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The Killers - Human

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Topic Starter
Remco32
This beatmap was submitted using in-game submission on zaterdag 24 april 2010 at 15:12:45

Artist: The Killers
Title: Human
Tags: EMA eee
BPM: 135,51
Filesize: 30207kb
Play Time: 03:24
Difficulties Available:
  1. eee!!! (4,9 stars, 467 notes)
  2. Hard (3,77 stars, 343 notes)
  3. Normal (2,89 stars, 285 notes)
Download: The Killers - Human
Download: The Killers - Human (no video)
Information: Scores/Beatmap Listing
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Thanks Lardo & eee
Added a background for the no-vid'ers
GladiOol
[Normal]
00:13:664 - 00:14:105 (1,2,3) - Use distance snapping 0.8x like you used before.
00:15:208 (4) - Wrong spacing.
00:18:738 - 00:19:399 (4,5,6,7) - And this is 0.9x .. make all 0.8x distance snapping (?) otherwise it'll get too random.\
00:24:473 - 00:25:135 (1,2,3,4) - etc.

You really should fix it up and make it one, clear, distance snapping.
Topic Starter
Remco32
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foulcoon
You'll need to compress the video. Inherit those timing sections if they arent actual changes, because they look like theyre just for sample changes.

Download: lol - wut (poisonchan) [Hard].osu
Topic Starter
Remco32

foulcoon wrote:

You'll need to compress the video. Inherit those timing sections if they arent actual changes, because they look like theyre just for sample changes.
I'm working on the video.
But what is wrong with new timing sections, that are just for sample sound volume changes?

EDIT: Video is fixed, i think
GladiOol
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Topic Starter
Remco32
00:51:326 (4) - 1/2 earliër + 1/2 longer (?)
I like it more how it is now
Maybe if a BAT agrees with you, I would fix it

Fixed your other suggestion
GladiOol
Fine map just some little things
1/4 Earliër,, not 1/2! (00:53:982, 6) <-- from my earliër post.

[Normal] ^
01:54:645 (3) - 1/2 later, and then also shorten it 1/2.
02:01:509 (3) - spacing issue.
02:19:664 (8) - Finish hitsound (?)
02:23:427 (5) - spacing issue.
02:51:987 (10) - new combo (?) or atleast some where in that part.
Try shorten the last break, and spicy the ending up.
It's a really boring ending now (spinner, stack, spinner, stack) and that after a 15+ sec. break.
foulcoon

Remco32 wrote:

But what is wrong with new timing sections, that are just for sample sound volume changes?
They make the timing shift and are unnecessary, just check the inherit previous timing box so that it will ONLY modify the hitsounds.
Topic Starter
Remco32
02:19:664 (8) - Finish hitsound (!!!!)
Yes, that sounds great :D

I'm fixing the rest ATM.
Then I'll be working on hard.

EDIT: Updated
Topic Starter
Remco32
It's done.
Now I need some BATs..
Topic Starter
Remco32
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Larto
BAT added. <3

All difficulties:
When you add sample/volume changing timing sections: DON'T PLACE THEM DIRECTLY ON NOTES! If you do, if you click a TAD too early, you get the wrong sample.

Normal:
00:36:71 (1) - Boring long slider
00:39:81 (2) - ^
00:59:29 (3) - Sounds better starting 1/2 later.
01:01:06 (4) - Stack perfectly with 3's end
01:25:86 (6,7) - I usually don't mod hitsounds but this is ear rape
01:50:66 (3) - Boring long slider
02:10:14 (4) - 1/2 shorter and place 1/2 later.
02:30:07 (1) - Long boring slider. AND it would sound better ending 1/1 earlier.
02:38:04 (4) - Stack perfectly with 3's end
02:41:58 (6) - Stack perfectly with 5's end
03:05:05 (1) - Boring long slider
03:08:59 (2) - ^
03:17:67 (1) - ^
03:22:76 (2) - ^
03:45:12 (3) - Sounds better ending 1/2 earlier.
03:52:21 (3) - ^

