If you want in as a replacement, PM me.

With how many people stressed out over the last one and other stuff, I REALLY don't expect the signups. After this game will be the first continuation of the WW games.

This is an experimental game, you may find some balance issues, and other problems. Submit any ideas to me, and I will consider them. If they're important enough, I may implement them right away. Also, I feel like explaining less this time around. Do research if you have questions about roles or anything. Previous mafia games may also answer your questions.

If you want to play in future games, be active. If you are inactive for too long without notice, you will be BANNED from future games until my rage subsides. That'll likely only be one game for the first infraction, but take heed, because I will take into account previous games you've played before this.



New note: As people seem to be confused about this. If a player has a majority of people voting him at any point, the day ends with a lynch automatically.

Note 2: Roleplaying makes it a bit harder in mafia, please don't. I will roleplay the day's lynching for you. If you have a specific death in mind for when you're lynched, PM me. I might go with it.

Note 3: Please take this game seriously. It's hard for it to be played properly if you don't.

Final Note: http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page this wiki is from a typo dedicated to hosting mafia games. If you have questions about mafia play, the wiki here can help.

Final Note 2: There are no "items" or simmilar purposes. There are no notes you can send after death. If your role doesn't say it's an ability that you can do, you can't do it. Other than role abilities, you can talk in this thread and you can vote.

If you want to play, post here with /in. We'll start when we have 9. Please read the rules.

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This is more difficult than you remember....

Attempt 3

Attempt 2 had a bad setup! This one is better!

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Status: Somewhere between signups and over.

.::] Alive [::.
4. Rantai
5. Haneii
6. animask
9. Rolled



Replacement Spots - Will be used if needed.
A. rust45
B. Q
C. foulcoon
D.

.::] Dead [::.
3. Ph0x - Neutral Hider - Lynched D1
8. DxS - Doublevoter (Town) - Killed N1
2. Firo Prochainezo foulcoon - Mafia Politician - Lynched D2
7. NoHItter - Amnesiac Cop - Killed N2
1. 0_o - Mafia Strongman - Lynched D3
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.::] The Setup [::.


It consists of any combination of roles the mod chooses, but the mod is attempting to make it more balanced.

Every player in this game will have received a Role PM. They will look like something.

All roles are either on the mafiascum wiki, or mentioned in the previous games. If for some reason your role isn't, consider yourself lucky or blind, and then PM me for an explanation.

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.::] Rules [::.
General

1. Unless otherwise stated in your Role PM, this game takes place in this thread only - do not discuss it anywhere else. Doing so will get you modkilled or immediately replaced, depending on the severity of the offence. (This is important for mafia games.)

2. Do not quote any PM, part or whole, you receive from the Mod. This includes fake or erroneous quoting. Breaking this rule will get you modkilled. However, you may claim any role you please, and explain the powers in any way you please.

3. If you believe I've made an error as the mod, send me a PM. Please do not post about such things in the thread. If you have anything else you need me to read or address, post something like this - "Mod: You're the best."

4. A player who is modkilled will lose the game, regardless of whether their team mates eventually win.

5. Omitted.

Voting, Lynching and Deaths

6. Any voting action must be bolded - Vote: destructor, etc.

7. You may vote to end the day without a lynch by voting No Lynch.

8. Voting is back to the normal system.

9. A lynch occurs when a player has an absolute majority of votes on them.

10. At deadline, the player with the most votes is lynched. In the event of a draw, the player who had the most votes before being tied will be lynched.

11. Once a lynch occurs the Day is considered to be over. Please, please, PLEASE do not post again until the next Day begins, especially if you are the player who was just lynched. (I accept talking beforehand as long as I haven't posted the lynch scene yet.)

12. On death, a player's role will be revealed.

13. A modkill will end the Day.

14. Once a player is dead, they cannot contribute any more to the game. They are not to post anything. (I'll accept a simple Bah! or Go Town!)

Activity

15. Please treat this game as a commitment.

16. Day one has a length of 5 IRL days. Each consecutive day's deadline is cut short by a day, unless a No Lynch is called for or the host sees signifigant activity. There are only a few reasons why I would extend one (such as replacing players).

17. If a player has not posted in 24 hours, I will prod them if requested to do so. That is, it's up to you to ask me to prod a certain player.

