Well we've got to lynch someone, and animasks language to me at least seemed more than a little odd. That statement was more of a badly worded FOS than anything.

Pseudo-voting, eh?

I have been suspicious of DxS and Ph0x since they both posted their ideas of my motives.

So its possible that I will be voting for one of the two.

Also, I just realized that posting anything for information gets people suspicious here.
Then again, I don't think lurking is very fun. What to do?

Sorry animask, your defense isn't cutting it anymore. While you run in circles since you wanted to bring in roleclaiming in day 1 you still have yet to evade your own suspicions as well.

Sounds REALLY fishy especially on the last part of day 1. HM...

Alright, after thinking this through a bit more I think it's time to vote animask. The things he's said just seem so not-town-like, I'm sure someone can explain this better. It just seems a lot of people are waiting for someone to vote, and I guess I'm somewhat 'breaking the ice'.

Vote: Mashley

Siding with the townies too easily.

You must be mafia.

I'm prepared for a bandwagon vote on myself.

If so, I'm roleclaiming.

animask wrote:

I'm prepared for a bandwagon vote on myself.

If so, I'm roleclaiming.

I'm still holding my HoS (Hand of Suspicionon) on animask, because claiming to be a cop/doc would make...

animask wrote:

First, are there any Cops or Doctors here?

this comment look more then nonesense. The impression I'm getting from this looks like a last struggle of a mafia.


Any thoughts on this, everyone?

Oh and about Mashley, I can see where NoHitter is going. However, animask does look suspicious from his comments and his latest one as well. Also, it more or less just looked like a mild (light? lack of vocabulary orz) post of opinion rather then trying to convince us to vote animask right away. I respect your thought, just not the right timing I guess

Wow animask really? Role claiming to save yourself yet you ask everyone to claim cop or doctor at the start of the game?

I'm amazed it's coming to this but I'm holding my vote til the end of Day 1.

Screw this, Day 1 is ending soon.

Without a further adeiu...

Vote: animask

NoHItter wrote:

Although DxS and animask has been kind of suspicious as I've said before. A particular comment for Mashley has been pinging me more.

Mashley wrote:

Siggggghhh I really want to vote animask... not sure if that's because he's genuinely suspicious or just really annoying.

What Mashley said IMO, seems like a preemptive notion to jump on a possible animask bandwagon later. I find this suspicious as townies shouldn't even think of focusing their mind on a single target. Not to mention my gut has jumped on this too.

I can see how you can come to that conclusion, NoHItter. However, I think Mashley's indecision was due to getting mixed messages about animask, not his unwillingness to vote (or a plan to bandwagon later and use that post as reasoning, as you suggest). Not to say you're wrong, of course; I just interpreted Mashley's post differently when I first read it.

DxS, thoughts on this?

animask wrote:

I have been suspicious of DxS and Ph0x since they both posted their ideas of my motives.

So its possible that I will be voting for one of the two.

Can you explain what "posted their ideas of my motives" means? I'm having a hard time understanding that English.

animask wrote:

Also, I just realized that posting anything for information gets people suspicious here.
Then again, I don't think lurking is very fun. What to do?

You play. You may look suspicious for having asked for a claim or two right off the bat. However, that shouldn't stop you from playing the game and doing your best to fulfill your role's duties. TL;DR move on.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

While you run in circles since you wanted to bring in roleclaiming in day 1 you still have yet to evade your own suspicions as well.

I can't understand this statement at all. Can you rephrase it?

animask wrote:

Vote: Mashley

Siding with the townies too easily.

You must be mafia.

(Formatting removed from quote.)

Who exactly are the townies? How do you know he's not a townie being influenced by the mafia? How does "siding with the townies" turn into "must be mafia"?

animask wrote:

I'm prepared for a bandwagon vote on myself.

If so, I'm roleclaiming.

Think for a minute. What would that accomplish? (Trying to help you out here, as you're clearly a newbie player.)

bmin11 wrote:

I'm still holding my HoS (Hand of Suspicionon) on animask, because claiming to be a cop/doc would make...

animask wrote:

First, are there any Cops or Doctors here?

this comment look more then nonesense.

Review animask's (mostly complete) list of scenarios.

iMuffin, you did not yet respond to my question directed at you earlier. You stated a FoS, but do you have anything else to add (especially given his most recent posts)?

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Wow animask really? Role claiming to save yourself yet you ask everyone to claim cop or doctor at the start of the game?

It seems to me you're just looking for an easy and popular vote/bandwagon.

Also, I just realized days are but three days. Seems quite short; I can imagine that being really painful later on. Mod, can you extend Day 1 24 hours? Otherwise, I think players will be very pressured to vote, which IMO will turn out badly at this point. If not, that's completely fine and acceptable.