Hard:
00:09:03 (7) - End 1/4 later
00:34:72 (1) - Long boring slider
00:39:81 (7) - ^
01:19:44 (6,7,8) - Too close to 5's end
01:30:07 (7) - Too close to 6. Also, that slider sounds awkward.
01:50:66 (6) - Long boring slider orz
02:00:62 (3) - Make slider a bit more symmetric
02:02:17 (7) - ^
02:03:28 (1) - Slider sounds awkward
02:06:82 (1) - Long boring slider
02:10:14 (3) - ^
02:30:07 (1) - Long boring slider
02:31:84 (2,3) - Stack exactly with 1's end.
02:33:17 (4) - Long boring slider
03:13:02 (6) - Maybe stack with 4's end
03:18:55 (2) - Long boring slider.
03:22:76 (3) - Long boring slider. Also, end it 1/2 earlier.




You don't have to fix the long boring sliders, though.

Yes, I added this at the end of the post so maybe you already fixed this <3

Starred
Topic Starter
Remco32
I like my long boring sliders T_T
*fixing
Topic Starter
Remco32
Added a BG
Larto
All diffs:
00:34:499 - I just noticed, the section here sounds better with Soft sample.


Hard:
00:26:08 (2) - Stack exactly with 1's end
00:28:30 (4) - 1 Level 3 grid to the left
00:30:07 (4) - 1 Level 3 grid to the right
01:19:44 (6,7,8) - Too close to 5
01:30:07 (7) - Slider sounds awkward.
02:02:17 (7) - Slider SO UNSYMMETRIC
03:11:03 (1) - Fuck, this is a SLIDER IN HITCIRCLE FORM. PLEASE REPLACE THAT WITH A HITCIRCLE THANK YOU. It would be too close to 2 anyways.

Normal:
Nothing, i just hate the design.
Topic Starter
Remco32
Done, thanks for hating :)
GladiOol
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Topic Starter
Remco32
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Topic Starter
Remco32
Bump~
Yuukari-Banteki
starred cus it needs priority and has already been starred~
eee
hi
quick heads-up
here's just some acknowledgements
and (?) this means I'm not sure, you check which sounds better
ALL
I think the BPM should be 135.512, I know it's not that much of a problem, but the offset kinda was, move it to 6,824. I find my BPM/Offset by listening for umphs, and that's how it sounds here, forward the map and give it a listen, you will get a cool, umph, umph, umph. . . . where your beats land on correct beats, it can be slightly off, but it is much closer on what you had before, imo.
-BREAKS: I found a couple places on hard, so I'll just post in all so you can look, places like 01:01:510 or 00:30:625, like I said on the other map I modded, probably renew the break, unless it is intended to look like ouendan/eba, cause it does add a cool sense of imagery, if so, just don't do anything :D

Normal
01:35:82 (4) - I do not know what to say about this, this is a weird looking slider :P
01:54:86 (3) - blue tick again? maybe end on next tick, the red one
02:22:31 (4) - this slider is funny
02:27:40 (4,5,6,7,8) - if you're mapping to the words, move this two 1/4 ticks forward to the white, then remove (8) I guess
02:42:677 - nothing wrong here, I just like what you did :D like the samplesets and hitsounds
03:16:105 - 03:17:434 - you wanna try to map something here, cause you have the awesome sampleset changes, and it feels lonely, maybe you could delete it if you don't use it.
03:54:62 (1) - end this 03:57:061 to match with hard, or vice versa, end hard where this ends

Hard
00:19:00 (3) - end this on the red tick, well, here 00:19:222
01:33:16 (4,5,6,7,8,9) - idk, you might want to move this up one grid (lever 3 that is), so it is aligned with 01:32:72 (3), ya know
01:46:00 (5) - you can probably add a finish hitsound here too, so both finish (?)
01:55:41 (5) - probably move this forward to red tick (?) and add a note here 01:55:301 (x) to even things out ^^;
02:37:91 (5) - same here ^, think is, I have a problem with blue ticks, even if they are singing to it, I did keep some, but those are still questionable, and I really can't help with mapping to anything over 1/4 beat divisor
02:42:677 - nothing wrong here, I just like what you did :D like the samplesets and hitsounds
03:11:235 - add a note here (?)
03:14:11 (7) - New Combo (?)

