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Vote: Thatakrolsmir wrote:
The killer is aware that they are the killer.
vote: thisakrolsmir wrote:
The killer is aware that they are the killer.
This is what I was wondering about (and why I asked about sanities). I wasn't sure if "sane" in this case was referring to the definition that I thought only applied to cops.akrolsmir wrote:
We probably should get our terminology straight so we don't start confusing one another. The OP stated:It's known that only one of you is sane.And I assumed that meant only one of our roles is exactly equivalent to what the role PM stated, and everyone else had an actual role different from the stated one. I took the former to mean "sane" and the latter "insane". This differs from the traditional definition (which only applies to cops if I'm reading the wiki correctly), but it'll probably be more appropriate for this game. Unless you want to use "deluded" or something instead to avoid confusion?
So basically I was saying that the killer has no idea that s/he is the killer.
I assume that in this case "sane" means that they don't know what they actually are, since it would make a lot more sense in this particular game.I already voted no drug, didn't I? o.o If not, vote no drug
Oh yeah, somehow I got it in my head that it was done for the day.
Vote:
Vote:
akrolsmir wrote:
The killer is aware that they are the killer.
Currently, I'm willing to vote for no drug and "The killer is aware that they are the killer" statement. But before voting, I want to hear if Q or foulcoon has a better idea. We still have 37 hours anyway.
even we got 100 hours left...we can't do anything since we have no clue or something suspicious......
unless somebody got crazy and random vote on someone that will make this discussion suddenly heat up
unless somebody got crazy and random vote on someone that will make this discussion suddenly heat up
I'm just saying they could come up with different statements or something. Why seal the possibility?
anyway, 7 votes for no drug (hammered), 4 votes for the statement (1 vote to hammer), and a vote for the not-well-worded statement.
Topic Starter
SPOILER
Mod note: When a cure is hammered, the day ends. When No Drug is hammered, the day ends only if the lie detector has been used. If it hasn't, the day will end when it has. At that point you cannot unvote the no drug, however.
Edit: Fixed wording and added one more thing.
vote: what they all said
I have no better ideas for today
I have no better ideas for today
Topic Starter
Working.....akrolsmir wrote:
The killer is aware that they are the killer.
Working.....
Analysis complete.
The above statement is false.
With that being said, everyone went off to sleep for the night.
The cure was not used D1.
It is now Night 1. Please send all night actions within 24 hours.
Topic Starter
In the morning, the corpse of Index-san was found.
Index-san - Roleblocker - Killed Night 1
It is now day 2. With 8 alive, it's 4 to cure and detect.
Deadline is 5 days.
Index-san - Roleblocker - Killed Night 1
It is now day 2. With 8 alive, it's 4 to cure and detect.
Deadline is 5 days.
Topic Starter
At the request of players, here's a definition of "Sanity" for this game.
Sanity determines if a player knows his role exactally or not. Same as in the case of an Insane Cop, who believes they are a regular cop. However, in this game your real role may have nothing to do with your 'known' role.
Sanity determines if a player knows his role exactally or not. Same as in the case of an Insane Cop, who believes they are a regular cop. However, in this game your real role may have nothing to do with your 'known' role.
Do we mass roleclaim, now? Since now everyone probably has a general idea of their actual roles.
Oh, it was Night 1 already?
Well, I didn't use my role like requested anyways...
Roleclaim: Bus Driver "supposed role" anyways...
Did the killer use their role last night?
FoS akrolsmir
Well, I didn't use my role like requested anyways...
Roleclaim: Bus Driver "supposed role" anyways...
Did the killer use their role last night?
FoS akrolsmir
There's no way we can quite be sure about what our roles actually did. And what would we roleclaim exactly?akrolsmir wrote:
Do we mass roleclaim, now? Since now everyone probably has a general idea of their actual roles.
You, at least, should have a good idea about what role you have.rust45 wrote:
There's no way we can quite be sure about what our roles actually did. And what would we roleclaim exactly?
It'd be helpful to claim both the role you were PM'd originally, and your current suspicion of your true role based on the result from the night.
(Not roleclaiming for the moment because I want to see if rust's claims matches mine)
I was told I was a cop, but my role didn't seem to do anything.