17b. Don't make me prod someone. As in, post once every 24 hours. If you have nothing to say, say "I'm here." I will be much more strict with prods than normal.

18. Prods must be responded to in thread.

19. A player who doesn't respond to their prod will be replaced or modkilled.

20. If you are going to be unable to post for over 24 hours, leave me a note in thread. As long as I am personally given notice, you will not be prodded.

Conduct

21. Be courteous and respectful to your fellow players.

22. Blatantly antisocial and offensive behaviour or personal attacks will be grounds for replacement at my own discretion.

23. Finally, Mafia is for fun, so enjoy yourself.

24. If you've noticed I've missed something, feel free to ask me about it.

25. I reserve the right to change these rules.

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Hi, I'll join.

/in to replace

/in

/in

This time new and improved~

No experiments this time.

I'm just gonna bump this.

Voting system back to Normal?
Sure why not.
(I demand a Vanilla role - j/k)

I'll take the last slot.

I'll join

Rolled wrote:

I'll take the last slot.

<3

How ever will I make decisions without Two here

Rolled wrote:

How ever will I make decisions without Two here

I hope we're mafia buddies.

=]

This game will be starting in 1-2 days. Busy busy. (No I won't vanish like I have in the past.)

hurry up

Rolled wrote:

Prod: LadySuburu

Should've waited 23 minutes and I'dve said I'm getting ready to release roles right now.

Confirmed.

>w<

Confirm.

^^~

Ready~

what a tilde using poser

hey two get your own mafia thread

Confirmed.

I never get to be mafia D:

Confirmed.

animask, you aren't supposed to make comments like those. They're just WIFOM.
FoS: animask

( lulzy question )

If I was less suspicious than usual would I be more suspicious?

...
I give up on reading you.
Your comments and claims don't make sense and are anti-town even if you ARE town.

Most people have read their role PM. I am starting the day now.

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch. Deadline is in /6/ days.

Vote: animask
Already explained my reason.
WIFOM statement off the bat followed with an even more WIFOM-y statement.

Ohayo

animask wrote:

If I was less suspicious than usual would I be more suspicious?

lol, what?

NoHItter wrote:

...
I give up on reading you.
Your comments and claims don't make sense and are anti-town even if you ARE town.

XD

animask wrote:

I never get to be mafia D:

It's funny because I was this close to posting the same thing.

Can't we all just agree that no matter what animask is not benefitial to town?

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Can't we all just agree that no matter what animask is not benefitial to town?

He's adorable - animask for town mascot o/

animask supplies useful information sometimes~

A common mistake in these games, is people feel the needs to be mysterious, secretive, all that jazz. That's the opposite of what you should do as a pro-town member. Town's goal is to put the puzzle together, not scramble the pieces.

l2p animask.

0_o wrote:

It's funny because I was this close to posting the same thing.

Yea. Statements like those are very WIFOM.
Generally we should avoid WIFOM, but there are some cases where WIFOM is unavoidable.

@Rolled I didn't really say anything like that yet. I was serious with my last question.

I don't want people to FoS me when I start doing better now...

Also, I thought it would be okay to be just a bit careless on Day 1 because there isn't much
being relayed around anyways and most people make somewhat random votes anyways (in larger groups).

animask wrote:

I didn't really say anything like that yet. I was serious with my last question.

If it was then maybe you could have worded it better? Basically all you said was, if I was less X, will I be more X?
It doesn't make sense.

animask wrote:

I don't want people to FoS me when I start doing better now...

I'll unvote you when you start "doing better" and if someone else suspicious comes around.

animask wrote:

Also, I thought it would be okay to be just a bit careless on Day 1 because there isn't much
being relayed around anyways and most people make somewhat random votes anyways (in larger groups).

Day 1 is important. Why? Because it gives you possible links to players, offers scumtells/insights that may have been ironed out by Night 1 via Scumchat, etc. So Day 1 is important.

I'm gonna take a stab at interpreting animask's question. Do you mean something like "People have been finding my previous behaviour suspicious, but if I stop acting like that will you guys find the fact that I'm acting differently suspicious?"

0_o wrote:

I'm gonna take a stab at interpreting animask's question. Do you mean something like "People have been finding my previous behaviour suspicious, but if I stop acting like that will you guys find the fact that I'm acting differently suspicious?"

