Hello. i will link my profile at the bottom of this message for reference.
so i would like to hire a coach as right now im encountering some issues im honestly unsure how to fix now i know how bad of a rep coaching gets in this game but i must say some people learn differently and although this could be irrelavant i have autism and have always struggled with using youtube videos to learn things.
when i got coaching for overwatch i improved so much because things i couldnt see myself were pointed out.
what issues im having right now are:
when i hit stacked bursts i always seem to hit at least 1 100 every single time regardless of the bpm or AR
when i play jump maps i tend to actually overaim it when i thought i was underaiming it. but when i lowered my sens i could no longer even reach those jumps

I can do 3-5 star maps but maps that have more objects make me unable to process them versus i passed my first 5* DT map and it was very hard fast jumps but i played a lower diff map that had a bunch more objects and did terrible.
I cant figure out how to time streams or bursts for the life of me

when i play tourneys for my rank range (100k+ tourneys) i cant do most of those maps without NF and usually have under 100k scores for scoreV2.

i cant figure out how to play fully to the beat of the song and not just to hitsounds/instinct

and more issues but frick me this message is long enough :skull:

TLDR:
i want coaching and will pay just be 5 digit or higher rank and dont say the goofy "jUst plAY tHe gAME moRE"
that applies for some people but some people improve faster with an outside view

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Honestly coaching in this game is like getting taught about your grip, approaching patterns, playstyle, etc. Just learning more about the game's mechanical side, I guess.
So it doesn't really focus on your problems entirely, but rather what can you apply from the general information that you will receive.

Would I say you should get coaching for your own problems? No. The general community can help with most problems (maybe all, I don't know about that).
To learn? Sure, it's ok.

Coaching is mostly worthless. A game like overwatch requires much more thinking and strategy, so coaching is inherently more valuable. I frankly think hiring a coach wouldn't do anything more than asking a high ranked friend a few questions.

I also want to say that even if coaching was of significant help I wouldn't invest money yet with as little playtime as you.

Naiad wrote:

Coaching is mostly worthless. A game like overwatch requires much more thinking and strategy, so coaching is inherently more valuable. I frankly think hiring a coach wouldn't do anything more than asking a high ranked friend a few questions.

I also want to say that even if coaching was of significant help I wouldn't invest money yet with as little playtime as you.

thank you. i also posted this on reddit and got like 15 people saying similar stuff so im taking it all in

I'm going to go against the grain here and say that I personally think coaching can be pretty helpful, given that you have a coach who is actually knowledgeable/experienced and won't just go "you need to get better at bursts play some burst maps and really focus on accuracy". Instead if you can tell them your problems in depth and really get a good discussion going about you mechanics etc you'll probably be able to learn a lot, to the point where you can find out exact reasons for your problems and really effectively work on them.

That being said it definitely won't be as effective as coaching in games like Overwatch because osu is an extremely simple game, and imo most of the learning for how to play osu is just throwing yourself against a wall until you can do things, like you can't learn to read patterns from a tutorial, you will need to practice and build those brain connections yourself. However, a good coach will probably be able to iron out things that are slowing down this learning process and give you tips/strategies to speed it up.

It's also really easy in osu to I guess coach yourself, like if you were playing overwatch maybe it's not immediately obvious what your doing wrong, but in osu if you miss or drop accuracy you 100% know you did something wrong there, and you'll also get a ton of feedback from how your mechanics/brain feels as well, and because it's such a simple game you can generally figure lots of things out yourself. This another reason why osu coaching is less effective than coaching in other things.

As for if it's worth monetarily, that's entirely up to you, I personally wouldn't buy osu coaching though. And like as Naiad said you could probably achieve something similar if you had some high ranking friends to ask some questions, if they go beyond giving you the advice of "play more" and actually discuss stuff with you.

For mapping: yes, a mentor is definitely helpful when you start out

For playing: 多练 (just play more lol)

I think coaching can definitely help as (like you said), it's much easier to spot improvements with an outside perspective

HOWEVER, I don't think you should PAY for coaching (as at the level you're at at the moment, any sort of payment would essentially be a scam 💀). I say this as I'm sure many higher ranked players (doesn't have to be 3 digit - any 5 digit would suffice, or even a high ranked 6 digit) would be willing to offer you help for FREE.

Though if you are going to have someone help you learn, make sure it isn't just someone who farms, but someone who actually pays attention to skill sets and didn't just luck out by retry spamming.

Anyway, I hope you improve man - you don't have much play time so you've got plenty of potential. One thing that I do suggest though is looking at your replays. This is a really useful tool as you can easily analyse your aim, your tapping, and even listen to how you tap to the beat (along with more minor things like UR - though that isn't something to worry about just yet).

When you have established what you can improve based off of your replay, you should try implementing said improvements in your next run (don't prioritise the FC, prioritise the improvements, as the FC will come with ease if improvements are what you strive for).

