What. They're all nice DT maps.Ekaru wrote:
A lot of those Insanes aren't even DT maps.
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What is consider as average for osu! standard?
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The map has ONE DT Score. Which is by Niko.
A DT Map is a map that has a considerable amount of DT scores that are not by the second or third best player ever.
The map has ONE DT Score. Which is by Niko.
A DT Map is a map that has a considerable amount of DT scores that are not by the second or third best player ever.
No, a DT map is a map that's possible to FC DT. Whether you can or can't do it doesn't invalidate the fact that it's possible. If you disagree with this then Atama isn't even a map at all (because nobody FC'd it yet).Zarerion wrote:
A DT Map is a map that has a considerable amount of DT scores that are not by the second or third best player ever.
Aqo wrote:
it's possible
^lolcubes wrote:
every average player should be able to
two different things
that said Poinsettia qualifies for a DT map :b it's not even that hard, only 180bpm.
Aqo wrote:
No, a DT map is a map that's possible to FC DT. Whether you can or can't do it doesn't invalidate the fact that it's possible. If you disagree with this then Atama isn't even a map at all (because nobody FC'd it yet).
what a logic. now atama is a good DT map cuz it is possible to DT FC it if we get someone who is hundred times better than cookiezi.
nope, because nobody has yet shown that it's possible to stream 360bpm or jump at that speed. However nomod maps already exist at 270bpm and people can play them, so 180bpm or slower maps without spaced/long streams qualify for DT.haha5957 wrote:
what a logic. now atama is a good DT map cuz it is possible to DT FC it if we get someone who is hundred times better than cookiezi.
You said every Map that can be DT'ed should be easy for an average player nomod.Aqo wrote:
Aqo wrote:
it's possible^lolcubes wrote:
every average player should be able to
two different things
Which is NOT the case for stuff like Poinsettia.
._.lolcubes wrote:
Poinsettia is a cool DT map in that case. I am sure that every average player should be able to FC it no problem.
edit: more explanation below
lol
Except I never said every and gave a few specific map examples.Zarerion wrote:
You said every Map that can be DT'ed should be easy for an average player nomod.
Which is NOT the case for stuff like Poinsettia.
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/147377&m=0
Not a single DT Score, 173 BPM, contains 1/4 streams.
This is totally a DT map, yeah.
Not a single DT Score, 173 BPM, contains 1/4 streams.
This is totally a DT map, yeah.
every average person should be able to fc this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/38235 and this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/21928
on DTsilmarilen wrote:
every average person should be able to fc this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/38235 and this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/21928
with HRwinber1 wrote:
on DTsilmarilen wrote:
every average person should be able to fc this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/38235 and this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/21928
and PFTanzklaue wrote:
with HR
You guys forgot the best mod FL.
yes, but no hidden, as hidden is for scrubs who jst want to farm PP and scoreCXu wrote:
You guys forgot the best mod FL.
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and FLwinber1 wrote:
on DTsilmarilen wrote:
every average person should be able to fc this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/38235 and this http://osu.ppy.sh/s/21928
>mfw when learning I am shit tier compared to "average"
Personally gonna toss my vote in for "average" being ranks 20-50k ish, and able to FC hards with little to no difficulty. I go into public multiplayer rooms fairly regularly, and this is the stuff most people seem to be actually capable of passing. Anytime someone picks an insane, it means only one or two people will actually pass it, unless its an easy one.
i would say that "above average" extends from the 15-20k "gray area" to around 2k, and past that you're starting to move towards the highly skilled and pro players.
However we all know that rank isn't good for anything but giving a very general skill approximation, so this all doesn't really matter.
i would say that "above average" extends from the 15-20k "gray area" to around 2k, and past that you're starting to move towards the highly skilled and pro players.
However we all know that rank isn't good for anything but giving a very general skill approximation, so this all doesn't really matter.
using ranks to determine an average is like saying pp system is a way to measure skill
I always get like 1-2 random misses on Hard, so I guess I'm also shit tier. :C
Stupid FC.... ._.
I dunno if it's just me, but a lot of times my brain just glitches, and even though I "register" a keypress, it just doesn't happen, and it can be just about anywhere. Or I get streak of constantly ending up with my mouse juuuuuust short of the note, resulting in a miss. At that point I just quit, because whatever map I play the result is the same.
Stupid FC.... ._.
I dunno if it's just me, but a lot of times my brain just glitches, and even though I "register" a keypress, it just doesn't happen, and it can be just about anywhere. Or I get streak of constantly ending up with my mouse juuuuuust short of the note, resulting in a miss. At that point I just quit, because whatever map I play the result is the same.
so it kind of shows thwe truth but not exactly?buny wrote:
using ranks to determine an average is like saying pp system is a way to measure skill
maybe shows the truth for very high ranks, but any range considered to be average other than in the very high ranks range isn't a good way of estimatingsilmarilen wrote:
so it kind of shows thwe truth but not exactly?buny wrote:
using ranks to determine an average is like saying pp system is a way to measure skill
i can't even stream 150bpm and according to Aqo criteria i'm beyond shit tierloseri wrote:
buny u r average
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I'm also beyond shit tier according to aqo, he also scolded me ingame for being so bad >:
and you can singletap 184bpm
u r average bany
and you can singletap 184bpm
u r average bany
I AM SHIT TIER ;_;Aqo wrote:
Skills that an average osu!standard player is expected to have in 2012:
- Be able to get accuracy above 90% on OD7 on anything that is not a stream map
- Be able to stream up to at least 180bpm for quite a while (at least 20 notes)
- Be able to read up to at least AR9 comfortably
- Be able to aim at CS4 up to at least SV 1.8 per bpm up to 200 with up to at least 1.0 DS on object spacing
Skills for somewhat higher standard average osu!standard player:
- Be able to get accuracy above 95% on OD7 on anything including stream maps (even if it takes retries)
- Be able to stream up to at least 200bpm for quite a while (at least 50 notes)
- Be able to read up to at least AR10 comfortably
- Be able to aim at CS4 up to at least SV 2.5 per bpm up to 240 with up to at least 1.4 DS on object spacing, as well as CS5 on lower speeds than 180bpm
hand vid or it didn't happen
loseri always here 4 moral support
i'd luv u if u wernt a loser.
i'd luv u if u wernt a loser.
You two should probably get a room or something.
they already are <3
im in the "i can't be arsed to get as good as all the little kids that are dominating this game but i still play" tier orz.
Average tier is probably UNABLE to do AR9 and longer streams, and maps with longer faster jumps.
That's about it.
Average tier is probably UNABLE to do AR9 and longer streams, and maps with longer faster jumps.
That's about it.
IMO if you can keep up with most 180BPM maps then I consider you average/good.
people talking of 200 bpm like it's nothing
hey guise if u wana b avrage u must stream 200 bpm
hey guise if u wana b avrage u must stream 200 bpm
i could stream 200 bpm for 500+ notes the day i started
players that can FC hards/insanes
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