Yes, that's what I mean. I have a strong feeling that at least some of you will be.

If you think your old playstyle works, keep it. If not, change it. Once you find a nice balance try to stay as consistent as possible, regardless of your role.

You've made it obvious so far this game that you don't want to cause suspicion. This obviously means you are mafia.

FoS: animask

everything is wifom, nohitter

@Rolled, I thought being less suspicious was something that everyone is supposed to do.
No matter what role you have, being suspicious isn't a good thing.

You assume that I'm hiding a role (which happens to be mafia). Being suspicious doesn't always make you mafia.

You might be secretly assuming I have an aux role, but accusing people of having one isn't a pro-town thing to do
(at this time of the game).

A person becomes suspicious when they're suspected of something other than what they're presenting.

Wouldn't want anybody to scream WIFOM at me, so with this logic it doesn't necessarily mean you're mafia. But coupled with other things you've said already, it could make someone's opinion sway in that direction.

animask wrote:

You might be secretly assuming I have an aux role, but accusing people of having one isn't a pro-town thing to do
(at this time of the game).

I doubt any townie would jump on you if they suspected you have an aux role.

Day extened by 1 day.

If Firo does not confirm within a day or so, I will replace.

tick tock tick tock.

So....any ideas if we can assume what role animask is?

Sorry, I had some problems with my computer. I confirm.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

tick tock tick tock.

So....any ideas if we can assume what role animask is?

I have no idea what this even means.

Can you elaborate on this? Are you asking if there's a group agreement on animask's role? Weird.

@Rolled I'm just asking if anyone has an idea on what animask's role could be since he's always rather outspoken no matter what he ends up being.

Personally I think he has a pro town aux role or is just plain town but again no immediate ideas.

@Rantai, (FoS) Who said that he was a townie? You're not supposed to assume that... If you assumed that he was mafia instead,
he might be trying to use "WIFOM" to make people think I'm mafia or have an aux role. (The mafia/townie[aux] thing can be pretty persuading.)

@DxS, my role doesn't really matter right now, does it? I could be honest and say that I don't have one, but
the odds of people actually believing that is really small.

The day is being extended? Who do we vote for?

*looks at his own post*

Vote: Rantai

@animask: Sounded like a general statement to me, don't really think Rantai was making any assumptions. Regardless, you're in too much of a hurry, imo, to vote Rantai. And for what? Assuming rolled is town?

Furthermore, you spent your past posts explaining how assuming/accusing someone of a role this early in the game isn't pro-town. DxS was just role fishing + expressed his thoughts about you having a pro aux role or being a plain town member. Yet, after all that, you suspect and vote Rantai?


@DxS: Why did you ask for his role earlier? How do you know/why do you think he's town now?


FoS on DxS and animask

animask wrote:

@Rolled, I thought being less suspicious was something that everyone is supposed to do.
No matter what role you have, being suspicious isn't a good thing.

Good town players don't try to look less (or more) suspicious. They have nothing to worry about, and nothing to hide.

Mafia players should try to look less suspicious. However, good mafia players know how to do this without anyone noticing.

animask wrote:

You assume that I'm hiding a role (which happens to be mafia). Being suspicious doesn't always make you mafia.

You're right. But suspicions change; your role doesn't. Suspicions are traits of a character, and that character is bound to a role. Don't think of suspicions as traits of a role.

A tip for you, animask: Do not respond to anything directed at your meta. Do not think about anything related to your meta. Do not think about how to play the game. Just play your role to the best of your ability. If you are a mafia player, try to cast suspicion on other players while keeping it away from yourself. (As I said before, good mafia players can do this well.) If you are a town player, find clues from discussions, help iron out issues and details, and eventually try to find the mafia players. You don't need to worry about anything else.

Haneii wrote:

Furthermore, you spent your past posts explaining how assuming/accusing someone of a role this early in the game isn't pro-town. DxS was just role fishing + expressed his thoughts about you having a pro aux role or being a plain town member. Yet, after all that, you suspect and vote Rantai?

There's a difference here. DxS isn't claiming (explicitly or implicitly) that animask has a role. Rentai, however, is implicitly claiming that Rolled has a certain role. (I personally don't share this view with animask; I am just expressing my thoughts about your FoS.)

@Haneii, ooo, I haven't played with you before. Lets play~ lulz

Day 1 is almost over and I probably won't be able to post again before its done.