I like it overall, and it deserves a star
Topic Starter
Remco32
Fixed, thanks eee
Topic Starter
Remco32
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Topic Starter
Remco32
Bump
Sir Minelli
Hello,


~Comments here are not final decisions, you can always decide by yourself~



Please place all of the timing sections that change audio style, normal/soft, two ticks before the beat, not on top of the beat. So if player's accidentaly click the beat too soon, they wont get the previous timing section sound.


[Normal]

00:15:90 (5,6) - reput on top of slider's end
00:17:45 (1) - make slider's end face (2)
00:22:98 (2,3) - perfectly allign with slider's end
00:39:81 (2) - new combo
00:59:51 (3) - new combo. Do you really want this slider end there? I'd say end it the same as the previous
01:19:43 (6) - put on top of fading (4), move the slider below so it points it afterwards
01:20:98 (1) - allign with fading (8)
01:29:40 (5) - try moving this up and to the right so this pattern forms like a cirle because when playing i find it too linear
01:40:24 (5) - new combo
01:50:65 (3) - new combo
02:03:27 (5) - new combo, 02:05:48 (1) - undo new combo, 02:06:81
(1) - new combo and allign with fading (3)
02:10:35 (4) - new combo. I keep thinking this slider is too long and eats some vocals, id take away but that's up to you
02:17:88 (6) - new combo
02:21:86 (2) - allign it with (4)
02:23:86 (6,7) - instead of this two, put a slider with returning arrow
02:26:73- This needs a beat
02:33:15 (2) - new combo, 02:36:70 (2) - undo new combo, 02:40:24 (4) - new combo
02:45:77 (5) - new combo
02:50:64 (7) - new combo, 02:51:97 (1) - undo new combo
02:58:83 (2) - move this one square diagonally up to the left
03:08:57 (2) - new combo
03:14:11 (6) - new combo
03:22:74 (2) - new combo
03:45:10 (3) - allign with (2)


[Hard]

00:22:32 (4,6,7) - when playing, these appear to be upper than (3) and (5), so move 4,6, and 7 one square down and then test.
00:29:40 (1,2,3,4) - allign with previous pattern
00:36:71 (2) - new combo
00:39:81 (7) - new combo
00:44:45 (6) - slider under (5) = ugly
00:49:77 (2) - move one square to the left
00:51:32 (5) - move slightly up with shift so it alligns previous slider
00:59:29 (5) - new combo
01:19:43 (6,7,8) - move up a tiny little bit with shift so they perfectly allign with 01:18:33 (5)'s end
01:31:61 (2) - this slider looks ugly
01:32:72 (3) - reput on top of slider's end
01:40:24 (4) - new combo
01:42:01 (1) - put on top of fading slider's end
01:44:89 (1) - allign with slider's end
01:50:65 (6) - new combo
02:02:16 (7) - allign this slider's end with its beginning. Do that by taking away distance snap, and shifting it
02:04:93 (5) - move this to the next white tick
02:10:13 (3) - new combo
02:17:88 (6) - new combo
02:33:15 (4) - new combo
02:50:20 (7) - new combo
02:53:74 (4) - new combo
03:01:49 (2) - new combo
03:11:45 (3) - allign with (2)
03:11:90 (4) - reput on top of slider's end
03:22:74 (3) - new combo
03:45:10 (3) - allign slider's beginning with its end
03:52:85 (2) - allign with slider's end
03:54:62 (3) - new combo


I trully liked the song. The beatmap is really nice, good job.
Topic Starter
Remco32
Updated
Gens
Hi

[Overall]
Please consider moving all the Inhereted sections 1/4 before so the wrong sampleset isn't accidentally used while playing.
Oh, also Kiai Time. It's up to you though.
EDIT: Oh, also, place a cool preview point.

