Let's just say that either one of you two in my opinion is the person who's making all the other people disappear. To be honest, I have more suspicion on you but something tells me I shouldn't really rush my votes.
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That didn't answer my question...Lilac wrote:
Let's just say that either one of you two in my opinion is the person who's making all the other people disappear. To be honest, I have more suspicion on you but something tells me I shouldn't really rush my votes.
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That was the point.
Curious, why would I fear LS?Lilac wrote:
... but Rantai would be the only person who would fear LS.
Lilac wrote:
Actually...
Unvote. HoS: adam and Rantai. I see what you did there.
Post while I type more, gees. It's clear we're not getting a straight answer.
The problem I have with this is that it just feels like a cop out, relying on "what they said" mentality. I will admit that the lynching has been very accurate so your bandwagons aren't hurting town. But under typical circumstances, you'd be worsening a potential mislynch.Quaraezha wrote:
Reason for bandwagon Day 1:
I wanted to contribute votes for a lynch to happen.
And I wanted to see someone get lynched (and by someone, I mean anti-town)
Since you people have good reasons for voting, I might as well join in.
As for Kiddo-Kun, somehow I doubt you would have voted if LS hadn't. You even said yourself, you have problems accusing people.
Overall I'm getting the feeling you aren't town. (Leaving neutral or mafia)
Ugh and good night, I have been up for a solid 28 hours now...
Topic Starter
This has been fixed and I have realized another mistake now.adam2046 wrote:
mod: Kiddo-kun is still in the alive list.
With 7 present, it takes 4 to lynch.
prod animask or something idk
Vote: adam
On a side note: Even though Lilac is acting like a retard, I don't think he is scum.
On a side note: Even though Lilac is acting like a retard, I don't think he is scum.
Why not?foulcoon wrote:
Vote: adam
On a side note: Even though Lilac is acting like a retard, I don't think he is scum.
He was on the lynch bandwagon for both mafia members that we lynched. You on the other hand, were not. In fact you've never been on any lynching bandwagon. Normally I'd commend you for that but it honestly just seems like you're playing it safe. I'm willing to bet you're the Serial Killer, if not just plain Mafia.
There wasn't enough to convince me that I should vote for either of them. I felt suspicious of them and wasn't against them being lynched, but I probably would have ended up voting them the day after had they not been lynched/nightkilled.foulcoon wrote:
He was on the lynch bandwagon for both mafia members that we lynched. You on the other hand, were not. In fact you've never been on any lynching bandwagon. Normally I'd commend you for that but it honestly just seems like you're playing it safe. I'm willing to bet you're the Serial Killer, if not just plain Mafia.
Also I hope you're not convincing yourself that people who vote for mafia can't be mafia.
/resign
I don't really want to read all these posts... 2 simultaneous games is enough.
I don't really want to read all these posts... 2 simultaneous games is enough.
Topic Starter
Looking for a replacement for animask.
Topic Starter
0_o replaces animask
I should really start following games that I'm a backup for >_>
Hopefully I'll get through everything in the next 24 hours or so.
Hopefully I'll get through everything in the next 24 hours or so.
Welcome, 0_o.
Vote: 0_o
Talk, 0_o.
Talk, 0_o.
Sorry, busy day today. I'll try and plow through the thread now.
EDIT 18 hours later: on page 15, getting there...
EDIT 18 hours later: on page 15, getting there...
Could I request a day or two extension to get myself caught up? I'll be busy for the rest of tonight and that won't leave me a lot of time til the deadline...
Topic Starter
The deadline has been extended one day.
Nobody is really posting. I know I'm part of that problem but work + the holiday weekend distracted me.
Prod: everyone who hasn't posted in 48 hours.
Prod: everyone who hasn't posted in 48 hours.
That's like...everyone but 3 people.
How about a Q&A or something
There isn't anything going on or to work with...
I want to see what 0_o has to say at this point.
I want to see what 0_o has to say at this point.
Unvote, Vote: adam. You're either the serial killer or the mafia. Either way, it's win win for town.
Wow, anyone who can't see what you just did must be incompetent.Lilac wrote:
Unvote, Vote: adam. You're either the serial killer or the mafia. Either way, it's win win for town.
I have to be mafia or serial killer? All your massive amounts of evidence against me is making my head hurt. Next I'll have to be mafia and we'll have to lynch me or we will definitely lose guys!
Make statements like that after you can actually back them up, you've pulled basically nothing on me other than one thing I said which you claim was just to make me look like town (i.e. I was being town). If it were possible to vote you twice, I totally would.
I'm still waiting for 0_o to get up to date before we seriously continue.
I'm actually surprised about how badly you took that...
Now I'm definitely keeping my vote there.
Now I'm definitely keeping my vote there.
Also, I don't have anything to prove that you're are Mafia, no.
But since I guessed that the people are left are possibly town, it would be safe to lynch you.
Yeah, I also want to hear from 0_o. What a fag.
But since I guessed that the people are left are possibly town, it would be safe to lynch you.
