Ephemeral wrote:

not worth 50 dollars

worth maybe 20 or 30 but not 50 dollars

sorely disappointed in the end product after so much hype over it. i hope this hasn't pushed ep3 back too much.

Coming from someone who paid 60$ for bf2 and cod (and sc2 iirc)? k.

Ph0X wrote:

Ephemeral wrote:

not worth 50 dollars

worth maybe 20 or 30 but not 50 dollars

sorely disappointed in the end product after so much hype over it. i hope this hasn't pushed ep3 back too much.

Coming from someone who paid 60$ for bf2 and cod (and sc2 iirc)? k.

seeing that you actually looked at his game list to find something to criticize him on

afaik, those came from friends

Ph0X wrote:

Ephemeral wrote:

not worth 50 dollars

worth maybe 20 or 30 but not 50 dollars

sorely disappointed in the end product after so much hype over it. i hope this hasn't pushed ep3 back too much.

Coming from someone who paid 60$ for bf2 and cod (and sc2 iirc)? k.

those weren't worth 60 bucks either derp

If Portal 2 isn't worth $50, I don't know what is.

It's over, mankind is finished.

Howmany chapters does Portal 2 have?

Loginer wrote:

It's over, mankind is finished.

Does it contain spoilers?

Remco32 wrote:

Does it contain spoilers?

Nope, early first chapter.

Remco32 wrote:

Howmany chapters does Portal 2 have?

Nine.

Loginer wrote:

It's over, mankind is finished.

I hate her. So. Much.

At least I am not that dumb.

I'm just dumb.

Also, solo completed. I just need to finish co-op with Loginer. (He's doing all the work)

Solo completed. Am I the only one who thinks the new cubes by Wheatley are horrifying? I hate it when they stare at me when I pick them up.

JInxyjem wrote:

Solo completed. Am I the only one who thinks the new cubes by Wheatley are horrifying? I hate it when they stare at me when I pick them up.

You're not.

Also, weak bhop FTW.

Just finished it. Best game I played in a long time.
10/10 - GOTY

I didn't need to check Eph's profile to know what he plays, I used to have him on friends and make fun of him playing those crap every day.

Also, if we're still gonna argue if games are even worth that much money, and argue about if we should pirate games, just try comparing the price of a game to the price of other things.

A dinner outside can be anywhere from 5 to 15$. A hair cut, from 10 to 25$. A movie in theater is 10-20$.

I paid 40$ for portal2 (preorder + 2pack) and considering the 6hour single player and the 5 hour coop, I'd choose that over 3 movies in theater or eating outside 4 times any day of the week.

And also, let's not forget that with Valve games, there's a lot more that will come later from the community.

We just love getting shit for free and pirating is cool, but honestly, it really is a good deal. And if you really want to be a dick about it, you can just wait a couple week and it'll definitely drop to under 30$ in a couple months.

Look at portal being given to everyone for free, or TF2 going for 2.50$. That's where Valve is different. It's been almost a year since it's release and sc2's price hasn't even gone down by a single penny. Same for CoD, BF2 and all of the other crappy generic 60$ games.

Portal 1 -The cake is a lie

Portal 2 - The deer is a lie

Ph0X wrote:

I didn't need to check Eph's profile to know what he plays, I used to have him on friends and make fun of him playing those crap every day.

Also, if we're still gonna argue if games are even worth that much money, and argue about if we should pirate games, just try comparing the price of a game to the price of other things.

A dinner outside can be anywhere from 5 to 15$. A hair cut, from 10 to 25$. A movie in theater is 10-20$.

I paid 40$ for portal2 (preorder + 2pack) and considering the 6hour single player and the 5 hour coop, I'd choose that over 3 movies in theater or eating outside 4 times any day of the week.

And also, let's not forget that with Valve games, there's a lot more that will come later from the community.

We just love getting shit for free and pirating is cool, but honestly, it really is a good deal. And if you really want to be a dick about it, you can just wait a couple week and it'll definitely drop to under 30$ in a couple months.

Look at portal being given to everyone for free, or TF2 going for 2.50$. That's where Valve is different. It's been almost a year since it's release and sc2's price hasn't even gone down by a single penny. Same for CoD, BF2 and all of the other crappy generic 60$ games.

