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doe splaying converted beatmaps from osu to osumania is recommendable?

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stemia
so im starting to learn osumania and i think that osumania has so little number of (made for mania)beatmaps in conparission with osu, does playing converted beatmaps helps with learning osumania or is just not worth it? a lot of people say converted beatmaps are trash and may even make it harder to learn osumania and basically avoid them, is it true? should i avoid converted beatmaps? thanks
Lights
i'd recommend avoiding converts. they're very poor in quality and won't help you improve.
sitarg
i started playing converts as well and i can say the earlier you start to play proper mania maps the better. Right now i do play mostly converts for acc/SS, but if you really want to improve just go straight to mania maps. It'll take longer to get used to, but it's for the best in the long run.
Zelzatter Zero
Converted beatmaps doesn't have any particular pattern that most pure mania maps have. I tried converted once, and I'd like to say that it's way more unintuitive with nonsense pattern caused by auto-generation. They may be easier, but it's not a good start when you want to play mania. Try to play pure mania sets as much as possible.
Lights

Zelzatter Zero wrote:

Converted beatmaps doesn't have any particular pattern that most pure mania maps have. I tried converted once, and I'd like to say that it's way more unintuitive with nonsense pattern caused by auto-generation. They may be easier, but it's not a good start when you want to play mania. Try to play pure mania sets as much as possible.
owo i didn't know you played mania.


woof.
tgnehs

stemia wrote:

so im starting to learn osumania and i think that osumania has so little number of (made for mania)beatmaps in conparission with osu
i guess in comparison 9833 maps is not that many, but there are 1394 maps under 1.5 stars. shouldnt be a problem
[LS]PositoniX
dont play converts. they have super awkward and super random patterns and wont help you improve. type in mode=m to search for maps other then converts
[Sick]Catcat
I see a newborn 7key player uwu.
Convert do work when you're learning 7k keybinding,I'll recommend keep playing convert before you manage to get an S on a 2* convert. That's how I did tho:> I play convert when I'm trying to learn different keymodes especially 7k or above,since there are not so many maps then 4k.


As long as you're having fun while playing it,it's recommendable.
Bobbias

[Sick]Catcat wrote:

I see a newborn 7key player uwu.
Convert do work when you're learning 7k keybinding,I'll recommend keep playing convert before you manage to get an S on a 2* convert. That's how I did tho:> I play convert when I'm trying to learn different keymodes especially 7k or above,since there are not so many maps then 4k.
No. Autoconverts are a horrible way to learn, for several reasons.

First, the patterns they create are terrible. They're bad in 4k, but even worse in higher key modes. While it is possible to use autoconverts to learn things, it is not a good way to learn. Making autoconverts ranked was one of the biggest mistakes peppy ever made.

The patterns make no sense, and they do not introduce you to the different kinds of patterns you will see in real maps for mania. The rhythm in them also makes no sense, because standard is far more limited in how it can represent rhythm in a beatmap.

Maps made specifically for mania will always be the better choice to learn from.
Topic Starter
stemia
then im glad i dint waste so much time with autoconverts it took me a moth to know there where especific mania beatmaps, thank you all, i still play converts of song that i like that are not made for mania maps but just because i like them :c
Bobbias
That's about the only reasonable time to play an autoconvert imo. As you get better at the game you'll realize just how dumb the patterns in them are, and will probably have less desire to play them because they just stop being fun.
tgnehs

Bobbias wrote:

Making autoconverts ranked was one of the biggest mistakes peppy ever made.
How come its the biggest mistake peppy has made? I'm sure he's done worse? I'm pretty sure autoconvert pp is nerfed so no issues there (even if an autoconvert could make a song that difficult) and they provide terrible but playable charts when there is no mania alternative. Beginners learn pretty quickly that autoconverts are bad, so no issues there. From what I've seen it only impacts leaderboard scores (all those people out there farming #1 mania scores) and ranked score (sorry GrilledCheese).
Bobbias
I was exaggerating. It's just one of the things peppy and co. did early on that I feel negatively impacted the game.
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