I might actually be a doctor, or perhaps something else
I might actually be a doctor, or perhaps something else
I was told I was a neighbor (as I've stated before) but from the results from last night, I seem to be able to diagnose people by their sanity. As when I used my role. I was told insane. My target was Index though so the info is useless.akrolsmir wrote:
You, at least, should have a good idea about what role you have.rust45 wrote:
There's no way we can quite be sure about what our roles actually did. And what would we roleclaim exactly?
It'd be helpful to claim both the role you were PM'd originally, and your current suspicion of your true role based on the result from the night.
(Not roleclaiming for the moment because I want to see if rust's claims matches mine)
Oh also, I targeted foulcoon, but as I said it didn't seem to do anything.
So, it seems that only one of us actually has the role we were told we had (and we also know the killer was not told he was the killer). For some reason, I'm inclined to think there's some huge catch that we're missing that will cause a mass roleclaim to fail (I'm sure LadySuburu would take steps to make sure that wouldn't work this time). However, I think at that point it's the best choice we've got.
So, it seems that only one of us actually has the role we were told we had (and we also know the killer was not told he was the killer).
For some reason, I'm inclined to think there's some huge catch that we're missing that will cause a mass roleclaim to fail (I'm sure LadySuburu would take steps to make sure that wouldn't work this time). However, I think at that point it's the best choice we've got.I was told that I was the Night Vigilante. I targeted animask (sorry bro) but it appears to not have done anything.
FoS: rust
His claim sounds a bit convenient for me, yet I don't really know if we have enough information to start a drug vote for today. Did anyone else target Index-San?
I also wonder if its possible that the killer could target one player and kill another... It seems unlikely though since there would probably need to be a bus driver and animask didn't try his role.
Does anyone think that they could be the sane one?
FoS: rust
His claim sounds a bit convenient for me, yet I don't really know if we have enough information to start a drug vote for today. Did anyone else target Index-San?
I also wonder if its possible that the killer could target one player and kill another... It seems unlikely though since there would probably need to be a bus driver and animask didn't try his role.
Does anyone think that they could be the sane one?
Okay... before I use my role. Does anyone want to volunteer to be targets?
I think the best way to do this is to give out all information that we have received and work together.
Anyone who doesn't cooperate is most likely to think that they are the killer.
In case you think someone is suspicious and is lying (on purpose) we can use the lie detector on them.
I think the best way to do this is to give out all information that we have received and work together.
Anyone who doesn't cooperate is most likely to think that they are the killer.
In case you think someone is suspicious and is lying (on purpose) we can use the lie detector on them.
We've already been told that the lie detector will only work on vague statements.animask wrote:
In case you think someone is suspicious and is lying (on purpose) we can use the lie detector on them.
Also foulcoon, if I had any sort of thought that I was the killer, I wouldn't had said I had targeted Index. If I am the killer, than why would I be told the sanity of my victim? It wouldn't really make much sense at all.
Told to be a vote theif. I have targeted rust45 N1 and haven't recieved any notification. Also reading rust45's post, I don't think he is aware of the vote theif neither, so I'm guessing I'm insane as well.
I understand. I just thought it was weird that you targetted Index-San. Reading Index's last posts gave me the impression that you might feel the need to kill him.
I guess I'll remove that FoS from rust.
Did anyone other than animask here choose not to use their role?
I guess I'll remove that FoS from rust.
Did anyone other than animask here choose not to use their role?
I was told that I am a psychiatrist. I 'cured' rust45 last night.
I am not sure if it worked or not (received nothing), I think only rust could tell me that.
I am not sure if it worked or not (received nothing), I think only rust could tell me that.
As far as I can tell, nothing happened to me, the only PM I received last night seemed to have to do with my own action.
Alrighty, clearly my role is null too.
