I have a feeling bmin's newbie like attitude might just hide his real intentions...
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Acting like a newbie in newbie mafia, we're onto something 
I still think it's pointless claiming to be a cop or a doc right now (and yes, this is my first mafia game)
You saying you're not in the mafia or that I'm not in the mafia?bmin11 wrote:
Wait, wouldn't that be a benefit for the mafia? I think they should just lurk for now
Don't reveal yourself so easily lol
I disagree to your strategy, but not necessarily FoSing you. I'm just pointing out this could end up just benefiting the mafia side
Yes, clearly there's no reason for a cop/doc to claim now, they haven't even done anything yet :\
Yuppers.Mashley wrote:
Yes, clearly there's no reason for a cop/doc to claim now, they haven't even done anything yet :\
animask, FOS on you. Rolefishing right off the bat is pretty scummy.
I'll leave it up to the reader to guess the several scenarios in which animask would rolefish.
Either way, that was a stupid move, animask.
I'm the actual newbie here. Whats FoS?
Not a nice thing to be pointed atLadySuburu wrote:
FoS / HoS.
Finger of Suspicion: I think you're kinda scummy.
Hand of Suspicion: I'm just about to vote you.
Just to weigh in on this, you aren't really defending yourself well bmin and while you seem to want to contribute in on this you end keep saying it's your first game and just end it like that while looking suspicious.
I have my FoS on you now...
I have my FoS on you now...
My intentions were...
1. There's nothing to gain from figureing out cop/doc on the first day. Should have mentioned they have done nothing as well, but Mashley pointed out for me.
2. Mafia would now know who's cop/doc and IF there is a roleblocker, they'll just end up becoming nothing but a towny (Pieguy's case was exactly like this). If there aren't any roleblocker, well I think you guys can figure out the outcomes anyway.
and telling that I'm a newbie was because of your comment
Will you forgive me DxS...?
1. There's nothing to gain from figureing out cop/doc on the first day. Should have mentioned they have done nothing as well, but Mashley pointed out for me.
2. Mafia would now know who's cop/doc and IF there is a roleblocker, they'll just end up becoming nothing but a towny (Pieguy's case was exactly like this). If there aren't any roleblocker, well I think you guys can figure out the outcomes anyway.
and telling that I'm a newbie was because of your comment
That sounded like if you were FoSing me and my answer was "I am a noob if I looked like a noob. If this gave you a bad impression, please understand my lack of experience and don't put me on the dead list because of it". I guess I might have overreacted on that and it did make me look bad ;_;DeathxShinigami wrote:
I have a feeling bmin's newbie like attitude might just hide his real intentions...
Will you forgive me DxS...?
I love messing with you guys~
What just so I can make you squirm as well mafia scum?animask wrote:
I love messing with you guys~
Defense against what? I didn't see him being attacked, and I didn't see him being defensive.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Just to weigh in on this, you aren't really defending yourself well bmin
He ended a post like this only once. He doesn't "keep saying it's [his] first game".DeathxShinigami wrote:
and while you seem to want to contribute in on this you end keep saying it's your first game and just end it like that while looking suspicious.
And mine on you, in addition to animask.DeathxShinigami wrote:
I have my FoS on you now...
So that's how it shall be then~
Day 1 almost always has a lynch with no scummy like evidence however. If anything Ph0x you just saw my bluff and I congratulate you. But you are making the wrong assumption to have FoS on me...but we'll just wait and see...
Day 1 almost always has a lynch with no scummy like evidence however. If anything Ph0x you just saw my bluff and I congratulate you. But you are making the wrong assumption to have FoS on me...but we'll just wait and see...
I'm not sure what you mean. Can you explain this?DeathxShinigami wrote:
Day 1 almost always has a lynch with no scummy like evidence however.
From what I saw, your "bluff" was adding confusion and misinformation to the conversation. That's a scummy thing to do, hence my FoS.DeathxShinigami wrote:
If anything Ph0x you just saw my bluff and I congratulate you. But you are making the wrong assumption to have FoS on me...but we'll just wait and see...
rust45 was lynched day 1 in the previous game hosted by NoHItter. He was town. Yet it was his usage of words that haunted him in the end that got him lynched. Like me, he was one of the first to create a statement so he could get responses back like you did for mine.
With nothing for me to lead on at the end of the first day out of three. I guess we will have to wait and see what other players do in the next hours.
With nothing for me to lead on at the end of the first day out of three. I guess we will have to wait and see what other players do in the next hours.
First of, since RVS is basically harmful now as you can only vote once, let's start of with RQS instead.
Questions:
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
Now about what has happened so far:
FoS: animask for role-fishing this early in the game. You do not want the cop/doctor to out themselves the first day. Only scum would want power roles (cop/doctor) to out themselves, so they can target them for a kill. Oh and for the "I love messing with you guys" quote.
