since this is a keyboard thread, I guess we can talk about keyboard layouts. so, have you guys tried other keyboard layouts besides qwerty?
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I saw a guy who brought his Dvorak keyboard with him during a meetup and got to try it.Winnyace wrote:
since this is a keyboard thread, I guess we can talk about keyboard layouts. so, have you guys tried other keyboard layouts besides qwerty?
Obviously I can't type sufficiently with it, and I can't be bothered to learn the layout.
I'm just too used to Qwerty.
Edit: Also, I don't really think that the speed improvement in typing would be worth it to learn Dvorak. If you can already type fast with QWERTY then I don't really think learning Dvorak would improve your speed by that much.
Not to mention the only good thing about Dvorak is with typing. Using it as a daily driver would suck since now the keys are in a different location, windows or even mac shortcuts are much harder to use.
For example Crtl C, v and z on Dvorak are very far from each other so you either have to reach further or have to use 2 hands in order to use them.
Not to mention gaming on that thing lol.
I see. since my typing speed is quite bad and I'm a massive hipster, I did try out Dvorak, but I got too used to Qwerty.
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Oh yeah, not to mention, you type quicker with Dvorak since it puts all the letters that are used the most in the middle row.
That works well in English, however if you translate that to other language, it doesn't hold up.
So yeah, depending on the language you type, it won't really be faster than QWERTY and might actually be even slower.
That works well in English, however if you translate that to other language, it doesn't hold up.
So yeah, depending on the language you type, it won't really be faster than QWERTY and might actually be even slower.
Current collection: OTD 360c, TGR Jane v2 ce, HHKB pro 1, FLX Virgo, Dolphin v3
I've owned like 20+ kustoms/customs in the past
I've owned like 20+ kustoms/customs in the past
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Yeah, I wish I'm rich enough to own that many lol.Nikolai wrote:
Current collection: OTD 360c, TGR Jane v2 ce, HHKB pro 1, FLX Virgo, Dolphin v3
I've owned like 20+ kustoms/customs in the past
Just gotta have connections to not worry about fcfs group buys or get in private onesTad Fibonacci wrote:
Yeah, I wish I'm rich enough to own that many lol.Nikolai wrote:
Current collection: OTD 360c, TGR Jane v2 ce, HHKB pro 1, FLX Virgo, Dolphin v3
I've owned like 20+ kustoms/customs in the past
switches: logitech gx blues
keyboard: logitech g pro
sounds:
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Aesthetics wise, I think I like it._ralsei wrote:
switches: logitech gx blues
keyboard: logitech g pro
sounds:
It looks pretty clean, but the top bezel looks a bit out of place because of how thick it is.
But overall, not a bad looking board.
Build quality wise, not much to talk about. Metal mounting plate yadi yadi yada.
It's what you'd expect from a standard mechanical keyboard.
The keycaps looks fine. Although it uses a square looking font so it doesn't look as good as a normal font. Well, at least it doesn't use a cyber font and try to be hip and cool.
But from what I see, they looks like your standard lazered keycaps so they won't last very long I reckon.
I did a quick Google search for the switches since I've never heard of them before. But I think it's just another Cherry MX blue clone.
Assuming they're like Cherry blues, I think they're not bad but I don't really like them. The tactility is a bit on the weaker side and the sounds that those switches produce is pretty unpleasant.
They sound plasticky, rattly and high pitched.
They're the type of switches that you can instantly recognize through voice chats and such lol.
By the look of it, this board uses the German layout or the QWERTZ layout. It also uses an ISO enter key. I personally likes ISO enters better than ANSI enters since I sometimes miss while trying to hit the enter key while using ANSI enter. Although, ISO keyboards usually shortens the left shift key to make space for the missing key. And since I type exclusively with the left shift, this would be an disadvantage for me. But yeah layout is subjective, even more so than switch feel so I won't lower it's score for that.
I think the better way to do it would be putting the missing key where the windows key would be, or to split the right shift key and put it on the right of the right shift.