Yeah, I also want to hear from 0_o. What a fag.
What's with you people and wanting to hear from faceman
We should wonder as to why animask wanted to resign
We only know that he just didn't want to read posts
We should wonder as to why animask wanted to resign
We only know that he just didn't want to read posts
And just when I was about to say "Scratch that, I want to hear from Qua."
Qua, that's the point when we start talking to 0_o.
Qua, that's the point when we start talking to 0_o.
I just want everyone to be on the same page.
You're surprised by me getting angry at you trying to get me lynched with a bunch of crap with no logic behind it?Lilac wrote:
I'm actually surprised about how badly you took that...
Now I'm definitely keeping my vote there.
Really?
I don't have anything else to say. My vote is still on animask (faceman now) for now unless he has something to say.
-Defending Wojjan D1
-Playing especially cautiously
-Having no suspect leads D2 when Kiddo was very obviously scummy and then tries to sidetrack the conversation by asking whom everyone thinks is most suspicious when it's obvious that people believe it to be Kiddo to be since he has a lot of votes on him
-Defending Wojjan D1
-Playing especially cautiously
-Having no suspect leads D2 when Kiddo was very obviously scummy and then tries to sidetrack the conversation by asking whom everyone thinks is most suspicious when it's obvious that people believe it to be Kiddo to be since he has a lot of votes on him
Erg, I still haven't caught up and I'm gonna be gone for the rest of the day.
If you'd rather not put up with waiting for me I'm a vanilla townie so it wouldn't be a HUGE deal if I were lynched, but I promise I'll make catching up a priority when I get back.
If you'd rather not put up with waiting for me I'm a vanilla townie so it wouldn't be a HUGE deal if I were lynched, but I promise I'll make catching up a priority when I get back.
Topic Starter
Vote Count:
adam2046 (3) - Rantai foulcoon Lilac
0_o (1) - Lybydose
Lilac (1) - adam2046
Not Voting (2) - 0_o Quaraezha
adam 2046 is at L-1!
adam2046 (3) - Rantai foulcoon Lilac
0_o (1) - Lybydose
Lilac (1) - adam2046
Not Voting (2) - 0_o Quaraezha
adam 2046 is at L-1!
If you're actually a vanilla townie it would be a pretty big deal if you were lynched, actually. I am sort of uneasy about the only post of substance being made by faceman/animask being a role-claim vanilla town, though.0_o wrote:
Erg, I still haven't caught up and I'm gonna be gone for the rest of the day.
If you'd rather not put up with waiting for me I'm a vanilla townie so it wouldn't be a HUGE deal if I were lynched, but I promise I'll make catching up a priority when I get back.
I've already told you my logic. It's simply process of elimination. In fact, SK did a wonderful job eliminating all the suspicious players except you... and animask.adam2046 wrote:
You're surprised by me getting angry at you trying to get me lynched with a bunch of crap with no logic behind it?Lilac wrote:
I'm actually surprised about how badly you took that...
Now I'm definitely keeping my vote there.
Really?
We can lynch him next day.
why would the SK want to eliminate suspicious players?
Bragging again.Lilac wrote:
I've already told you my logic. It's simply process of elimination. In fact, SK did a wonderful job eliminating all the suspicious players except you... and animask.
We can lynch him next day.
Also suddenly animask is on your list?
Hrm straight off role claim?0_o wrote:
Erg, I still haven't caught up and I'm gonna be gone for the rest of the day.
If you'd rather not put up with waiting for me I'm a vanilla townie so it wouldn't be a HUGE deal if I were lynched, but I promise I'll make catching up a priority when I get back.
We've less than 1 day left (if I got this right). I'm starting to think you've got nothing to say...
I think Lilac was thanking the SK for doing so, even if it wasn't intentional. At least that's how I read it.Lybydose wrote:
why would the SK want to eliminate suspicious players?
animask was ALWAYS on my list.
Goddamnit, are you reading anything?
Goddamnit, are you reading anything?
Yes, I am, and he wasn't.Lilac wrote:
animask was ALWAYS on my list.
Goddamnit, are you reading anything?
I went through the whole thread and you say basically nothing of importance about animask other than "ooooh he's acting differently".
I think you should try reading.Lilac wrote:
2. animask - You're different. You're trying to sound more serious and that's what ticks me off. I liked the old animask...but I'm sorry it just seems odd. I mean, a more serious animask! Wow, a lot of people have changed.
Doesn't change the fact that I still put him under the possible Mafia list..
...Come on, you can do better than this. Are you that desperate?
...Come on, you can do better than this. Are you that desperate?
Also, Doc pretty much summed it up before. He voted for me and still kept with it while he did nothing of importance on D2. What, do you want me to change a vote from you to him?
And now you're just going to pretend what you just said never happened. Lovely.Lilac wrote:
Doesn't change the fact that I still put him under the possible Mafia list..
...Come on, you can do better than this. Are you that desperate?
