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Jin - Yobanashi Deceive

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tutuhaha
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tutuhaha
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 星期日, 21 四月, 2013 at AM 1:38:30

Artist: Jin
Title: Yobanashi Deceive
Tags: Vocaloid IA Shizen no Teki P Mekaku City Records Kagerou Project
BPM: 260
Filesize: 19871kb
Play Time: 03:12
Difficulties Available:
  1. Dance (4.81 stars, 775 notes)
  2. Easy (1.39 stars, 132 notes)
  3. Hard (4.83 stars, 519 notes)
  4. Insane (5 stars, 660 notes)
  5. Normal (3.94 stars, 239 notes)
Download: Jin - Yobanashi Deceive
Download: Jin - Yobanashi Deceive (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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nice! try to play with HR!
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IA - Summertime Record
IA - Yuukei Yesterday
IA - Lost Time Memories
IA - Souzou Forest
IA - Kisaragi Attention
IA - Children Record
IA - Outer Science
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Dance 100%
Insane 100%
Hard 100%
Normal 100%
Easy 100%
Last edited by tutuhaha , edited 55 times in total.
Cloudchaser
2,327 posts
Joined May 2012
Cloudchaser
#1

/me runs
Lundlerol
651 posts
Joined May 2011
Lundlerol
hi~ tutuhaha
may i make this taiko map??
SapphireGhost
osu! Alumni
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Joined June 2010
SapphireGhost

tutuhaha wrote:

nice
Asked to testplay, so I'll put some things here.

General
- I'd capitalize the title as "Yobanashi Deceive".
- I think offset should be moved to 511.
- Edit to 1024x768 background?

Dance
01:33:280 (1,2,1,2) - Too unintuitive, something like this is maybe better.
02:01:434 (1,2,3,4,5) - Bad idea at this BPM. I can see what you're aiming for, but it didn't play well for me. Try this.
02:03:742 (1,2,3,4,5) - ^
02:24:511 to 02:39:280 - Really liked this part, like with Children Record I think you do the best with mapping the bridge. I like to see your ideas, so keep adding new and interesting things to your mapping.
02:45:742 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,1) - Really doesn't play well, I'd go with this.

Normal
00:08:819 (1) - Fix new combo.

That's all for now. Edit: Denied kudosu for this mod, the full mod can be found here.
Kiiwa
928 posts
Joined January 2010
Kiiwa
nice :)
wantuole
528 posts
Joined December 2010
wantuole
[General]
sg说过的bg size~
[Easy]
01:18:050 (1) - 这个slider横着如何？
02:15:281 (1) - ^
[Normal]
02:49:896 (1) - 02:50:357这里结束
[Hard]
01:28:088 +1 note?
01:30:857 ^ :D 感觉这两个加上会带感很多
[Dance]
nice diff
[Insane]
01:46:896 (7) - 和之前的2叠好?
02:52:896 (4) - ctrl+g？

good luck :)
captin1
osu! Alumni
2,595 posts
Joined February 2011
captin1
Hey! from my queue~

mostly just suggestions

so much oval flow :o

Easy

00:15:280 (1) - soft finish
00:22:665 (1) - ^
00:45:170 (1) - ^
00:52:203 (1) - ^
00:59:588 (1) - ^
01:06:973 (1) - ^
01:42:050 (1) - ^
01:49:434 (1) - ^
01:56:819 (1) - ^

Most of these finishes could go into other diffs as well if they're not already there

Normal

00:23:588 (2) - end this on second red tick to fit vocal
00:27:280 (3) - ^
00:30:973 (2) - ^
00:45:742 (2) - ^
00:49:434 (3) - ^
01:35:588 (2,3,1,2) - have the angle between (2,3) and (1,2) be the same
01:44:588 (2) - have this start on red tick 703
01:50:357 (3) - end on red tick ^
01:54:050 (3) - ^

Hard

01:42:050 (1) - move this to the right in line with (3)

Insane

00:25:896 (4,5,6) - unstack this triplet, do it with .5 spacing instead
00:33:280 (4,5,6) - ^
00:48:050 (4,5,6) - ^
00:55:434 (5,6,7) - ^
01:16:434 (2,3) - (2) at x:456 y:324, (3) at x:312 y:328, looks better imo
02:13:665 (2,3) - since this is copied from first kiai then fix same as ^

