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Two_old
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I just think that because animask says stuff like that, that if they really were mafia they'd be a lot more passive (like in the other mafia game I'm in, where they are mafia)

edit: wait did I even vote for animask this game? so confusing, either way I'm unvoting if I did lol
Haneii
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Haneii

Two wrote:

edit: wait did I even vote for animask this game? so confusing, either way I'm unvoting if I did lol
You confused me for a while. Thought I missed a post by you and went back looking for it @_@

Although...

You seem a little too eager to be voting/unvoting animask - you'd think someone would remember why they voted and where it happened if it were an informed decision vs a hasty vote where you wouldn't put so much effort into keeping track (you just want a kill, doesn't matter who :P).
I think there might just be chance you are mafia - either in this game or the other games you're currently involved in XD. Not enough info to call you out as scum for this game yet though...
Two_old
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Two_old
I confused the games entirely, but my sentiment is the same for both. I really just think he'd play different if he was mafia... or has there been a game he's played where he was mafia that we can use as reference?
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
It's animask Haneii. animask


It's still obvious why people would hop and vote for animask just because of his playstyle...
Wojjan
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Wojjan
Roleclaim: BOMB

8-)
0_o
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0_o

Two wrote:

I confused the games entirely, but my sentiment is the same for both. I really just think he'd play different if he was mafia... or has there been a game he's played where he was mafia that we can use as reference?
Nope, HNM is the first (and only) only completed game he's been in, the rest are at Day 1 and still in progress so we don't know what he's like as mafia.
0_o
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0_o

Wojjan wrote:

Roleclaim: BOMB

8-)
Lets do it guys.

who wants to go first
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu
The Dreaming God awakens....

All votes have been reset...

The Dreaming God sleeps until tomorrow...

Edit: (Tomorrow meaning Day 2.)
Last edited by LadySuburu , edited 1 time in total.
Two_old
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Two_old
wat
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Lilac
lolwat?
0_o
2,155 posts
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0_o
http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Dreaming_God
The Dreaming God begins the game with the names of a set number one-shot abilities (traditionally ten), but is not informed what those 1-shot abilities do. Each night (or day in Nightless games), the Dreaming God MUST use one of his or her 1-shot abilities, which will have an effect upon the setup (usually consisting of a change to the Game Rules). This effect can be positive, neutral, or negative, depending on the ability.

The Dreaming God has no inherent alignment, and can favor either the Town or the Mafia, depending on what effects the Dreaming God's 1-shot abilities have.
ok
Lilac
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Lilac
shit just got real.
Haneii
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Haneii
kami no yume

0_o wrote:

Wojjan wrote:

Roleclaim: BOMB

8-)
Lets do it guys.

who wants to go first
Really?!! How does that help us? @_@

Wouldn't that give mafia a pick at our best townies/defense/offense D:

Unless you need to defend yourself from a lynch or have a way of defending yourself at night, I suggest against roll claiming this early into the game. It won't help us find mafia any better and it'll just give them enough information to be one step ahead of us.
Haneii
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Haneii
oh wow...Kami no yume :O


Question: Am I allowed to edit my posts? If so, sorry for the double post :/
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu

Haneii wrote:

oh wow...Kami no yume :O


Question: Am I allowed to edit my posts? If so, sorry for the double post :/
Please do not edit posts. I'll forgive accidental ones up to a point.
Lilac
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Lilac

Haneii wrote:

kami no yume

Really?!! How does that help us? @_@

Wouldn't that give mafia a pick at our best townies/defense/offense D:

Unless you need to defend yourself from a lynch or have a way of defending yourself at night, I suggest against roll claiming this early into the game. It won't help us find mafia any better and it'll just give them enough information to be one step ahead of us.
...You do know what the bomb does, right?
Haneii
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Haneii
yes I do - didn't think he was suggesting to set it off though O_O
0_o
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0_o

Haneii wrote:

yes I do - didn't think he was suggesting to set it off though O_O
Yeahhhh that was a joke.
Haneii
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Haneii
The mafia is walking amongst us and there's a high possibility we'll end up lynching one of our own before the day is through - and you're here making jokes??!!! D:<












:P
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
People I'm not listening to until the end of Day 1
animask, Haneii, Lilac

People I'm listening to
Everyone else.
Lybydose
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Lybydose

DeathxShinigami wrote:

People I'm not listening to until the end of Day 1
animask, Haneii, Lilac

People I'm listening to
Everyone else.
um...why?
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
animask for his recklessness in every single game I've seen him in.