Say something in an attempt to make me look suspicious. Realize that I'm right. Hope people focus on something else by pretending I'm trying to nitpick.
So he's suspicious for voting you when you were acting most suspicious?Lilac wrote:
Also, Doc pretty much summed it up before. He voted for me and still kept with it while he did nothing of importance on D2. What, do you want me to change a vote from you to him?
Also you're one to talk about doing nothing of importance mister "I didn't want to post day 1".
I find it confusing why I'm the one at L-1 and nobody is questioning Lilac...
Oh, when I meant 'he' I meant 'you'.
Wow, this is going absolutely nowhere... You aren't helping yourself nor are you helping town.
If you're smart, you would defend yourself instead of accusing others...unless you really are SK which does make that quite hard.
Wow, this is going absolutely nowhere... You aren't helping yourself nor are you helping town.
If you're smart, you would defend yourself instead of accusing others...unless you really are SK which does make that quite hard.
Wait no, crap...
I did mean animask... Wow, I am really out of it....
My point still stands though. Accusing me will only just hurt you.
I did mean animask... Wow, I am really out of it....
My point still stands though. Accusing me will only just hurt you.
Nothing you just said makes any sense.
Like, at all.
Let's get specific.
I do not have a role that can confirmed with information and the only way to confirm it is if we had some sort of cop role.
And now I can't even be mafia and am the serial killer?
And now I just realized something.
Foulcoon
I wont deny being overly cautious this game, because that was how I felt like playing this game, I didn't want to bandwagon because I spent a lot of time wondering if the mafia were in it and didn't feel suspicious enough of either bandwagon to warrant a vote.
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And then another post appeared while I was writing:
In what way?
Like, at all.
Let's get specific.
Lilac wrote:
Oh, when I meant 'he' I meant 'you'.
I'm just going to assume you meant the second he. And sure, change your vote if it ends up with you getting lynched.Lilac wrote:
Also, Doc pretty much summed it up before. You voted for me and still kept with it while you did nothing of importance on D2. What, do you want me to change a vote from you to him?
What do you classify as helping myself and helping town? Getting the mafia and missing persons guy lynched is helping town, I think you are one of them, therefore I am trying to get you lynched. This is entire time all you've been trying to do is paint me as a desperate scum player clawing to get you lynched because you're soooooooooooo innocent.Lilac wrote:
Wow, this is going absolutely nowhere... You aren't helping yourself nor are you helping town.
I cannot defend myself because you have literally no bloody argument against me, all you have been spewing out is a bunch of nothing while stating that I am scum. Even foulcoon has some logic behind his vote.Lilac wrote:
If you're smart, you would defend yourself instead of accusing others...unless you really are SK which does make that quite hard.
I do not have a role that can confirmed with information and the only way to confirm it is if we had some sort of cop role.
And now I can't even be mafia and am the serial killer?
And now I just realized something.
Foulcoon
You say you doubt he's scum because he helped lynch mafia members, but a serial killer wouldn't really have any qualms about killing anyone. Also a mafia member is able to take suspicion off themselves by voting their team mates (whether via a plan or to blend in with the town effectively).foulcoon wrote:
He was on the lynch bandwagon for both mafia members that we lynched. You on the other hand, were not. In fact you've never been on any lynching bandwagon. Normally I'd commend you for that but it honestly just seems like you're playing it safe. I'm willing to bet you're the Serial Killer, if not just plain Mafia.
I wont deny being overly cautious this game, because that was how I felt like playing this game, I didn't want to bandwagon because I spent a lot of time wondering if the mafia were in it and didn't feel suspicious enough of either bandwagon to warrant a vote.
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And then another post appeared while I was writing:
The hell?Lilac wrote:
Accusing me will only just hurt you.
In what way?
Topic Starter
Final Vote Count:
adam2046 (3) - Rantai foulcoon Lilac
0_o (1) - Lybydose
Lilac (1) - adam2046
Not Voting (2) - 0_o Quaraezha
The day was once again rather queit and it seemed that the players were focusing on one player. But the viewers started to fell different about the player in question as he kept defending himself. Some thought he was guilty, while others thought he was innocent and thought he did a good job trying to defend himself. But despite what the audience thought, the players had decided. The announcer spoke, "The players have decided on who to send home. He tried to get out of it but adam will be on the next boat off of the island. His role will be revealed shortly."
The two men once again came and grabbed adam. They asked, "You want this guy to go away?" Three players confirmed with silent nods. The men took adam to the center of the island where there was a hole in the ground. One of the men placed him in front of the hole and the other man lifted his leg and with a mighty kick sent adam into the hole, never to be seen again. The announcer spoke to the players, "Sadly you have made your first mistake. Adam was innocent and had nothing to do with anything. He simply was just trying to live as a simple townie. Now, you should all head to your rooms and think about what happened."
adam2046 - Townie Lynched D3
It is now night 3, please send all night actions within 48 hours.
adam2046 (3) - Rantai foulcoon Lilac
0_o (1) - Lybydose
Lilac (1) - adam2046
Not Voting (2) - 0_o Quaraezha
The day was once again rather queit and it seemed that the players were focusing on one player. But the viewers started to fell different about the player in question as he kept defending himself. Some thought he was guilty, while others thought he was innocent and thought he did a good job trying to defend himself. But despite what the audience thought, the players had decided. The announcer spoke, "The players have decided on who to send home. He tried to get out of it but adam will be on the next boat off of the island. His role will be revealed shortly."
