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Eason Chan - Lonely Christmas [Taiko]

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wmfchris
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This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on 2012年12月24日 at 23:26:34

Artist: Eason Chan
Title: Lonely Christmas
Tags: cantonese Taiko Scorpiour
BPM: 117
Filesize: 8669kb
Play Time: 04:16
Difficulties Available:
  1. Futsuu (2.25 stars, 368 notes)
  2. Muzukashii (4.39 stars, 601 notes)
  3. Oni (4.91 stars, 853 notes)
Download: Eason Chan - Lonely Christmas
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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To Saturio.

Wish all of you can enjoy a non-lonely christmas this year!

高登仔就繼續毒自在家啦

This is a purely taiko set.
Easy: Done. (Futsuu)
Normal: Done. (Muzu)
Hard: Done. (Oni?)
SB: By baka Sco.

People who gave opinions despite modders replied
lolcubes//SG//Loctav//Garven//Breeze

Note: SB may cause slight lagging.
Last edited by wmfchris , edited 10 times in total.
Pokie
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毒男們你好再見
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不能不支持 8-)
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Jikson[m9]
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Easy:
跟本家level既話，花譜有8成以上都係紅，只有好少既藍音，當然如果目的係要同converted map有分別既話我冇野講lol


Normal:

02:39:777 (22) - k
03:40:290 (186) - 呢度都k啦...
03:55:674 (10) - ↑
04:04:905 (36) - d， chorus我會keep住個 第一次d,,,,k,,,,d,,d,,k,,第二次d,,,,k,,,,d,,k,,k,,
04:14:392 (61) - k

Hard

01:24:905 (218,219) - d k
01:34:905 (259) - k
01:47:213 (307,308) - k d ？
02:07:213 (386,387,388) - sosad me timing noob cant help
02:29:520 (470,471,472,473,474,475,476,477,478) - d k kkd d ddd
01:44:905 (299) - k
03:47:085 (764) - k
03:48:238 (770) - delete and start spinner here

第一次mod ww
Last edited by Jikson[m9] , edited 3 times in total.
spboxer3
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savelog
:41 wmfchris: 來mod一發 :DDD
23:42 spboxer3: Lonely Christmas 再見...
23:42 wmfchris: 快來啦
23:42 wmfchris: 看我聖誕rank掉
23:42 spboxer3: IRC可不?
23:43 spboxer3: 你這個難度名稱
23:46 spboxer3: 02:09:777 (176) - [Easy]不解釋... 打了就知道w
23:47 wmfchris: orz
23:49 spboxer3: 04:16:187 (1) - 結尾在04:16:187 (1) - 似乎比較好
23:49 spboxer3: 04:16:187 (1) - 04:16:187 (1) - 04:16:187 (1) - 加note
23:50 spboxer3: 04:16:187 (1) - 最後在一個spinner
23:50 spboxer3: 04:16:187 (1) - 結尾
23:50 wmfchris: 啥
23:50 wmfchris: ...
23:50 spboxer3: 我是說整段整段
23:50 wmfchris: 怎全都是04:16:187
23:50 spboxer3: 草
23:51 spboxer3: 04:19:008 - 第一個spinner結尾
23:51 spboxer3: 04:19:777 - 加note
23:51 spboxer3: 04:20:546 - ^
23:51 spboxer3: 04:22:085 - spinner
23:51 spboxer3: 04:23:623 - spinner尾
23:51 spboxer3: 看你感覺吧
23:51 wmfchris: 那一句剛剛開始吧 ._.
23:52 spboxer3: ._.?
23:52 wmfchris: 那個spinner是一整句啊
23:52 spboxer3: 太長了
23:52 wmfchris: 換到歡~呼聲不過一剎
23:53 spboxer3: 很明顯04:18:495 - 已經換到下句了阿
23:53 wmfchris: 換到歡呼聲不過一剎 <- 一整句
23:53 wmfchris: 啊
23:54 wmfchris: 明了 >_>
23:54 spboxer3: 不是重複兩次嗎:O?
23:54 spboxer3: *重複一次才對...
23:55 wmfchris: 感覺因為04:12:341 - 沒用spinner 後面就不斷開了
23:56 spboxer3: wmf 這首歌需要找timmer來看過一次喔 不是單一紅線可以解決的樣子...
23:57 wmfchris: 你找找看吧
23:57 wmfchris: 這個是我和笨蛋sco確認的
23:57 spboxer3: 我電腦爛...聽不出來 會lag :<
23:57 wmfchris: 歌是6/4
23:57 wmfchris: 所以你要1.5拍一組
00:04 spboxer3: 好像也沒甚麼可以mod的...
00:04 wmfchris: ~
bakawmf's request~
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SPOILER
1. Offset: 25,175ms BPM: 78.011
3. Offset: 86,703ms BPM: 78.011
7. Offset: 178,991ms BPM: 78.011
8. Offset: 203,609ms BPM: 78.011
12. Offset: 252,836ms BPM: 78.00