You obviously know nothing about how the games industry works.
Companies aren't automatically THE BEST EVER if they give away free stuff. It's just a marketing scam to reel you in, giving you an INCOMPLETE game and making you pay for hats and stuff - content that SHOULD be FREE - to get the full experience.
Portal was pretty good, but it definitely wasn't a full game. For that, you need to BUY Portal 2, and then pay EVEN MORE for the content they PURPOSELY omit so you can actually get something a drunken half-dead Asian would call a "game".
You complain about DRM in Games for Windows Live and Battle.net, but you're completely fine with the OUTRAGEOUS DRM that Steam forces you to undergo? That's retarded. Steam's DRM is a million times worse than anything any other company has tried, yet you keep buying their UNFINISHED, BROKEN games and you keep praising them as if they're the fucking messiah of video games.
Starcraft 2 has a decent-sized campaign, and AMAZING multiplayer battles. When you but SC2, you're buying about 6 games worth of entertainment for only $60. Same with CoD and BF: the single-player modes may appear short, but keep in mind you're gonna have to play them at least 8 times to get full prestige, and then the multiplayer content - which changes with EVERY match - is about ten times as large. Suddenly, $50 sounds like a fucking bargain - way better than anything Valve has to offer.
Also, the original Half-Life, Valve's leading franchise, is actually nothing more than a simple model swap of CoD2, and that's what they made the Source engine with. Basically, EVERY VALVE GAME IS COPIED FROM CALL OF DUTY.
Learn to research shit, you fucking hipster.

Neo@lex wrote:

You obviously know nothing about how the games industry works.
Companies aren't automatically THE BEST EVER if they give away free stuff. It's just a marketing scam to reel you in, giving you an INCOMPLETE game and making you pay for hats and stuff - content that SHOULD be FREE - to get the full experience.
Portal was pretty good, but it definitely wasn't a full game. For that, you need to BUY Portal 2, and then pay EVEN MORE for the content they PURPOSELY omit so you can actually get something a drunken half-dead Asian would call a "game".
You complain about DRM in Games for Windows Live and Battle.net, but you're completely fine with the OUTRAGEOUS DRM that Steam forces you to undergo? That's retarded. Steam's DRM is a million times worse than anything any other company has tried, yet you keep buying their UNFINISHED, BROKEN games and you keep praising them as if they're the fucking messiah of video games.
Starcraft 2 has a decent-sized campaign, and AMAZING multiplayer battles. When you but SC2, you're buying about 6 games worth of entertainment for only $60. Same with CoD and BF: the single-player modes may appear short, but keep in mind you're gonna have to play them at least 8 times to get full prestige, and then the multiplayer content - which changes with EVERY match - is about ten times as large. Suddenly, $50 sounds like a fucking bargain - way better than anything Valve has to offer.
Also, the original Half-Life, Valve's leading franchise, is actually nothing more than a simple model swap of CoD2, and that's what they made the Source engine with. Basically, EVERY VALVE GAME IS COPIED FROM CALL OF DUTY.
Learn to research shit, you fucking hipster.

Wow, I hadn't seen it from that point of view. You're completely right, and you've convinced me. Thank you for opening my eyes Neo, and sorry for being so stupid before.

Disregard that, I read Wikipedia wrong.

Love and peace.

does someone want to be my pirated portal 2 co-op partner? ;_;

Bought Portal 2 for around $30 in a retail store.
Still installing atm. Should I go co-op or single first?

NoHItter wrote:

Bought Portal 2 for around $30 in a retail store.
Still installing atm. Should I go co-op or single first?

Single player. Co-op could spoil some things.

Don't even try Neo. Ph0x is a fanboy and doesn't give a shit about opinions of others. And he seems to be a little prick who can't afford video games anyway. Sure, Portal 2 is a great game but there are downsides: Loading times everywhere, not much content (at least some challenges would've been nice), unnecessary in-game store and the puzzles weren't really challenging.

Nharox wrote:

unnecessary in-game store

I agree with this, but I still love this game.

Nharox wrote:

Don't even try Neo. Ph0x is a fanboy and doesn't give a shit about opinions of others. And he seems to be a little prick who can't afford video games anyway. Sure, Portal 2 is a great game but there are downsides: Loading times everywhere, not much content (at least some challenges would've been nice), unnecessary in-game store and the puzzles weren't really challenging.

