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Mind Game Mafia 2 (Killer Win!)

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Sleep Powder
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Okay... before I use my role. Does anyone want to volunteer to be targets?

I think the best way to do this is to give out all information that we have received and work together.

Anyone who doesn't cooperate is most likely to think that they are the killer.

In case you think someone is suspicious and is lying (on purpose) we can use the lie detector on them.
rust45
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animask wrote:

In case you think someone is suspicious and is lying (on purpose) we can use the lie detector on them.
We've already been told that the lie detector will only work on vague statements.

Also foulcoon, if I had any sort of thought that I was the killer, I wouldn't had said I had targeted Index. If I am the killer, than why would I be told the sanity of my victim? It wouldn't really make much sense at all.
bmin11
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Told to be a vote theif. I have targeted rust45 N1 and haven't recieved any notification. Also reading rust45's post, I don't think he is aware of the vote theif neither, so I'm guessing I'm insane as well.
foulcoon
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I understand. I just thought it was weird that you targetted Index-San. Reading Index's last posts gave me the impression that you might feel the need to kill him.

I guess I'll remove that FoS from rust.

Did anyone other than animask here choose not to use their role?
Rantai
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I was told that I am a psychiatrist. I 'cured' rust45 last night.

I am not sure if it worked or not (received nothing), I think only rust could tell me that.
rust45
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As far as I can tell, nothing happened to me, the only PM I received last night seemed to have to do with my own action.
Rantai
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Rantai
Alrighty, clearly my role is null too.
Rantai
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Rantai
Assuming everyone is not a lying scumbag, <3

What we've got so far is:

- Rantai --> rust45 - No result

- pieguy1372 --> foulcoon - No result

- rust45 --> Index-San (dead) - "Insane response"

- bmin11 --> rust45 - No result

- foulcoon --> animask - No result

- animask --> No action

- Index-San --> Dead

Nothing from - Quaraezha and akrolsmir

Think pieguy could actually be some kind of amnesiac cop with rust45 being the enabler? (assuming I got the names right)
akrolsmir
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Alright, rust45's statement affirms that I'm insane. I was told I could track someone and chose rust, but I never found out who he was trying to target.

On that note, is there anyone here who thinks they are sane? We know one of us is (and not the killer)...
Rantai
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Rantai
I'm willing to bet it was either animask or Q (who is sane).
Rantai
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Rantai
Double posting!

"The sane player has used a night action"

Think that's vague enough to be used?

OH damn. What if the only sane player is vanilla?
akrolsmir
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It's reasonable that it's animask, given that I can't think of any other utility for a role with 2 targets. Rust, could you target him next round and tell us his sanity? Given that you seem to be a cop that can determine people's sanities, and if he is sane we can conclude that everyone else isn't.

We could also use the lie detector to this effect today, but I'd like to hear Q weigh in first in case he's the sane one.
akrolsmir
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Random observation: Ladysuburu's emphasis, considering the OP, seems to be "outside the box" thinking. So what if the fundamental premise that the killer is a role consistently assigned to one of us is incorrect? I can think of some ways this might be true:

1. None of us are the killer and it's just LS messing with us. (somewhat unlikely given that the results of the lie detector day 1)

2. Every round, one of us randomly becomes the "killer" in addition our normal abilities. This may have happened to rust45 during the previous night, thus leading him to inadvertently kill his target in addition to his investigation. (This would match the results of the lie detector.)

3. One of us actually has the ability of assigning someone else to target the killing. I came up with this just based on the fact that rust45's investigation target died, and many of us targeted rust45 without an apparent result. In other words, someone has the ability of killing the target of their target. Candidates for this would be bmin, Rantai and me (and maybe Q). This would also match the results of the lie detector.

Anyone think that any of these theories is plausible?
Rantai
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1. Doubt it.

2. I am not going to put it past LS to do that to us. Plausible I guess.

3. I think it's a little too stretched. Especially considering if the killer targeted someone who doesn't have an ability/passive ability.
Rantai
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Rantai
Then again only Q could possibly have this 'passive role'. Or someone is lying to us.
bmin11
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There shoudn't be a reason to hide if the role is passive or active.
pieguyn
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Wait a minute...

Rantai wrote:

I was told that I am a psychiatrist. I 'cured' rust45 last night.