Haneii cause she jokes too much.

Lilac cause he's being too religious on me.
Lilac
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Lilac
MADOKA IS GOD.
NoHitter
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NoHitter

DeathxShinigami wrote:

animask for his recklessness in every single game I've seen him in.

Haneii cause she jokes too much.

Lilac cause he's being too religious on me.
You should never decide to not listen to someone at any point.
They still may give key insights or show scumtells.
I understand your reason for animask, but not for Haneii and Lila- MB777.

Also guys. Do not post fluff - has nothing to do with the game whatsoever.
Lilac
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Lilac
Hey, if DxS wants to think I'm religious, it's my right to act religious.

...Nah, too lazy. But seriously, fluff is soft. Who doesn't like soft stuff? ^_^
NoHitter
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NoHitter

Haneii wrote:

why not? I find it suspicious that you're suddenly defending animask - from a random/probably harmless vote, no less
Because you should vote people because they are suspicious not because of a policy.
Those weren't random votes on animask. They were "let's lynch animask"s.
I don't like it when meta is used just to lynch someone, and that's what you guys are doing with animask.
NoHitter
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Lilac wrote:

Hey, if DxS wants to think I'm religious, it's my right to act religious.

...Nah, too lazy. But seriously, fluff is soft. Who doesn't like soft stuff? ^_^
It's posts like this that make it harder to scumhunt.
Lilac
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Lilac
That was mean. D:

But I did agree with your previous statement... history is history.
0_o
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0_o

NoHItter wrote:

I don't like it when meta is used just to lynch someone, and that's what you guys are doing with animask.
Could you point out the posts where people are using meta to get animask lynched, because besides this comment from DxS at the beginning of the game I can't find any instances of that.

NoHItter wrote:

Also guys. Do not post fluff - has nothing to do with the game whatsoever.
No offense, but honestly, try to relax a bit. So long as there aren't any long, drawn out, non-game related conversations I don't think it's that big of a deal if there's the occasional fun post, especially on Day 1. This is a game after all.
rust45
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rust45
Fos: DxS
You should never ignore others in this game.
adam2046
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adam2046

Haneii wrote:

D:<

:P
I'm getting mixed signals here...
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
So rust?

Ever thought if it was actually easier to ignore certain users in order to "scumhunt?"

Cause it works for me and now you're starting to seem rather scummish due to your latest actions accusing me of ignoring others.

Apparently other players can't handle playing styles at all now ;)
rust45
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rust45
So what happens when you ignore the scum themselves? You can't scumhunt if you don't listen to them.
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
I still listen to them it's all about weighing in more or less on one another however~
Wojjan
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Wojjan

Haneii wrote:

The mafia is walking amongst us and there's a high possibility we'll end up lynching one of our own before the day is through - and you're here making jokes??!!! D:<
Quaraezha in osumafia 1

Vote: Haneii
Lybydose
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ok, about the Dreaming God: how does he win if he has no alignment?

Also, resetting everyone's votes seems to border on the useless (I know it's a random one each day) since everyone can immediately just revote. What I mean is, I wouldn't be surprised if there were some other hidden effect along with resetting the votes.
0_o
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0_o

Lybydose wrote:

ok, about the Dreaming God: how does he win if he has no alignment?
The role description I posted said no inherent alignment, meaning that it could be assigned to either the town or mafia.
Lybydose
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Ah, so it's something like a roleblocker in that regard then (as in, a roleblocker could be assigned either town or mafia).
LadySuburu
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Posting to say I have limited internet access (PS3 when I do.) until mon/tues. Will check on threads when I do have access but posting is difficult. If someone would pass this message on in the other two threads that would be great.
0_o
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0_o
Alright guys I'm gonna be moving in the next couple days, so I probably won't get a whole lot of opportunities to post. I'll try to keep up as much as I can, but I likely won't be able to be very active til ~1 day before the lynch.

Don't do anything stupid ^_^
Haneii
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Haneii

NoHItter wrote:

Because you should vote people because they are suspicious not because of a policy.
Those weren't random votes on animask. They were "let's lynch animask"s.
Those? So far there has only been one vote against animask and it was random. Small mistake, I know, but mistakes are most likely done by someone trying too hard to look good.

I noticed most of your posts involve you defending others (animask, lily, and me). Don't understand why a townie would need to do so this early in the day (especially before we've gotten serious about who we're voting for). Atm I can only imagine you as mafia who doesn't want to point a finger at anyone yet since you'd rather join a majority vote later on. Because you're required to post regularly you try appear to have the best interest for the town by discouraging us from making rash/dumb decisions.


