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peppy
http://osu.ppy.sh/p/welcome this page is displayed to newly registered users. it sucks, and needs better content and design. anyone willing to help out here please do.
Luna
The Beginners Training thread is horribly outdated and needs a rework.
Not sure if I could help with that tho; it's been ages since I last played easy standard diffs, so I have basically no experience...
Hanyuu
Hm maybe this page should explain at first how the game is played. Like move your cursor with the mouse over the circle and press in time with the music etc or some introduction video/tutorial? Maybe add more pictures too to make it look more friendly and welcoming
Topic Starter
peppy
To clarify, I'm not looking for ideas .I'm looking for people to make awesome stuff.

Also osu! comes with a tutorial on how to play the game, so keep that in mind.
Marcin
Information about regional forums ?
* and channels?
Bittersweet
I know youre not looking for ideas, but i cant help it; Ask Daru (or anyone else that can make something cute, Daru is just the first name that cames to my mind when o think about pippi art) to make a welcome pippi to put in there, please :D
Drafura
A picture for each 4 first links would be awesome but I suck at paintshopping :(
Ballance
so i will help :)

i can draw a welcome scene

and Chinese community also thinking about making the Chinese tutorial ,maybe we can add a new tutorial beatmap
XinCrin
I could help:

• How to download and import your first maps to Osu!
• Joining multiplayer lobbies and entry to configure them ( This can be difficult for beginners )

and more maybe if you wish ....
MMzz
Needs a link to James Training.
theowest
I started the tutorial project. The finished tutorials could probably be linked on the welcome page.
XinCrin
In my opinion should have content in other languages
If you plan to do video tutorials, which are in their respective language because not all users of osu! specifically speak English
I could help corresponding to Spanish
Norb
Watch out peppy, 8-) awesome stuff incoming:

<center>
<h1>How to start playing your favourite songs!</h1>
<table border=1>
<tr><td>
<h1>Step 1 - Find the song!</h1>
Finding beatmaps for songs is super easy! You can find every submited beatmap <a href="http://osu.ppy.sh/p/beatmaplist"><b>here</b></a>. You can type anything related to your search: song's name, artist's name, album's name, even the genre! For this example we'll try find "Coldplay - Don't Let It Break Your Heart"<br>
<br><center><img src="http://puu.sh/2FmYT.png"</img></center><br>
<hr>
<h1>Step 2 - Download it!</h1>
If there is an aproved beatmap version of the song you are looking for you should find it in the result pages. However don't be upset if your song isn't there! There are hundreads of beatmaps being submited and reviewed so your song might be on its' way!.<br>
<center><br><img src="http://puu.sh/2FmZn.png" width=580></img><br><br>Once on the beatmap's page, there should be a giant "Download Beatmap" button (you have to be signed in first).<br><b>Note:</b> It doesn't matter where you save the file as long as you can find it once the download is finished.<br><br><a href="http://osu.ppy.sh/d/41593"><img src="https://s.ppy.sh/images/osu-download-beatmap.png"></a></img><br></center><br>
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<h1>Step 3 - Load it with osu!</h1>
Once your download has finished, you should simply be able to open the beatmap .osz file. If for some reason that doesn't suit you, you might hold & drag the file into the osu! window.<br><br>
<center><img src="http://puu.sh/2FmZP.png" width=580></img></center><br>
<hr>
<h1>Step 4 - Play for fun or compete with other players!</h1>
Once opened, osu! should start up (and probably update). To start browsing your beatmap library just click the massive osu! circle in the middle, click "Play", "Solo". Your new beatmap (along with the tutorial) should be listed there. Choose the difficulty you want to play and you're off to become an osu! pro! You may also play "Multi" instead of "Solo" where players will compete in live games. You can also be part of the fun.<br><br>
<center><img src="http://puu.sh/2Fn0a.png" width=580></img><br><br>
There we go! Now you're ready to play osu! and find your favourite songs. If you're having any issues feel free to ask for help in the forums or in-game (press F8 to open chat window).<br><b>GOOD LUCK!</b></center><br>
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</table>
</center>

Raw page: http://puu.sh/2FnzW.html (obviously it looks nicer if implemented in the current welcome page because of fonts/styles).

But seriously... This is just a rough idea to include a quick guide on how to start playing in the welcome page. I don't know if you think this is necessary, but believe me or not you have nine year olds playing this game and they easily get lost in these things. I know that because I had to personally explain to a nine year old how to download songs :| (after she saw me playing osu!stream). ALSO! Pictures are worth a thousand words :) :D
The code goes nice with the welcome page as it is (I wrote it while editing the current welcome page's elements through Google Chrome) , could be a similar addition bellow the quick tips. Sorry for the rough English if there were any mistakes or anything, and you might want to remove the border from the table, the code is just a rough sketch ;)
Mara
That page still has old FAQ link, maybe add osu!wiki link instead?
Topic Starter
peppy
Good to see some activity in this thread.

You know, rather than making this html, I'm starting to think it should just be dumped on the wiki where everyone can contribute and make sure it is up-to-date. @Duboodie do you think you have port it over to https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Welcome? Also avoid using tables where they are not necessary at all.
Norb

peppy wrote:

Good to see some activity in this thread.