The two men once again came and grabbed adam. They asked, "You want this guy to go away?" Three players confirmed with silent nods. The men took adam to the center of the island where there was a hole in the ground. One of the men placed him in front of the hole and the other man lifted his leg and with a mighty kick sent adam into the hole, never to be seen again. The announcer spoke to the players, "Sadly you have made your first mistake. Adam was innocent and had nothing to do with anything. He simply was just trying to live as a simple townie. Now, you should all head to your rooms and think about what happened."
adam2046 - Townie Lynched D3
It is now night 3, please send all night actions within 48 hours.
Topic Starter
Ugh, I've just been out of it for hosting this since school started. I'm sorry for not being as attentive but school is getting in my way and making me forget about this.
Everyone awoke and the announcer spoke to them, "Please report to the center of the island for role call today." Everyone complied and headed to the hole that adam had been thrown into the previous evening. What was found was not pretty, a dead Lybydose was in front of everyone, with two bullet holes in his chest. A note was in the cold hand. It read, "I'm tired of waiting to see if you return, I'm just going to end it all now!" The announcer then spoke, "It seems someone beat Lybydose to the punch, either way, he's dead now. Hm, I just noticed that there should be five of you, but only four of you are here, it appears Lilac is missing."
Lybdose - Weak Lover (Killed N3)
Lilac (Missing N3)
It is now day 4, deadline is in five days.
With 4 present, it takes 3 to lynch.
Everyone awoke and the announcer spoke to them, "Please report to the center of the island for role call today." Everyone complied and headed to the hole that adam had been thrown into the previous evening. What was found was not pretty, a dead Lybydose was in front of everyone, with two bullet holes in his chest. A note was in the cold hand. It read, "I'm tired of waiting to see if you return, I'm just going to end it all now!" The announcer then spoke, "It seems someone beat Lybydose to the punch, either way, he's dead now. Hm, I just noticed that there should be five of you, but only four of you are here, it appears Lilac is missing."
Lybdose - Weak Lover (Killed N3)
Lilac (Missing N3)
It is now day 4, deadline is in five days.
With 4 present, it takes 3 to lynch.
Okay, there are now 4 of us remaining.
I'm assuming that 1 of us is Mafia and another is probably Anti-town (the guy who's hiding people)
I'm just wondering if Mafia wins if a town is lynched today?
Because currently, there are 3 missing people, assuming that they are all town.
Mafia wins when they control half the votes.
So basically, if we lynch town today, mafia wins.
*If we lynch anti-town, we can probably recover the missing people and have 4 town and 1 mafia (after nightkill)
Not sure what happens if we lynch Mafia
These are assuming that there's an anti-town that kidnaps people.
I'm assuming that 1 of us is Mafia and another is probably Anti-town (the guy who's hiding people)
I'm just wondering if Mafia wins if a town is lynched today?
Because currently, there are 3 missing people, assuming that they are all town.
Mafia wins when they control half the votes.
So basically, if we lynch town today, mafia wins.
*If we lynch anti-town, we can probably recover the missing people and have 4 town and 1 mafia (after nightkill)
Not sure what happens if we lynch Mafia
These are assuming that there's an anti-town that kidnaps people.
If a town is lynched and we assume both the mafia and kidnapper guy is alive... that leaves us with 3.
So any of these could happen:
Town wins because both the kidnapper and mafia targeted each other.
Mafia wins because the kidnapper and the townie get killed/kidnapped respectively.
Kidnapper and mafia win because they both target the townie.
However you bring up a good point about people coming back. Assuming it works that way the only way town would lose on a mislynch is via the 3rd scenario. But I have no idea how the kidnapper works, I'm going to assume the worst and guess that they don't come back.
I'm at a loss on how to approach this, the only lead I have is my suspicion of Q.
So any of these could happen:
Town wins because both the kidnapper and mafia targeted each other.
Mafia wins because the kidnapper and the townie get killed/kidnapped respectively.
Kidnapper and mafia win because they both target the townie.
However you bring up a good point about people coming back. Assuming it works that way the only way town would lose on a mislynch is via the 3rd scenario. But I have no idea how the kidnapper works, I'm going to assume the worst and guess that they don't come back.
I'm at a loss on how to approach this, the only lead I have is my suspicion of Q.
I want to hear from faceman and foulcoon, they seem to be too quiet.
LOL what a hypocrite. Sorry for sleeping sir.Quaraezha wrote:
I want to hear from faceman and foulcoon, they seem to be too quiet.
