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Max spinner speed... why 477?
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He's not a cheater unless you have solid proof pointing him as one.
the proof is that he hacked into source code of osu and changed the amount of bonus score he gets with spinning + he uses a bot for spinning and i guess it is obvious, his own replay shows that pretty obviously.
It was a joke, aevv wasn't going to get banned either but he said "I'M A CHEAT BAN ME" and that was the reason he got banned lol.
The fact he won't be banned because there isn't any conclusive proof was a joke.
Waryas
peppy coded spinners so I'm sure he can detect fake spin code.
Another not related to spinners:
I remember one time me naptime and Lybydose were in a multi, we played a map with spunout which only had sliders+spinners (they might be giant - stomp box), all three of us had SS at the break and yet our score were slightly different (+100-+1000).
I do believe the amount of bonus spunout/your spin gives is also CPU dependant.
Another not related to spinners:
I remember one time me naptime and Lybydose were in a multi, we played a map with spunout which only had sliders+spinners (they might be giant - stomp box), all three of us had SS at the break and yet our score were slightly different (+100-+1000).
I do believe the amount of bonus spunout/your spin gives is also CPU dependant.
Then that guy did some awesome overclocking I would say xD *joking*
I believe it too:JesusYamato wrote:
I do believe the amount of bonus spunout/your spin gives is also CPU dependant.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121314
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121315
(Lol)
Yakety Saxer
First one = SpunOut after OMG [BadApple] overloadErufenRito wrote:
I believe it too:JesusYamato wrote:
I do believe the amount of bonus spunout/your spin gives is also CPU dependant.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121314
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121315
(Lol)
Second one = Normal
:>
When I saw your score I started to believe it. I get around 3.2m with the glitched spunout, my CPU is an Intel Celeron 220 (1.2GHz)...ErufenRito wrote:
I believe it too:JesusYamato wrote:
I do believe the amount of bonus spunout/your spin gives is also CPU dependant.
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121314
If I knew what was yours I'd make a correlation.
Fine, I admit it, that example was just stupid, but these are better I hope:
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121314 Score: 4.612.400
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121967 Score: 4.534.400
And I once got one at ~1mill when I was very laggy
Anyways:
(And good luck at your correlation)
pd: I have seen auto failing spinners when I was watching auto play while laggy, maybe one day I can get pics, but then again, this is already too offtopic
pd2: I remember that in the past, spinner speed could go 500+, but don't remember exactly how much, why peppy suddenly decided to limit it to 477, is a mistery to me too, but I think I have seen a thread with that answer (a very old threasd btw)
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121314 Score: 4.612.400
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121967 Score: 4.534.400
And I once got one at ~1mill when I was very laggy
Anyways:
Well, my laptop's processor is a Intel Core duo 2.20 ghz, but it's old, and gets too much heat after 3-5 games and then starts lagging awfully, so I can't play much anyways._Gezo_ wrote:
When I saw your score I started to believe it. I get around 3.2m with the glitched spunout, my CPU is an Intel Celeron 220 (1.2GHz)...
If I knew what was yours I'd make a correlation.
(And good luck at your correlation)
pd: I have seen auto failing spinners when I was watching auto play while laggy, maybe one day I can get pics, but then again, this is already too offtopic
pd2: I remember that in the past, spinner speed could go 500+, but don't remember exactly how much, why peppy suddenly decided to limit it to 477, is a mistery to me too, but I think I have seen a thread with that answer (a very old threasd btw)
Maybe, this guy just used macro commands for his mouse?Neruell wrote:
the proof is that he hacked into source code of osu and changed the amount of bonus score he gets with spinning + he uses a bot for spinning and i guess it is obvious, his own replay shows that pretty obviously.
Well we don't talk about the constant 477 spinning, we talk about getting bonus score which is unnormal, even if he uses a macro for spinning, it is also bannable because it means he is using a third party software to achieve something in osu! which is forbidden.
Cheer-no
It's probably some form of overclocking or underclocking the game. There are internal timing calculations of some kind that stop the game from going too fast or slow during gameplay, but they don't affect everything. If the game doesn't run at the right speed, SPM means nothing - if I underclock the game I can easily get 477 SPM and barely pass a spinner, if I overclock it it'll say I'm spinning less than 10 SPM but I can still get several thousand bonus points.
If you do forcefully change some settings of the game then it is a hack. If the game itself runs "unsmooth" or at least not as it suppose to run then it won't record your scores (that did happen to me some time ago when I had graphic issues)Cheer-no wrote:
It's probably some form of overclocking or underclocking the game. There are internal timing calculations of some kind that stop the game from going too fast or slow during gameplay, but they don't affect everything. If the game doesn't run at the right speed, SPM means nothing - if I underclock the game I can easily get 477 SPM and barely pass a spinner, if I overclock it it'll say I'm spinning less than 10 SPM but I can still get several thousand bonus points.
Cheer-no
Waryas
He is not the only one and there are others since 1-2 years on scoreboard.
MarKKaM777 wrote:
Why nobody bans them?
No proof of cheating.
I had a good laugh at that #20 record.
Genius cheaters.
i love how every other G&R thread converges into a cheater thread.
Should the max speed be decreased to 377, I might get 1000+ rwbo per day 
haha indeedKRZY wrote:
i love how every other G&R thread converges into a cheater thread.
Topic Starter
How foolish I was to believe there was a chance of the thread not going this way. Thanks for keeping the thread bumped, though, I guess?Soaprman wrote:
We don't need another "this score doesn't look right" thread around here...