I am not sure if it worked or not (received nothing), I think only rust could tell me that.
Notice how rust45 was the only one whose role did anything? Maybe once you're "cured" you're capable of actually doing something during the night round, even though it's not what you were originally told. It might be a coincidence (since we don't even know if Rantai is sane), but still, this seems odd. :o
Sleep Powder
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I keep thinking rust is the killer... or a "serial killer".

I think either rust45 or I am the killer. (ooo, worst gambit ever)

Is the sane character the killer? I'm confused... (probably because I'm posting 20 minutes after waking up)
foulcoon
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animask wrote:

Is the sane character the killer? I'm confused...
Unfortunately not, judging by the lie detector result yesterday. So determining the sane person out of the group does nothing but give us one person who is not the killer of the remaining 8.
akrolsmir
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Er, Quaraezha hasn't posted at all in the last week, and I want to find out the results of his role in case he's the sane one... could we get a prod?
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu
Finding a replacement for Quar.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu
Haneii replaces Quar.
rust45
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So Haneii, were you told what you did last night?
foulcoon
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I'm willing to bet Q didn't even use his night action if he had one. For shame...

Could still roleclaim though, that might be helpful.
Rantai
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Hi Haneii.

pieguy1372 wrote:

Wait a minute...
Notice how rust45 was the only one whose role did anything? Maybe once you're "cured" you're capable of actually doing something during the night round, even though it's not what you were originally told. It might be a coincidence (since we don't even know if Rantai is sane), but still, this seems odd. :o
Didn't think of that... maybe I am the sane one.
Haneii
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3am @_@! I really shouldn't be posting when I'm more than half asleep.
Skimmed the thread (will read it/analyze it properly tomorrow) and just pointing a couple of things out

akrolsmir wrote:

Rust, could you target him next round and tell us his sanity? Given that you seem to be a cop that can determine people's sanities, and if he is sane we can conclude that everyone else isn't.

  • Assuming rust's sane now?

    LadySuburu wrote:

    In this game your real role may have nothing to do with your 'known' role.
    Maybe Rantai's not a psychiatrist (ie: rust was never cured) + if Rantai is sane would his/her action affect rust's action for that SAME night?

    In the case of Index, is there a chance that he could have been the sane person in our group?

As for myself:
roleclaim: doctor


Will tell you more once mod answers a question of mine (I'd like to avoid getting mod killed for my first post XD). Off to bed for now o/

~back in 5 - 8 hours ^_^
Haneii
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rust45 wrote:

So Haneii, were you told what you did last night?
2. Do not quote any PM, part or whole, you receive from the Mod. This includes fake or erroneous quoting. Breaking this rule will get you modkilled. However, you may claim any role you please, and explain the powers in any way you please.
What do? o.o
rust45
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There is a such thing as paraphrasing
akrolsmir
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Haneii wrote:

Assuming rust's sane now?
rust's confirmed insane in the sense that his actual role does not match his PM'd role. (He was told he'd be a friendly neighbor in the role PM iirc). It appears that his actual role is to act as a "sanity" cop of sorts, and I would endeavor that his results in this area are accurate, just because knowing sanity has very limited utility anyways so LS probably wouldn't bother to mess with it on top of what she's already done.
bmin11
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I don't even know if my role suppose to be notified anyway. So...

Cure Vote: rust45 twice

that's all I'm gonna do for tonight even though I really doubt my role to be sane
Haneii
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akrolsmir wrote:

Haneii wrote:

Assuming rust's sane now?
rust's confirmed insane in the sense that his actual role does not match his PM'd role.
Oh right, completely forgot about that >_<


Unless something comes up that proves otherwise, for now I'll assume Rantai's sane :)

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Last night Qura did not perform an action.


Adding on to Rantai's list:

- Rantai --> rust45 - Cured

- akrolsmir --> rust45 - No result

- bmin11 --> rust45 - No result

- pieguy1372 --> foulcoon - No result

- foulcoon --> animask - No result

- rust45 --> Index-San (dead) - "Insane response" [Role doesn't match known/pm role]

- animask --> No action

- Q/Haneii --> --> No action

- Index-San --> Dead
Haneii
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Someone knows they killed last night but is now lying about it since they know we''ll drug them. Good thing we have a lie detector.

