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Max spinner speed... why 477?

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Soaprman
Searched for this in this board but found nothing. But it's something I've always been a little curious about but never bothered to ask. Where does the 477 number come from that auto spins at and that human players apparently can't exceed? Does it have to do with the way the game checks for circular motion or is it something else?
Kitsunemimi
It must be peppy's favourite number or something.
Hika
Rucker.
Also, I already hit max & most likely people already hit this number on average (HAHAHA) , can't we just allow the spinner to hit a higher number?
Shael_old
i've heard it can go above, but never saw it, i think the guy telling me that was talking bull shit anyway
KRZY

Shael wrote:

i've heard it can go above, but never saw it, i think the guy telling me that was talking bull shit anyway
Probably, I think osu is programmed so that you cannot exceed 477. You can, however, receive a spinner bonus higher than auto's.
Waryas

KRZY wrote:

Shael wrote:

i've heard it can go above, but never saw it, i think the guy telling me that was talking bull shit anyway
Probably, I think osu is programmed so that you cannot exceed 477. You can, however, receive a spinner bonus higher than auto's.
Like that new guy who's setting #1 on easy with hardrock only and beating full mod SS.
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/75686
winber1

JesusYamato wrote:

Like that new guy who's setting #1 on easy with hardrock only and beating full mod SS.
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/75686
wtf LOL.

there's probably some reason the max is 477, tho it is a really random number. it probably has to do with something technical, that i, being technologically challenged, do not understand. or maybe peppy is just trolling us with this random number

also, i was wondering if anyone else is able to spin faster using relax, rather than playing normally. I just realized this like a few days ago that i can easily spin 460 with relax... however, barely 400 with without it... is this happening to anyone else? ._. if yes, why is it like this? ._.
Waryas
relax makes the requirement to spin faster less (idk if that makes sense i'm tired)
Shael_old

JesusYamato wrote:

KRZY wrote:

Probably, I think osu is programmed so that you cannot exceed 477. You can, however, receive a spinner bonus higher than auto's.
Like that new guy who's setting #1 on easy with hardrock only and beating full mod SS.
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/75686
do want replay













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iDwarf

winber1 wrote:

wtf LOL.

there's probably some reason the max is 477, tho it is a really random number. it probably has to do with something technical, that i, being technologically challenged, do not understand. or maybe peppy is just trolling us with this random number

also, i was wondering if anyone else is able to spin faster using relax, rather than playing normally. I just realized this like a few days ago that i can easily spin 460 with relax... however, barely 400 with without it... is this happening to anyone else? ._. if yes, why is it like this? ._.

Just why you are trying to find meaning of this number? It bothers you or what?
maay

Soaprman wrote:

it's something I've always been a little curious about
Topic Starter
Soaprman

JesusYamato wrote:

KRZY wrote:

Probably, I think osu is programmed so that you cannot exceed 477. You can, however, receive a spinner bonus higher than auto's.
Like that new guy who's setting #1 on easy with hardrock only and beating full mod SS.
http://osu.ppy.sh/b/75686
We don't need another "this score doesn't look right" thread around here... interesting about that spinner bonus fact though. Any replays as reference?
Waryas
The one i linked... He's spinning 477 and getting 500k bonus per spin.
I think you mistook what i tried to point out here.
JAKACHAN

Soaprman wrote:

We don't need another "this score doesn't look right" thread around here... interesting about that spinner bonus fact though. Any replays as reference?
I just watched the replay of that new guy and it just looks crazy funny how he goes from 200 spins to 477 and receiving a 10k+ bonus in less than a second. Not gonna say anything though cause I would rather not start anything lol.

Edit: Screenshot -
Neruell
It's Cookiezi multiaccount, he is trolling new people on easy maps to accept their faith in being low compared to him in any way :p
Wishy
He's not a cheater unless you have solid proof pointing him as one.
Neruell
the proof is that he hacked into source code of osu and changed the amount of bonus score he gets with spinning + he uses a bot for spinning and i guess it is obvious, his own replay shows that pretty obviously.
Wishy
It was a joke, aevv wasn't going to get banned either but he said "I'M A CHEAT BAN ME" and that was the reason he got banned lol.
JAKACHAN
"Insert fail interpretation of above post" x.x
Wishy
The fact he won't be banned because there isn't any conclusive proof was a joke.
JAKACHAN
He still probably wont be anyway :/
Waryas
peppy coded spinners so I'm sure he can detect fake spin code.