[Normal]
00:59:51 (3,4) - Not properly stacked.
You can stack a note in a slider by using Distance Snap 0.0x and Grid Snap Off.
01:19:43 (6) - Not snapped to the Grid? Maybe not noticeable while playing tho.
02:05:48 (5,6,7) - It doesn't sounds good D: (with Normal and Soft sampleset mixed)
02:23:85 (6,7,8) - Shouldn't this be illegal? I mean, it's not cool :< (Same sliders stacked) You could horizontally flip the first one, and everything's good. :D


[Hard]
01:25:41 (2,3,4,5,6) - Stack really messes up spacing while playing
01:26:30 (6,7) - Not properly stacked.
03:11:90 (4) - ^
03:15:88 (7) - Uuh nitpick 1 Grid to the right


I don't like how the map follows the lyrics only... There are some really big blank spaces you could map. But hell, that's just my opinion, don't mind me~
You get my star. :D
Topic Starter
Remco32
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foulcoon
((BPM / 60) * 1000) / 4 = x

select all inherited sections at once and move by -x ms ;P

(P.S. if thats wrong i should quit life)
Topic Starter
Remco32
Manual editing it is...
EEeee
Nooooooooooooooooooo, this song was awesome,

if ur not mapping it or planning to, lemme know so I can map it
Topic Starter
Remco32
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mattyu007
Try not to use the report function to have your map revived. A post in the thread indicating that you would like the map revived is usually enough..

Anyways moved to help
EEeee
naw, I don't think I have time, just u, get this map ranked ^^
Topic Starter
Remco32
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eee
Topic Starter
Remco32
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Ryuukun
Re size the video please.
Its to big and the solution is too great.

Offset 6.810

[Normal]
All - Renew all breaks
00:59:51 (3) - let this slider end on the earlier white tick. 01:00:39
01:54:85 (3) - Suggestion: set this slider on the next red tick 01:55:08 and put a circle on its former starting point.
02:10:35 (4) - let this slider end on the earlier white tick. 02:11:24
02:17:88 (6) - let this slider end on the earlier red tick. 02:18:54

[Hard]
All - Renew all breaks
00:59:29 (5) - let this slider end on the earlier white tick. 00:59:95 and put a circle on its former end. 01:00:17
01:26:30 (6) - let this slider end on the earlier red tick and put a circle on its former ending point. 01:26:74
01:50:65 (6) - set this slider end on the earlier red tick. 01:51:53
01:51:75() - add circle
01:51:98() - add circle
01:52:20() - add circle
01:52:42() - add circle
01:52:64() - add circle
02:06:81 (1) - let this slider end on the earlier white tick. 02:07:68
02:07:92() - add circle
02:08:14() - add circle
02:10:13 (5) - let this slider end on the earlier white tick. 02:11:24
02:11:46() - add circle
02:11:68() - add circle
02:30:05 (1) - let this slider end on 02:30:72
02:30:94() - add circle
02:31:16() - add circle
02:31:38() - add circle
02:31:60() - add circle
02:31:82 (5) - delete circle
02:33:15 (7) - let this slider end on the earlier red tick. 02:34:04
02:34:48() - add circle
02:58:39 (1) - let this slider end on the earlier white tick. 02:59:05
02:59:28() - add circle
02:59:50() - add circle
02:59:72() - add circle
02:59:94() - add circle
03:01:49 (6) - let this slider end on the earlier white tick. 03:02:15
03:02:38() - add circle
03:02:60() - add circle
03:03:04() - add circle
03:03:26() - add circle
03:03:48() - add circle
03:20:31() - add circle
03:54:62 (3) - let this slider end on the earlier white tick. 03:55:73

looks much but i simply used the pattern you used in this song.

[eee!!!]
All - Renew all breaks

have a star
Skyripper
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Topic Starter
Remco32
Finished fixing normal. Hard will be fixed later, when I have more time.
EDIT: k, done. Need to fix the video file size when I'm back at home.
Sleep Powder
Timing feels off in some areas...its probably the BPM...