Also,

NoHItter wrote:

I don't like it when meta is used just to lynch someone, and that's what you guys are doing with animask.

NoHItter wrote:

As much as I would like a policy lynch on animask - considering everything he has done in other games, I do not think that's the right decision for now.
You're quite the hypocrite, aren't you?


Vote: NoHItter
Haneii
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Haneii
EDIT:

NoHItter wrote:

As much as I would like a policy lynch on animask - considering everything he has done in other games, I do not think that's the right decision for now.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
How is that hypocrisy?
I don't want animask to be lynched because of his meta.
I would like a policy lynch on animask yes, but won't push through with it because the only basis would be meta.

Haneii wrote:

I noticed most of your posts involve you defending others (animask, lily, and me). Don't understand why a townie would need to do so this early in the day (especially before we've gotten serious about who we're voting for). Atm I can only imagine you as mafia who doesn't want to point a finger at anyone yet since you'd rather join a majority vote later on. Because you're required to post regularly you try appear to have the best interest for the town by discouraging us from making rash/dumb decisions.
Or I am town and helping by discouraging rash/dumb decisions. Either way, it's WIFOM.
Haneii
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Haneii

NoHItter wrote:

I don't like it

NoHItter wrote:

As much as I would like

:roll:

NoHItter wrote:

Or I am town and helping by discouraging rash/dumb decisions. Either way, it's WIFOM.

Haneii wrote:

Don't understand why a townie would need to do so this early in the day (especially before we've gotten serious about who we're voting for).
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Well now that you've pointed it out specifically:

The first one:
The would like to lynch him because of the confusion he makes in other games, but I'm against it because it would be meta, and I don't like using meta.
Is it clear now?

The second one:
Because if you start too late then Mafia would get a headstart.
Townies usually get mislynched Day 1, but we would like Mafia to get lynched D1.
Haneii
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Haneii

NoHItter wrote:

Well now that you've pointed it out specifically:

The first one:
The would like to lynch him because of the confusion he makes in other games, but I'm against it because it would be meta, and I don't like using meta.
Is it clear now?
It wasn't before? It was pretty straight forward. "I don't like it when meta is used just to lynch someone" - why did you feel the need to explain that to me...

NoHItter wrote:

The second one:
Because if you start too late then Mafia would get a headstart.
Townies usually get mislynched Day 1, but we would like Mafia to get lynched D1.
I'm don't understand how this relates to what we've been discussing right now.
NoHitter
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NoHitter

Haneii wrote:

It wasn't before? It was pretty straight forward. "I don't like it when meta is used just to lynch someone" - why did you feel the need to explain that to me...
Because you were misrepping me with what you said statements and I felt the need to explain it clearly.

Haneii wrote:

I'm don't understand how this relates to what we've been discussing right now.
You asked me why a townie should "do something like that" so early in the game.
I explained it.
Haneii
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Haneii

NoHItter wrote:

Haneii wrote:

It wasn't before? It was pretty straight forward. "I don't like it when meta is used just to lynch someone" - why did you feel the need to explain that to me...
Because you were misrepping me with what you said statements and I felt the need to explain it clearly.
I wasn't "misrepping". And you didn't explain it. You just repeated yourself.



NoHItter wrote:

Haneii wrote:

I'm don't understand how this relates to what we've been discussing right now.
You asked me why a townie should "do something like that" so early in the game.
I explained it.
Oh, sorry. When you said "second one" I thought you were referring to the second quote I had in that post.

Unfortunately my thoughts on that are still the same. It was just too early for it not to be suspicious.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
What's not to understand about:
"I want to lynch animask because I see that he plays badly as town and causes confusion as town, but my only basis of this is meta which I don't like because it is unreliable. Thus we shouldn't lynch animask because of meta."

And yes you were misrepping me. You completely took my statements out of context. Maybe unintentional, but still misrepping.
Haneii
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Haneii

NoHItter wrote:

What's not to understand about:
"I want to lynch animask because I see that he plays badly as town and causes confusion as town, but my only basis of this is meta which I don't like because it is unreliable. Thus we shouldn't lynch animask because of meta."



You want to lynch him (decision based on meta) but you won't (because you don't like decisions based on meta).

Your problem is you don't seem to find anything wrong with this. Let me give you an example of something else and maybe you'll understand my reasoning better.