You're being sarcastic, right?

Loginer wrote:

You're being sarcastic, right?

No. Don't get me wrong, I love this game. The graphics, music and gameplay is amazing but that stuff mentioned before bugs me.

i still insist that portal 2 was not worth the 50 dollars i spent to get it.

what >I< spent to get it. simply because I think something is not worth as much as you do means jack shit in the grand scheme of well, everything. i just honestly think that the thing i experienced was not worth the price i paid to get it. why even try to refute my opinions by pinning them to the stuff i've played previously, like that is some sort of justification for taking offense to having different opinions than you over something

the loading screens were incredibly irritating, thank god my machine is beefy enough to reduce them to about 10s a pop - i feel sorry for the poor fuckers with lower end machines playing that. the core gameplay was about 3-4 hours in duration, the puzzles were only mildly challenging in parts and what little content there actually was found itself stretched out beyond belief imo

i just wish the puzzles actually required some thought like the first one. i'm pretty shit at puzzle games (read: intensely shit) and still found portal 2 an utter cakewalk - that is how glaringly obvious most of the solutions to the chambers were. nothing was really ambiguous like some things were in the first one.

was it entertaining overall? yes. is it a good game? certainly. is it game of the year? it's fucking april you stupid cunts.

Nharox wrote:

Loginer wrote:

You're being sarcastic, right?

No.

Ah.

Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooosh.

Nharox wrote:

Loading times everywhere,

Agreed.

Nharox wrote:

not much content (at least some challenges would've been nice)

I finished the story mode in 8 hours, and the co-op should last for 4 hours. That's 12 hours, and you could go secret hunting if you'd like that. It's not like it would be fun if the story mode would've lasted 20 hours. Some extra puzzles would be nice, though.

Nharox wrote:

unnecessary in-game store and the puzzles weren't really challenging.

I totally agree with the store. Is it even possible to get the items aside from the in-game store?
Personally, I was OK with the difficulty. I've been stuck a couple of times, but I was able to complete the game without looking up the solution on the internet.

Nharox wrote:

Loginer wrote:

You're being sarcastic, right?

No.

He's just jelly because I used to give me opinion in the SC2 thread and everyone was getting mad at me for giving comprehensive arguments as to why it's a shit game not worth the money. He just wants to take a revenge.

Remco32 wrote:

Nharox wrote:

Loading times everywhere,

Agreed.

Nharox wrote:

not much content (at least some challenges would've been nice)

I finished the story mode in 8 hours, and the co-op should last for 4 hours. That's 12 hours, and you could go secret hunting if you'd like that. It's not like it would be fun if the story mode would've lasted 20 hours. Some extra puzzles would be nice, though.

Nharox wrote:

unnecessary in-game store and the puzzles weren't really challenging.

I totally agree with the store. Is it even possible to get the items aside from the in-game store?
Personally, I was OK with the difficulty. I've been stuck a couple of times, but I was able to complete the game without looking up the solution on the internet.

Boo fucking hoo, 10 second loadings.

Also "was able to complete without looking online"? Really? does that mean it's too easy because you didn't have to cheat it? I think the difficulty was perfect. Enough to get you thinking for a bit and get you satisfied for solving it, but not so hard that you rage quit and go look online.

Ph0X wrote:

Remco32 wrote:

I was OK with the difficulty. I've been stuck a couple of times, but I was able to complete the game without looking up the solution on the internet.

Also "was able to complete without looking online"? Really? does that mean it's too easy because you didn't have to cheat it? I think the difficulty was perfect. Enough to get you thinking for a bit and get you satisfied for solving it, but not so hard that you rage quit and go look online.

That's what I said

Ephemeral wrote:

was it entertaining overall? yes. is it a good game? certainly. is it game of the year? it's fucking april you stupid cunts.

Eph sums it up well.

I borrowed it off a good friend (reeeaally good friend) and yes I can't deny it was entertaining and exciting but after completing the game you come to realise how simple it actually was. It really does lack the substance and content that featured in the first game. I knew this would happen, as it does with most games that introduce multi in the sequel. Honestly, for me it's not worth anymore than $20 which is what I deduced after playing it for half a week. It's good for a giggle, but the first one surely offered more giggles.