Overall, an okay keyboard. 5.5/10
I noticed something very odd with my GMMK while playing osu today. I noticed that while my RBG is on, I have a weird chord splitting effect, as if my polling rate is really trash. I then tested it without RGB on, and the effect is gone.
these pictures are from the first 100 combo of the same map.
for some reason, the RGB on this keyboard seems to affect the polling rate somehow? it's very odd. As soon as I turned my RGB off, I instantly got a lot better acc on ColdTooth's new map. went from high 97% - low 98%, all the way up to 99%+ acc.
these pictures are from the first 100 combo of the same map.
for some reason, the RGB on this keyboard seems to affect the polling rate somehow? it's very odd. As soon as I turned my RGB off, I instantly got a lot better acc on ColdTooth's new map. went from high 97% - low 98%, all the way up to 99%+ acc.
i remember someone on G&R posting something similar.Penguin wrote:
I noticed something very odd with my GMMK while playing osu today. I noticed that while my RBG is on, I have a weird chord splitting effect, as if my polling rate is really trash. I then tested it without RGB on, and the effect is gone.
these pictures are from the first 100 combo of the same map.
for some reason, the RGB on this keyboard seems to affect the polling rate somehow? it's very odd. As soon as I turned my RGB off, I instantly got a lot better acc on ColdTooth's new map. went from high 97% - low 98%, all the way up to 99%+ acc.
community/forums/topics/1154270
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Welp, another reason to not use RGB lol.Penguin wrote:
I noticed something very odd with my GMMK while playing osu today. I noticed that while my RBG is on, I have a weird chord splitting effect, as if my polling rate is really trash. I then tested it without RGB on, and the effect is gone.
these pictures are from the first 100 combo of the same map.
for some reason, the RGB on this keyboard seems to affect the polling rate somehow? it's very odd. As soon as I turned my RGB off, I instantly got a lot better acc on ColdTooth's new map. went from high 97% - low 98%, all the way up to 99%+ acc.
finally, a proper mech keyboard to post here. It's a Fuhlen M87S TKL Keyboard
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Aesthetics wise, it looks okay I suppose.Meguro wrote:
finally, a proper mech keyboard to post here. It's a Fuhlen M87S TKL Keyboard
I like the shape of the case. Looks pretty non aggressive and clean.
The lock lights on the right side of the board looks a bit out of place though, I don't know how I feel about that.
Build quality is similar to most keyboards posted in this thread. About what you'd expect from a modern mechanical keyboard.
The keycaps from what I found are made out of ABS doubleshot, so they're very durable and the legends will never fade away. However, the font they used for this board is fuck ugly.
It's a combination of the cyber gamer font and the stenciled font.
It kinda ruined the board sleek aesthetics imo.
Switches wise, from what I found it only comes will Cherry MX blue clones. I'm not sure which manufacturer made them but tbh it doesn't really matter much since they feel virtually the same and they all sound very annoying. You can recognize their infamous sound from a mile away.
The board is pretty meh, but I guess on the bright side, it's dirt cheap. You can get it for only $30 from the sites that I've found them on. So I guess that's the board's biggest strength, although you don't get a lot of choice in switches.
Overall, an okay keyboard. 5/10
PS: I've also noticed the scroll lock and pause break buttons are damaged and warped. Looks kinda like cigarette marks to me. Although this isn't inherent to the board so I'm not gonna lower it's scores because of that.
aight tad, how would you rate my new keyboard
look, it has lights now
look, it has lights now
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Hmm I can't find the exact model on Google so I'll need additional info before I judge it.Hydreigon wrote:
aight tad, how would you rate my new keyboard
look, it has lights now
probably a standard rubber dome keyboardTad Fibonacci wrote:
Hmm I can't find the exact model on Google so I'll need additional info before I judge it.Hydreigon wrote:
aight tad, how would you rate my new keyboard
look, it has lights now
looks like it's made of plastic
i think it's just one of those cheap "gamer" keyboards
you can judge by that i suppose
https://www.fantech.com.ph/product/fantech-k511-hunter/Tad Fibonacci wrote:
Hmm I can't find the exact model on Google so I'll need additional info before I judge it.
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Goddamn, a fullsize keyboard that weighs only 600 grams.Hydreigon wrote:
https://www.fantech.com.ph/product/fantech-k511-hunter/Tad Fibonacci wrote:
Hmm I can't find the exact model on Google so I'll need additional info before I judge it.
Aside from the obnoxious lights, I don't see anything special about it.
3/10
Edit: Even though I rated this board the same score as your last keyboard, I think your last board is a better board overall since it looks less obnoxious.
Oh boi seemingly I'm not the only one that has his desk covered in a sheet of a similar pattern.Hydreigon wrote:
aight tad, how would you rate my new keyboard
look, it has lights now
Logitech G710+:
Corsair K95 RGB Platinum:
Corsair K95 RGB Platinum:
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Well, about time you post those keyboards.abraker wrote:
Logitech G710+:
Aesthetics wise, the board doesn't look very good tbh.
I found that it costs over $200 brand new, but it looks kinda like a cheap membrane gamer keyboard not gonna lie. It doesn't have that premium look that other keyboards at that price point has.
The shape of the case looks really weird and reminds me of rubber domes in the 90s when they were trying to design boards that looks different and came up with fuck ugly keyboard case shapes.