I also agree with Ph0X with day extention. We need more people to share their thoughts before we vote :<

I rushed cause Day 1 was going to end during my morning when I probably won't be up in time to check everything and make my vote then.

@Ph0x if we get an extension I'll elaborate more.

@Lady Would like an extension as well.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

@Ph0x if we get an extension I'll elaborate more.

Why not now? If we kill you tonight I won't be able to get one.

Ph0X wrote:

DeathxShinigami wrote:

@Ph0x if we get an extension I'll elaborate more.

Why not now? If we kill you tonight I won't be able to get one.

Jeez...not giving me any wiggle room eh? ;p

Well, what I mean about animask is his generic behavior, he went on before he voted for mashley that'll he roleclaim his role if it comes down to him being lynched. Doesn't that just seem fishy?

Also, Mashley just responded the questions the way he responded them and animask is using that to tie into why he's voting for mashley. Just seems evasive to me but who knows.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Well, what I mean about animask is his generic behavior, he went on before he voted for mashley that'll he roleclaim his role if it comes down to him being lynched. Doesn't that just seem fishy?

Yes; I already commented on that. It seems to support more animask being a newb townie not knowing how to play than he being a wreckless mafia member.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Also, Mashley just responded the questions the way he responded them and animask is using that to tie into why he's voting for mashley. Just seems evasive to me but who knows.

I'm really having a hard time understand what you write, DxS... What you just said was pretty tautological.

Day 1 has been extended |48| hours, and the rules for day lengths has been appended.

Due to the change in length of days, all votes have been reset.


This won't happen again, mainly because I'm only doing this so I can change my day length rules for future games right now.

I can sleep in peace!

@Ph0x In the morning I swear, it's just my sloppy typing style.

LadySuburu wrote:

Day 1 has been extended |48| hours, and the rules for day lengths has been appended.

Due to the change in length of days, all votes have been reset.


This won't happen again, mainly because I'm only doing this so I can change my day length rules for future games right now.

Cool; thanks!

Mod: Can you please prod, iMuffin, Quaraezha, and rust?

animask wrote:

Also, I just realized that posting anything for information gets people suspicious here.
Then again, I don't think lurking is very fun. What to do?

Posting information does not make people suspicious of you. In fact, if you contribute lots of information, voice your opinions, etc. chances are, majority of people will see you as pro-town.

Town want as much information as possible to lead into a lynch as lynching is the town's only weapon for killing scum in a newbie game like this, and you want to be as sure as possible that the one you are lynching is scum. That's why information is good, and why town should share info.

Of course, there's a difference between information that would help the town and information that would worsen the town's standing (e.g. Public knowledge of who power roles are at the start of the game).

animask wrote:

I'm prepared for a bandwagon vote on myself.

If so, I'm roleclaiming.

@ bmin11:
That was what animask said. What gave you the idea that he was claiming power role?

Ph0x wrote:

Why not now? If we kill you tonight I won't be able to get one.

I would suggest refraining from making "joke" comments like this. It only confuses town.
(It looks like as if you are mafia and will kill DxS >.>)

My current conclusions with less than 48 hours to go

While I still find animask suspicious with his threat of roleclaiming if he gets closed to being lynched it seems more of a tactical move rather than saving himself and that's why I think he is either town or has an aux role.

I still think everyone is also suspicious on Mashley mostly due to his latest responses and that he'd "kill people" But otherwise I don't have much on him yet.

Gotta admit bmin's getting better at the game and he seems more town due to the nature of his posts. Just saying.

Then there's myself somewhat trapped into giving out detailed yet hard to understand responses (Blame my typing) But I just really want to make Day 1 a bit more smoother than in previous games.

NoHItter with a questionnaire? A tiny bit suspicious but maybe he's pro-town.

Quaraezha's opinion is still a little shaky for me to follow since it's kind of the opposite of everyone else's opinion thus far but maybe he knows something that I don't.

Ph0x is still Ph0x I only have doubts if you really are strager or not ;P

That's all for now.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

I still think everyone is also suspicious on Mashley mostly due to his latest responses and that he'd "kill people" But otherwise I don't have much on him yet.

That's not a good reason to be suspicious of him, he was simply stating what kind of role he liked, I would not cast judgement on the others based on their answers to the questions.

I would give my opinion on all the players but I need to head to school though, but I'll be out early so I'll do it then.

Saying that you prefer a certain role over another is pointless in a game where everything is randomized.
You can't influence what role you get (unlike in PyP. In that case, saying you like a role that kills is like admitting you tried to send in a role who you think could kill)

Quaraezha wrote:

Mashley because his way of posting somehow ressembles from the previous game and he was Mafia.