不準別打我 :o
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From your own requested because I asked for mod reqs :D/

[General]
Hmm, the BPM is as wrong as right, because to the tick, 117BPM seems wrong (If you're hearing closely when the drums are introduced, the second snare gets on a red tick), but is still right in the timing when played (I didn't notice any offset of any kind).
I'd use 78 BPM 4/4 instead, the drums are more sticking to that speed. That would change [Easy] pretty much as now the 1/2 notes will become 1/3, and although being the same chart, it'll appear harder to play than with 117.

[Easy]
Lower the OD and HP drain rate a bit ?
Honestly, idk how that should be handled now for modding as the notes' position in the timeline become changed for most of them (being 1/3 now), so some patterns to make it easier. Feel absolutely free to ignore any of them that are senseless or change the map too much and make it lose its fittingness.

00:27:982 (6) - k ? the pitch doesn't seem to change much
00:34:136 (16,17) - 1-color them ?
00:38:751 (23) - kat ?
00:43:623 (32) - don ?
00:44:905 (34) - kat ?
00:49:777 (43) - don ?
And so on with 1/2 (1/3 with new timing), this speed between notes of different color seems a bit high for an Easy, try to make them 1-colored.
02:09:776 (176,177) - WTF
03:35:674 (315) - unsure about deleting it, because this note followed by a big isn't that good for an easy.
[Normal]
Lower the OD and HP drain rate a bit ?
[Hard]



wip, will continue later :D/
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About the timing:

The song follows a compound quarduple (12/8, 6/8 fits here as well) but not a simple quarduple (4/4). In the official music sheet it writes



and another transcript writes



(for the second one by looking through the scripts it holds a strong 6/8 characterisitic as well)

^ That is, a dottoed crotchet has frequency 80 <-> crotchet per minute = 120. (117 here <-> dotted crotchet freq = 79)

As in osu! we use the x/4 timing only, I refer each beat as a crotchet --- and this is the right one.

4/4 does not work as good as 3/4 with the nightcore mod because the song does not hold strictly for the 1/3 structure. You can often find the x-x----x--x which is the 1beat-1.5beat pattern in the song. This occurs rarely in the triplet structure but more commonly under a compound beated ones.
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altc3000 wrote:

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wmfchris wrote:

altc3000 wrote:

留名睇報告先
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我淨係識睇五線譜
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altc3000 wrote:

wmfchris wrote:

留名睇有米3000教音樂
有咩要我教先
我淨係識睇五線譜
神觸3000讀 DSE Music喎
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wmfchris wrote:

altc3000 wrote:

有咩要我教先
我淨係識睇五線譜
神觸3000讀 DSE Music喎
咪又係廢既
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Lukareia wrote:

成版香港人....
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Lukareia wrote:

成版香港人....
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btw all fixed :/
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Lukareia wrote:

成版香港人....
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u.u Merry Christmas <3
Muzukashii
03:05:674 - i think i more prefer K
03:07:213 - ^
sooooooooo moe like you lol star
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Taiko Mod ♪
话说毒男是谁?

[Muzukashii]
这对Muzu Player来说太难了吧？ 建议改成Oni.

00:27:469 - 这很明显可以听到钢琴声，建议加个d然后 00:29:008 (15) - 删除这.
00:32:085 - 加个d...
00:33:623 - ^ 和 删除 00:33:879 (30) -
00:42:341 (61,62,63) - 这三个应该是 d k d 比较顺耳.
01:06:700 - k.
01:14:392 - d比较好吧...
01:17:213 - k.
02:01:572 - ^
02:03:110 - ^
02:09:008 - k
02:12:341 - ddd 比较舒服?
02:29:264 - 加个d?
02:42:854 - k
02:44:392 - ^
02:53:367 (569,570) - 这两个 d k 会比较好哦.