Minor FoS: DxS too. First of all you tunneled bmin with no evidence at all. Then you go around claiming that you were "Bluffing".
Incidentally, can we have less fluff (not related to the game at all) posts? They're really distracting.
Questions:
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
My Answers
1) I prefer roles with interactions with other players outside of the thread - don't care about the faction. Masons, scum, etc.
2) Lurking is a null tell. Mods should replace them. Unless they say that they would prefer to lurk on purpose, and give nothing helpful to town. Doing that is anti-town, and thus a FoS from me.
3) I would use my gut to point to the right direction, and analysis to prove it, but sometimes I can't avoid using more of gut than analysis.
4) No. Meta may be helpful for players with consistent play-styles, but people can change play-styles anytime, therefore I think meta is unreliable.
2) Lurking is a null tell. Mods should replace them. Unless they say that they would prefer to lurk on purpose, and give nothing helpful to town. Doing that is anti-town, and thus a FoS from me.
3) I would use my gut to point to the right direction, and analysis to prove it, but sometimes I can't avoid using more of gut than analysis.
4) No. Meta may be helpful for players with consistent play-styles, but people can change play-styles anytime, therefore I think meta is unreliable.
Now about what has happened so far:
FoS: animask for role-fishing this early in the game. You do not want the cop/doctor to out themselves the first day. Only scum would want power roles (cop/doctor) to out themselves, so they can target them for a kill. Oh and for the "I love messing with you guys" quote.
Minor FoS: DxS too. First of all you tunneled bmin with no evidence at all. Then you go around claiming that you were "Bluffing".
Incidentally, can we have less fluff (not related to the game at all) posts? They're really distracting.
I wouldn't use myself as a reference. I kinda sucked it up in that game.DeathxShinigami wrote:
rust45 was lynched day 1 in the previous game hosted by NoHItter. He was town. Yet it was his usage of words that haunted him in the end that got him lynched. Like me, he was one of the first to create a statement so he could get responses back like you did for mine.
But anyway, rolefishing is certainly suspicious even if you're new. People should know that auxs need to be protective.
FoS on animask for now. Got my eye on DxS as well as he seems to be talking a lot. But he could just be a vocal townie.
Link to that thread, please? I am interested.DeathxShinigami wrote:
rust45 was lynched day 1 in the previous game hosted by NoHItter. He was town. Yet it was his usage of words that haunted him in the end that got him lynched. Like me, he was one of the first to create a statement so he could get responses back like you did for mine.
You making this statement is suspicious. You're stating the obvious, but in a weird way, and in a way which deters attention from yourself.DeathxShinigami wrote:
With nothing for me to lead on at the end of the first day out of three. I guess we will have to wait and see what other players do in the next hours.
Vanilla Townie, because I have little pressure to hide myself and tons of pressure to find scum. =DNoHItter wrote:
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
Not at all. Lurking is an important aspect of Mafia, I believe. It's a play style, so let players choose to lurk if they wish.NoHItter wrote:
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
I pick up clues and build a case about them base on my gut feeling of those clues. Basically, various details creates a tunnel vision for me, and I find excuses to make that tunnel work. ;PNoHItter wrote:
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
I'm fine with using it to bring parallels to games without concerning characters (like DxS did above), but I find it somewhat sketchy if someone defends themselves or attacks another using character meta of themselves or some other player ("this player acted the same way in this other game, and they were scum!").NoHItter wrote:
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
A doctor may want to find out who the cop is to protect them. That's quite a stretch for day one though.NoHItter wrote:
FoS: animask for role-fishing this early in the game. You do not want the cop/doctor to out themselves the first day. Only scum would want power roles (cop/doctor) to out themselves, so they can target them for a kill. Oh and for the "I love messing with you guys" quote.
Hooray, a questionnaire...
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
Anything that can kill... killing is fun :>
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Not immediately, but I would question them.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
Well I guess I try to analyse but I'm a crappy player so it often ends up gut-based
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
I don't use it, but I'm fine if people do.
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
Anything that can kill... killing is fun :>
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Not immediately, but I would question them.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
Well I guess I try to analyse but I'm a crappy player so it often ends up gut-based
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
I don't use it, but I'm fine if people do.
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why? I haven't been many different roles but any that can have an ability besides being a random townie.
2) Would you lynch lurkers? Probably not. Someone who is a bit more outspoken however usually winds up being voted upon by me though.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation? Usually analyze but most of the time I've been wrong when it comes to the end so I use a mix of both.
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference) Helps build character upon later games but usually it's not that important.