That's weak, I always post like that.
Anyway animask's been pretty quiet since I voted for him. Seems to me he's trying to wait for suspicion to die down or something. Since we've got another 2 days now I'm going to see what he has to say before I vote again.

rust45 wrote:

DeathxShinigami wrote:

I still think everyone is also suspicious on Mashley mostly due to his latest responses and that he'd "kill people" But otherwise I don't have much on him yet.

That's not a good reason to be suspicious of him, he was simply stating what kind of role he liked, I would not cast judgement on the others based on their answers to the questions.

Good point rust. I like said I have no immediate thoughts on Mashley though (lol hi Mashley ^) Mostly have my FoS on animask though since he's being evasive with his posts but eh.

NoHitter wrote:

animask wrote:

I'm prepared for a bandwagon vote on myself.

If so, I'm roleclaiming.

@ bmin11:
That was what animask said. What gave you the idea that he was claiming power role?

From arguing to be innocent would be the same as claiming to be townie or their side. If he is being bandwagonned, he would need a stronger position to argue back. But from thinking back, after reading what you guys said, I realized it was only my assumption. Good thing I questioned you guys before making an hasty vote.

And again, he could be a bad townie who just made several bad comments. I'll loosen the tight on him for now since we got our 48 hours extention.



I would want to hear iMuffin's opinion as well. When is he coming back :<?

NoHItter wrote:

Mod: Can you please prod, iMuffin, Quaraezha, and rust?

I think only iMuffin isn't participating in this game (as I have asked for his opinion several times to no avail). The other players are doing fine. Also, you're not supposed to prod unless they have not posted within the past 48 hours.

NoHItter wrote:

Ph0x wrote:

Why not now? If we kill you tonight I won't be able to get one.

I would suggest refraining from making "joke" comments like this. It only confuses town.
(It looks like as if you are mafia and will kill DxS >.>)

=D?

Quaraezha wrote:

I don't think animask is Mafia because it is true that he's new to this game.
He may be acting strange, maybe because that's how he thought he could contribute to the community
or that's how he usually is.

animask is just strange.

Quaraezha wrote:

Although it is possible that animask is also a power role and finds it difficult to blend in.
(He can still be Mafia though)

I don't think that's the case. "HEY GUISE NE2 HAS SUPER POWAHZ?" doesn't look at all like an attempt to blend in. I have already concluded that animask was a newbie vanilla townie desperately trying to assist the town.

Quaraezha wrote:

bmin11 because of the posts regarding roleclaims and whatever.

Assuming you are referring to this post by bmin11: I can see where you're coming from, but at the same time, I think it's a reasonable assumption that a player who would roleclaim to save themselves from a lynch would roleclaim a pro-town power role. Besides, bmin11 clearly said "if this then that"; he didn't say "this, thus that". I don't think that's grounds for suspicion.

Quaraezha wrote:

Mashley because his way of posting somehow ressembles from the previous game and he was Mafia.

As Mashley already stated, this is a terrible argument. Have you seen a game in which he was town?

Quaraezha wrote:

I also think Ph0x is townie.

I am flattered. ;P But stay open-minded.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

While I still find animask suspicious with his threat of roleclaiming if he gets closed to being lynched it seems more of a tactical move rather than saving himself and that's why I think he is either town or has an aux role.

I see a bit of WIFOM in this (on animask's part), but whatever. Think what you want. =]

DeathxShinigami wrote:

I still think everyone is also suspicious on Mashley mostly due to his latest responses and that he'd "kill people" But otherwise I don't have much on him yet.

Putting words into people's mouths, eh?

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Gotta admit bmin's getting better at the game and he seems more town due to the nature of his posts. Just saying.

Now I'm more convinced you and bmin11 are Mafia. (Buddying, if you don't see it.)

DeathxShinigami wrote:

NoHItter with a questionnaire? A tiny bit suspicious but maybe he's pro-town.

About that: I think it was pretty much worthless, except that it forced some players to post. I guess it helped in engagement, which is important.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

Quaraezha's opinion is still a little shaky for me to follow since it's kind of the opposite of everyone else's opinion thus far but maybe he knows something that I don't.

From what I saw, they're mostly aligned with my opinions. And of course he knows something you don't: his own role. ;P

Mashley wrote:

Anyway animask's been pretty quiet since I voted for him. Seems to me he's trying to wait for suspicion to die down or something.

Uh... Last post was only 20 hours ago.

I have to go to work soon. I will post my opinions of each player as soon as I can.

Opinion Time!

Mashley
Nothing out of the ordinary to me, hasn't really defended himself, but he seems fine to me.