Fos: Everyone except Rantai

- rust is at the bottom of my list

- akrolsmir is at the top (Why wait before you told us your action? To see if his claim matches yours? But you're known/pm role doesn't "do" anything to it's target (ie: info gathering role). Regardless of what rust would end up saying you should have known that you're insane because you were never told who rust was targeting.)
rust45
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Haneii wrote:

Someone knows they killed last night but is now lying about it since they know we''ll drug them. Good thing we have a lie detector.
If you plan on using it on specific statements, it won't work, we found out in D1 that it would cause it to break down and become unusable.
Haneii
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Yeah, I read that - Since I basically suspect nearly everyone I'm finding it really hard to come up with a vague question


Forgot to add before:
For those who targeted rust last night I'm disregarding the chance that you could be an enabler and opting for possible liar. Mainly because I think it would be a headache to have enablers in a game with so many roles + since this game uses a lie detector so a liar would be more likely.
bmin11
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- Rantai --> rust45 - Cured
This isn't confirmed unless you believe Rantai is the sane one.

Rereading since I think I missed something...
pieguyn
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Maybe we should lie detect this:

The sane person is able to cure the insane people.
That way we'll know if it was just a coincidence...
rust45
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The sane person is able to cure the insane people.
rust45
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Sounds reasonable enough to me. Vote: Above
akrolsmir
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rust45 wrote:

If you plan on using it on specific statements, it won't work, we found out in D1 that it would cause it to break down and become unusable.
Regardless, I think that even if the risk of "XYZ is the killer" breaking the detector high, the reward is pretty good. Alternatively, we could say "XYZ targeted Index-san", which probably has a better chance of working.

Does LS decide on case-by-case scenario whether a post is ambiguous enough to be detected? I wouldn't think so, there's probably some hidden criteria that would be good to figure out.

List below is to illustrate the PM'd roles as well as current suspicions.
(PM) - Person --> Target - result (other notes)

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(Psychiatrist)- Rantai --> rust45 - No result (cured?)

(Tracker)- akrolsmir --> rust45 - No result

(Vote Thief)- bmin11 --> rust45 - No result

(Cop - What kind?)- pieguy1372 --> foulcoon - No result

(Night Vig)- foulcoon --> animask - No result

(Friendly Neighbor)- rust45 --> Index-San - "Insane response" (Sanity Cop)

(Bus Driver)- animask --> No action (Could be sane)

(Doctor)- Q/Haneii --> --> No action (Could be sane)

(?) - Index-San --> Dead (Roleblocker)
bmin11
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I'm not sure where that would take us to. You could always target someone else during N2.

How about "Killer cannot kill it's target"? This could possibly help us to believe one of the person who targetted rust45 could be the killer.
Rantai
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rust45 wrote:

The sane person is able to cure the insane people.
As selfish as it sounds, Vote: That

How I see it is, if it confirms my sanity then I can go around and start curing systematically.

I should mention, if I target the actual killer my role will not cure him/her. So if I, by chance, did target him/her I would get a null result back with no way to tell if I was sane or not. With the lie detector I can at least confirm whether or not I'm a dud.
akrolsmir
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rust45 wrote:

The sane person is able to cure the insane people.
Er... if by "cure" you meant "make them sane and have the ability in their role PM" that clearly didn't happen with rust since he received a result whereas his role shouldn't have had one. I still think animask or Haneii is the best bet in terms of being the sane ones.
pieguyn
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No, by "cure" I meant making them able to use a night action and thus discover what their true role really was. (As it is it seems like no one can do anything at all. :? )
bmin11
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Still not sure since the killer will immediately NK Rantai if we get a positive result from it. It will become a waste and that's what the killer wants I bet
Haneii
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Er... if by "cure" you meant "make them sane and have the ability in their role PM" that clearly didn't happen with rust since he received a result whereas his role shouldn't have had one.[/quote]

So Rantai's insane?

That would mean any of the 3 people who targeted rust could have caused his sanity cop action...or rust is the only one - besides the kille/or is the killer (not counting myself and animask atm) - who can perform an action at night (even though it doesn't match his pm role because he's insane).


I don't think I understand specific vs vague criteria for the lie detector. "My ability targets 1 person" or "I protected X last night" seem pretty specific to me.


How about Killer's name contains an "a" for the lie detector

Answer will narrow things down to 4 people and with 3 vials + more days to use the lie detector we'll have a really good chance of finding the killer :)
akrolsmir
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Moreover the chances of getting a positive result aren't very high to begin with so either way it seems like a waste of a detection.