The last two minutes is an awful long time to go without any sort of real break for not being the hardest in the set

Dance

real fun to play :D

02:36:050 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,1) - very rough to play, especially with the jump down at the end
otherwise awesome

IA is so goooood :) you've got a star for that. good luck!
DozeHow
29 posts
Joined August 2010
DozeHow
Hello there~ Like before, irc mod!
Dance
SPOILER
04:14 DzH4BftkS: 00:30:973 (5) -
04:14 tutuhaha: 你迅速的打字
04:14 DzH4BftkS: slider变短一点
04:14 DzH4BftkS: 然后后面接一个note
04:14 tutuhaha: 然后post，回来我看，加油
04:14 DzH4BftkS: .
04:15 DzH4BftkS: 00:55:434 (5,6,7) -
04:15 DzH4BftkS: 后面增加一个note 直接拖到后面的slider上
04:16 DzH4BftkS: 01:03:742 (3) -
04:16 DzH4BftkS: 音效有点怪异
04:16 DzH4BftkS: 01:25:088 (7) -
04:16 DzH4BftkS: 全部换成note连打
04:17 DzH4BftkS: 01:44:703 (1) -
04:17 DzH4BftkS: 分成两部分 第一部分是那句话的结尾 第二部分是吉他伴奏
04:18 DzH4BftkS: 02:00:050 (7) -
04:18 DzH4BftkS: 接note到后面的slider 连打过去
04:19 DzH4BftkS: 02:22:665 (1) - 音效有点怪异
04:20 DzH4BftkS: 03:01:434 (1,2,3,4) - 换note!slider太小儿科了!(run
04:20 DzH4BftkS: 03:12:453 (1,2,3) - 换成4连!
04:21 DzH4BftkS: 在这三连的前面放一个
2哈姐居然放着我自己去看小说:O
Rank This PLZ :) :) :)
Raose
698 posts
Joined July 2012
Raose
2ha! Hoping to get a mod from you from your queue~ Hope my mod is helpful, take all these as suggestions.

[General]
You should probably add to the tags Kagerou Project, and Mekakucity Records (that's the album name)

[Easy]
00:22:665 (1) - blanket 00:21:742 (2)
01:27:580 (1) - stack on top of 01:23:588 (2)
02:24:511 (2) - stack on top of 02:20:819 (2)

[Normal]
02:16:664 (5) - the end isn't snapped, according to AiMod D:
02:18:510 (1) - ^
02:20:356 (1) - ^

[Hard]
00:48:049 (2, 1) - might fit vocals better this way (or you can have a 1/2 repeating slider)
SPOILER
01:16:203 (1,2,3,1,2) - arrange into a square/diamond
01:30:165 (1,2,1) - maybe you can arrange the head of (1), tail of (2), and head of (1) in a triangle
02:13:434 (1,2,3,4,1,2) - arrange into square/diamond
02:16:665 (2) - think you can blanket (1) a litttle better

[Dance]
01:07:665 (3) - Ctrl + H and move it so that (1) crosses over and blankets it? I think that'd be pretty cool :D
01:09:511 (3) - Stack on top of 01:08:011 (1)
01:15:511 (2) - stack on top of the tail of 01:14:819 (3)
02:32:126 (2) - stack on top of 02:30:396 (2)
02:43:780 (1,2,3) - (nazi) the spacing's just a bit off among the three objects
02:45:050 (2,1) - not perfectly symmetrical, left side is a bit higher up

[Insane]
02:09:742 (1-8) - arrange in some sort of shape or symmetry, they seem almost randomly placed
03:12:453 (1,2,3) - why aren't they in the lower left corner like in hard and dance? :O

Great song and mapset, good luck~
tutuhaha
3,000 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
tutuhaha
Thanks for modder
finish some
EnakoRin
EnakoRin
NM难度中KIAI和其他难度不一致，请检查。
ps：no kds
69653863
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Joined January 2012
69653863
Mod for mod request (ﾉ´∀｀*)
Guide
Red is unrankable and must be fixed.
Pink is you should apply this to any similar notes/parts/patterns/whatever it was stated on it.
Mods with question marks (?) are only suggestion/opinion. You're free to choose whether you're going to apply it or not.