I voted for Rantai because of the way he assumed that Rolled was pro-town. Only a mafia member would know that and he didn't
really word it in an "assumption" manner. Also, I'm not accusing him of being mafia, but I'm saying that he seemed to be thinking as mafia.
DxS isn't really role-fishing and I replied to tell him that he doesn't need to be. You can't assume someone's role so early in the game, which is also why I said that figuring out my role in the beginning wasn't really possible or needed (mafia or not).

I'm also getting a townie feeling from you...

@Ph0X, okay I get what you're trying to say. I shouldn't be using metagaming to shape my suspicions and accusations. Doing
this would make me less open-minded and tunneling would occur more often.

No wait, I did play in a mafiascum game with you before, Haneii. Probably just not paying much attention to the other game atm...

animask wrote:

Day 1 is almost over and I probably won't be able to post again before its done.

=[

animask wrote:

Day 1 is almost over and I probably won't be able to post again before its done.

LS wrote:

(36 hours ago)
Deadline is in /6/ days.

What?

@Ph0x, it turns out I'm still connected to my internet... I thought I would d/c again (hasn't been working all day)

@animask

Mmm good point there. I made that statement because I felt you were implying that Rolled was a townie when you said "but accusing people of having one isn't a pro-town thing to do".

I was trying to say it on a more generic level though. Ie: In general, any townie wouldn't accuse you of an aux role this early in the game.

^ Clearly holds an aux role.

FoS: Ph0x

Why exactly would you want to "imply"/"show" that someone is a power role?

NoHItter wrote:

FoS: Ph0x

Why exactly would you want to "imply"/"show" that someone is a power role?

Pretty sure that was a joke.

Gah why do I find you suspicious in every game we're in >_>

Also, why did you vote animask for saying WIFOM things when you said yourself that he says those kind of comments regardless of his role?

0_o wrote:

Also, why did you vote animask for saying WIFOM things when you said yourself that he says those kind of comments regardless of his role?

Remember when I said that I don't really use meta as a basis for suspicion/exemption.
What animask said was suspicious and regardless of past play, I opt to vote suspicious players.

Shouldn't the day be done by now...?

(2 days ago)

LadySuburu wrote:

With 9 alive, it's 5 to lynch. Deadline is in /6/ days.

Unless I read that wrong.

oh whoops, I thought the extension meant that the deadline passed already...

LadySuburu wrote:

8. Voting is back to the normal system.

unvote Rantai, FoS Rantai

That's better.

NoHItter wrote:

FoS: Ph0x

Why exactly would you want to "imply"/"show" that someone is a power role?

I'd say reactions like yours are pretty revealing.

NoHItter wrote:

0_o wrote:

Also, why did you vote animask for saying WIFOM things when you said yourself that he says those kind of comments regardless of his role?

Remember when I said that I don't really use meta as a basis for suspicion/exemption.
What animask said was suspicious and regardless of past play, I opt to vote suspicious players.

Well I disagree with your strategy, but fair enough.

sooooo what's up guys

0_o wrote:

sooooo what's up guys

Chillin'.

Will re-read thread and actually try in a bit.

Any word from the other guys?

This situation has been pretty confusing and I don't know what to say.

Except the fact that NoHItter sounds mildly suspicious.

Firo Prochainezo wrote:

This situation has been pretty confusing and I don't know what to say.

Except the fact that NoHItter sounds mildly suspicious.

Would you care to explain why you find me suspicious?

NoHItter is being very tryhard, hiding behind the "WIFOM is never useful" shield.

NoHItter wrote:

animask, you aren't supposed to make comments like those. They're just WIFOM.
FoS: animask

NoHItter wrote:

0_o wrote:

It's funny because I was this close to posting the same thing.

Yea. Statements like those are very WIFOM.
Generally we should avoid WIFOM, but there are some cases where WIFOM is unavoidable.

NoHItter wrote:

FoS: Ph0x

Why exactly would you want to "imply"/"show" that someone is a power role?

(I don't know if Firo came to the same conclusion as me. Just stating my thoughts of NoHItter after a re-read.)

Vote: NoHItter

0_o, what are your thoughts on DxS's rolefishing post?

I don't need to repeat what Ph0X said.

Vote: NoHItter