The huge amount of buttons everywhere makes the board looks busy also. Normally, I love boards with lots of buttons, but this one looks kinda too busy and cramped. Not very elegant.
The G710+ logo on top of the nav keys in white font looks pretty obnoxious also.
Build quality wise, from what I found, is the same as most modern mechanical keyboard. Not excellent, not horrible.
I can't find anything about the keycaps, but they looks like lazered caps to me.
They also use a squared off gamer font which looks pretty ugly. But at least they aren't as ugly as those cyber fonts that every one and their mother used back in the 2010s.
Switches wise, again I can't really find much about which switches that they can come with. But I have managed to find 2 versions of the board, one uses Cherry MX blues and the other Cherry MX browns.
You can tell by the colored bezel section on the left.
Well about Cherry MX browns, in short, they're dog shit.
Feel wise I actually prefer a rubber dome board over Cherry MX browns. At least rubber domes are actually tactile.
The tactility on MX browns are literally weaker than the haptic feedback you get on your mobile phones I found. Yes, their tactility is weaker than the fake tactile feed back that your phone can provide you.
So I guess Cherry MX Browns are for people that hates tactility but doesn't want to use a linear switch.
This board comes with a lot of media keys, which can be quite useful tbh. Especially the volume wheel on the right.
It also has 6 programmable macro keys. That are advertised as can be programmed "on the fly".
If the advertisements were to be believed, then that's a pretty solid feature.
Macros are really nice to have, both in gaming and for work.
But I'm still pretty skeptical about it, since there are so many boards with macro functions that are advertised as can be programmed "on the fly" actually requires you to have their dedicated app installed and running in the background to use the macros.
Overall, a pretty overpriced but fairly ugly board.
5.5/10
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Aesthetics wise, I think this board looks okay.abraker wrote:
Corsair K95 RGB Platinum:
It has that edgy gamer look to it. A bit showy, but overall not a bad looking keyboard.
Build quality wise, again, typical for modern mech keyboards.
The keycaps are made out of ABS plastic, coated in black paint and then lazered.
This makes for very sharp legends on the keycaps, but those caps are not very durable and can wear down after only a few weeks of use.
They also attracts dirt, dusts, hand oil and fingerprints like crazy, making the board looks pretty disgusting pretty quick, only after a few hours of use.
The spacebar is textured for some reason, I have no idea why it's the case since I don't think fingers slipping off spacebars is a huge problem.
Guess they're just there for aesthetics purposes.
Switches wise, these boards can either come with Cherry MX Browns or Cherry MX speed silver.
Although you said that the switch stems has a white/grey color in the VC so I guess that this board in particular is using speed silver switches.
They're light linear switches with a higher actuation point than normal switches.
The actuation point is at 1.2mm instead of 2mm like most other MX switches.
The travel is also shortened from 4mm of normal Cherry MX switches to 3.4mm.
The weighting is still the same as cherry MX reds, around 45g of actuation.
All these factors for a very hyper active switch that can actuate with just the weight of your finger.
I already have so many mistypes while using Cherry MX reds, so I definitely cannot use these switches.
Even while playing video games, I keep pressing buttons when I don't mean to and it takes a while before I can get used to it. Though I still didn't like them.
Typing on them is a nightmare, my average typing speed on them is like 40 to 50 wpm because of all the mistakes I keep getting because of how hyper active they are.
Features wise, this board has a volume wheel and some media buttons, which are pretty nice tbh.
It also has 6 macro buttons, however they cannot be programmed on the fly.
You'll need the app to assign macros to them. But at least you don't have to have the app in the background to use the macros.
However, their app, "iCue" I think it's called is fucking dogshit.
It's several hundred Mbs of storage space and it drains CPU while running in the back ground.
Worst yet, it disables all Corsair devices if you shut it down, and you have to unplug and replug your device to use them again.
I used to have a Corsair mouse and I was using that mouse while I borrowed a Corsair board to use and that app drives me fucking insane.
I uninstalled that app after a few days.
Overall, an okay keyboard.
5.5/10
I bought some glorious pandas a while back when they were on back-order and they finally arrived today! I only bought a 36-pack since these switches are damn expensive, so I only installed them for the letters and a few mods. I didn't lube them up because I am lazy. Maybe sometime in the future.
I haven't used them for too long yet, but all I can say so far is that I enjoy tactile switches a lot more now. The only type of tactile switch that I had used before this were Gateron browns, and oh boy, they were shit. It is a night and day difference between browns and pandas. Browns essentially feel like linears, but sticky. "Real" tactile switches are actually what they say they are... tactile.
Overall, I'm really enjoying these new switches. I really want to buy and try out so many more switches now.