I still want to try "XYZ is the killer/ targeted ABC" just to see if it'll work.
bmin11
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also, it doesn't necessarily mean Rantai was the one who cured it. It could be anyone of people who targetted rust45.


EDIT: k nvm ninja'd
akrolsmir
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Double post because you're a ninja.

Haneii wrote:

How about Killer's name contains an "a" for the lie detector

Answer will narrow things down to 4 people and with 3 vials + more days to use the lie detector we'll have a really good chance of finding the killer :)
Binary searching ftw.

I wouldn't mind trying this because it's extremely beneficial should it work (either true or false), even if the chance of it working isn't high either- I think LS wanted us to use it to try to catch people lying.
akrolsmir
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The killer's name contains an "a".
akrolsmir
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akrolsmir
You know what let's go for it.
Vote: Above.
Haneii
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akrolsmir wrote:

I think LS wanted us to use it to try to catch people lying.
orz

oh right, it's a lie detector. It can't tell if I'm telling to the truth or lying since I don't know who the killer is >_<


unless it will work regardless of that fact (which I doubt)...
Haneii
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Lie detector =/= oracle
Haneii
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Haneii
~Going to bed~

If you guys do end up voting on something before I get back can you guys make sure bmin is amongst the first 3 to vote (when sure you want the vote hammered)? I'd like to confirm if he's insane or not.
Haneii
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^ forgot to add: And rust shouldn't vote.
bmin11
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Actually, I'm not sure if I steal rust45's drug vote or lie detector vote. Never mentioned about it on my Role PM.
Rantai
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Hmm you might as well be saying "A, B, C or D is the killer"

Sounds a little too specific.
Rantai
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bmin11 wrote:

Still not sure since the killer will immediately NK Rantai if we get a positive result from it. It will become a waste and that's what the killer wants I bet
Oh right. The killer probably has a good idea who he/she is by now. Hmmm.

Unvote - I kind of don't want to know anymore.
akrolsmir
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Rantai wrote:

Hmm you might as well be saying "A, B, C or D is the killer"

Sounds a little too specific.
Well, isn't it more vague than straight-up "A is the killer"?

Hint: "My ability targets 1 person." Would be vague enough for the detector. Likewise, "I protected X last night." Figure the rest out on your own.
Hm... extrapolating based on this, "A targeted X last night" is more vague than "A protected X last night", and "A, B, or C targeted X last night" is even vaguer, so we could say something like "Player A, B, C, or D targeted Index-san last night" where none of those are rust. Or am I just completely off my rocker?
Rantai
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I like that a lot better actually.
foulcoon
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At this point I'm willing to go along with the majority as I'm stumped as far as lie detector posts go. I sort of liked the letter idea, but we don't know if that will work for sure. Nor do we know if akro's idea will work. Perhaps saying "Someone other than rust45 targeted Index-San on Night 1" would work?
bmin11
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Someone other than rust45 targeted Index-San on Night 1
bmin11
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Double vote the above
akrolsmir
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Sure why not, it'd definitively answer the question of if there is a lying killer out there.

Vote: Someone other than rust45 targeted Index-San on Night 1
Rantai
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Vote: What they are

No complaints here.
Haneii
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It's a lie detector guys - you need rust to state something like "I did not kill Index"
Haneii
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Oh well too late, hammered (if bmin can double vote)

meh

Zzzzzz
rust45
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I don't think you get the concept of this lie detector. You did look through the topic right, did you see what we used it on in day 1? The lie detector isn't meant to be used to tell if someone is lying or not. It's to find out facts.
rust45
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Oh yeah, Vote: What they were voting
Haneii
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The lie detector isn't meant to detect lies? *mind blown*

Also, why did you vote rust? Why???!!! *rage*
rust45
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I voted because I'm pretty sure I'm not the killer and I probably wouldn't be able to change their opinion on what to vote for.
Haneii
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You ignored my request + voted for something just because everyone else is voting for it (you don't have another reason since you know what the lie detector will answer)?