2) Would you lynch lurkers? Probably not. Someone who is a bit more outspoken however usually winds up being voted upon by me though.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation? Usually analyze but most of the time I've been wrong when it comes to the end so I use a mix of both.
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference) Helps build character upon later games but usually it's not that important.
Questions:
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
I don't really know how any of the roles work yet.
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Only if some crazy thing with chances and process of elimination comes up.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
Analyze, but since its never really certain I'd have to use my "gut" too.
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
Sounds like something I could use if I've played other games.
Analyzing Myself this feels funnier than you think
Why I would want to scope out for aux roles...
[*] Mafia role. Looking for a good kill on the first turn.
[*] Looking to see which set of roles we have in general.
[*] I could be the Doctor looking for the Cop to protect.
[*] I could be the Cop trying to lure myself while thinking the Doctor will try to protect me.
[*] I could be a townie trying to see if there really is another Doctor/Cop.
[*] I could be trying to seem like a Mafia to protect myself from the real Mafia.
[*] I could be a townie trying to use myself as bait so some aux role can be protected.
[*] I could be the Cop trying to lure in some suspects with my critical first move.
[*] I could be the Mafia-Roleblocker trying to find out who they are and trying to make them think I'm a townie/Doctor/Cop.
Some of these can be flipped for either side.
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
I don't really know how any of the roles work yet.
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Only if some crazy thing with chances and process of elimination comes up.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
Analyze, but since its never really certain I'd have to use my "gut" too.
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
Sounds like something I could use if I've played other games.
Analyzing Myself this feels funnier than you think
Why I would want to scope out for aux roles...
[*] Mafia role. Looking for a good kill on the first turn.
[*] Looking to see which set of roles we have in general.
[*] I could be the Doctor looking for the Cop to protect.
[*] I could be the Cop trying to lure myself while thinking the Doctor will try to protect me.
[*] I could be a townie trying to see if there really is another Doctor/Cop.
[*] I could be trying to seem like a Mafia to protect myself from the real Mafia.
[*] I could be a townie trying to use myself as bait so some aux role can be protected.
[*] I could be the Cop trying to lure in some suspects with my critical first move.
[*] I could be the Mafia-Roleblocker trying to find out who they are and trying to make them think I'm a townie/Doctor/Cop.
Some of these can be flipped for either side.
These are illogical reasons.animask wrote:
[*] Looking to see which set of roles we have in general.
[*] I could be a townie trying to see if there really is another Doctor/Cop.
[*] I could be a townie trying to use myself as bait so some aux role can be protected.
And with the 50% chance that the Mafia has a roleblocker, you're taking a huge risk.animask wrote:
[*] I could be the Cop trying to lure in some suspects with my critical first move.
DxS, you didn't respond to my inquiry.
iMuffin, what do you think about animask's actions?
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
Cop. I like how it's role confirms the innocent and guilty
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Nope. I think they are lurking because of their position (cop/doc). It's likely to be a mafia, but I want to wait for the cop to find them first.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
I...... don't know yet. Right now, I want to be analytic. I've seen townies being lynched due to their (bad) comments
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
I share the same opinion with Ph0X
Cop. I like how it's role confirms the innocent and guilty
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Nope. I think they are lurking because of their position (cop/doc). It's likely to be a mafia, but I want to wait for the cop to find them first.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
I...... don't know yet. Right now, I want to be analytic. I've seen townies being lynched due to their (bad) comments
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
I share the same opinion with Ph0X
Thanks.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Whoops.Ph0X wrote:
DxS, you didn't respond to my inquiry.
Anyways here
Okay. I disagree, but I can see how you (and other players of that game) came to that conclusion.DeathxShinigami wrote:
rust45 was lynched day 1 in the previous game hosted by NoHItter. He was town. Yet it was his usage of words that haunted him in the end that got him lynched.
I don't understand. How were you the first? How was rust45 the first? And what does being first matter? How can you compare yourself to rust45? I don't see any similarities.DeathxShinigami wrote:
Like me, he was one of the first to create a statement so he could get responses back like you did for mine.
Learn from your mistakes from last time.
Don't lynch me on the first turn.
lol I need exp in mafia
Don't lynch me on the first turn.
lol I need exp in mafia
I meant one of the first to dive into the game... <o<
But yeah this hardcore newbie mafia sure is making the atmosphere here hectic...
But yeah this hardcore newbie mafia sure is making the atmosphere here hectic...
Siggggghhh I really want to vote animask... not sure if that's because he's genuinely suspicious or just really annoying.
Do you really like making yourself look more suspicious?animask wrote:
Learn from your mistakes from last time.