General
  1. Why not BPM 130? 260 brings a pretty fast speed on osu!mania o.o
  2. I don't think chocolate/red combo colour matched here, maybe try darker/lighter blue instead?
  3. Tell the BATs to move the title text to 00:07:896 - 00:13:434 - it fits better
Easy
  1. 00:15:280 (1,2) - To create pattern improvisation and avoid boringness, why don't you combine these into one slider?
  2. 00:20:819 (1,2,1) - how about http://puu.sh/2vswb looks better
  3. 00:59:588 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Rather than splitting these into 4 different combos, how about making it 2? So one combo have 2 sliders.
  4. 01:19:896 (2) - Clap on end?
  5. 01:49:203 (1) - Broke polarity. How about expanding 01:47:588 (1) - so it ends on white tick and add a circle on 01:49:434 - ?
  6. 01:56:819 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Same like on 00:59:588 - .
  7. 02:17:127 (2) - clap on end
Normal
  1. Diffspread between this diff and Easy is too high. Maybe make easier pattern here or harder pattern on Easy?
  2. 00:55:896 (1,2,3,4) - Make perfect square formation?
  3. 01:45:742 (1,2,3,4,1) - maybe http://puu.sh/2vsJE smoother flow
Hard
  1. 00:11:588 (1,2,3,4) - maybe http://puu.sh/2vsMg smoother design
  2. 00:49:319 - Add note here?
  3. 01:04:665 (3,1) - Spacing?
  4. 01:12:049 (4,5,1) - Stream consists of circles plays better imo (:
  5. 01:16:203 (1,2,3,1,2) - Better square formation plz
  6. 02:09:511 (4,1) - Replace with triplet instead?
  7. Do I detect whole-copypaste on second kiai? >.>
  8. 02:44:819 (1,2,3,4) - this doesn't make any sense imo
  9. 03:12:453 (1) - Broke polarity. Remove please
Dance
  1. 00:07:896 (1,2) - Combine into one slider?
  2. 00:51:973 (1) - Why NC?
    Awesome diff. GJ.
Insane
  1. 00:37:203 (3) - Split into 2 circles please, flows really bad if you don't
  2. 01:05:588 (2,3) - Combine into one slider?
  3. 01:16:203 (1,2,3,4) - better if http://puu.sh/2vt4r (fix spacing and neater design)
  4. 01:33:280 (1,2) - No. Atleast Ctrl+G on (2) if you want to keep this.
  5. 02:13:434 (1,2,3,4,5) - same like on 01:16:203 (1,2,3,4) -
  6. 03:12:453 (1,2,3) - Are you sure? This on BPM 130 is 1/8. Think about this.
Good luck.
DeletedUser_1133841
DeletedUser_1133841
Hello~ I can't mod because I don't know enough (and the dance level is beyond my ability, huehuehue), but I noticed something... You put しづ in the artist's spot, but that's the name of the pixiv artist that provides the illustrations for Jin's songs and such. Replace it with じん? And some simple side-notes to consider: making either "Mekaku City Records" or "Kagerou Project" the source (or rather, put them into the tags, like Zhengster said) and adding "Shizen no Teki P" (Jin's other name) to tags.