Assuming everyone is not a lying scumbag, <3
What we've got so far is:
- Rantai --> rust45 - No result
- pieguy1372 --> foulcoon - No result
- rust45 --> Index-San (dead) - "Insane response"
- bmin11 --> rust45 - No result
- foulcoon --> animask - No result
- animask --> No action
- Index-San --> Dead
Nothing from - Quaraezha and akrolsmir
Think pieguy could actually be some kind of amnesiac cop with rust45 being the enabler? (assuming I got the names right)
What we've got so far is:
- Rantai --> rust45 - No result
- pieguy1372 --> foulcoon - No result
- rust45 --> Index-San (dead) - "Insane response"
- bmin11 --> rust45 - No result
- foulcoon --> animask - No result
- animask --> No action
- Index-San --> Dead
Nothing from - Quaraezha and akrolsmir
Think pieguy could actually be some kind of amnesiac cop with rust45 being the enabler? (assuming I got the names right)
Alright, rust45's statement affirms that I'm insane. I was told I could track someone and chose rust, but I never found out who he was trying to target.
On that note, is there anyone here who thinks they are sane? We know one of us is (and not the killer)...
On that note, is there anyone here who thinks they are sane? We know one of us is (and not the killer)...
I'm willing to bet it was either animask or Q (who is sane).
Double posting!
"The sane player has used a night action"
Think that's vague enough to be used?
OH damn. What if the only sane player is vanilla?
"The sane player has used a night action"
Think that's vague enough to be used?
OH damn. What if the only sane player is vanilla?
It's reasonable that it's animask, given that I can't think of any other utility for a role with 2 targets. Rust, could you target him next round and tell us his sanity? Given that you seem to be a cop that can determine people's sanities, and if he is sane we can conclude that everyone else isn't.
We could also use the lie detector to this effect today, but I'd like to hear Q weigh in first in case he's the sane one.
We could also use the lie detector to this effect today, but I'd like to hear Q weigh in first in case he's the sane one.
Random observation: Ladysuburu's emphasis, considering the OP, seems to be "outside the box" thinking. So what if the fundamental premise that the killer is a role consistently assigned to one of us is incorrect? I can think of some ways this might be true:
1. None of us are the killer and it's just LS messing with us. (somewhat unlikely given that the results of the lie detector day 1)
2. Every round, one of us randomly becomes the "killer" in addition our normal abilities. This may have happened to rust45 during the previous night, thus leading him to inadvertently kill his target in addition to his investigation. (This would match the results of the lie detector.)
3. One of us actually has the ability of assigning someone else to target the killing. I came up with this just based on the fact that rust45's investigation target died, and many of us targeted rust45 without an apparent result. In other words, someone has the ability of killing the target of their target. Candidates for this would be bmin, Rantai and me (and maybe Q). This would also match the results of the lie detector.
Anyone think that any of these theories is plausible?
1. None of us are the killer and it's just LS messing with us. (somewhat unlikely given that the results of the lie detector day 1)
2. Every round, one of us randomly becomes the "killer" in addition our normal abilities. This may have happened to rust45 during the previous night, thus leading him to inadvertently kill his target in addition to his investigation. (This would match the results of the lie detector.)
3. One of us actually has the ability of assigning someone else to target the killing. I came up with this just based on the fact that rust45's investigation target died, and many of us targeted rust45 without an apparent result. In other words, someone has the ability of killing the target of their target. Candidates for this would be bmin, Rantai and me (and maybe Q). This would also match the results of the lie detector.
Anyone think that any of these theories is plausible?
1. Doubt it.
2. I am not going to put it past LS to do that to us. Plausible I guess.
3. I think it's a little too stretched. Especially considering if the killer targeted someone who doesn't have an ability/passive ability.
2. I am not going to put it past LS to do that to us. Plausible I guess.
3. I think it's a little too stretched. Especially considering if the killer targeted someone who doesn't have an ability/passive ability.
Then again only Q could possibly have this 'passive role'. Or someone is lying to us.
There shoudn't be a reason to hide if the role is passive or active.
Wait a minute...
Notice how rust45 was the only one whose role did anything? Maybe once you're "cured" you're capable of actually doing something during the night round, even though it's not what you were originally told. It might be a coincidence (since we don't even know if Rantai is sane), but still, this seems odd.Rantai wrote:
I was told that I am a psychiatrist. I 'cured' rust45 last night.
I am not sure if it worked or not (received nothing), I think only rust could tell me that.
I keep thinking rust is the killer... or a "serial killer".
