments will have higher prize pools, and if you don't want osu to grow bigger because you want it to stay casual, it will stay casual, there will just be more humans in the world enjoying the same game you enjoy. Osu is a community game, and I believe it will always stay that way in an amazing way, no matter how much Osu grows.
I'm open for discussion about this topic, maybe I'm completely right or maybe I'm completely wrong.
P.S, if anybody is trying to mod my Ikari map, feel free ; )
2 months is nothing in the osu world, lots of players have been playing for several years. Even though lots of players have been playing for less than a year, or a bit more than a year, they usually aren't allowed to have much of a voice in the osu community. Avid osu players who have been playing for several years have put lots of time into osu, and are really attached to the game (understandably), but an unfortunate thing I've noticed about these avid players is their dislike towards new players. And this certainly isn't everybody, but I can think of some examples.
- Nobody wants to mod a bad map. New Mappers struggle to get feedback and mods from real modders, usually having to rely on players with similar mapping experience to get feedback from, which leads to bad feedback and new mappers not getting anywhere, despite them wanting to. I have posted on several modding queues, but it's completely up to the modder on what map they want to choose to mod. There isn't anything wrong with that, but these modders never want to mod these new mappers maps, because the truth is these new mapper's maps are simply bad. But without modding and proper feedback, we never know why our map is bad, and in cases where we are told why our map is bad, we rarely know how to make it better. This then turns into modders telling new mappers to map more, and sometimes this works, but there's also hundreds of wannabe mappers who have 100 graveyarded beatmap sets and no ranked sets. New mappers are told to map more, follow the ranking criteria, and then they are left alone to their own demise. These new mappers don't know how to map, but blindly mapping more and blindly following the ranking criteria doesn't help, we need good feedback from experienced mappers to know what is good and bad. I'm still a new, bad mapper, but something that has helped me learn more about mapping is Pishifat's videos. I'm kind of rambling my thoughts, but I believe that if more new mappers get better feedback, more feedback, and better instructions on how to map (great example of this is Pishifat's videos), that we will have more mappers who are creating rankable maps. The more mappers we get, the more modders we get, because lots of mappers need mods and decide to mod other people's maps in the process. Less stigma on new mappers = More mappers creating rankable maps = more modders modding maps and giving good feedback = more mappers = more diverse maps with each mapper's personal touch. The hardest step is undoubtedly the first, but if we can find a way to efficiently do this step then I believe the next steps will follow smoothly.
- How do we complete the first step efficiently? That is the biggest question. This is just an idea, and whether it is a good idea or not is up to the community's decision, but what if we add a 5th option in the Beatmap Submission System that says Having trouble in the modding queues and want some tips on how to improve your beatmap? Check these videos by a mapping expert! Then next to that, will be the button you can click that will bring you to a pinned forum topic with pishifats beatmapping advice videos. This is simply an idea that I believe will help osu move forward, somebody might immediately disagree with me and click off this forum after seeing the first couple of words "I've been playing this game for 2 months." Because like it or not, their is a certain level of belief of supremacy among more experienced players and mappers, somebody might read the beginning, conclude that I am inexperienced and new before reading the rest of the post, and click off.
TLDR, new beatmappers don't get enough good feedback leading to new mappers changing their mind about mapping and sometimes even quitting the game, new beatmappers need more feedback and better feedback and from this, we will get more mappers and more ranked maps. To complete this task we can encourage more new mappers to watch pishifat's videos through a PINNED FORUM POST if they don't get the answers they need from modding queues.
Note. I do not believe all experienced players and mappers downgrade worse players/mappers, what I'm saying is is that we need more people that advocate for new players and help them like Pishifat, this will bring more players into the osu community and the more players osu has, the further it progresses, and if you don't want osu to progress, I understand, but it can be good for you too. If osu gets bigger, more players will be motivated to push the limits, such as aetrna for example, if osu gets bigger, tournaments will have higher prize pools, and if you don't want osu to grow bigger because you want it to stay casual, it will stay casual, there will just be more humans in the world enjoying the same game you enjoy. Osu is a community game, and I believe it will always stay that way in an amazing way, no matter how much Osu grows.
I'm open for discussion about this topic, maybe I'm completely right or maybe I'm completely wrong.
P.S, if anybody is trying to mod my Ikari map, feel free ; )