Fos: Rust (oh how I want to force a vial down your throat right now ^_^)
Haneii
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Lol can't sleep :p

If the lie detector breaks down because of that statement can we begin to use the detector to make the game more like a traditional mafia game. ie: we vote for someone to say "I did not perform an action on X" where X would be one of our dead. Basically giving us the same info a lynch would but without killing anyone

If the lie detector doesn't break, then it'll probably work with the letter statement.
Rantai
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Haneii wrote:

Fos: Rust (oh how I want to force a vial down your throat right now ^_^)
Let's force it down anyway and observe it's effects.

Hi rust.

On a serious note: That method would probably be way too slow (single person statements), unless we get lucky.
bmin11
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It would work since we are only getting a single death per day. After eliminating some branches of possibility, I think it could be a good method.
LadySuburu
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bmin11 wrote:

Someone other than rust45 targeted Index-San on Night 1
Processing....

Processing....

True

With that question answered, the detector powers off. It seems it needs to recharge.
Haneii
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bmin targeted Index!

oh right...lie detector doesn't work that way. Insane lie detector!

Okay, I don't see how this information helps us now - more than one person targeted Index but we don't know who's action actually killed him.

Now what?
rust45
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It shows my most likely innocence as it shows the PM I got from the mod was likely from targeting Index.
Rantai
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Well I think that clears rust45.

So who's our liar then?

In order of suspicion I think -

akrolsmir - How to say, he was holding back on his targeting claims
animask - "didn't do anything", ok sure >.>
Haneii - Only because of Q, not the biggest feeling here.

All gut though.
foulcoon
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Rantai wrote:

Well I think that clears rust45.

So who's our liar then?

In order of suspicion I think -

akrolsmir - How to say, he was holding back on his targeting claims
animask - "didn't do anything", ok sure >.>
Haneii - Only because of Q, not the biggest feeling here.

All gut though.
I agree with akro and Haneii, but not really with animask. I targeted him night one simply because I expected to be insane anyways (8:9 chance). He also winds up being the most suspicious person in every other mafia game so I figured why not? While him not using his night action at all does seem kind of stupid, that seems like typical animask to me.
Haneii
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rust45 wrote:

It shows my most likely innocence
Already knew you were most likely innocent. And the lie detector results don't clear you completely (you neither moved up or down on my fos list :| )

2 days and we don't know anything :/

Can we cure someone?

Thus far we've failed to narrow anything down - use a vial today, come up with better questions in the future to avoid using vials.

Unless you guys would rather wait it out longer...

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Rantai wrote:

In order of suspicion I think -

akrolsmir - How to say, he was holding back on his targeting claims
animask - "didn't do anything", ok sure >.>
Haneii - Only because of Q, not the biggest feeling here.

akrolsmir used to be at the top of my list but his actions are proving to be very pro- town (ie: trying to figure out the quickest way in identifying the killer). I don't really suspect him anymore o.o

I suspect everyone else equally - rust being at the bottom of my fos list :)

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Also, how sure can the killer be that he is the killer? What if more than 2 people targeted Index that night? Some poor person might think they're the killer because they targeted Index, but it could have been the action of someone else that really killed him. And of course, they'd lie about it because they wouldn't want to be "cured"

GUYS JUST TELL THE TRUTH - who knows, (if you are the killer) maybe curing you would change your alignment? And if you die, at least you'll help clear the situation up a bit...maybe >_<.
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This game is hard T_T
akrolsmir
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Rantai wrote:

akrolsmir - How to say, he was holding back on his targeting claims
animask - "didn't do anything", ok sure >.>
Haneii - Only because of Q, not the biggest feeling here.
I was trying to draw some sort of a reaction out of rust since he revealed the most information day 1, on the off chance he turned out to be the killer. (Looking back it was probably a stupid idea.)

I think animask is actually the least suspicious (right after rust) since he made the claim of having 2 targets on the first day, when no one really has an incentive to lie. I still think he's the sane one as a real bus driver.
Sleep Powder
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Can only the killer kill?

I still feel like akrolsmir is suspicious, but not to the point where I would vote to give him a vial.
His logic seems flawed in some ways... I'm not going to say which ways, because I want him to tell me
what he thinks that I think is suspicous about him.
Sleep Powder
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Oh and I'm still accepting requests for who wants to be driven.
Haneii
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animask wrote:

Oh and I'm still accepting requests for who wants to be driven.