I think either rust45 or I am the killer. (ooo, worst gambit ever)
Is the sane character the killer? I'm confused... (probably because I'm posting 20 minutes after waking up)
I think either rust45 or I am the killer. (ooo, worst gambit ever)
Is the sane character the killer? I'm confused... (probably because I'm posting 20 minutes after waking up)
Unfortunately not, judging by the lie detector result yesterday. So determining the sane person out of the group does nothing but give us one person who is not the killer of the remaining 8.animask wrote:
Is the sane character the killer? I'm confused...
Er, Quaraezha hasn't posted at all in the last week, and I want to find out the results of his role in case he's the sane one... could we get a prod?
Topic Starter
Finding a replacement for Quar.
Topic Starter
Haneii replaces Quar.
So Haneii, were you told what you did last night?
I'm willing to bet Q didn't even use his night action if he had one. For shame...
Could still roleclaim though, that might be helpful.
Could still roleclaim though, that might be helpful.
Hi Haneii.
Didn't think of that... maybe I am the sane one.pieguy1372 wrote:
Wait a minute...
Notice how rust45 was the only one whose role did anything? Maybe once you're "cured" you're capable of actually doing something during the night round, even though it's not what you were originally told. It might be a coincidence (since we don't even know if Rantai is sane), but still, this seems odd.
3am @_@! I really shouldn't be posting when I'm more than half asleep.
Skimmed the thread (will read it/analyze it properly tomorrow) and just pointing a couple of things out
As for myself:
roleclaim: doctor
Will tell you more once mod answers a question of mine (I'd like to avoid getting mod killed for my first post XD). Off to bed for now o/
~back in 5 - 8 hours ^_^
Skimmed the thread (will read it/analyze it properly tomorrow) and just pointing a couple of things out
akrolsmir wrote:
Rust, could you target him next round and tell us his sanity? Given that you seem to be a cop that can determine people's sanities, and if he is sane we can conclude that everyone else isn't.
Assuming rust's sane now?
Maybe Rantai's not a psychiatrist (ie: rust was never cured) + if Rantai is sane would his/her action affect rust's action for that SAME night?LadySuburu wrote:
In this game your real role may have nothing to do with your 'known' role.
In the case of Index, is there a chance that he could have been the sane person in our group?
As for myself:
roleclaim: doctor
Will tell you more once mod answers a question of mine (I'd like to avoid getting mod killed for my first post XD). Off to bed for now o/
~back in 5 - 8 hours ^_^
rust45 wrote:
So Haneii, were you told what you did last night?
2. Do not quote any PM, part or whole, you receive from the Mod. This includes fake or erroneous quoting. Breaking this rule will get you modkilled. However, you may claim any role you please, and explain the powers in any way you please.What do? o.o
There is a such thing as paraphrasing
rust's confirmed insane in the sense that his actual role does not match his PM'd role. (He was told he'd be a friendly neighbor in the role PM iirc). It appears that his actual role is to act as a "sanity" cop of sorts, and I would endeavor that his results in this area are accurate, just because knowing sanity has very limited utility anyways so LS probably wouldn't bother to mess with it on top of what she's already done.Haneii wrote:
Assuming rust's sane now?
I don't even know if my role suppose to be notified anyway. So...
Cure Vote: rust45 twice
that's all I'm gonna do for tonight even though I really doubt my role to be sane
Cure Vote: rust45 twice
that's all I'm gonna do for tonight even though I really doubt my role to be sane
Oh right, completely forgot about that >_<akrolsmir wrote:
rust's confirmed insane in the sense that his actual role does not match his PM'd role.Haneii wrote:
Assuming rust's sane now?
Unless something comes up that proves otherwise, for now I'll assume Rantai's sane :)
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Last night Qura did not perform an action.
Adding on to Rantai's list:
- Rantai --> rust45 - Cured
- akrolsmir --> rust45 - No result
- bmin11 --> rust45 - No result
- pieguy1372 --> foulcoon - No result
- foulcoon --> animask - No result
- rust45 --> Index-San (dead) - "Insane response" [Role doesn't match known/pm role]
- animask --> No action
- Q/Haneii --> --> No action
- Index-San --> Dead
Someone knows they killed last night but is now lying about it since they know we''ll drug them. Good thing we have a lie detector.