I have to go to school so I'll post later.
foulcoon wrote:
Sorry for sleeping sir.
I have to go to school so I'll post later.
aaaaand class ended super early because it was the first day.
So OK, I dunno about you guys but I've been considering the "kidnapper" to be a serial killer/janitor. If this is the case, then, as crazy as this might sound, the only way for the town to win is if neither the mafia nor SK is lynched today. Here are the scenarios:
1. Mafia is lynched
N4: 2 townies + 1 SK
D5: 1 townie + 1 SK
SK win = 100%
2. SK is lynched
N4: 2 townies + 1 mafia
D5: 1 townie + 1 mafia
Mafia win = 100%
3. Townie is lynched
N4: 1 townie + 1 mafia + 1 SK
Assuming random kills, the possible outcomes are as follows:
SK kills townie, mafia kills townie - mafia + SK win
SK kills townie, mafia kills SK - mafia win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills townie - SK win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills SK - town win
Town win = 25%
4. No lynch
N4: 2 townies + 1 mafia + 1 SK
SK kills townie A, mafia kills townie A | D5 = 1 townie, 1 SK, 1 mafia
SK kills townie A, mafia kills townie B | mafia + SK win
SK kills townie A, mafia kills SK | mafia win
SK kills townie B, mafia kills townie A | mafia + SK win
SK kills townie B, mafia kills townie B | D5 = 1 townie, 1 SK, 1 mafia
SK kills townie B, mafia kills SK | mafia win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills townie A | SK win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills townie B | SK win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills SK | town win
Town win = 11% (not counting the the D5 scenarios)
For the D5 situations:
Townie lynch = SK + mafia win
Mafia lynch = SK win
SK lynch = mafia win
No lynch = (see scenario 3.)
So it seems to me that the best chance the town has of winning is if a townie is lynched today. I'll volunteer to be the lynchee if you guys are ok with this.
So OK, I dunno about you guys but I've been considering the "kidnapper" to be a serial killer/janitor. If this is the case, then, as crazy as this might sound, the only way for the town to win is if neither the mafia nor SK is lynched today. Here are the scenarios:
1. Mafia is lynched
N4: 2 townies + 1 SK
D5: 1 townie + 1 SK
SK win = 100%
2. SK is lynched
N4: 2 townies + 1 mafia
D5: 1 townie + 1 mafia
Mafia win = 100%
3. Townie is lynched
N4: 1 townie + 1 mafia + 1 SK
Assuming random kills, the possible outcomes are as follows:
SK kills townie, mafia kills townie - mafia + SK win
SK kills townie, mafia kills SK - mafia win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills townie - SK win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills SK - town win
Town win = 25%
4. No lynch
N4: 2 townies + 1 mafia + 1 SK
SK kills townie A, mafia kills townie A | D5 = 1 townie, 1 SK, 1 mafia
SK kills townie A, mafia kills townie B | mafia + SK win
SK kills townie A, mafia kills SK | mafia win
SK kills townie B, mafia kills townie A | mafia + SK win
SK kills townie B, mafia kills townie B | D5 = 1 townie, 1 SK, 1 mafia
SK kills townie B, mafia kills SK | mafia win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills townie A | SK win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills townie B | SK win
SK kills mafia, mafia kills SK | town win
Town win = 11% (not counting the the D5 scenarios)
For the D5 situations:
Townie lynch = SK + mafia win
Mafia lynch = SK win
SK lynch = mafia win
No lynch = (see scenario 3.)
So it seems to me that the best chance the town has of winning is if a townie is lynched today. I'll volunteer to be the lynchee if you guys are ok with this.
Hmm... I just realized there's also the possibility that Lilac was scum and we only have 3 townies + SK.. in this case a no lynch would be our best scenario as we have better odds with 2 townies + SK...
What do you guys think?
What do you guys think?
Actually, based on voting patterns D1, particularly being attacked by both Wojjan and Kiddo, I am leaning towards Lilac being pro-town. Thus I still support my initial idea.
Oh wow, I didn't realise the situation was that bad...
What if Lilac was the mafia member?
A town lynch would shoot town in the foot. A no lynch would be better, but we have no way to tell.
Though it does give the best chance if the mafia wasn't killed.
Rargh the possibilities.
What if Lilac was the mafia member?
A town lynch would shoot town in the foot. A no lynch would be better, but we have no way to tell.
Though it does give the best chance if the mafia wasn't killed.
Rargh the possibilities.
You ninja, got there before me.
Triple post.0_o wrote:
Actually, based on voting patterns D1, particularly being attacked by both Wojjan and Kiddo, I am leaning towards Lilac being pro-town. Thus I still support my initial idea.
Then again Kiddo was attacked by Lilac and Wojjan D1 too, so I think that's not much to work on.
But that's assuming that the anti-town permanently kills people.
At this situation, they're just hiding.
But then again, they might as well be dead if the anti-town is still alive.
At this situation, they're just hiding.
But then again, they might as well be dead if the anti-town is still alive.