- I want mint ice cream but I won't order it because I don't like mint ice cream.

Do you now understand what I was trying to point out in your posts?
adam2046
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adam2046

Haneii wrote:

Your problem is you don't seem to find anything wrong with this. Let me give you an example of something else and maybe you'll understand my reasoning better.

- I want mint ice cream but I won't order it because I don't like mint ice cream.

Do you now understand what I was trying to point out in your posts?
- I don't want to eat mint ice cream because I think it tastes terrible even though I haven't eaten it before, but I will try mint ice cream this time to find out how it tastes.
- Based on previous experiences with mint ice cream I don't want to eat it, but this mint ice cream is from a different shop so I will have a go at it.
- The last mint ice cream I had had a hair in it, this has soured my impression of mint ice creams but I am willing to try it again next time.
0_o
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0_o
I think it's more like "I want to eat this entire cake, but I know it isn't a good thing to do so I won't."
adam2046
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adam2046
Man, you're ruining the whole mint ice cream theme.
NoHitter
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NoHitter

0_o wrote:

I think it's more like "I want to eat this entire cake, but I know it isn't a good thing to do so I won't."
This is what I meant. Did I really word it confusingly?
0_o
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0_o
But you can't have too much mint ice cream :(
Wojjan
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Wojjan
I especially love the way how Haneii starts flinging mud at an active pro-town player the moment I vote her.

Fos, Hos and Cannons of suspicion at Haneii.
Mashley
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Mashley
Going to side with Wojjan and Unvote, vote Haneii, because the arguments she is trying to make do not seem to be any kind of scumhunting, but rather attempting to appear active.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu
Haneii has been lynched. Posting scene and results tues. Since the rules say the day isn't officially over until I post the Lynch scene, discussion, ect, are still allowed. Lucky you. (If rules don't say what I just said, they will soon. Can't change votes though sorry.)
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
I believe Haneii's just kicking up a lot of dust in front of NoHItter and use that as a defense to whatever she was "accused of" this page and the last.

Ironic how the player who doesn't like all the fluff in posts ended up leading the discussion with Haneii to be just about fluff. (Thanks NoHItter)

Vote: Haneii
DeathxShinigami
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DeathxShinigami
GOD DAMMIT, ninja'd by a minute.
NoHitter
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NoHitter
OK wtf.
The deadline was in 5 days right?
The day just started 2 days ago.

We didn't have enough votes to hammer either. It was 7 to lynch?
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Haneii was voted by Wojjan and Mashley, which amounted to two votes.
The deadline is still in around 3 days.
Mod: Are you sure you're not mixing this up with your other game?
0_o
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0_o
Time isn't up for the other game either. It seems like either someone is a supervoter, or someone's day kill is disguised as a lynch. Or something else happened, idk. This being host's poison and all it really could be anything.
0_o
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0_o
Perhaps an Executioner variant?
adam2046
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adam2046
It's possible that Haneii can only take a couple votes.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu
I did not mix up the games.
Mashley
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Mashley
Woah shit, that wasn't a good move. But seriously guys, this is as much of a surprise to me as it is to you.
Lybydose
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Lybydose
Remember what I said back a couple pages?

Also, resetting everyone's votes seems to border on the useless (I know it's a random one each day) since everyone can immediately just revote. What I mean is, I wouldn't be surprised if there were some other hidden effect along with resetting the votes.
(bolded part for emphasis).

One reason I said that was because I figured that the Dreaming God's random ability actually had a hidden effect on how votes are calculated. Possibly something like only taking two votes to hammer.
0_o
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0_o

Lybydose wrote:

Remember what I said back a couple pages?

Also, resetting everyone's votes seems to border on the useless (I know it's a random one each day) since everyone can immediately just revote. What I mean is, I wouldn't be surprised if there were some other hidden effect along with resetting the votes.
(bolded part for emphasis).

One reason I said that was because I figured that the Dreaming God's random ability actually had a hidden effect on how votes are calculated. Possibly something like only taking two votes to hammer.
Ohhhhhhhh that actually makes a lot of sense. Good call.
rust45
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rust45
Whatever happened, hopefully we can get some insight at the lynch scene.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu
Procured a quick use of a computer so I can post without taking like 10 min for a short post.