Fos: Everyone except Rantai
- rust is at the bottom of my list
- akrolsmir is at the top (Why wait before you told us your action? To see if his claim matches yours? But you're known/pm role doesn't "do" anything to it's target (ie: info gathering role). Regardless of what rust would end up saying you should have known that you're insane because you were never told who rust was targeting.)
Fos: Everyone except Rantai
- rust is at the bottom of my list
- akrolsmir is at the top (Why wait before you told us your action? To see if his claim matches yours? But you're known/pm role doesn't "do" anything to it's target (ie: info gathering role). Regardless of what rust would end up saying you should have known that you're insane because you were never told who rust was targeting.)
If you plan on using it on specific statements, it won't work, we found out in D1 that it would cause it to break down and become unusable.Haneii wrote:
Someone knows they killed last night but is now lying about it since they know we''ll drug them. Good thing we have a lie detector.
Yeah, I read that - Since I basically suspect nearly everyone I'm finding it really hard to come up with a vague question
Forgot to add before:
For those who targeted rust last night I'm disregarding the chance that you could be an enabler and opting for possible liar. Mainly because I think it would be a headache to have enablers in a game with so many roles + since this game uses a lie detector so a liar would be more likely.
Forgot to add before:
For those who targeted rust last night I'm disregarding the chance that you could be an enabler and opting for possible liar. Mainly because I think it would be a headache to have enablers in a game with so many roles + since this game uses a lie detector so a liar would be more likely.
- Rantai --> rust45 - CuredThis isn't confirmed unless you believe Rantai is the sane one.
Rereading since I think I missed something...
Maybe we should lie detect this:
The sane person is able to cure the insane people.That way we'll know if it was just a coincidence...
The sane person is able to cure the insane people.
Sounds reasonable enough to me. Vote: Above
Regardless, I think that even if the risk of "XYZ is the killer" breaking the detector high, the reward is pretty good. Alternatively, we could say "XYZ targeted Index-san", which probably has a better chance of working.rust45 wrote:
If you plan on using it on specific statements, it won't work, we found out in D1 that it would cause it to break down and become unusable.
Does LS decide on case-by-case scenario whether a post is ambiguous enough to be detected? I wouldn't think so, there's probably some hidden criteria that would be good to figure out.
List below is to illustrate the PM'd roles as well as current suspicions.
(PM) - Person --> Target - result (other notes)
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(Psychiatrist)- Rantai --> rust45 - No result (cured?)
(Tracker)- akrolsmir --> rust45 - No result
(Vote Thief)- bmin11 --> rust45 - No result
(Cop - What kind?)- pieguy1372 --> foulcoon - No result
(Night Vig)- foulcoon --> animask - No result
(Friendly Neighbor)- rust45 --> Index-San - "Insane response" (Sanity Cop)
(Bus Driver)- animask --> No action (Could be sane)
(Doctor)- Q/Haneii --> --> No action (Could be sane)
(?) - Index-San --> Dead (Roleblocker)
I'm not sure where that would take us to. You could always target someone else during N2.
How about "Killer cannot kill it's target"? This could possibly help us to believe one of the person who targetted rust45 could be the killer.
How about "Killer cannot kill it's target"? This could possibly help us to believe one of the person who targetted rust45 could be the killer.
As selfish as it sounds, Vote: Thatrust45 wrote:
The sane person is able to cure the insane people.
How I see it is, if it confirms my sanity then I can go around and start curing systematically.
I should mention, if I target the actual killer my role will not cure him/her. So if I, by chance, did target him/her I would get a null result back with no way to tell if I was sane or not. With the lie detector I can at least confirm whether or not I'm a dud.
Er... if by "cure" you meant "make them sane and have the ability in their role PM" that clearly didn't happen with rust since he received a result whereas his role shouldn't have had one. I still think animask or Haneii is the best bet in terms of being the sane ones.rust45 wrote:
The sane person is able to cure the insane people.