[Futsuu]

00:30:546 - k 吧...( 吧 <--- desu )

嘛Futsuu 还好的说 ...

[Kantan]

没东西找 ╮(╯_╰)╭
话说你跟Saturio是夫妻还是男女朋友？

加油 0.0/
Lukareia
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mintong89 wrote:

话说你跟Saturio是夫妻还是男女朋友？

加油
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frans_niko wrote:

u.u Merry Christmas <3
Muzukashii
03:05:674 - i think i more prefer K
03:07:213 - ^
sooooooooo moe like you lol star
don't sounds like accents?

mintong89 wrote:

Taiko Mod ♪
话说毒男是谁?

[Muzukashii]
这对Muzu Player来说太难了吧？ 建议改成Oni.

00:27:469 - 这很明显可以听到钢琴声，建议加个d然后 00:29:008 (15) - 删除这. Followed the main melody
00:32:085 - 加个d... deleted 00:33:879 - instead and that makes the whole story consistent already
00:33:623 - ^ 和 删除 00:33:879 (30) - ^
00:42:341 (61,62,63) - 这三个应该是 d k d 比较顺耳. Trying not to assign a high note(k) to the middle piano key
01:06:700 - k.
01:14:392 - d比较好吧...
01:17:213 - k.
02:01:572 - ^
02:03:110 - ^
02:09:008 - k
02:12:341 - ddd 比较舒服?
02:29:264 - 加个d?
02:42:854 - k
02:44:392 - ^
02:53:367 (569,570) - 这两个 d k 会比较好哦.

[Futsuu]

00:30:546 - k 吧...( 吧 <--- desu )

嘛Futsuu 还好的说 ...

[Kantan]

没东西找 ╮(╯_╰)╭
话说你跟Saturio是夫妻还是男女朋友？ Guess yourself

加油 0.0/
fixed most, those unchanged are mainly due to pitch consideration.
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hi.

[General]
  1. 好奇怪...timing, 我建議穩個expert再測一測
[Futsuu]
  1. 00:29:777 (10) - How about changing this to kat so it can fit the high pitch from the music?
  2. 01:26:444 (111,112) - k k here sounds better imo.
  3. 01:37:469 (127) - I would like to change it to kat here and remove the kat at 01:38:238 (128) - if I were you because the pitch was descending there, 01:38:238 - is the lowest pitch between these notes.
  4. 01:47:982 (142,143) - dk 1/2 alternative change is quite hard for newbie, I would like to suggest a dd or kk here. (後面晤list出黎)
  5. 02:06:444 (170) - ^base on this and the drum sound, I would suggest a don here.
  6. 02:07:469 (172) - kat?
  7. 02:12:085 (179,180,181) - k dd?
  8. 02:59:520 (255) - Remove the big note here? I can't see any reason that a finish is needed there because there is no accent or strong emotion.
  9. 03:01:059 (257) - ^
  10. 03:11:828 (276) - ^
  11. 03:13:367 (278) - ^
  12. 03:48:238 - Please raise the volume here, there are no reasons that reducing the volume, also, the drum sound is totally covered by background music.
[Muzukashii]
  1. 00:33:879 (24) - How about removing this note? Just feel that this note is quite nonsensical because there is no vocal/drum/instrument present.
  2. 01:47:213 (54) - kat here? Because of the high pitch.
  3. 02:07:469 (113) - kat?
  4. 02:59:520 (77) - Remove the big note here? I can't see any reason that a finish is needed there because there is no accent or strong emotion.
  5. 03:01:059 (81) - ^
  6. 03:09:008 (105) - kat here to fit the drum sound?
[Oni]
  1. 00:32:597 (25) - I would suggest to remove this note or move it to 00:32:085 - because there is no vocal/instrument/drum sound at 00:32:597 -
  2. 00:36:956 (38,39,40) - ......我覺得冇必要用triplet wor :o 都冇music係果讀
  3. 00:56:187 (113,114,115) - ^
  4. 01:32:341 (247,248,249,250,251) - 1/2 is enough here.
  5. 02:18:495 (431,432,433) - ddk here?
  6. 03:59:520 (33,34,35) - ddk?
Oni有d overmap...Timing超級怪 D: 未comfirm到我大概好難bubble...................
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25162,512.820512820513,6,2,0,60,1,0
151305,512.820512820513,6,2,0,60,1,0
191274,512.820512820513,6,2,0,60,1,0
215909,512.820512820513,6,2,0,60,1,1
231288,512.820512820513,6,2,0,60,1,0
263660,512.820512820513,4,2,0,60,1,0