Don't lynch me on the first turn.
lol I need exp in mafia
Now it's "one of"? And who cares?DeathxShinigami wrote:
I meant one of the first to dive into the game... <o<
How so? This seems like a normal game to me so far (minus RVS). Maybe it's because I'm making you sweat. ;PDeathxShinigami wrote:
But yeah this hardcore newbie mafia sure is making the atmosphere here hectic...
Fair enough, nothing more to say about my incident then.
May be out for a few days; moving California, USA. Hopefully I can hop on by the weekend.
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
Haven't played enough mafia to really form an opinion, but I like to have some sort of an ability.
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Only if they don't respond to questions asked.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
I kinda suck, but I try to analyze, but go mainly with gut.
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
I don't care really, as long as it not used a crutch for an argument.
Haven't played enough mafia to really form an opinion, but I like to have some sort of an ability.
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Only if they don't respond to questions asked.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
I kinda suck, but I try to analyze, but go mainly with gut.
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
I don't care really, as long as it not used a crutch for an argument.
I completely agreePh0X wrote:
These are illogical reasons.animask wrote:
[*] Looking to see which set of roles we have in general.
[*] I could be a townie trying to see if there really is another Doctor/Cop.
[*] I could be a townie trying to use myself as bait so some aux role can be protected.
Sorry for being inactive.
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
[Townie]
I find it difficult to blend in when I'm Mafia.
Also to convince others when I'm a Power Role.
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Maybe, but based from my experiences, the ones who lurk are, most of the time, Power Roles.
Otherwise, they're Mafia or Townie.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
Mostly on my guts, but I try to understand the situation too, since that's important.
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
It protected me in the previous Mafia Game (by NoHItter)
It also ended up me being lynched (as Mafia)
So it's pretty useful.
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
[Townie]
I find it difficult to blend in when I'm Mafia.
Also to convince others when I'm a Power Role.
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
Maybe, but based from my experiences, the ones who lurk are, most of the time, Power Roles.
Otherwise, they're Mafia or Townie.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
Mostly on my guts, but I try to understand the situation too, since that's important.
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
It protected me in the previous Mafia Game (by NoHItter)
It also ended up me being lynched (as Mafia)
So it's pretty useful.
sorry i'm posting so late, been kinda busy anyway first things first.
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
my favorite role would have to be a doctor because i like the feeling i get when a night kill is unsuccessful because of me.
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
if they had no good reasons to lurk? then yes.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
I'll go with my gut on the first day usually but after that i really start paying attention to what everyone is posting.
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
I believe it can be used but it is to be used with discretion because some people act differently in every game
and also FoS on Animask for day 1 role fishing and a minor FoS on NoHitter and DxS NoHitter because of the questionnaire seems just a bit suspicious(even though i answered it lol) and DxS because he seems to be saying alot of confusing nonsense sometimes.
1) What is your preferred/ favorite role and why?
my favorite role would have to be a doctor because i like the feeling i get when a night kill is unsuccessful because of me.
2) Would you lynch lurkers?
if they had no good reasons to lurk? then yes.
3) In lynching people, do you use your gut mostly, or do you analyze the situation?
I'll go with my gut on the first day usually but after that i really start paying attention to what everyone is posting.
4) Do you believe in the usage of meta? (Basically using other games as a reference)
I believe it can be used but it is to be used with discretion because some people act differently in every game
and also FoS on Animask for day 1 role fishing and a minor FoS on NoHitter and DxS NoHitter because of the questionnaire seems just a bit suspicious(even though i answered it lol) and DxS because he seems to be saying alot of confusing nonsense sometimes.
RQS (a.k.a. the "questionnaire") helps start discussion. Especially since we shouldn't RVS. No changing of votes FTL.
The deadline around 30 hours from now (which is very near). I think we need to tally the votes soon.
As opposed to just chucking the votes and not being able to change them, I suggest we tell first who we want lynched. (Sort of a pseudo-voting)
Although DxS and animask has been kind of suspicious as I've said before. A particular comment for Mashley has been pinging me more.
Therefore, I would like to have Mashley lynched.
The deadline around 30 hours from now (which is very near). I think we need to tally the votes soon.
As opposed to just chucking the votes and not being able to change them, I suggest we tell first who we want lynched. (Sort of a pseudo-voting)
Although DxS and animask has been kind of suspicious as I've said before. A particular comment for Mashley has been pinging me more.
What Mashley said IMO, seems like a preemptive notion to jump on a possible animask bandwagon later. I find this suspicious as townies shouldn't even think of focusing their mind on a single target. Not to mention my gut has jumped on this too.Mashley wrote:
Siggggghhh I really want to vote animask... not sure if that's because he's genuinely suspicious or just really annoying.
Therefore, I would like to have Mashley lynched.
Well we've got to lynch someone, and animasks language to me at least seemed more than a little odd. That statement was more of a badly worded FOS than anything.