No, by "cure" I meant making them able to use a night action and thus discover what their true role really was. (As it is it seems like no one can do anything at all. )
)Still not sure since the killer will immediately NK Rantai if we get a positive result from it. It will become a waste and that's what the killer wants I bet
Er... if by "cure" you meant "make them sane and have the ability in their role PM" that clearly didn't happen with rust since he received a result whereas his role shouldn't have had one.[/quote]
So Rantai's insane?
That would mean any of the 3 people who targeted rust could have caused his sanity cop action...or rust is the only one - besides the kille/or is the killer (not counting myself and animask atm) - who can perform an action at night (even though it doesn't match his pm role because he's insane).
I don't think I understand specific vs vague criteria for the lie detector. "My ability targets 1 person" or "I protected X last night" seem pretty specific to me.
How about Killer's name contains an "a" for the lie detector
Answer will narrow things down to 4 people and with 3 vials + more days to use the lie detector we'll have a really good chance of finding the killer :)
So Rantai's insane?
That would mean any of the 3 people who targeted rust could have caused his sanity cop action...or rust is the only one - besides the kille/or is the killer (not counting myself and animask atm) - who can perform an action at night (even though it doesn't match his pm role because he's insane).
I don't think I understand specific vs vague criteria for the lie detector. "My ability targets 1 person" or "I protected X last night" seem pretty specific to me.
How about Killer's name contains an "a" for the lie detector
Answer will narrow things down to 4 people and with 3 vials + more days to use the lie detector we'll have a really good chance of finding the killer :)
Moreover the chances of getting a positive result aren't very high to begin with so either way it seems like a waste of a detection.
I still want to try "XYZ is the killer/ targeted ABC" just to see if it'll work.
I still want to try "XYZ is the killer/ targeted ABC" just to see if it'll work.
also, it doesn't necessarily mean Rantai was the one who cured it. It could be anyone of people who targetted rust45.
EDIT: k nvm ninja'd
EDIT: k nvm ninja'd
Double post because you're a ninja.
I wouldn't mind trying this because it's extremely beneficial should it work (either true or false), even if the chance of it working isn't high either- I think LS wanted us to use it to try to catch people lying.
Binary searching ftw.Haneii wrote:
How about Killer's name contains an "a" for the lie detector
Answer will narrow things down to 4 people and with 3 vials + more days to use the lie detector we'll have a really good chance of finding the killer
I wouldn't mind trying this because it's extremely beneficial should it work (either true or false), even if the chance of it working isn't high either- I think LS wanted us to use it to try to catch people lying.
orzakrolsmir wrote:
I think LS wanted us to use it to try to catch people lying.
oh right, it's a lie detector. It can't tell if I'm telling to the truth or lying since I don't know who the killer is >_<
unless it will work regardless of that fact (which I doubt)...
Lie detector =/= oracle
~Going to bed~
If you guys do end up voting on something before I get back can you guys make sure bmin is amongst the first 3 to vote (when sure you want the vote hammered)? I'd like to confirm if he's insane or not.
If you guys do end up voting on something before I get back can you guys make sure bmin is amongst the first 3 to vote (when sure you want the vote hammered)? I'd like to confirm if he's insane or not.
^ forgot to add: And rust shouldn't vote.
Actually, I'm not sure if I steal rust45's drug vote or lie detector vote. Never mentioned about it on my Role PM.
Hmm you might as well be saying "A, B, C or D is the killer"
Sounds a little too specific.
Sounds a little too specific.
Oh right. The killer probably has a good idea who he/she is by now. Hmmm.bmin11 wrote:
Still not sure since the killer will immediately NK Rantai if we get a positive result from it. It will become a waste and that's what the killer wants I bet
Unvote - I kind of don't want to know anymore.
Well, isn't it more vague than straight-up "A is the killer"?Rantai wrote:
Hmm you might as well be saying "A, B, C or D is the killer"
Sounds a little too specific.
Hint: "My ability targets 1 person." Would be vague enough for the detector. Likewise, "I protected X last night." Figure the rest out on your own.Hm... extrapolating based on this, "A targeted X last night" is more vague than "A protected X last night", and "A, B, or C targeted X last night" is even vaguer, so we could say something like "Player A, B, C, or D targeted Index-san last night" where none of those are rust. Or am I just completely off my rocker?
I like that a lot better actually.