要死 3分钟~4分钟是主要变化发生地.. 普遍快了20左右 x_x 变化前的几个鼓点可能还需要红线来修
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As requested by Wmf, I'm coming for a Taiko mod ~
Let's go :3
Note : This mod is based on the update b4 kpy's mod

Blue~ Critical issues. You must fix this
Purple~ It's better to fix this
Pink~ Suggestions / thoughts only. Change only if you want to
Grey~ Suggestions that have no effects on gameplay

-----------------------

[General]

• Maybe add a taiko bg ? Currently the shorter snowman seems to be cut ? ( See this )

-----------------------

[Oni]

• HP -1 ? Maybe this diff is too easy to have HP 6 ?

• 00:36:956 ( 38~40 ) - imo the 3-plets don't fit well as there's almost no music. Maybe delete all ( or at least 39 ) ?

Suggested patterns
Suggestions only. Change them only if you want to ~

00:41:059 ( 54 ~ 65 ) - Maybe change the hitsounds to this ? ( This fits the pitch better )

00:44:136 ( 66 ~ 77 ) - ^ Consider this ? ( Currently the last part isn't high-piched enough imo )

01:57:213 ( 345 ~ 346 ) - o o ? ( To emphasize the rising pitch at 347 ~ 349 )

02:26:187 ( 461 ) - Blue note ? ( 461 is similar 460 in pitch )

02:49:264 ( 548 ~ 550 ) - ooo ? ( Seems to fit the vocal better )

03:29:008 ( 692 ~ 694 ) - o o o ? ( Last kiai has a higher pitch and this part seems to have too few blue notes ? )

03:31:315 ( 701 ) - Blue note ? ( 701 has a higher pitch than 702 ~ 703 )

03:56:444 ( 20 ~ 26 ) - o o ooooo ? ( Maybe this fits vocal better )

This song doesn't seem to fit an oni well, but at least the diff is ok

-----------------------

[Muzukashii]

• HP -1 if you decide to you HP 5 for oni ?

Suggested patterns
Suggestions only. Change them only if you want to ~

00:46:187 ( 52 ) - Blue note ? ( 52, 54 > 53 in pitch)

00:51:804 ( 69 ) - Red note ? ( 68 < 67 in pitch)
00:53:367 ( 73 ) - ^ ( 73, 72)
01:17:982 ( 142 ) - ^ ( 142, 141)

00:52:341 ( 70 ) - Blue note ? ( 70, 72 > 71 in pitch)

01:32:597 ( 14 ) - ^ ( I personally prefer dkk to represent rising pitch at 13 ~ 15. ddk is fine, though )
01:44:905 ( 47 ) - ^ ( 46 ~ 48 )
02:49:520 ( 48 ) - ^ ( 47 ~ 49 )
03:29:520 ( 159 ) - ^ ( 158 ~ 160 )
03:41:828 ( 190 ) - ^ ( 189 ~ 191 )
03:57:213 ( 14 ) - ^ ( 13 ~ 15 )[/color]
04:09:520 ( 46 ) - ^ ( 45 ~ 47 )

03:10:546 ( 110 ~ 111 ) - o o ? ( To fit the drum at 110. This sounds much better imo )

03:20:290 ( 140 ) - Blue note ? ( 140 > 139 in pitch )

Seems fine. Although some patterns could be a bit repetitive

-----------------------

[Futsuu]

• HP -1 if you decide to you HP 4 for muzu ?

• I wonder if new players will find it difficult to understand the rhythm of notes as they are quite varied. Try to find some testplayers ?