Another not related to spinners:
I remember one time me naptime and Lybydose were in a multi, we played a map with spunout which only had sliders+spinners (they might be giant - stomp box), all three of us had SS at the break and yet our score were slightly different (+100-+1000).
I do believe the amount of bonus spunout/your spin gives is also CPU dependant.
Neruell
Then that guy did some awesome overclocking I would say xD *joking*
Luvdic

JesusYamato wrote:

I do believe the amount of bonus spunout/your spin gives is also CPU dependant.
I believe it too:

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121314
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121315

(Lol)
Yakety Saxer

ErufenRito wrote:

JesusYamato wrote:

I do believe the amount of bonus spunout/your spin gives is also CPU dependant.
I believe it too:

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121314
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121315

(Lol)
First one = SpunOut after OMG [BadApple] overload
Second one = Normal

:>
Yuzeyun

ErufenRito wrote:

JesusYamato wrote:

I do believe the amount of bonus spunout/your spin gives is also CPU dependant.
I believe it too:

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121314
When I saw your score I started to believe it. I get around 3.2m with the glitched spunout, my CPU is an Intel Celeron 220 (1.2GHz)...

If I knew what was yours I'd make a correlation.
Luvdic
Fine, I admit it, that example was just stupid, but these are better I hope:

http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121314 Score: 4.612.400
http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/121967 Score: 4.534.400

And I once got one at ~1mill when I was very laggy

Anyways:

_Gezo_ wrote:

When I saw your score I started to believe it. I get around 3.2m with the glitched spunout, my CPU is an Intel Celeron 220 (1.2GHz)...

If I knew what was yours I'd make a correlation.
Well, my laptop's processor is a Intel Core duo 2.20 ghz, but it's old, and gets too much heat after 3-5 games and then starts lagging awfully, so I can't play much anyways.

(And good luck at your correlation)

pd: I have seen auto failing spinners when I was watching auto play while laggy, maybe one day I can get pics, but then again, this is already too offtopic
pd2: I remember that in the past, spinner speed could go 500+, but don't remember exactly how much, why peppy suddenly decided to limit it to 477, is a mistery to me too, but I think I have seen a thread with that answer (a very old threasd btw)
MarKKaM

Neruell wrote:

the proof is that he hacked into source code of osu and changed the amount of bonus score he gets with spinning + he uses a bot for spinning and i guess it is obvious, his own replay shows that pretty obviously.
Maybe, this guy just used macro commands for his mouse?
Neruell
Well we don't talk about the constant 477 spinning, we talk about getting bonus score which is unnormal, even if he uses a macro for spinning, it is also bannable because it means he is using a third party software to achieve something in osu! which is forbidden.
Cheer-no
It's probably some form of overclocking or underclocking the game. There are internal timing calculations of some kind that stop the game from going too fast or slow during gameplay, but they don't affect everything. If the game doesn't run at the right speed, SPM means nothing - if I underclock the game I can easily get 477 SPM and barely pass a spinner, if I overclock it it'll say I'm spinning less than 10 SPM but I can still get several thousand bonus points.
kaxaru
Neruell

Cheer-no wrote:

It's probably some form of overclocking or underclocking the game. There are internal timing calculations of some kind that stop the game from going too fast or slow during gameplay, but they don't affect everything. If the game doesn't run at the right speed, SPM means nothing - if I underclock the game I can easily get 477 SPM and barely pass a spinner, if I overclock it it'll say I'm spinning less than 10 SPM but I can still get several thousand bonus points.
If you do forcefully change some settings of the game then it is a hack. If the game itself runs "unsmooth" or at least not as it suppose to run then it won't record your scores (that did happen to me some time ago when I had graphic issues)
Cheer-no
Well yeah, no doubt it's a hack... And it's still possible that it was a hack to change the game's speed. If the speed is only changed for a few seconds then it'll still submit.
Waryas

kaxaru wrote:

http://osu.ppy.sh/b/28894

^^
5months and still there, allow me to laugh.

Watch #20.
Neruell
He is not the only one and there are others since 1-2 years on scoreboard.
MarKKaM
Why nobody bans them?
Avedas

MarKKaM777 wrote:

Why nobody bans them?

No proof of cheating.

I had a good laugh at that #20 record.
Wishy
Genius cheaters.
KRZY
i love how every other G&R thread converges into a cheater thread.
Waryas
It's my fault this time can we get back on topic and delete the offtopic posts?
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