At this point I'm willing to go along with the majority as I'm stumped as far as lie detector posts go. I sort of liked the letter idea, but we don't know if that will work for sure. Nor do we know if akro's idea will work. Perhaps saying "Someone other than rust45 targeted Index-San on Night 1" would work?
Someone other than rust45 targeted Index-San on Night 1
Double vote the above
Sure why not, it'd definitively answer the question of if there is a lying killer out there.
Vote: Someone other than rust45 targeted Index-San on Night 1
Vote: Someone other than rust45 targeted Index-San on Night 1
Vote: What they are
No complaints here.
No complaints here.
It's a lie detector guys - you need rust to state something like "I did not kill Index"
Oh well too late, hammered (if bmin can double vote)
meh
Zzzzzz
meh
Zzzzzz
I don't think you get the concept of this lie detector. You did look through the topic right, did you see what we used it on in day 1? The lie detector isn't meant to be used to tell if someone is lying or not. It's to find out facts.
Oh yeah, Vote: What they were voting
The lie detector isn't meant to detect lies? *mind blown*
Also, why did you vote rust? Why???!!! *rage*
Also, why did you vote rust? Why???!!! *rage*
I voted because I'm pretty sure I'm not the killer and I probably wouldn't be able to change their opinion on what to vote for.
You ignored my request + voted for something just because everyone else is voting for it (you don't have another reason since you know what the lie detector will answer)?
Fos: Rust (oh how I want to force a vial down your throat right now ^_^)
Fos: Rust (oh how I want to force a vial down your throat right now ^_^)
Lol can't sleep :p
If the lie detector breaks down because of that statement can we begin to use the detector to make the game more like a traditional mafia game. ie: we vote for someone to say "I did not perform an action on X" where X would be one of our dead. Basically giving us the same info a lynch would but without killing anyone
If the lie detector doesn't break, then it'll probably work with the letter statement.
If the lie detector breaks down because of that statement can we begin to use the detector to make the game more like a traditional mafia game. ie: we vote for someone to say "I did not perform an action on X" where X would be one of our dead. Basically giving us the same info a lynch would but without killing anyone
If the lie detector doesn't break, then it'll probably work with the letter statement.
Let's force it down anyway and observe it's effects.Haneii wrote:
Fos: Rust (oh how I want to force a vial down your throat right now ^_^)
Hi rust.
On a serious note: That method would probably be way too slow (single person statements), unless we get lucky.
It would work since we are only getting a single death per day. After eliminating some branches of possibility, I think it could be a good method.
Topic Starter
Processing....bmin11 wrote:
Someone other than rust45 targeted Index-San on Night 1
Processing....
True
With that question answered, the detector powers off. It seems it needs to recharge.
bmin targeted Index!
oh right...lie detector doesn't work that way. Insane lie detector!
Okay, I don't see how this information helps us now - more than one person targeted Index but we don't know who's action actually killed him.
Now what?
oh right...lie detector doesn't work that way. Insane lie detector!
Okay, I don't see how this information helps us now - more than one person targeted Index but we don't know who's action actually killed him.
Now what?
It shows my most likely innocence as it shows the PM I got from the mod was likely from targeting Index.
Well I think that clears rust45.
So who's our liar then?
In order of suspicion I think -
akrolsmir - How to say, he was holding back on his targeting claims
animask - "didn't do anything", ok sure >.>
Haneii - Only because of Q, not the biggest feeling here.
All gut though.
So who's our liar then?
In order of suspicion I think -
akrolsmir - How to say, he was holding back on his targeting claims
animask - "didn't do anything", ok sure >.>
Haneii - Only because of Q, not the biggest feeling here.
All gut though.
I agree with akro and Haneii, but not really with animask. I targeted him night one simply because I expected to be insane anyways (8:9 chance). He also winds up being the most suspicious person in every other mafia game so I figured why not? While him not using his night action at all does seem kind of stupid, that seems like typical animask to me.Rantai wrote:
Well I think that clears rust45.
So who's our liar then?
In order of suspicion I think -
akrolsmir - How to say, he was holding back on his targeting claims
animask - "didn't do anything", ok sure >.>
Haneii - Only because of Q, not the biggest feeling here.
All gut though.