I haven't used them for too long yet, but all I can say so far is that I enjoy tactile switches a lot more now. The only type of tactile switch that I had used before this were Gateron browns, and oh boy, they were shit. It is a night and day difference between browns and pandas. Browns essentially feel like linears, but sticky. "Real" tactile switches are actually what they say they are... tactile.
Overall, I'm really enjoying these new switches. I really want to buy and try out so many more switches now.
Dell SK-8110. Haven't used it for a while and didn't bother cleaning for the pic, so ignore that. It has a PS/2 end which should tell you how old it is lol.
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Noice.Penguin wrote:
I bought some glorious pandas a while back when they were on back-order and they finally arrived today! I only bought a 36-pack since these switches are damn expensive, so I only installed them for the letters and a few mods. I didn't lube them up because I am lazy. Maybe sometime in the future.
I haven't used them for too long yet, but all I can say so far is that I enjoy tactile switches a lot more now. The only type of tactile switch that I had used before this were Gateron browns, and oh boy, they were shit. It is a night and day difference between browns and pandas. Browns essentially feel like linears, but sticky. "Real" tactile switches are actually what they say they are... tactile.
Overall, I'm really enjoying these new switches. I really want to buy and try out so many more switches now.
Yeah, although I haven't tried Glorious pandas before, if they're anything like Holy Pandas then yeah, they're much better than Gat browns.
They're at least are actually tactile.
Although, I guess almost anything would be better than MX brown switches lol.
Also, I heard that T1 switches and Oreo switches are Holy Panda types switches as well, but they're no where near that ridiculously expensive.
You can get some of those to fill in the spots where you're using Gat browns to try them out to see if you like them.
Looks like an old rubber dome keyboard to me. Nothing special about it.abraker wrote:
Dell SK-8110. Haven't used it for a while and didn't bother cleaning for the pic, so ignore that. It has a PS/2 end which should tell you how old it is lol.
The dirt and dust isn't inherent to the board and I'm sure it can be cleaned up quite easily.
You think you could get the lowest ranking with that? Hah!
You underestimate me abraker.
I've tried boards that are actual piss shit fucking wank stain before.
3/10
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Also, even though I grouped all rubber dome office keyboards into one ranking, I'm sure not all of them are the same.
For example, I've experienced using a really bad one in my previous part time job.
It was just like any other rubber domes but the stabilized keys are so poorly stabilized. They bind all the fucking time and it's infuriating to type with that board.
Even the spacebar - which usually would be the most stable key, isn't stabilized properly and binds just like the others. It fucking drives me insane typing on it.
My boss even asked me why was I typing so slowly since I wrote in my CV that I can type in English relatively quickly lol.
So yeah, if you want your board to score lower, you'll gonna have to give more reasons why I should rank it lower than others since I can't really come and feel each and everyone's keyboard.
For example, I've experienced using a really bad one in my previous part time job.
It was just like any other rubber domes but the stabilized keys are so poorly stabilized. They bind all the fucking time and it's infuriating to type with that board.
Even the spacebar - which usually would be the most stable key, isn't stabilized properly and binds just like the others. It fucking drives me insane typing on it.
My boss even asked me why was I typing so slowly since I wrote in my CV that I can type in English relatively quickly lol.
So yeah, if you want your board to score lower, you'll gonna have to give more reasons why I should rank it lower than others since I can't really come and feel each and everyone's keyboard.
if you think that was my actual attempt, that was just me testing the waters. The one next is gonna be the real deal. Tune in next week.
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Hmm interesting.
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/797724597721890818/797724639782371328/video0.mov
Edit: second photo not showing so here is link https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/discord/797724597721890818-797725051825684521-image0.jpg
It was like a 20 dollar blue swotch keyboard my brother bought me for christmas like 3 years ago
Also, it is 1am and i didnt have sleeves to cover my noodle arms sorry you had to see that. I was also scared to type so sorry I typed so slow 
Could I also get a seperste rating for my diy uwu pencil holder?
Could I also get a seperste rating for my diy uwu pencil holder?
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Goddamn, please clean your keyboard from time to time.Ashton wrote:
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/797724597721890818/797724639782371328/video0.mov
Edit: second photo not showing so here is link https://imgur-archive.ppy.sh/discord/797724597721890818-797725051825684521-image0.jpg
It was like a 20 dollar blue swotch keyboard my brother bought me for christmas like 3 years ago
Aesthetics wise, it looks okay I suppose.
A bit generic looking though, but it doesn't look too try hard and is clean looking enough I suppose.
I really don't like the logo on top of the nav keys though, it kinda ruins the clean looks a bit.