Well, that's all; I have so much love for this map<3 Good luck with rank~
tutuhaha
3,000 posts
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Topic Starter
tutuhaha
really thankyou
add it now
Pokie
osu! Alumni
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Joined December 2009
Pokie
Cleared a reply as requested
Strawberry
osu! Alumni
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Joined October 2010
Strawberry
modded in irc~ take a good care of my bubble
SPOILER
2013-04-20 10:02 Strawberry: 00:26:011 (2,3) - ctrl+g?
2013-04-20 10:03 tutuhaha: K了
2013-04-20 10:03 Strawberry: 感觉歌词是跟前面的所以可能flow也和前面顺着下来比较好
2013-04-20 10:03 Strawberry: 恩
2013-04-20 10:06 Strawberry: 01:20:588 (2) - ctrl+g好像打起来好点
2013-04-20 10:06 Strawberry: 打起来也不是很难其实
2013-04-20 10:06 tutuhaha: 不会太远就没问题
2013-04-20 10:06 tutuhaha: 搞掂了
2013-04-20 10:06 tutuhaha: 那我第二个kiai也这么搞了
2013-04-20 10:06 Strawberry: 恩
2013-04-20 10:07 Strawberry: 01:44:588 - 这个note好像可以删了o.o
2013-04-20 10:08 Strawberry: 然后01:44:703 (1) - 挪下边点
2013-04-20 10:08 Strawberry: x.448 y.200?
2013-04-20 10:09 tutuhaha: 01:44:588 (4) - 这个是为了连续性.........而且有这个音会比较好打大概.....
2013-04-20 10:10 Strawberry: 这里音乐好像也是故意空过去..
2013-04-20 10:10 Strawberry: 嘛不改也没啥事
2013-04-20 10:10 tutuhaha: 我看看删了后好不好放......
2013-04-20 10:11 tutuhaha: 搞掂
2013-04-20 10:11 Strawberry: 01:59:819 (1,2,3,4,1) - 这里好像可以弄圆点..http://puu.sh/2DmDa.jpg
2013-04-20 10:12 tutuhaha: 懂，尝试下
2013-04-20 10:13 tutuhaha: 搞掂
2013-04-20 10:13 Strawberry: 02:33:511 (1,2,3) - 这种变成三个一组的..
2013-04-20 10:13 Strawberry: 好像有点不好读o.o
2013-04-20 10:14 tutuhaha: 这个找人测过没问题
2013-04-20 10:14 tutuhaha: 节奏也比较明显
2013-04-20 10:15 Strawberry: 02:37:434 (1) - 结尾换成soft或者soft whistle比较好
2013-04-20 10:16 tutuhaha: soft了
2013-04-20 10:16 tutuhaha: whistle有点小猎奇
2013-04-20 10:17 Strawberry: 恩
2013-04-20 10:17 Strawberry: 02:53:184 (1) - 提前1/4开始 然后我觉得结束在02:54:050 - 就够了吧
2013-04-20 10:17 Strawberry: 这样感觉02:54:973 - 这里开始的时候配合视频那一段白更燃点..
2013-04-20 10:18 Strawberry: 直接spinner满有点仓促
2013-04-20 10:18 Strawberry: 然后就是可以在这里考虑加一个kiai burst 02:54:973 -
2013-04-20 10:18 tutuhaha: 那样会不会太坑了................spinner好短
2013-04-20 10:19 Strawberry: 够转了>.>
2013-04-20 10:19 tutuhaha: Orz确定？
2013-04-20 10:19 tutuhaha: 那我尾部降音吧，spinner
2013-04-20 10:19 tutuhaha: 不对也不用降音了
2013-04-20 10:19 Strawberry: 够长了啊..
2013-04-20 10:19 tutuhaha: 刚好那里有个重音
2013-04-20 10:20 tutuhaha: OK改好了
2013-04-20 10:21 Strawberry: 看看别的难度
2013-04-20 10:21 Strawberry: insane
2013-04-20 10:22 tutuhaha: 好的
2013-04-20 10:26 Strawberry: 02:53:184 (1) - 同
2013-04-20 10:26 tutuhaha: K了
2013-04-20 10:27 Strawberry: 别的没啥了 HP-1比较好
2013-04-20 10:27 tutuhaha: 好的
2013-04-20 10:28 tutuhaha: 噗
2013-04-20 10:29 Strawberry: 然后我觉得hard貌似用tick rat1就够了e
2013-04-20 10:29 Strawberry: *rate
2013-04-20 10:29 tutuhaha: 我习惯是统一
2013-04-20 10:30 tutuhaha: 不过也是
2013-04-20 10:30 tutuhaha: 看起来太迷离了..【不对】
2013-04-20 10:30 tutuhaha: OK搞掂
2013-04-20 10:30 Strawberry: 噗..
2013-04-20 10:33 Strawberry: 02:53:242 (1) -
2013-04-20 10:33 Strawberry: hard
2013-04-20 10:33 tutuhaha: hard么
2013-04-20 10:34 tutuhaha: 搞掂
2013-04-20 10:34 Strawberry: 然后建议改ar7..
2013-04-20 10:34 tutuhaha: ar7亚达
2013-04-20 10:37 Strawberry: normal
2013-04-20 10:37 Strawberry: 02:37:434 - 可以考虑这里spin 结束在02:38:819 -
2013-04-20 10:38 Strawberry: easy同
2013-04-20 10:38 tutuhaha: 这个就算了
2013-04-20 10:39 Strawberry: 哦哦
2013-04-20 10:40 Strawberry: easy用ar3吧
2013-04-20 10:40 Strawberry: 这样enh是357
2013-04-20 10:40 tutuhaha: K了
2013-04-20 10:42 Strawberry: 然后就是如果02:54:973 - 这里加了kiaiburst的话就所有难度统一一下
2013-04-20 10:42 Strawberry: 也挺好的
2013-04-20 10:42 Strawberry: 然后没了