I'm going to allow discussion/day actions (if any) to happen until I gain reliable computer access. Earliest will be tomorrow (If by some chance it happens before tomorrow, I won't end the day until then.). Latest tuesday. Even if something like this happens again for me, I will not give this benefit again. Make use of this one chance to discuss after the lynch, or if you have a day power and haven't used it, to use it even though you normally wouldn't be able to.
LadySuburu
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LadySuburu
A note on the ground reads:

"By my deductions, NoHItter is able to gain the abilities of other players. I haven't discovered the means or to what extent yet. To all who find this, I hope this information is helpful."
Haneii
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Haneii
Looks like my days (lol hours) are numbered. Guess its farewell guys.

Some parting words of advice:

- You guys are reading too much into the Dreaming Goddess role :roll:

- Don't vote for adam (Unless you have convicting evidence against him. It's highly likely he's town so don't wast a lynch on him. Although now that I called you out...good luck fending against the mafia, maybe someone will protect you XD)

- Looks like noHitter's an Absorber. He's still scum

- Wojjan and Mashley are very suspicious. Voting me for "flinging mud" and "attempting" to appear active. I simply voted someone and explained my reasoning (to allow him to defend himself or someone else to correct my logic if I'm mistaken :P).

Bye guys. Go town!!!
0_o
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0_o

Haneii wrote:

Some parting words of advice:

- You guys are reading too much into the Dreaming Goddess role :roll:

- Don't vote for adam (Unless you have convicting evidence against him. It's highly likely he's town so don't wast a lynch on him. Although now that I called you out...good luck fending against the mafia, maybe someone will protect you XD)

- Looks like noHitter's an Absorber. He's still scum
Would you mind expanding on these points a bit? Do you know how you got lynched? How do you know adam is innocent? Do you know NoH is scum or is that just the opinion you drew from your conversation?
Haneii
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Haneii
Sorry, I'm sworn to secrecy (ie: not allowed to further explain it/ tell you how I know)

Although once I'm gone mod will give you more info on my role and you'll hopefully understand :)
adam2046
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Haneii wrote:

- Don't vote for adam (Unless you have convicting evidence against him. It's highly likely he's town so don't wast a lynch on him. Although now that I called you out...good luck fending against the mafia, maybe someone will protect you XD)
Having someone tell everyone not to vote for me without an explanation is kind of creepy...
Haneii
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Haneii
Majority is opinion

Once I...d-die, you'll somewhat understand why I felt strong about my convictions.
Haneii
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Haneii
^ post directed to 0_o
adam2046
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adam2046
Wait...
Where's Quaraezha?
Two_old
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Two_old
I'm just going to vote NoHItter
NoHitter
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@Haneii
You do understand that the role you accuse me of could be town as well?
Note: I'm not claiming because something bad will happen if I do.
Haneii
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Haneii

NoHItter wrote:

@Haneii
You do understand that the role you accuse me of could be town as well?
You do understand that person who wrote and left that note accused you of the role. I just said it "looks" like you're an absorber.

Furthermore, I didn't vote for you based on your role. I called you out as scum long before the note. And you know this, so why bother telling me absorbers can townies too.

The post isn't really for me is it? I think you're trying to remind the others that the role doesn't mean you're scum :p

Anyways, I should write what I think about everyone so far before I go. Have to get to a computer though since typing on phone is torture (oh gawd quoting >_<). I still have time before my lynch scene right?
NoHitter
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NoHitter
Your accusation made it look like you were accusing me because of a certain role.
rust45
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rust45
Well, judging from the note, NoHitter is most likely an Absorber, but the note did not reveal an alignment. For now, I think we should wait to see what happens before passing judgement.
Two_old
620 posts
Joined March 2008
Two_old
Well, I think it's pretty clear that NoHItter is mafia. A pro-town role wouldn't -need- to absorb powers, and put yourself in the hosts position: would you be more likely to give a power absorption role to a role without many powers (mafia), or to a town?
rust45
1,085 posts
Joined May 2009
rust45

Two wrote:

Well, I think it's pretty clear that NoHItter is mafia. A pro-town role wouldn't -need- to absorb powers, and put yourself in the hosts position: would you be more likely to give a power absorption role to a role without many powers (mafia), or to a town?
Good point, especially since in this game everyone has some sort of power. But, actual voting will have to wait till day 2.
Haneii
1,203 posts
Joined November 2009
Haneii
Something has been bugging me guys. Why would the bomb role claim as soon as the game starts? Wojjan, if you really cared for the town wouldn't it be best for you keep quiet and allow the chance for you to get killed. It would kill a mafia member + might give the town some insight?