[Normal]
01:25:19 (3) - Spacing is a bit off
02:44:00 (2) - Take out whistle at the end
03:15:88 (7) - Why are there so many inherited timing sections here? you don't need those extra ones
03:47:98 (3) - Delete

[Hard]
00:16:12 (5) - Vertical align with 3?
00:19:44 (4) - Just make this one slider with no repeats?
00:50:87 (4) - Delete 1 repeat?
01:44:01 (2) - Make the inherited timing section on the red tick to the right instead?
02:58:39 (1) - End with a finish instead?
03:01:49 (2) - ^ and no whistle on 3
03:22:74 (3) - New Combo?
03:24:51 (4) - Re-add Break
03:56:39 (1) - Extend to next white tick?

[eee]
01:36:92 (2,3) - Spacing is wrong...
01:41:35 (11) - New Combo?
03:08:13 (14) - No clap
03:15:22 (5) - Finish the ending?
Topic Starter
Remco32
Updated my difficulties.
Andrea
[Timing]

Offset fine, bpm use 135,50 better imo. And resnap notes.

[Normal]

Video is too big and makes lag...

00:30:733 - Delete this break, and add again.
01:19:43 (6,7) - Spacing.
01:31:17 (7,8) - This claps are out of place imo...

Lower normal sounds please.

This is a long map... for a normal. I mean the lenght.

[Hard]

00:30:733 - Replace break...
01:01:730 - ^

Final pause is too long...

[eee!!!]

Fine.

Star'd :)
Topic Starter
Remco32
I don't really see the problem with the video. It doesn't have a that large resolution, and if I'm going to cut the quality, it will look like a crappy YouTube video.
Also; updated
eee

animask wrote:

[eee]
01:36:92 (2,3) - Spacing is wrong... I grew up on the rule "New Combo When Spacing Changes," I understand that this is not spaced, but I'll have to wait for a second opinion
01:41:35 (11) - New Combo? sure
03:08:13 (14) - No clap k, not so good at hitounds
03:15:22 (5) - Finish the ending? guess so, sure
UPDATE :D , eh, should be -_-

Download: The Killers - Human (Remco32) [eee!!!].osu
mrtn
try offset 6814

[normal]
fine =)

[hard]
almost all 1/4 triples are really out of place. Listen closely to the rhythm ;)

[eee!]
01:17:44 (1,2,3,4) - don't like this jump
01:36:48 (1,2,3,1) - confusing spacing
eee
Topic Starter
Remco32
Updated
Mogsy
Revived.
Mafiamaster
Didn't see anything =P
Lissette
Suggestions!

Normal
00:21:20 (1) - start point at 00:21:42, end point just where it is
01:50:64 (3) - start at next white tick
02:10:34 (4) - end point at 02:11:23
03:22:73 (2) - start point at 03:22:95, end point at 03:23:84
03:24:73 (3) - move to the red tick before
03:54:39 (1) - end point at 03:56:38

Hard
00:09:02 (7) - start this slider in the note before, end point just were it is
00:44:44 (6) - same
02:10:12 (3) - move to the next white tick
03:22:73 (1) - start point at 03:22:95, end point just where it is
03:54:61 (3) - start point at 03:54:83, end point just where it is

nice map, nice song :)
have a star
Topic Starter
Remco32
Thanks, updated!
L-Lawliet_old
Why, Throw this beatmap a way, Realy the beat it's almost perfect if you set it back to pending i think it wil be ranked, Plz set it back to pending =)


Here is a star from my
Topic Starter
Remco32

L-Lawliet wrote:

Why, Throw this beatmap a way, Realy the beat it's almost perfect if you set it back to pending i think it wil be ranked, Plz set it back to pending =)


Here is a star from my
Wow, this map graveyarded?! :?
brb calling a BAT
Larto
:D
GladiOol
- General / All diff's.
  1. Video is way to big. The file now is 29,5 MB~
  2. eee!!!'s diff's offset is wrong, make that also 6814.
- eee!!!.
  1. (nazi) 00:32:094 (14) - Move this note one grid level up and one grid level to left. (Grid level 3 / Most precise)
- Hard
  1. All good
- Normal
  1. Lower Drain Rate and Overall Difficulty by one, since this is the easiest diff.
Starred~
Topic Starter
Remco32
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Mashley
Normal
00:50:204 (3) - This note feels really out of place and bleh. I'd prefer to see it moved 1/1 forward and respaced.
00:59:503 (3) - Ending should be 1/2 earlier.
01:33:595 (3) - Remove one reverse
01:50:863 (3) - The spaces before and after this slider feel so empty. Could you pleeease put something there?
03:05:026 (1) - ^
03:17:645 (1) - ^
01:54:848 (3) - Start 1/2 later
03:22:958 (2) - Ending should be 1/2 earlier.
Streams in this difficulty are a bit much. I'd like to see an Easy, please.