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SapphireGhost
osu! Alumni
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SapphireGhost
Alright!

General
- Please map the endings of Normal and Easy so they are the same length as the other difficulties! This is important to me for ranking.

Insane
00:46:665 (1,2) - There is no reason to decrease the spacing here. Keep it at 1.4x like the other patterns so it's consistent.
03:12:453 (1,2,3) - Because you have a similar pattern in the Dance difficulty, I think it would be best to change this to a kickslider or single note. Otherwise the 1/4 is out of place compared to the rest of the map.

Hard
- +1 to OD, it should vary the scoreboards more.
00:10:780 (2) - Slider length mistake.
02:57:626 (1,2,3,4) - Could be a confusing rhythm considering the other patterns are more straightforward.

Normal
- +1 to OD, same as Hard.
00:06:049 (1) - I wouldn't start with a spinner if the other difficulties don't. It doesn't start the map well.

Easy
00:06:049 (1) - Same as Normal.
00:59:588 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - I'd try to vary the rhythms in this part somewhat so it's more interesting.
01:56:819 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Same as above.

And that's it. Poke me when you're done.
tutuhaha
3,000 posts
Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
tutuhaha

SapphireGhost wrote:

Alright!

Easy
00:06:049 (1) - Same as Normal.
00:59:588 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - I'd try to vary the rhythms in this part somewhat so it's more interesting.
01:56:819 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - Same as above.

And that's it. Poke me when you're done.
Those two I want to make sure it is easy rhythm and new player can play it
because this song‘s rhythm is litter bit fast and complicated
if I want to use more detailed rhythm maybe will make it more hard :P......
So I want to keep those
and finish another things~~~~~~
/me pokes SapphieGhost >.>
LunarSakuya
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Joined August 2011
LunarSakuya
General
- your bg is over 1mb, please recompress it so it's less than 1mb

Easy
00:15:280 (1) - Finish
00:22:665 (1) - Finish on head
00:44:819 (1) - ^
00:59:588 (1) - ^
01:01:434 (1) - ^
There's a lot more Finishes like these, hear the music for the cymbals~; same for the other diffs
01:41:126 (1) - Delete NC, didn't catch the point of the short combos

Normal
Again, put Finishes where there are cymbals

Dance
02:01:434 (1) - I don't hear this following anything
tutuhaha
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Joined October 2010
Topic Starter
tutuhaha

LunarSakuya wrote:

Easy
00:15:280 (1) - Finish
00:22:665 (1) - Finish on head
00:44:819 (1) - ^
00:59:588 (1) - ^
01:01:434 (1) - ^
There's a lot more Finishes like these, hear the music for the cymbals~; same for the other diffs
01:41:126 (1) - Delete NC, didn't catch the point of the short combos

Normal
Again, put Finishes where there are cymbals

Dance
02:01:434 (1) - I don't hear this following anythingI really sure there has something
fix all
LunarSakuya
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LunarSakuya
mmmm
SapphireGhost
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SapphireGhost
And that's an official 68 favourites before ranking. Popular map incoming!
Lolicakey
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Omedeto~!
Pokie
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Pokie
2ha又rank毫無人性
a32
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Pokie wrote:

2ha又rank毫無人性
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Scratch this.
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