DxS
His wording is often confusing, and his early attack at bmin just seemed odd and unjustified.

imuffin
Who? He needs to be more active and respond to questions other than the questionnaire.

bmin11
Seems fine in my book, has been talking rather smartly and doesn't seem suspicious, he handled DxS odd attack on him just fine.

rust45
Oh hi.

animask
Has consistently said things that just plain sound odd and I still don't like the whole rolefishing thing.

NoHItter
The questionnaire was odd but doesn't raise suspicion. I don't understand why he asked for prods of Quarazha and I though.

Quaraezha
Seems to be playing just as he was last game, he was mafia then, but I haven't played many games with him so I can't think of anything wrong.

Ph0x
Is he strager or not? Not like it matters, seems to be the best player here.

okay sorry guys I got home a little bit ago and just finished reading everything I promise I'll give more elaboration later but right now i feel absolutely due to irl reasons so i'll get back to you guys on this.

Re: Prodding

LadySuburu wrote:

17. If a player has not posted in 24 hours, I will prod them if requested to do so. That is, it's up to you to ask me to prod a certain player.

I have to leave soon. Will post opinions later.

If possible could we get an exact time on when Day 1 actually ends?

@host: When you mean sunday what timezone and actual time do you mean Day 1 will end?

Sorry if I missed it earlier


unexpected RL plans got in the way so won't be able to post as much as i'd like to for tomorrow.

DeathxShinigami wrote:

If possible could we get an exact time on when Day 1 actually ends?

@host: When you mean sunday what timezone and actual time do you mean Day 1 will end?

Sorry if I missed it earlier


unexpected RL plans got in the way so won't be able to post as much as i'd like to for tomorrow.

5 days from the "deadline is in 3 days" post. Forum time should be displayed in your own timezone.

@ Ph0x I'm understanding why you see animask as pro town but he's really an emotional player which makes it seem either a style base of playing like me or he's really new.

Any thoughts?

I think right now, I would prefer a lynch among either Mahsley or animask.

Suspicions List (as you go lower, you're less suspicious)

Also since this is a newbie game, if you are about to get lynched, claim.

Fine, Coming clean since we have less than 24 hours to go

I bluffed cause I wanted to see if bmin was just messing around during day 1 when we first started. I was just trying to see if he would bandwagon but he hasn't yet and actually knows how to play the game. You can say I just got a little "over reactive" when I made that post against him earlier.

Vote animask as we're approaching the end of day 1 (again) and I have nothing else to go by. Same reason I voted for him previously, of course.

Saving my vote for late once I know who to vote for.

Not stating my current suspicions, but I will say that DxS and Ph0X aren't both included.

First, I think animask is a townie now (ya I might have gotten influenced by Ph0X but whatever). He's posts were short plotted and seem to hold some tension from being accused, not knowing what to do (haven't really defenced himself great nor convincing). This should not be the case if he had a partner to discuss with. If he was a mafia, he wouldn't have driven himself this far behind, unless his mafia fellow was being afk.

DxS? gotta say he does look suspicious. However, he finally told us what he was trying to 'bluff' out from me. His intention to figure if I'm going to bandwagon him is kind of confusing at my stage. However, I understood as a test on friendship. It would be reasonable to me since the friendship factor would play a role between us in this game. My answer is 'no'. This is my first game and I'm looking forward to it. I will do my best to play fair and promise not to be bias. Anyway, since I believe his intention, he got a rank down on my suspicion list (for now).

Right now, my attention is flowing to iMuffin. As I wrote on animask's paragraph; "unless his mafia fellow was being afk", and IF that's true, then I'm thinking of iMuffin as a most likely mafia around here next to animask. He could have intentionaly lurked during the game and as I answered on NoHitter's questionnaire; "I think they are lurking because of their position (cop/doc). It's likely to be a mafia, but I want to wait for the cop to find them first". I do mention about it could be a cop/doc, but I'm getting a hinch of a 'likely to be a mafia'. We could lynch animask or iMuffin to confirm this theory, but because I think animask could be the power role (he did mention about role claiming), I think it's much safer to lynch iMuffin if we are trying to figure out this animask - iMuffin alignment.


HoS on iMuffin and minor FoS on DxS and minorFoS on Mashley (only if animask - iMuffin alignment isn't ture)

By the way, does anyone knows how to check the forum time? I'm still not clear with the dead line orz

bmin11 wrote:

By the way, does anyone knows how to check the forum time? I'm still not clear with the dead line orz

On your post that you just posted, read what time it says it is. For me, I get Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2011 3:10 pm (3 minutes ago) .

Once you look at what it says for you, figure out how far off it is. Then use that to correct whatever time it said on my post back then.

Also, head into Settings and fix your time so you can know always.