Hard
00:24:524 (1) - Ending should be 1/2 earlier.
01:50:642 (4) - The spaces before and after this slider feel so empty. Could you pleeease put something there?
03:01:484 (2,3) - ^
02:38:018 (5) - Remove finish

eee!!
01:10:793 (1) - Baaaargh this jump is unintuitive
01:55:402 (5) - Move it 1/4 later

ITT Remco fails badly at getting his map ranked.
Topic Starter
Remco32
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Jarby
You didn't fix the video. The with video .osz is still 29.5 MB. Set offset to 171, this fixes the metronome. Set preview point at 01:46:434. Kiai is inconsistent on all difficulties. Use it at all or none of the choruses.

Normal:

00:51:311 (4) - Not liking this jump one bit.
02:30:048 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - A break here might be a good idea. If not, at least add new combos, this part is long.

Hard:

01:42:451 (1,1,1) - Remove new combo.
02:28:056 (8,9,10,11,12) - So very cruel.

eee!!!:

A spinner from 01:01:716 - to 01:03:487 - would be lovely. The break isn't necessary anyway.
03:16:096 - Tiny break aaaaaaaaaa
Topic Starter
Remco32
02:28:056 (8,9,10,11,12) - So very cruel.
Hows that..?

Added a spinner in eee's diff, I hope you don't mind it ;)
Updated the map, gonna try to shrink the filesize of the vid now.
eee
umm
I re-adjusted my difficulty, added some of the spacing changes I changed before, but now I disagree with those mods, so, now they're back. I have no problem with the changes you made on my map, btw, they're fine.

Download: The Killers - Human (Remco32) [eee!!!].osu
eee
Maybe I should mod too :/
  1. Add eee to tags :3
  2. Set a Preview Point in [Hard], I'm not sure where you want it, but I guess the one JarJar suggested is good (which is where I put my "new" one, if you disagree, change the one in mine)
  3. some notes in [Hard] and [Normal] are not snapped, resnap (on 1/4, of course) I guess :/
+more starz
Topic Starter
Remco32
Updated
Doomsday
Oh hey, its a Killers map.

Blue = design/minor issues. you do not have to change these if you don't want to
Orange = moderate issues. it would be best if you change these, but you may be able to get away with not changing it
Red = major issues. you need to change these

  1. Timing looks good
  2. No source. Isn't there an album name or something you could put there?
  3. You should add a few more tags. I'm sure theres more you could put there
  4. Even though Normal has less than 3 stars, it still looks too hard for the easiest difficulty. Make an easy?
[NORMAL]

03:19:858 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5) - I don't like all this overlapping. you should spread it out instead.
03:20:965 (7,1) - This jump makes no sense to me. Its near-impossible to read too with all that overlapping. You should remove it.

[EEE!!!]

Why does this have a different offset than Normal? The offset for normal (171) feels better, so I'd use that.

01:51:527
(3) - I don't have any problems with this personally, but others might not like that overlap here.
03:18:531 (1) - This only just hits +2000. Thats fine, but I'd prefer it if it was a little longer (I'm not keen on short spinners :()

This is probably my favourite map of yours eee. Good job.

Nice map. osu! needs more of The Killers :)

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Hard.. disappeared..?
Hmm, I hope I have it on another computer, or someone else still has it...
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03:20:965 (7,1) - This jump makes no sense to me. Its near-impossible to read too with all that overlapping. You should remove it.
I don't see a jump?

Also fixed the offset op eee's dif.
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