If they do come back then a no lynch is best for sure because if it's wrong town still has a chance opposed to a correct lynch with the wrong assumption.
Starting to lean no lynch... do we have any other ideas?
Starting to lean no lynch... do we have any other ideas?
But then again, what if the Mafia is the one hiding people?
It's essentially the same situation isn't it?
Both anti-town, one is killing, one is hiding.
---- Be back in the morning.
Both anti-town, one is killing, one is hiding.
---- Be back in the morning.
It's been 3 days since the first missing person; I'm pretty sure it's safe to say they aren't coming back.
Sorry I haven't posted, didn't have wifi available until now.
I'm inclined to believe facemans claim. I think a no lynch is a bad idea though. I also really don't feel comfortable lynching faceman in a 25% chance to win siutation.
Honest opinion? The mafia is probably Q as he bandwagoned and was lurking the whole game. He didn't get active in dicussion until both other mafia members were lynched.
I'm inclined to believe facemans claim. I think a no lynch is a bad idea though. I also really don't feel comfortable lynching faceman in a 25% chance to win siutation.
Honest opinion? The mafia is probably Q as he bandwagoned and was lurking the whole game. He didn't get active in dicussion until both other mafia members were lynched.
On the other hand, I think he voted for both mafia lynches (on my phone and too lazy to check) so he's either a really smart mafia and asshole teammate, or a pro-town role.
Triple posttttt
I have like 5 hours til next class so expect me to check this frequently, but I'm going to eat now~
I have like 5 hours til next class so expect me to check this frequently, but I'm going to eat now~
Here's the thing though, the only person we should be deciding if they are mafia or not is Lilac:
If he was the final scum, then a no-lynch is the town's best shot.
If he was pro-town, then our best bet is to lynch me.
I'm gonna go reread Lilac's posts to get a better read on him...
If he was the final scum, then a no-lynch is the town's best shot.
If he was pro-town, then our best bet is to lynch me.
I'm gonna go reread Lilac's posts to get a better read on him...
Alright yeah, unless the mafia agreed to sacrifice eachother before the game started I really don't think Lilac is scum; there was just too much conflict with Wojjan and Kiddo.
While it's true that Wojjan attacked Kiddo once at the beginning of the game, he brushed it off shortly afterwards saying it was to get a reaction.
And yeah they could have been distancing, but at the beginning of Day 2 when the mafia was already down a member AND there was a potential serial killer, Lilac went straight for Kiddo. I don't know about you, but if I were mafia in that situation I would have tried to dig my partner out of that hole at least little bit.
While it's true that Wojjan attacked Kiddo once at the beginning of the game, he brushed it off shortly afterwards saying it was to get a reaction.
And yeah they could have been distancing, but at the beginning of Day 2 when the mafia was already down a member AND there was a potential serial killer, Lilac went straight for Kiddo. I don't know about you, but if I were mafia in that situation I would have tried to dig my partner out of that hole at least little bit.
The more I think about it, the more I believe that Rantai is the most likely candidate to be mafia.
Roleclaim: 1 shot Jailkeeper
I've used it already though, on foulcoon night 2. Why you ask? Because I was paranoid I wouldn't get to use it (considering I was away at manifest for most of that day, I could've been an easy NK) and I had a gut feeling that someone would attack foulcoon to make LS look bad (at the time I believed both were town).
Incidentally no one was shot that night. But that could have been from LS blocking the kill too (assuming that doctor role was not bogus).
I guess it's up to you to believe me or not, but that's all I've got. If you do, I'll follow the no lynch, if not I'll follow the 0_o lynch.
Just for note: I still think Lilac was the last mafia (my biggest gripe still being the statements he gave 1st day). Giving him the benefit of the doubt beforehand was a mistake on my part.
I've used it already though, on foulcoon night 2. Why you ask? Because I was paranoid I wouldn't get to use it (considering I was away at manifest for most of that day, I could've been an easy NK) and I had a gut feeling that someone would attack foulcoon to make LS look bad (at the time I believed both were town).
Incidentally no one was shot that night. But that could have been from LS blocking the kill too (assuming that doctor role was not bogus).
I guess it's up to you to believe me or not, but that's all I've got. If you do, I'll follow the no lynch, if not I'll follow the 0_o lynch.
Just for note: I still think Lilac was the last mafia (my biggest gripe still being the statements he gave 1st day). Giving him the benefit of the doubt beforehand was a mistake on my part.
I was thinking that what if the last mafia was already hidden
and then I realized that if that were the case, it would be Lilac since only Mafia can Nightkill and one was NK'd last night.
So yeah, if Lilac was the last Mafia member that makes it 3 town vs 1 anti-town.
If we're gonna lynch faceman, assuming that he is town, will lead to a 1 town vs 1 anti-town, so town loses.
But then again, there's still a possibility that the last mafia is still among us.
Also, what's a Sheriff/Weak Lover/Jailkeeper?
and then I realized that if that were the case, it would be Lilac since only Mafia can Nightkill and one was NK'd last night.