Build quality wise, again nothing special.
Metal mounting plate, braided cable.
On to the switches, this board is using MX blue switches. I'm not sure which manufacturer made them but they're all very similar so I guess that doesn't really matter.
Imo MX blue switches feels fine, but they're not excellent. And they have a horrible sound.
They're very high pitched, plasticky and extremely loud.
Their sound is kinda notorious at this point and you can recognize them from any typing video or on voice chats.
The keycaps looks fine. They use a normal font so that's good. But some of the fonts are huge, not sure what's up with that.
I don't know what they're made of but since this looks like a back lit keyboard, and from their looks, I'm guessing they're lazered ABS.
In my experience, those kinds of caps are not very durable, they also gather dirt, dust and fingerprints really quickly, just from mere hours of use.
I guess this board's biggest strength is it's cheap price. $20 is really cheap for a mechanical keyboard.
5/10
Edit:
I won't rank it as this is a keyboard thread but it looks okay.Ashton wrote:
Could I also get a seperste rating for my diy uwu pencil holder?
I havent cleaned it wver sjnce I got it...
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Sounds pretty nice and thocky.Penguin wrote:
my mic has really bad reverb
I bet it'll sound even better with SA caps on.
Although, why is the video in my name?
yeah, I really want to get a nice set of SA keycaps for that reason. They would probably look silly on my raised switch board, but I don't really care.Tad Fibonacci wrote:
Sounds pretty nice and thocky.
I bet it'll sound even better with SA caps on.
:^)Tad Fibonacci wrote:
Although, why is the video in my name?
and now the keyboard you were waiting for. The Omnitech Flexible Keyboard
abraker, you forgot to clean your boogers off the desk..
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Oh god. What cursed being have you bring to this land?abraker wrote:
and now the keyboard you were waiting for. The Omnitech Flexible Keyboard
Please Lord have mercy upon my soul.
On to the review:
Aesthetics: It has the same aesthetics of a water balloon, or a condom. It's up to you to decide if that's good or not.
Build quality: What fucking build quality? From the pictures, I'm guessing that it's a membrane inside of a rubber condom. Although, I guess it'll be quite tough since there isn't really anything to break.
So, for build quality, I'll give it a "Actually, surprisingly tough. But at what cost?"
Switches: Yeah, if you think a rubber dome keyboard was bad, then imagine typing on this piece of dogshit. Surprisingly, I have actually seen a board that is just like this but had a different color and as you'd expect, the key feel is fucking trash. It's like pressing on dense rubber nipples. Just imagine having to write an essay with that thing.
The only saving grace of this keyboard that I can think of is that it's quite a tough motherfucker since there isn't really anything to break. Although shit, I still can think of a purpose for it. For example, in industrial environments where there are lots of dirt, dust and debris, this board would work really fine. And since it's covered by a condom, it should be water proof as well. It can also be cleaned quite easily, just run tab water on the fucking thing.
2/10
Edi: Also, I've edited Axl's keyboard's score since I don't think it deserves to be that low and certainly don't deserve to have to same ranking as this piece of shit.
yoo, this is my pc LMFAOCorne2Plum3 wrote:
This isn't my exact laptop but the keyboard look like this:
I have now achieved both the highest and lowest rating lmao
@penguin that's no booger. That's an onion.
@penguin that's no booger. That's an onion.
damn it abraker, you stole my place as having the lowest ranking keyboard
This is definitely not a good gaming keyboard but it's a lot better than my laptop keyboard. It's a Logitech K120 that I remembered was festering in the back of my closet. I haven't really modified it in any way.
Here's what the keyboard sounds like.
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Looks like a generic rubber dome keyboard to me.ghoulybits wrote:
This is definitely not a good gaming keyboard but it's a lot better than my laptop keyboard. It's a Logitech K120 that I remembered was festering in the back of my closet. I haven't really modified it in any way.
Here's what the keyboard sounds like.
It sounds pretty loud for a rubber dome though, and it's pretty rattly too.
The shape of the case is pretty ugly also.
3/10
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I think that's a fair score for them.Penguin wrote:
rubberdome and fake gaming keyboards = 3/10
Although I'm sure some are better than others, I can't really go and feel each individual board to rank them higher or lower than each other.
So I based this score ranking on a generic rubber dome keyboard since that would be the score that I'd rank them at most of the time.
So since this way of ranking is inherently flawed, though idk how else I'd rank boards and give a fair score without trying them out for myself. So don't feel bad if I rank your score lower than what you expect your board to be at.
Afterall, it's only my opinion and that isn't absolute either. I'm wrong about things all the time and my opinion about things do change through time as well.