Suggested patterns
Suggestions only. Change them only if you want to ~

00:29:777 ( 10 ) - Blue note ? ( 10 > 9 in pitch )

03:05:674 ( 265, 268 ) - Delete these ? ( The special time signature of this song could make newbies hard to hit them properly )

Other seems fine

Star and good luck ~ ;)
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And I have wanted to start to mod it now. *rage*
Should I chris? @_@
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[Futsuu]

Seems to be fine. Spacings are a bit over Futsuu... but well, can't find any other issues or anything else.

[Muzukashii]

02:07:469 (113,114,115,116) - It sounds a bit weird to me as kkdd, maybe it's because of the high pitch at 113. How about kddk? Would fit good with this timline 02:12:085 (126,127,128,129) -
02:23:110 (159,160,161) - kdk as well and...
02:24:649 (163,164) - ... changing to k d(because of sound in background)? I know you mapped to the vocal and it's just a suggestion from me. d kdk plays just better as d dkd. That's all. Would also fit better at 02:25:161 (164,165) - when the notes wouldn't be k x k, rather d x k.
02:28:238 (171) - d would be nice to have a more constant beat here: kkdk d k d(spinner)
02:41:315 (27) - k to have a conection to 02:37:982 (16,17) - sounds better in my opinion as following just the vocal.
02:59:008 (76,80) - D would be kind of nicer because of beat-following reasons - you could do this in similiar parts as well.
03:03:623 (90,91) - finisher, reason is known I guess
03:29:766 (50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67) - Great constalation!

[Oni]

00:45:162 (69,70,71,72,73) - k k d k d better for vocal?
00:46:956 - maybe add kk (so it is kkd)? Sounds somehow empty without.
02:34:392 (485) - k? just d d d sounds not so nice.
02:42:597 (518) - deleting this note? Would fit to the sound at 02:42:341
02:59:008 (585,589) - same as in muzukashii. D K(same for other patterns)?
03:47:715 (137,138,139) - dkd? Plays I think better.

Overall difficultys are fine.
Merry Christmas~
wmfchris
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OnosakiHito wrote:

[Futsuu]

Seems to be fine. Spacings are a bit over Futsuu... but well, can't find any other issues or anything else.

[Muzukashii]

02:07:469 (113,114,115,116) - It sounds a bit weird to me as kkdd, maybe it's because of the high pitch at 113. How about kddk? Would fit good with this timline 02:12:085 (126,127,128,129) -
02:23:110 (159,160,161) - kdk as well and...
02:24:649 (163,164) - ... changing to k d(because of sound in background)? I know you mapped to the vocal and it's just a suggestion from me. d kdk plays just better as d dkd. That's all. Would also fit better at 02:25:161 (164,165) - when the notes wouldn't be k x k, rather d x k. So I'm now using k k to fit both feeling and the instrument (no vocal for the last note)
02:28:238 (171) - d would be nice to have a more constant beat here: kkdk d k d(spinner)
02:41:315 (27) - k to have a conection to 02:37:982 (16,17) - sounds better in my opinion as following just the vocal.
02:59:008 (76,80) - D would be kind of nicer because of beat-following reasons - you could do this in similiar parts as well. Yes these are spinners
03:03:623 (90,91) - finisher, reason is known I guess
But not for this one. How should I explain this? This is about antithesis and lyric phrasing. 02:58:495 (74,75,76,77,78,79,80,81) - This one comes up with two sentences as a pair and their meaning is producing a contrast. With heavy accents from the music I'll put finishes there. In constrast these two notes does not have such heavy accents (in the music) and doesn't contain special grammatical intention (in the lyrics) so I won't put finish there.
03:29:766 (50,51,52,53,54,55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67) - Great constalation!In terms of the lyrics? lol

[Oni]

00:45:162 (69,70,71,72,73) - k k d k d better for vocal?
00:46:956 - maybe add kk (so it is kkd)? Sounds somehow empty without.
02:34:392 (485) - k? just d d d sounds not so nice.
02:42:597 (518) - deleting this note? Would fit to the sound at 02:42:341 feel like the drum in the music forms a whole sentence and doesn't sound good to break it...
02:59:008 (585,589) - same as in muzukashii. D K(same for other patterns)? Due to the reason explained in Muzu I'll use D D vs K K.
03:47:715 (137,138,139) - dkd? Plays I think better.ddd D and shortened spinner.

Overall difficultys are fine.
Merry Christmas~
Merry Christmas!

I also removed the first kiai agreeing that it sounds too soft.
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