So yeah, if Lilac was the last Mafia member that makes it 3 town vs 1 anti-town.
If we're gonna lynch faceman, assuming that he is town, will lead to a 1 town vs 1 anti-town, so town loses.
But then again, there's still a possibility that the last mafia is still among us.
Also, what's a Sheriff/Weak Lover/Jailkeeper?
I asked about Sheriff, I was told it's basically a renamed cop.
Weak lover? I honestly have no idea. I am guessing a normal lover that doesn't die if their partner dies? But if they died the other lover dies.
Jailkeeper is a doctor and roleblocker in the same action. (ie they will protect and roleblock the same target)
Weak lover? I honestly have no idea. I am guessing a normal lover that doesn't die if their partner dies? But if they died the other lover dies.
Jailkeeper is a doctor and roleblocker in the same action. (ie they will protect and roleblock the same target)
So wait, then shouldn't there be another Lover?
If there is, he/she is probably hidden. I dunno.
If there is, he/she is probably hidden. I dunno.
My guess is hidden (assuming my definition is right)
Ie weak lover didn't die when his lover was kidnapped.
Ie weak lover didn't die when his lover was kidnapped.
Well according the the wiki, the Weak modifier makes it so the player dies if they target a mafia role. This doesn't really make sense for a lover though, as no selections or night actions are usually involved...
But remember what the story said:
But remember what the story said:
"I'm tired of waiting to see if you return, I'm just going to end it all now!"To me it seems like his lover went "missing." It's possible that going missing doesn't trigger the lover suicide, but it's also possible that Lilac was his lover.
Can a Mafia Goon be a Lover at the same time?
It is a possibility.
It is a possibility.
Yeah a goon can be a lover. I think in another game, Two was a lover and naptime died with him (Mafia/town respectively)
I was not roleblocked on night 2.Rantai wrote:
Roleclaim: 1 shot Jailkeeper
I've used it already though, on foulcoon night 2. Why you ask? Because I was paranoid I wouldn't get to use it (considering I was away at manifest for most of that day, I could've been an easy NK) and I had a gut feeling that someone would attack foulcoon to make LS look bad (at the time I believed both were town).
HoS: Rantai
>:D
And I think I just figured out who our SK is. Damn I could've sworn it was Q but apparently not.
And I think I just figured out who our SK is. Damn I could've sworn it was Q but apparently not.
aaand I'm confused.
I take it from the ">:D" that you were lying about the jailkeeper thing, right?
I take it from the ">:D" that you were lying about the jailkeeper thing, right?
Yeah, I don't actually have anything special 
Time to stir the pot 
Truth is I -- AM -- the "SK" you guys are referring to (aka kidnapper).
Roleclaim: Contract Killer
My role basically states that I have to eliminate 3 people by games end. These 3 people were Wojjan, akrolsmir, and LadySuburu. When I kill someone, I hide their body and learn their role.
Before you vote me or tell me I'm stupid hear me out here. Since I had already eliminated all my targets by day 3, I asked the mod a question. I asked if I only win as last man standing, or if I could win with town or mafia. The mod responded that I was able to win after my 3 targets were dead, and any other faction got their win condition.
Truth is, I'm really hoping to win with town as mafia was already down 2 members at this point, and I was positive that there's only 1 mafia member left.
akrolsmir was a Strong Lover (I actually thought he was lovers with Two and that's how he died on Night 1)
LadySuburu was the Doctor (but we all pretty much knew that)
Lilac was a townie. I actually greatly regret killing him. I just didn't like the way that he was talking, and it just made him seem suspicious. I sent it with about an hour left in the night so it was rushed and I didn't check the voting history. Had I checked this, I would have killed Rantai, but I'm actually not so sure hes mafia either anymore.
This reason I'm telling you guys this is to keep you from lynching 0_o if we truly believe he is town. I am having second thoughts though, as Lilac is confirmed townie (to me at least) and I'm not so sure there would be 2 regular townies in a 12 person game with 4 anti-town players. A no lynch also seems like a very bad idea to me. Another reason I posted this was to discount any possibly theories you guys had about the missing players coming back from hiding. I can assure you they are dead.
I guess the other reason I'm posting this is to guarantee myself immunity. I think you'll find it hard for me to bullshit this, and you guys all know that if you lynch me today that town will ultimately lose (next day will be 1 mafia 1 town).
NOW - I would really like to hear Rantai's roleclaim. If Rantai claims townie then I'm going to find it really hard to believe that there were 3 vanilla townies in a 12 person game...
Truth is I -- AM -- the "SK" you guys are referring to (aka kidnapper).
Roleclaim: Contract Killer
My role basically states that I have to eliminate 3 people by games end. These 3 people were Wojjan, akrolsmir, and LadySuburu. When I kill someone, I hide their body and learn their role.