And whether a keyboard is good for you or not largely depends on you, your taste and bias so my opinion shouldn't matter too much.
I found a picture of my first mech keyboard I bought back in 2014. Unfortunately, I spilled water on it a few years ago and it died. It was a great keyboard while it lasted. It was also extremely crusty because I rarely cleaned it in the 5+ years I owned it.
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Oh yeah, I had the same keyboard but with Cherry MX blues instead lol.Penguin wrote:
I found a picture of my first mech keyboard I bought back in 2014. Unfortunately, I spilled water on it a few years ago and it died. It was a great keyboard while it lasted. It was also extremely crusty because I rarely cleaned it in the 5+ years I owned it.
I loved that keyboard layout.
I still have it actually and it still works. Though the N key doesn't register half of the time.
i am 100% sure if i present my keyboards i would get absolutely annihilated.
cuz man i got one of those stupid ass flexible keyboard that got the p key broken from my dog so i had to use tissue and rugby to get that fixed up... kind of
and the rest of my keyboards are literally sorta flat
edit: realized i made a mistake plus forgot to put whatthefuck i edited, hooray
cuz man i got one of those stupid ass flexible keyboard that got the p key broken from my dog so i had to use tissue and rugby to get that fixed up... kind of
and the rest of my keyboards are literally sorta flat
edit: realized i made a mistake plus forgot to put whatthefuck i edited, hooray
post it plspentaqola wrote:
i am 100% sure if i present my keyboards i would get absolutely annihilated.
cuz man i got one of those stupid ass flexible keyboard that got the p key broken from my dog so i had to use tissue and rugby to get that fixed up... kind of
and the rest of my keyboards are literally sorta flat
Penguin wrote:
post it plspentaqola wrote:
i am 100% sure if i present my keyboards i would get absolutely annihilated.
cuz man i got one of those stupid ass flexible keyboard that got the p key broken from my dog so i had to use tissue and rugby to get that fixed up... kind of
and the rest of my keyboards are literally sorta flat
here you go... in all of its unholy glory at my kitchen
the rest will have to wait cuz i don't have time to take images of them, plus my place might have a blackout at 6 am for twelve hours
lMAO DEADASS-
its just missing the number pads, plus the p key is practically looking like an arm with a cast on it
i did however somehow manage to play platformer games with that thing, gotta say my arms feel fucked after using it
its just missing the number pads, plus the p key is practically looking like an arm with a cast on it
i did however somehow manage to play platformer games with that thing, gotta say my arms feel fucked after using it
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I was tired so I didn't wrote a review on this board when I saw it so I'm gonna do it now.Penguin wrote:
I found a picture of my first mech keyboard I bought back in 2014. Unfortunately, I spilled water on it a few years ago and it died. It was a great keyboard while it lasted. It was also extremely crusty because I rarely cleaned it in the 5+ years I owned it.
Overall aesthetics: It looks pretty try hard and gamery. Although I really like the layout of this keyboard. It makes the board looks quite nice and it's a very usable layout. It's also very reminiscent of the old AT keyboard layout and since I love the vintage aesthetics, I really like this layout.
Build quality: Pretty standard. Metal mounting plate with a plastic case. Nothing too spectacular.
Switches: Cherry MX reds have a pretty nice light weighting. However, I find it to be too light for myself since I get a lot of typos using them.
Tbh, cherry switches are pretty mediocre and overpriced. For linears, Gaterons are much better, smoother and Gateron yellows comes with a better mid weight weighting as well, so I'd much rather having other kinds of switch other than Cherries on this board.
Keycaps: The keycaps on this board are lasered ABS so they're not very durable and they'd wear pretty quickly. Not to mention those kinds of caps attracts dirt and dust like crazy so the board would look pretty disgusting pretty quick. They also use a hideous font to boot.
I'd definitely swap out the keycaps on this board.
I actually have this board myself but with Cherry MX blues instead.
Maybe one day, I'll swap out the Cherry blues for like Kailh BOX jades or something since I really like the layout of this keyboard.
I'll give it a 5.5/10.
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Congratulations, you've managed to beat abraker's score for the worst keyboard here.pentaqola wrote:
here you go... in all of its unholy glory at my kitchen
the rest will have to wait cuz i don't have time to take images of them, plus my place might have a blackout at 6 am for twelve hours
It's the fucking same keyboard but I think it's missing lock lights since I don't see them anywhere. I might be wrong and it might actually have lock lights though.
It also has arguably a worst layout than abraker's board, being a 75% instead of a full size.
1.8/10
Edi: Also, I'm surprised you're able to play any kind of video games on that thing. Honestly, that's quite impressive. Props to you Penta.