My torrent is 60% done... not buying yet because it probably won't even run. Honestly I think I'll end up buying a new PC for this game (and because I need one generally).

Got this on the 21st for the PS3 and planning on linking it to my PC Steam account, but since PSN is down for days now I just said screw it and I'll play it on the PS3 first. Been occupied with the co-op with my brother on splitscreen and man it's easily one of the best co-op games out there. Played as Atlas and my bro as P-Body. The gestures are pretty cute and funny, and loved GLaDOS' remarks & intimidations during the game especially when failing or taunting her.

All of the chambers were pretty fun especially the last set of chambers with the gels, throughout all of them took us a good time of thinking. One of my favorites is where one had to handle a funnel/beam while the other had to use a bridge as a shield against turrets, and even the critical timing puzzles didn't end up frustrating and managed to be enjoyable.Ending for co-op was pretty Pixar-ish which is pretty cool even though I was expecting some super boss behind the vault. Took us roughly 7-8 hours I think, most of us got stumped on the non-lab chambers especially on the Hard-Light Surfaces and pretty much the finale chamber. Just gotta love on how the game makes you you're about to give up and then suddenly both of you and your partner gets a sudden brainstorm hivemand and get the idea on what to do and just go oooooooooh, finally get a satisfying job well done and proceeding to the next chamber.

Only thing that's kinda silly or negative about it is the less seamless loading screens this game has compared to previous Valve games like Half-Life or the original Portal. The dynamic cute and artsy loading screens especially being related to the next chamber/period of chamber or the co-op robots' design is neat and all, but I would had preferred the old blurred out loading screen, and as well as how they're placed out. After all, Valve innovated seamless loading in the first place and it's rather a step down on how they did this time. Plus the whole in-game store is rather unnecessary, I know they're all cosmetics, optional and Valve just doing business to gain some extra income from rich bastards/idiot actually willing to shell out $5-10 on hats. But it's still kinda annoying, and hopefully Portal 2 won't suffer TF2's "trading for all my vintage for an unusual plz plz" every single minute in co-op.

Haven't even finished solo yet (rather only played through chapter 2 lol) and it's already for sure going in my top 10 games of 2011. And considering the SDK and shizz, both co-op and single in this will most likely last for me a while even through Skyrim, Mass Effect 3 and Battlefield 3's release. Also hoping for free DLCs like advanced Portal chambers like the first one.

I should open SDK and check if I can make something fun for Portal 2.

Possibly getting a new CPU tomorrow... Portal 2 here I come!

Ph0X wrote:

He's just jelly because I used to give me opinion in the SC2 thread and everyone was getting mad at me for giving comprehensive arguments [...]

"Comprehensive arguments" my ass. You keep complaining about the $60 price tag, that's it. And sorry that my opinion doesn't reflect yours.

Anybody here played the singleplayer twice?

LunaticMara wrote:

I should open SDK and check if I can make something fun for Portal 2.

SDK isn't out yet.

Nharox wrote:

Ph0X wrote:

He's just jelly because I used to give me opinion in the SC2 thread and everyone was getting mad at me for giving comprehensive arguments [...]

"Comprehensive arguments" my ass. You keep complaining about the $60 price tag, that's it. And sorry that my opinion doesn't reflect yours.

Anybody here played the singleplayer twice?

It would really help if you knew how to read.


Also, Portal 2 DLC coming out this summer.

I read about this on multiple news site but none of them really talked about this thing I found the other day. When hacking my way to playing singleplayer maps in coop with a friend, a strange GUI appeared on my friends screen which showed "Your team's score" and "Other team's score". And my team score would go down every time one of us died.

Are they working on some sort of competitive portal2? Deathmatch? speedrun? Who knows, they're apparently gonna announce it in a week or two, and they said there will be more comics and shit. Oh and by DLC, for those console fags, I mean free content for all you whiners.

Ph0X wrote:

LunaticMara wrote:

I should open SDK and check if I can make something fun for Portal 2.

SDK isn't out yet.

Oh. Please tell me, when there is one.

Ph0X wrote:

It would really help if you knew how to read.

It would really help if your posts would be worth reading. Chat rooms are back, they will add LAN and so on but why should I even bother talking with a butthurt fanboy.

This thread is so full of snobbery it hurts.