Before you vote me or tell me I'm stupid hear me out here. Since I had already eliminated all my targets by day 3, I asked the mod a question. I asked if I only win as last man standing, or if I could win with town or mafia. The mod responded that I was able to win after my 3 targets were dead, and any other faction got their win condition.
Truth is, I'm really hoping to win with town as mafia was already down 2 members at this point, and I was positive that there's only 1 mafia member left.
akrolsmir was a Strong Lover (I actually thought he was lovers with Two and that's how he died on Night 1)
LadySuburu was the Doctor (but we all pretty much knew that)
Lilac was a townie. I actually greatly regret killing him. I just didn't like the way that he was talking, and it just made him seem suspicious. I sent it with about an hour left in the night so it was rushed and I didn't check the voting history. Had I checked this, I would have killed Rantai, but I'm actually not so sure hes mafia either anymore.
This reason I'm telling you guys this is to keep you from lynching 0_o if we truly believe he is town. I am having second thoughts though, as Lilac is confirmed townie (to me at least) and I'm not so sure there would be 2 regular townies in a 12 person game with 4 anti-town players. A no lynch also seems like a very bad idea to me. Another reason I posted this was to discount any possibly theories you guys had about the missing players coming back from hiding. I can assure you they are dead.
I guess the other reason I'm posting this is to guarantee myself immunity. I think you'll find it hard for me to bullshit this, and you guys all know that if you lynch me today that town will ultimately lose (next day will be 1 mafia 1 town).
NOW - I would really like to hear Rantai's roleclaim. If Rantai claims townie then I'm going to find it really hard to believe that there were 3 vanilla townies in a 12 person game...
So if we lynch Mafia today, will you hide/kill somebody tonight?
Or does the game end and town (plus you) wins?
Or does the game end and town (plus you) wins?
If we lynch mafia today, then (according to him) it's a town/killer win.Quaraezha wrote:
So if we lynch Mafia today, will you hide/kill somebody tonight?
Well I'm glad I was able to turn my nothing into a reveal. Sorry to disappoint but I'm just a vanilla.
That looks like either a legit roleclaim or a very elaborate lie. It all fits perfectly though... I'll believe it.
The part I don't believe though is you have won, because you didn't personally eliminate Wojjan. If I were to hazard a guess, you can only win as a regular serial killer and looking for the guaranteed self win.
That looks like either a legit roleclaim or a very elaborate lie. It all fits perfectly though... I'll believe it.
The part I don't believe though is you have won, because you didn't personally eliminate Wojjan. If I were to hazard a guess, you can only win as a regular serial killer and looking for the guaranteed self win.
Alright.
So basically, it's safe to assume that:
2 town, 1 killer and 1 mafia
Town wins if Mafia is lynched
Is there still a possibility that town can still win if Town is lynched today?
Also, now we I know that foulcoon is killer, faceman is most likely to be townie.
I know I'm townie so
Vote: Rantai
So basically, it's safe to assume that:
2 town, 1 killer and 1 mafia
Town wins if Mafia is lynched
Is there still a possibility that town can still win if Town is lynched today?
Also, now we I know that foulcoon is killer, faceman is most likely to be townie.
I know I'm townie so
Vote: Rantai
How suspicious.
Vote: Quaraezha
I'll also agree that 0_o is most probably town leaving just you left, I know what I am (read:above).
Vote: Quaraezha
I'll also agree that 0_o is most probably town leaving just you left, I know what I am (read:above).
Wow I guess hitting submit early is something I can't avoid.
*Nothing else to work on and at least if I was wrong about foulcoon this is the better option.
*Nothing else to work on and at least if I was wrong about foulcoon this is the better option.
I don't think I can ever be a smart mafia and lynch my teammates.foulcoon wrote:
On the other hand, I think Q voted for both mafia lynches (on my phone and too lazy to check) so he's either a really smart mafia and asshole teammate, or a pro-town role.
I'll be back in a few hours. Just incase you wanted me to say something later on.
Actually you know what, before I leave - wifom wifom wifom.
Honestly I have no idea what you're capable of.
Honestly I have no idea what you're capable of.
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The day has been extended by one day due to site being down.
Silly data center.
Rantai, could you explain how foulcoon's reaction to your jailkeeper claim made you think he was the SK? I still haven't been able to figure that out...
Everyone else claimed town and I said that I wasn't roleblocked. That means I admitted that I had a role with a night action, which would be a massive mafia slip-up. I assume that he thought I was the SK because no mafia member in their right mind would admit to that. I had no problem saying this because I have nothing to hide, and my role permits me to win with either town or mafia.
At the time I believed we had no aux roles left considering our cop and doctor was dead (lover was a surprise), that was going by the standard set ups I had seen before (I think it was like 2-3 aux roles and the rest vanilla). So I false claimed to see what foulcoon was going to say because I knew I was vanilla, I was certain you were vanilla leaving just Q or foulcoon left for the SK position (I thought Lilac was mafia). foulcoon confirmed him as the SK as he bluntly stated he wasn't role blocked making me think he wasn't lying, meaning he had to be the only active role left (SK).