I'm not some pro or anything though (I too, am a 6 digit 😂) but I hope this helped. 👌

McEndu wrote:

For mapping: yes, a mentor is definitely helpful when you start out

For playing: 多练 (just play more lol)

From a practical point of view, there are players in the community who can mod your beatmaps for free and give you advice to help you become better in the editor, but also spectate you in game and offer you important tips for improvement (especially if you are relatively new to osu!). So if you are an inexperienced player and want to know as many things as possible about mapping or playing, just ask the community directly.

MAN IM THE ONE WHO NEEDS COACHING, IM HARDSTUCK 5 DIGIT FOR 4 YEARS SLOW ASS IMPROVEMENT HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

DerpyX_X wrote:

MAN IM THE ONE WHO NEEDS COACHING, IM HARDSTUCK 5 DIGIT FOR 4 YEARS SLOW ASS IMPROVEMENT HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

My brother, you hit 4 digit 2-3 months ago, you are NOT hardstuck. I've literally been 5 digit since before you started playing 😭

You'd probably get better feedback by having your irl friend look on how you play. Everyone plays osu differently and some insight on how your weaknesses are your other friend's strengths will be needed to overcome your challenges.

That said, if you don't have irl friend playing osu, just general feedback from player that have opposite skillsets from you will do

I don't really need osu coaching, it's unneccesary for me but I would agree that you can consider hiring a coach
As how the simple osu is, the game mostly requires you to play more and get better so most people will think coaching is a redundant. But I also think a good coach that can lead you to a proper way can help you to do that better
Also If this game has OWC, there's obviously need a coach to lead the team to the best.
At the end, thinking coaching is waste of time and money or spend them to get the skill, the rank you desired is up to you.

As others have said you don't need coaching to get good and the main driver of improvement is the time you put into the game.

That being said coaching has its benefits. Having an experienced coach can help you set goals, improve motivation, improve self awareness and make you play consistently.

If you or anyone else is interested in coaching I can do a session for free and if you find it useful you can give back based on how much you feel it helped you.

DerpyX_X wrote:

MAN IM THE ONE WHO NEEDS COACHING, IM HARDSTUCK 5 DIGIT FOR 4 YEARS SLOW ASS IMPROVEMENT HELPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP

and you think your hardstuck heh. too the people who think im not find a map since my "peak" that isnt abusing either acc pp, length, or the rework that buffed non mechanical tapping stuff way too much.

there's osu coaches on fiverr

if you have specific problems/questions, then asking can probably get you about the same ansvers as a coach would give

Honestly I wouldn't mind spectating you and giving some pointers for free. If you have a handcam that's a bonus, so whenever we're both online and I have the time feel free to drop a DM.

But you really haven't been playing the game long so just enjoy the ride and the music for now.

Naiad wrote:

Coaching is mostly worthless. A game like overwatch requires much more thinking and strategy, so coaching is inherently more valuable. I frankly think hiring a coach wouldn't do anything more than asking a high ranked friend a few questions.

I also want to say that even if coaching was of significant help I wouldn't invest money yet with as little playtime as you.

thank you for the advice. i will try to ask for advice from the comm. my only issue is finding out what my struggles are

Naiad wrote:

Coaching is mostly worthless. A game like overwatch requires much more thinking and strategy, so coaching is inherently more valuable. I frankly think hiring a coach wouldn't do anything more than asking a high ranked friend a few questions.

I also want to say that even if coaching was of significant help I wouldn't invest money yet with as little playtime as you.

Wimpy Cursed wrote:

Honestly coaching in this game is like getting taught about your grip, approaching patterns, playstyle, etc. Just learning more about the game's mechanical side, I guess.
So it doesn't really focus on your problems entirely, but rather what can you apply from the general information that you will receive.

Would I say you should get coaching for your own problems? No. The general community can help with most problems (maybe all, I don't know about that).
To learn? Sure, it's ok.

Na_Terminator wrote:

I think coaching can definitely help as (like you said), it's much easier to spot improvements with an outside perspective

HOWEVER, I don't think you should PAY for coaching (as at the level you're at at the moment, any sort of payment would essentially be a scam 💀). I say this as I'm sure many higher ranked players (doesn't have to be 3 digit - any 5 digit would suffice, or even a high ranked 6 digit) would be willing to offer you help for FREE.

Though if you are going to have someone help you learn, make sure it isn't just someone who farms, but someone who actually pays attention to skill sets and didn't just luck out by retry spamming.

Anyway, I hope you improve man - you don't have much play time so you've got plenty of potential. One thing that I do suggest though is looking at your replays. This is a really useful tool as you can easily analyse your aim, your tapping, and even listen to how you tap to the beat (along with more minor things like UR - though that isn't something to worry about just yet).

When you have established what you can improve based off of your replay, you should try implementing said improvements in your next run (don't prioritise the FC, prioritise the improvements, as the FC will come with ease if improvements are what you strive for).

I'm not some pro or anything though (I too, am a 6 digit 😂) but I hope this helped. 👌

sorry its been so long but look at my profile now!! ive been grinding and took everyones advice

Dude I just read ur profile ur 6'7 get off osu and in the nba Lmao