Why did you role claim?




p.s. I think you're bluffing
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Joined December 2008
Lilac
When she is claiming bomb, there are two things that go in her favour.

One, it tells the Mafia and other people who have Vig roles at night to stay away otherwise, face the consequences.

Two, it shows that Wojjan is aligned with the town and gives her the thought that she is part of the town.

That's probably the reason.
Haneii
1,203 posts
Joined November 2009
Haneii

Lilac wrote:

When she is claiming bomb, there are two things that go in her favour.
Exactly. Role claiming benefits wojjan (gets to stay alive?dunno) and not so much the town.

ofc staying alive is needed to keep the town numbers higher than the mafia - but wojjan was in no danger of being lynched at the time.

I just think that a bomb would try to use their ability to help the town. If there was a chance that they would be lynched (which would be bad for the town) then they have a reason to role claim. Until then, I believe, they should lie low.

From how I see it, either wojjan is bluffing (can still be town, doesn't necessarily mean wojjan's mafia) or just wants to stay alive for the entirety of the game (doesn't really care if the town loses).
Lilac
Elite Mapper
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Joined December 2008
Lilac
Wojjan wasn't trying to protect against a lynch, she was trying to protect herself from a nightkill so she can get past Day 1.
Haneii
1,203 posts
Joined November 2009
Haneii

Lilac wrote:

Wojjan wasn't trying to protect against a lynch, she was trying to protect herself from a nightkill so she can get past Day 1.
Why protect yourself from a nightkill? Your role/ability involves you being killed. If the good chance you get killed by a mafia - a mafia member dies with you and the new death can be used to narrow things down/or make better decisions.

Does keeping yourself alive and withholding your ability help the town in someway?
Lilac
Elite Mapper
1,515 posts
Joined December 2008
Lilac
It protects Vigs from misfiring and dying from Wojjan, resulting in two deaths in the town's side.

But I do admit, claiming Bomb this early doesn't have a real major impact which could mean that Wojjan was claiming for fun or she's not really caring at all.
Haneii
1,203 posts
Joined November 2009
Haneii
So the only reason for claiming bomb...was to protect against the vigilant?

The first post Wojjan makes in this game (practically the very beginning of the game) is to roleclaim bomb...to protect against the vigilant?

Did you know you were targeted by the vigilant? (I guess you can have another role that would make knowing something like that possible, but...)

A vigilant having chosen a target that early in the game doesn't seem so likely.
Haneii
1,203 posts
Joined November 2009
Haneii
I can't spell T_T
0_o
2,155 posts
Joined December 2008
0_o
...I thought Wojjan's roleclaim was a joke?
Haneii
1,203 posts
Joined November 2009
Haneii
Maybe?
NoHitter
osu! Alumni
3,785 posts
Joined June 2009
NoHitter

Two wrote:

Well, I think it's pretty clear that NoHItter is mafia. A pro-town role wouldn't -need- to absorb powers, and put yourself in the hosts position: would you be more likely to give a power absorption role to a role without many powers (mafia), or to a town?
Why exactly wouldn't the mod put an absorber as a town role?

You're set-up speculating - which isn't really advisable in a game like this. Remember, this is a game where the Host picks roles, what you think is fine is not necessarily what the mod thinks is fine.

Set-up spec is ok when it's a semi-open or open set-up, but this is a closed set-up. It may help but it cannot alone be a basis for saying some one is scum.
Wojjan
806 posts
Joined August 2008
Wojjan
My roleclaim was not a joke. It's up to the mafia to decide if they want to risk the gambit.
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
Haneii was sitting on a park bench, enjoying some Mint Ice Cream. All seemed to be going well that day, when suddenly two people jump out at her, screaming "YOU MURDERER!"

Suprised, Haneii swallows a bit too much of the ice cream, and begins choking. After some time the ice cream melts, and a relieved Haneii gets up. Ready, she walks forward to confront her accusations.... and is struck by lightning as a mysterious smoke fills the area.

Haneii - Lynched D1

When the smoke clears, the body is nowhere to be found.

It is now Night 1. Send all night actions within 24 hours. If you do not, the host will get to choose if you use your night action or not, and on whom.
LadySuburu
80 posts
Joined June 2008
Topic Starter
LadySuburu
In the middle of Night, someone stumbles upon the missing body of Haneii.

Haneii - Stalker + Enabler + Commuter + Dreaming God - Town - was Lynched D1.

Night continues, and you feel better knowing who died, but worse because they were innocent.
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