Damn now I need to beat that somehow
salvador dali's keyboardPenguin wrote:
abraker has a nearly identical keyboard lmao
i just noticed the cd-r king logo on the left - that already speaks a lot on the shit quality of that keyboard.pentaqola wrote:
here you go... in all of its unholy glory at my kitchen
the rest will have to wait cuz i don't have time to take images of them, plus my place might have a blackout at 6 am for twelve hours
i remember buying a pair 20 peso (around 0.5 USD) earphones from there since I didn't have much at the time. It broke within a week or two lol
so this is what a pro ctb player's keyboard looks likeNikolai wrote:
yesHydreigon wrote:
so this is what a pro ctb player's keyboard looks likeNikolai wrote:
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HmmmmmmNikolai wrote:
Aesthetics wise, I'm embarrassed to admit that I kinda like it.
Build quality wise, looks like a plastic POS.
The switches are scissor chicklet switches, they're quite popular on laptop due to them being very low profile, but on a full sized keyboard, I fail to see the point of using them.
They're completely flat and has almost zero travel distance, so they hurt my fingers if I were to have to use them for an extended amount of time.
I like the animu girl on it though.
2.5/10
Ok so this is my make it or abrake it moment. I have a laptop from my college days I use as a multimedia station. Going up to it to use it was annoying, so a while back I found a solution: Why not use my phone as a remote control? Yes, I am able to use mouse and keyboard using an android app called Unified Remote. That said, please rate my keyboard:
upside-down imageabraker wrote:
Ok so this is my make it or abrake it moment. I have a laptop from my college days I use as a multimedia station. Going up to it to use it was annoying, so a while back I found a solution: Why not use my phone as a remote control? Yes, I am able to use mouse and keyboard using an android app called Unified Remote. That said, please rate my keyboard:
yes quality
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I've already stated that I don't rank laptop and phone keyboards.abraker wrote:
Ok so this is my make it or abrake it moment. I have a laptop from my college days I use as a multimedia station. Going up to it to use it was annoying, so a while back I found a solution: Why not use my phone as a remote control? Yes, I am able to use mouse and keyboard using an android app called Unified Remote. That said, please rate my keyboard:
You'll have to try better than that, Brakey.
huh im not sure how that image became upside down. It was ok when I posted.
@Tad when did you say that? It's not in the initial post unless 2am is making me blind
@Tad when did you say that? It's not in the initial post unless 2am is making me blind
community/forums/topics/1190055?n=6abraker wrote:
@Tad when did you say that? It's not in the initial post unless 2am is making me blind
https://osu.ppy.sh/community/forums/topics/1190055?n=59
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abraker wrote:
huh im not sure how that image became upside down. It was ok when I posted.
@Tad when did you say that? It's not in the initial post unless 2am is making me blind
Tad Fibonacci wrote:
no/10nedd83 wrote:
tad, rate my mobile keyboard too, please.
Tad Fibonacci wrote:
No, thank you.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
Rate my mobile keyboard then
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1pQTXJ_YuGrInC37mv_BFY2GYDZOwOCpA/view?usp=drivesdk
Tad Fibonacci wrote:
Well, I don't know enough about laptop keyboards to rate them properly, sorry.Corne2Plum3 wrote:
This isn't my exact laptop but the keyboard look like this:
But most of the time they're just rubber domes with scissors or butterfly looking pieces of plastic on them.
I have yet to tried a laptop keyboard that I thought was good yet. They're all very shallow and flat and some even hurts my finger tips after typing on them for a while.
A full travel keyboard would be much better imo.
Though this is all subjective. I know people who really like laptop and chicklet keyboards and swear by them.
Here are some posts I found regarding the matter.Tad Fibonacci wrote:
Well, I don't think I'm qualified enough to rate laptop keyboards so no, sorry.ClevelandsMyBro wrote:
does laptop counts?
But I guess I haven't made it clear in the thread yet so I'll edit it in.
thank you
ok so time to make a custom keyboard using paper, graphite, and I need to figure out how to do usb processing using paperclips. brb
ok so time to make a custom keyboard using paper, graphite, and I need to figure out how to do usb processing using paperclips. brb
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmabraker wrote:
thank you
ok so time to make a custom keyboard using paper, graphite, and I need to figure out how to do usb processing using paperclips. brb
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So I've been using these Feker Panda switches for about a week now and here's what I think about them.
They feel, sound and look a lot like Holy Pandas. That much is obvious I guess since they're HP clones.
I currently don't have a board with Holy Pandas, so I can't compare the 2 side by side atm. However, from what I tried of Holy Pandas, I'd say they're very similar.
These Feker Pandas gives you the same experience that Holy Pandas would provide you.