You know, rather than making this html, I'm starting to think it should just be dumped on the wiki where everyone can contribute and make sure it is up-to-date. @Duboodie do you think you have port it over to https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Welcome? Also avoid using tables where they are not necessary at all.
Glad to contribute. I have no experience with wikis but I think I done a decent job converting all of that HTML into the wiki. I assume that's what you wanted? I hope it doesn't look too messy. I done a rough spelling check but I think someone else should go over and check. Now I don't know what other content you'd want there because there are some good suggestions in this thread I can try fitting most of those ideas into the page as well if no one else is willing?
Marcin
You should warn players, that if there is not beatmap, for the music they like, they SHOULD NOT request a map for it.
I often see this posted by new players.
Mara

Marcin wrote:

You should warn players, that if there is not beatmap, for the music they like, they SHOULD NOT request a map for it.
I often see this posted by new players.
Keep in mind that now the page is in wiki, you can make the change too.
Marcin
Yeah sure, but If he is willing to help, I'm not going to break anything, and I'm not creative at all in case of placement things.
Norb
Alright I guess I'll think about it and start shaping the page tomorrow. Thanks for the ideas :)
Norb
Allright! I worked on the page a bit here's the result:
https://osu.ppy.sh/wiki/Welcome

I wouldn't mind if someone added something or corrected some mistakes. I was trying to write most of the stuff seriously but with a bit of warmth and simplicity assuming that the new players want a warm welcome :P

I transferred the useful resources there as well, but I'm not sure if it should be brought to the top? My design taste isn't the best. Sorry.

If anyone has any extra ideas or additions but are too lazy to actually edit the wiki, post them here I guess I'll take care of em.
deadbeat
looking good. very nice :D
Topic Starter
peppy
They reach the welcome page after they have made an account.
Making an account requires already installing the game and logging in, so this part is probably unnecessary.

However, be careful with newly uploaded beatmaps if you really care about your accuracy! Those maps might be completely fresh and have no high scores so even if you get 60% accuracy, you might get a considerable score at cost of lowering your overall and pp's accuracy. But don't be afraid about these stats, most players don't really care about their accuracy because it will naturally increases as the player gains more experience in the game. After all, this is just a game and the main point of it is to have fun!
What is this shit?

There are a lot of different calculations involved to count everyone's points, but keep one thing in mind; you get pp when you reach top 600 rank in any ranked song. In most cases, to reach a considerable top rank, you will need to full-combo a song (don't miss a single note) to get the highest score (from the combo multiplier). A player with 99% accuracy that missed one note somewhere in the middle of the song can be outscored by a player with 80% accuracy who didn't miss a single note. The score deviation (eg: 2.8 mil vs 5.0 mil) will be pretty obvious when the song is long (2 ~ 5 mins). However, you might have to apply some difficulty increasing score modifiers (like HR,HD) to get an even higher score!
Top 600? Random deviation assumptions? No thank you.
Norb
They reach the welcome page after they have made an account.
Making an account requires already installing the game and logging in, so this part is probably unnecessary.
Can you not make an account before downloading/installing the game? Don't underestimate the amount of users signing up for an account before actually downloading the product. In many cases they will at least sign up while downloading. But it wouldn't hurt to remove those two parts (downloading/installing and logging-in). I only added them because someone was suggesting it.

What is this shit?
Probably not a serious question but I'll answer anyway. A lot of new players that I recruit complain to me that their accuracy is really low (even when they get 90%+ on easies). Correct me if I'm wrong but I assume that's because they play newly ranked maps and pass them with horrible accuracy making it into top 500? If that's incorrect then I apologize. But also I now understand that discouraging new players from playing new maps is not something you're after so I removed that part anyway.

Top 600? Random deviation assumptions? No thank you.
Originally I wrote down top 500 (because that's how pp is described in the Performance Points page on wiki). But someone changed it to 600. Since I noticed that I get pp past 500 rank, and also the Accuracy wiki page mentions top 600, I thought who ever changed it knows what they're doing. I removed any specific numbers for now since I'm unsure.

Anything else? I want this to be finished since we started already, I'll help as much as I can.
MillhioreF

Duboodie wrote:

Can you not make an account before downloading/installing the game? Don't underestimate the amount of users signing up for an account before actually downloading the product. In many cases they will at least sign up while downloading. But it wouldn't hurt to remove those two parts (downloading/installing and logging-in). I only added them because someone was suggesting it.
Downloading and logging into the game serves as verification, instead of a lame captcha. It's incredibly effective at warding off spambots (100% effectiveness rate as far as I know)

Duboodie wrote:

Originally I wrote down top 500 (because that's how pp is described in the Performance Points page on wiki). But someone changed it to 600. Since I noticed that I get pp past 500 rank, and also the Accuracy wiki page mentions top 600, I thought who ever changed it knows what they're doing. I removed any specific numbers for now since I'm unsure.
The number is constantly changing, it's somewhere past top 700 now IIRC and will continue to grow until all scores are accounted for. Probably best to not have specific numbers, so good job.
Norb

MillhioreF wrote:

Downloading and logging into the game serves as verification, instead of a lame captcha. It's incredibly effective at warding off spambots (100% effectiveness rate as far as I know)
Ahh thanks for telling me this. I don't remember going through this as I was signing up, but good job for whoever's idea it was to implement this. Now it makes total sense to remove those two paragraphs from the wiki and I also asked Repflez to delete the image (illustrating the login interface).
Topic Starter
peppy
Accuracy is weighted by pp, which means high accuracy on easy difficulties won't affect the accuracy number as much as harder difficulties.
Topic Starter
peppy
The page is overall looking pretty good, but I think for the average player coming into the game, it may be too long-winded. Might need to put the more important things closer to the top (like how to import songs) rather than explaining solo/multiplayer, which is probably more obvious to most. Would be nice to get other people's feedback in here too.
Marcin
Well, When I sometimes see players at #polish, and sometimes at #osu, asking how to play multiplayer, I don't think it's pretty obvious....
Topic Starter
peppy
It's not the first thing you need to read on joining the game, though. The paragraphs are too long so people will likely ignore them at the moment.
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