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Iruvata
Hello, I've been semi-alting (alt, but starting every stream/burst with index) for a long time but I'm starting to run into more and more stream/burst patterns where my fingers get tripped up always trying to start with the index finger, esp with higher bpm.

In my head, learning full-alt seems worth because with full-alt, I won't have to worry about starting with the "right" finger. However, I don't know if this is necessarily true and learning full-alt seems like a massive time commitment (relearning how to start streams/bursts with middle finger).

Has anyone went through the same dilemma as me? Did you end up switching to full-alt from semi alt or did you stick to semi alt and eventually get past this barrier with more practice? Most of the top players who alt seem to full-alt?
DM FOR MUTUAL
I play full alt and constantly get tripped up on bursty finger control patterns so idk if it's better

If you want me to break combo just put 2 triples next to each other at 200 bpm and 40% chance I will break, increases by 1 percent for each additional bpm
KS Wicher
Digital hypno had a video about finger Control and explained a method to get better at starting bursts with weaker finger
UruhaRushiaaa
single tap everything alt when you need to
anaxii

UruhaRushiaaa wrote:

single tap everything alt when you need to
simplest answer

being a full alt player is imo not as easy as we think
Voidedosu
I singletap almost everything except:

Switching from a slider-end to another object (other slider or a circle)
streams/bursts.
Probably anything over 200bpm.

so I think I'm semi-alt. You just gotta practice it.
Fxjlk
If you are 100% sure you want to master all patterns at every speed you are better off training full alt from the start because it will probably save you some time in the long run. It will slow your improvement in the short term though.

Most players will never play long enough for it to really matter so semi alt is best if you are not that committed to the game. You can always learn the correct way later when your tapping style cant handle the high bpm.
UruhaRushiaaa

Fxjlk wrote:

If you are 100% sure you want to master all patterns at every speed you are better off training full alt from the start because it will probably save you some time in the long run. It will slow your improvement in the short term though.

Most players will never play long enough for it to really matter so semi alt is best if you are not that committed to the game. You can always learn the correct way later when your tapping style cant handle the high bpm.
actually i find that most full alt players progress the fastest considering how broken it is in the early stages for farming dt but soon after full alt players will hit a hump which is extremely diffuclt to get over idk that was my experience anyways cuz i use to full alt at the start but switched one day
Fxjlk

UruhaRushiaaa wrote:

actually i find that most full alt players progress the fastest considering how broken it is in the early stages for farming dt but soon after full alt players will hit a hump which is extremely diffuclt to get over idk that was my experience anyways cuz i use to full alt at the start but switched one day
Ah ok. I'm full alt from day 1 till now and I hit a wall too. Took a while to get over it and it would of probably been easier to progress back then with semi alt.
Voidedosu
*shrug* I wouldn't know, personally. I've just kinda always played this way. The only real change-up I can think of was consciously alternating on any slider. I don't put much thought into it otherwise.
Nanofranne
Alternating is pref. Singletapper most likely utilise semi alt for tapping certain patterns they otherwise can't with singletapping alone. Personally however, I barely singletap
Indomi-chan
I prefer semi alt rather than full alt, full alt is not that easy to practice
anaxii

Indomi-chan wrote:

I prefer semi alt rather than full alt, full alt is not that easy to practice
when i full alt, i don't even full alt properly :cry:
KS Wicher
full alt comes in handy when playing high bpm jumps
Akisu
I singletap anything that isn’t burts or stream but if it 250bpm plus than I alt
anaxii

JojoXD wrote:

I singletap anything that isn’t burts or stream but if it 250bpm plus than I alt
so you singletap 240bpm jumps???
KS Wicher

Anaxii wrote:

JojoXD wrote:

I singletap anything that isn’t burts or stream but if it 250bpm plus than I alt
so you singletap 240bpm jumps???
polo shirt moment, dude singletapped simarik with dt xd
anaxii

KS Wicher wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

JojoXD wrote:

I singletap anything that isn’t burts or stream but if it 250bpm plus than I alt
so you singletap 240bpm jumps???
polo shirt moment, dude singlepped simarik with dt xd
whatahell
UruhaRushiaaa

Anaxii wrote:

JojoXD wrote:

I singletap anything that isn’t burts or stream but if it 250bpm plus than I alt
so you singletap 240bpm jumps???
who dosent? :D
Akisu

KS Wicher wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

JojoXD wrote:

I singletap anything that isn’t burts or stream but if it 250bpm plus than I alt
so you singletap 240bpm jumps???
polo shirt moment, dude singletapped simarik with dt xd
Simarik dt is only 145bpm WITH DT if I could read ar 10.3 it would be free setting aside the aim
anaxii

UruhaRushiaaa wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

JojoXD wrote:

I singletap anything that isn’t burts or stream but if it 250bpm plus than I alt
so you singletap 240bpm jumps???
who dosent? :D
me
KS Wicher

JojoXD wrote:

KS Wicher wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

JojoXD wrote:

I singletap anything that isn’t burts or stream but if it 250bpm plus than I alt
so you singletap 240bpm jumps???
polo shirt moment, dude singletapped simarik with dt xd
Simarik dt is only 145bpm WITH DT if I could read ar 10.3 it would be free setting aside the aim
Then learn 10.3

🤑🤑
anaxii

KS Wicher wrote:

JojoXD wrote:

KS Wicher wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

JojoXD wrote:

I singletap anything that isn’t burts or stream but if it 250bpm plus than I alt
so you singletap 240bpm jumps???
polo shirt moment, dude singletapped simarik with dt xd
Simarik dt is only 145bpm WITH DT if I could read ar 10.3 it would be free setting aside the aim
Then learn 10.3

🤑🤑
10.3 is easier than 10 btw
KS Wicher

Anaxii wrote:

KS Wicher wrote:

JojoXD wrote:

KS Wicher wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

JojoXD wrote:

I singletap anything that isn’t burts or stream but if it 250bpm plus than I alt
so you singletap 240bpm jumps???
polo shirt moment, dude singletapped simarik with dt xd
Simarik dt is only 145bpm WITH DT if I could read ar 10.3 it would be free setting aside the aim
Then learn 10.3

🤑🤑
10.3 is easier than 10 btw
11 is easier than 6 for me lol
anaxii

KS Wicher wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

KS Wicher wrote:

JojoXD wrote:

KS Wicher wrote:

Anaxii wrote:

JojoXD wrote:

I singletap anything that isn’t burts or stream but if it 250bpm plus than I alt
so you singletap 240bpm jumps???
polo shirt moment, dude singletapped simarik with dt xd
Simarik dt is only 145bpm WITH DT if I could read ar 10.3 it would be free setting aside the aim
Then learn 10.3

🤑🤑
10.3 is easier than 10 btw
11 is easier than 6 for me lol
exactly XDDDD
mqwilliamscom
I had this problem too and still do to some extent. I'm a semi alter but what helps me is whenever I go into single tap mode for a section I single tap on the weaker finger. It helps drill the finger control on that finger into my mind. It's more of a slow burn but it helped me and honestly I can start bursts on either nowadays (though I still have a preference)
KS Wicher
For me singletapping is too distracting lol

Its not like i cant singletap tho, when in my comfort zone i can swap from ring singletap to index singletap and then to alt in a single jump section but i just dont understand why anybody would want to singletap unless its for fun

Habbits maybe
anaxii

KS Wicher wrote:

For me singletapping is too distracting lol

Its not like i cant singletap tho, when in my comfort zone i can swap from ring singletap to index singletap and then to alt in a single jump section but i just dont understand why anybody would want to singletap unless its for fun

Habbits maybe
not everybody is a singletapper anyway
Uranium
I do a hybrid (I start patterns with my Middle finger but full alt everything else), As long as u practice they are both good, The only difficulties is 330BPM jumps/alt patterns with triples but realistically you won't encounter those unless you go out of your way to play maps with them.
__scripting
semi-alt is better imo

more comfortable for me at least
anaxii

__scripting wrote:

semi-alt is better imo

more comfortable for me at least
for real
Jebus1

Gamja wrote:

Hello, I've been semi-alting (alt, but starting every stream/burst with index) for a long time but I'm starting to run into more and more stream/burst patterns where my fingers get tripped up always trying to start with the index finger, esp with higher bpm.

In my head, learning full-alt seems worth because with full-alt, I won't have to worry about starting with the "right" finger. However, I don't know if this is necessarily true and learning full-alt seems like a massive time commitment (relearning how to start streams/bursts with middle finger).

Has anyone went through the same dilemma as me? Did you end up switching to full-alt from semi alt or did you stick to semi alt and eventually get past this barrier with more practice? Most of the top players who alt seem to full-alt?
I alternate on jumps except the first note when coming off a slider, I only sometimes alternate with sliders, and i rarely trip up, unless I've been playing the same map for a while, then when I switch to another map my fingers lock up a bit, some times I alternate with doubles while other times no. idek my playstyle is a little all over the place,😂
anaxii

Jebus1 wrote:

Gamja wrote:

Hello, I've been semi-alting (alt, but starting every stream/burst with index) for a long time but I'm starting to run into more and more stream/burst patterns where my fingers get tripped up always trying to start with the index finger, esp with higher bpm.