Sorry for necrobump and off-topic, but I apparently found the source of the spin problem (and it's not hacking).
Yes, it's related to the PC performance. To be specific, sometimes the PC fails to play the song smoothly (prolly due to RAM and Page File swap issue), making the song playback becomes "strobing" at a random point. If you happen to get the strobing right at the spinner, you can spin freely there.
What I mean by "strobing" is that the playback goes like: 00:56 - 00:57 - 00:58 - 00:59 - 01:00 - 01:01 - 01:00 - 01:01 - 01:00 - 01:01 - 01:02 - 01:03 - 01:04. (This is for demonstration purpose, the actual strobe timing is in milliseconds)
I play on various PCs, some are slow as heck and some are not. I personally got it, but I won't abuse it because I'm afraid I won't be able to break my record any further, especially at the point I missed 300 on some objects (right, I'm an SS freak
).
Back on topic: I'm curious about the max spin value though...
Yes, it's related to the PC performance. To be specific, sometimes the PC fails to play the song smoothly (prolly due to RAM and Page File swap issue), making the song playback becomes "strobing" at a random point. If you happen to get the strobing right at the spinner, you can spin freely there.
What I mean by "strobing" is that the playback goes like: 00:56 - 00:57 - 00:58 - 00:59 - 01:00 - 01:01 - 01:00 - 01:01 - 01:00 - 01:01 - 01:02 - 01:03 - 01:04. (This is for demonstration purpose, the actual strobe timing is in milliseconds)
I play on various PCs, some are slow as heck and some are not. I personally got it, but I won't abuse it because I'm afraid I won't be able to break my record any further, especially at the point I missed 300 on some objects (right, I'm an SS freak
).Back on topic: I'm curious about the max spin value though...
From what I know, if some "error" or anything inconsistant because of ram, graphiccard or anything else appears while playing , on any part of the song, even if you can't see it with your own eyes, you will get an error message telling you that the score calculation couldn't work for some reason and you won't get any score and of course you won't get your score ranked.Winshley wrote:
Sorry for necrobump and off-topic, but I apparently found the source of the spin problem (and it's not hacking).
Yes, it's related to the PC performance. To be specific, sometimes the PC fails to play the song smoothly (prolly due to RAM and Page File swap issue), making the song playback becomes "strobing" at a random point. If you happen to get the strobing right at the spinner, you can spin freely there.
What I mean by "strobing" is that the playback goes like: 00:56 - 00:57 - 00:58 - 00:59 - 01:00 - 01:01 - 01:00 - 01:01 - 01:00 - 01:01 - 01:02 - 01:03 - 01:04. (This is for demonstration purpose, the actual strobe timing is in milliseconds)
I play on various PCs, some are slow as heck and some are not. I personally got it, but I won't abuse it because I'm afraid I won't be able to break my record any further, especially at the point I missed 300 on some objects (right, I'm an SS freak
Back on topic: I'm curious about the max spin value though...
(Message like that will appear http://puu.sh/aSQN )
But in fact, I didn't get the message. I can keep on playing just fine. I played a "Marathon" map, I was at the 20% mark when the "strobing" happened (and immediately stopped spinning until the playback goes on smoothly lol), and happened to fail at 90% of the song.
After all, it's because of HDD issue (can you even update HDD driver?)
Wish I could reproduce this glitch though. It's hard to do because it randomly happens, and I have to have the camera ready as well.
After all, it's because of HDD issue (can you even update HDD driver?
)Wish I could reproduce this glitch though. It's hard to do because it randomly happens, and I have to have the camera ready as well.
i spin over 380 ;A;
I probably shouldn't be posting here, lol, but I just wanted to answer the question of this thread.
The expression
(477 / 60000) * pi * 2
has a value of 0.0499513..., something that is undoubtedly close to 0.05. The expression means this:
477 is the spins a minute, we divide that by 60000 which then gives us the spins per millisecond. Multiplying this by pi * 2 gives us that fraction of a spin expressed in radians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radian
We can therefore deduce: Peppy has set the maximum spinner speed at 0.05 rad / ms, which is exactly 50 radians a second, a nice integer. 50 radians a second is about 7.957747 spins a second - or 477.464829 spins per minute.
As to why peppy picked this value, I can only assume that this was chosen without any special reason. Rather, he just wanted to code a maximum speed limit for his spinner and apparently, doing that with radians instead of spins turned out to be easier to accomplish in his code.
The expression
(477 / 60000) * pi * 2
has a value of 0.0499513..., something that is undoubtedly close to 0.05. The expression means this:
477 is the spins a minute, we divide that by 60000 which then gives us the spins per millisecond. Multiplying this by pi * 2 gives us that fraction of a spin expressed in radians. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radian
We can therefore deduce: Peppy has set the maximum spinner speed at 0.05 rad / ms, which is exactly 50 radians a second, a nice integer. 50 radians a second is about 7.957747 spins a second - or 477.464829 spins per minute.
As to why peppy picked this value, I can only assume that this was chosen without any special reason. Rather, he just wanted to code a maximum speed limit for his spinner and apparently, doing that with radians instead of spins turned out to be easier to accomplish in his code.
I have this question too. Why isn't it 954 RPM? Why is it 477?
Maximum displayed is 477. If it says 477 you're actually spinning faster.
did you just necropost to answer your own question
that's pretty epic
that's pretty epic