Killer could target the same people you end up choosing and try and frame you.
Haneii
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^ what I mean is I don't think its a good idea to make your choices public
rust45
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animask wrote:

Oh and I'm still accepting requests for who wants to be driven.
How will we even know it worked? We won't. It's probably best we don't discuss who we plan to target so the killer can't target the same person and pin it on us.
pieguyn
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I have a good feeling about akrolsmir, but keep in mind that the killer doesn't know he's the killer. Even though he's trying to find the killer, he might be the killer himself and just not know it. :?

We don't know if animask is sane or not, and we'll only know if he does something during the Night round. However, I have a gut feeling that the killer was not one of the people who said they had no action (meaning they said they targeted someone else). >.<

I still have a bad feeling about foulcoon and I have since day 1, hence my night action. That's just a gut feeling though. :cry:
Rantai
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Rantai
Hmm it seems we're on a different page then.

I'm not a fan of voting on a gut feeling so...

Vote: No meds
foulcoon
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foulcoon

pieguy1372 wrote:

I still have a bad feeling about foulcoon and I have since day 1, hence my night action. That's just a gut feeling though. :cry:
so you had a gut feeling that i was the killer on the day in which we determined via the mod that the killer did not know that they were the killer? I don't really understand.
Rantai
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Rantai
I'm fairly certain he isn't accusing you based on your actions.
bmin11
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Instead of thinking who's suspicious or not, I'm going to write who isn'ts o suspicious

rust45: obvious reason

Q/Haneii: I believe his no action. Q clearly had no time to make his action for the same reason for other forum games he is playing.

foulcoon: He was so certain that he wasn't the killer and just targetted animask. The only reason why he would be so sure is when he's given role was the killer. So, I believe he's role claim and his targetting.


That's all I can think of at the moment. I'm getting way too much WIFOM from the others @_@ this is makin me confusing




Haneii wrote:

GUYS JUST TELL THE TRUTH
Not sure how it would help, but I'll explain my thoughts during N1.
First, I was thinking of targetting Index-San as an test mouse. But, I soon thought "wouldn't it be a waste of NK if I was actually the killer?" (no offense) and changed my target to foulcoon. But I was also worry maybe a sane doctor or even that animask's bus driver might protect foulcoon from being NK. I also didn't want to steal a vote from foulcoon in case I was sane. Same goes to Rantai. So I ended up targetting rust45 who I thought it wouldn't be a huge waste of NK and an ok target to steal a vote from.
Rantai
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Rantai
Ok people, this will probably be my last post for the next 2-3 days. I'm off to Melbourne and most likely won't have any internet.

If you need to replace, do it. If not, see you all on Sunday ^.^
akrolsmir
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bmin11 wrote:

First, I was thinking of targetting Index-San as an test mouse.
And rust45 actually targeted Index-San, and the killer too chose her (him?) How come everyone was targeting Index-san? S/he didn't seem to do anything out of the ordinary day 1...

Vote: No Meds No one's suspicious enough to be worth using up a cure at this point.
pieguyn
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pieguyn
vote no meds

foulcoon wrote:

so you had a gut feeling that i was the killer on the day in which we determined via the mod that the killer did not know that they were the killer? I don't really understand.
I know, but I had a gut feeling about you anyway. I can't explain it >.< It's not like it even mattered in the end, considering my night action didn't work.

Oh great, why didn't I think of this before? We could have lie detected this

The insane players receive no response from their night actions
though I'm not sure that would have worked. :?
foulcoon
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foulcoon
I don't think it would. rust is almost definitely confirmed insane and he got a response from his night action, just not the one he was expecting.
LadySuburu
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The day ends, and everyone decides to go to sleep.

No Cure was used Day 2.

It is now Night 2. Please send all Night actions by Monday at this time, or whenever Rantai gets back. (No less than 24 hours.)
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu
Extended until tomorrow morning/afternoon because the file I needed (and I was absolutely sure I had with me...) I apperently don't have with me.

Someone slap me after this game.
akrolsmir
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akrolsmir
GOOGLE DOCS.

Seriously I use that for like everything.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

akrolsmir wrote:

GOOGLE DOCS.

Seriously I use that for like everything.
I had the file with me in a Zip, then it mysteriously disappeared. Hmm, maybe I'll make that the theme of the next MGM.

bmin11 - Doctor - Killed Night 2.

It is now day 3. With 7 alive, it's 4 to cure or detect.

4 days until deadline.
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bmin11
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Well, good luck guys
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