In my head, learning full-alt seems worth because with full-alt, I won't have to worry about starting with the "right" finger. However, I don't know if this is necessarily true and learning full-alt seems like a massive time commitment (relearning how to start streams/bursts with middle finger).

Has anyone went through the same dilemma as me? Did you end up switching to full-alt from semi alt or did you stick to semi alt and eventually get past this barrier with more practice? Most of the top players who alt seem to full-alt?
I alternate on jumps except the first note when coming off a slider, I only sometimes alternate with sliders, and i rarely trip up, unless I've been playing the same map for a while, then when I switch to another map my fingers lock up a bit, some times I alternate with doubles while other times no. idek my playstyle is a little all over the place,😂
if it's good for you then it's fine!! ^^
Jebus1

Anaxii wrote:

Jebus1 wrote:

Gamja wrote:

Hello, I've been semi-alting (alt, but starting every stream/burst with index) for a long time but I'm starting to run into more and more stream/burst patterns where my fingers get tripped up always trying to start with the index finger, esp with higher bpm.

In my head, learning full-alt seems worth because with full-alt, I won't have to worry about starting with the "right" finger. However, I don't know if this is necessarily true and learning full-alt seems like a massive time commitment (relearning how to start streams/bursts with middle finger).

Has anyone went through the same dilemma as me? Did you end up switching to full-alt from semi alt or did you stick to semi alt and eventually get past this barrier with more practice? Most of the top players who alt seem to full-alt?
I alternate on jumps except the first note when coming off a slider, I only sometimes alternate with sliders, and i rarely trip up, unless I've been playing the same map for a while, then when I switch to another map my fingers lock up a bit, some times I alternate with doubles while other times no. idek my playstyle is a little all over the place,😂
if it's good for you then it's fine!! ^^
Update on my play style, I was curious to see what I actually do on jumps and it turns out it's more like (my keybinds are HN) h n h nn h n h nn h n h nn h n h nn 😅 and sometimes h nn h nn h nn or even h nnn hh n hh n n hh nn(basically just random)
Naiad

Gamja wrote:

Hello, I've been semi-alting (alt, but starting every stream/burst with index) for a long time but I'm starting to run into more and more stream/burst patterns where my fingers get tripped up always trying to start with the index finger, esp with higher bpm.

In my head, learning full-alt seems worth because with full-alt, I won't have to worry about starting with the "right" finger. However, I don't know if this is necessarily true and learning full-alt seems like a massive time commitment (relearning how to start streams/bursts with middle finger).

Has anyone went through the same dilemma as me? Did you end up switching to full-alt from semi alt or did you stick to semi alt and eventually get past this barrier with more practice? Most of the top players who alt seem to full-alt?
It didn't take me that long to switch from pure singletap to full alt, and I rarely struggle with starting streams. This is of course anecdotal with a sample size of 1 so take what I have to say with a grain of salt.
Nanofranne

Naiad wrote:

Gamja wrote:

Hello, I've been semi-alting (alt, but starting every stream/burst with index) for a long time but I'm starting to run into more and more stream/burst patterns where my fingers get tripped up always trying to start with the index finger, esp with higher bpm.

In my head, learning full-alt seems worth because with full-alt, I won't have to worry about starting with the "right" finger. However, I don't know if this is necessarily true and learning full-alt seems like a massive time commitment (relearning how to start streams/bursts with middle finger).

Has anyone went through the same dilemma as me? Did you end up switching to full-alt from semi alt or did you stick to semi alt and eventually get past this barrier with more practice? Most of the top players who alt seem to full-alt?
It didn't take me that long to switch from pure singletap to full alt, and I rarely struggle with starting streams. This is of course anecdotal with a sample size of 1 so take what I have to say with a grain of salt.
Yep. I don't even remember any moment that I singletap anymore in the past, mainly the last time I transitioned to semi alt was playing 3*-4*s.

I always start my stream and burst with middle finger
Doom Mood
I singletap on jumps that I'm really comfortable at, while I alternate high bpm jumps, sometimes slow sections and whenever I lose stamina. I also have the same struggle on picking the "right finger" to tap because I played by singletap too much or by alternate too much, but I'll get the hang of it over time. It's just how I feel like playing it this way.
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