So I'd say that if you want to try out Holy Pandas, but doesn't want to make a huge investment. After all, $1 a swicth is quite expensive, you could get these instead and try them out to see if you like them or not.
If you like these Feker Pandas, you'll like Holy Pandas. If you don't like the Fekers, then you won't like Holy Pandas because the feeling that they provide are very similar.
Since these Fekers are cheap clones, there are some draw backs that I found while using them.
They're factory lubed, just like Holy Pandas. However, the factory lubing is extremely inconsistent.
When I first opened one to see if they're factory lubed or not, I thought they weren't since I couldn't see any lube in that one. But the second one I opened was drenched in lubricant.
The application was pretty inconsistent also, some were lubed on the slider, some has lube on top of the slider, some has springs that was drenched in lube etc. Although I heard that Holy Panda's factory lubing weren't any better either.
The switches themselves were pretty inconsistent also.
I found that some bottom housing and slider combination made the switches feel less tactile, and sometimes even down right linear. Although that problem is quite easily solved, I just switched the parts around again and they'd feel tactile again, so even though it's a problem, it's not that bad, especially if you want to relube them, you'll have to open them up anyways. Which I did, I lubed them with Krytox 205g0. I was about to film them as well, but I found that the housings were really tight, so I decided against it.
Overall, I think they're pretty good for the price. They're quite cheap, only slightly more expensive than Gateron Yellows. A pack of 110 switches only costed me around $30 or so. Although I can't compare these Fekers to HP side by side atm, however the feel of these Fekers are not dissimilar enough to Holy Pandas that I can differentiate them from one another without trying them side by side. It's like trying Cherry MX with other MX clones, they're different, but not dissimilar enough that you can tell which is which in a blind test. And considering the price difference between the 2, that's quite impressive.
Although I think the Fekers have a different sound to Holy Pandas though. But I'm not quite sure since the boards that I've tried the Holy Pandas on are different from the boards that I have, not mentioning the keycaps. Although the type of sound that they make are similar, I think it's just the pitch that are different.
They feel, sound and look a lot like Holy Pandas. That much is obvious I guess since they're HP clones.
I currently don't have a board with Holy Pandas, so I can't compare the 2 side by side atm. However, from what I tried of Holy Pandas, I'd say they're very similar.
These Feker Pandas gives you the same experience that Holy Pandas would provide you.
So I'd say that if you want to try out Holy Pandas, but doesn't want to make a huge investment. After all, $1 a swicth is quite expensive, you could get these instead and try them out to see if you like them or not.
If you like these Feker Pandas, you'll like Holy Pandas. If you don't like the Fekers, then you won't like Holy Pandas because the feeling that they provide are very similar.
Since these Fekers are cheap clones, there are some draw backs that I found while using them.
They're factory lubed, just like Holy Pandas. However, the factory lubing is extremely inconsistent.
When I first opened one to see if they're factory lubed or not, I thought they weren't since I couldn't see any lube in that one. But the second one I opened was drenched in lubricant.
The application was pretty inconsistent also, some were lubed on the slider, some has lube on top of the slider, some has springs that was drenched in lube etc. Although I heard that Holy Panda's factory lubing weren't any better either.
The switches themselves were pretty inconsistent also.
I found that some bottom housing and slider combination made the switches feel less tactile, and sometimes even down right linear. Although that problem is quite easily solved, I just switched the parts around again and they'd feel tactile again, so even though it's a problem, it's not that bad, especially if you want to relube them, you'll have to open them up anyways. Which I did, I lubed them with Krytox 205g0. I was about to film them as well, but I found that the housings were really tight, so I decided against it.
Overall, I think they're pretty good for the price. They're quite cheap, only slightly more expensive than Gateron Yellows. A pack of 110 switches only costed me around $30 or so. Although I can't compare these Fekers to HP side by side atm, however the feel of these Fekers are not dissimilar enough to Holy Pandas that I can differentiate them from one another without trying them side by side. It's like trying Cherry MX with other MX clones, they're different, but not dissimilar enough that you can tell which is which in a blind test. And considering the price difference between the 2, that's quite impressive.
Although I think the Fekers have a different sound to Holy Pandas though. But I'm not quite sure since the boards that I've tried the Holy Pandas on are different from the boards that I have, not mentioning the keycaps. Although the type of sound that they make are similar, I think it's just the pitch that are different.
This is my keyboard, it's a SteelSeries Apex 7 TKL With Red Switches. (German Layout)
My keyboard is kind of dirty because I'm too lazy to clean it most of the time, but I like it a lot.
I love that Bongo Cat on the OLED Screen owo
My keyboard is kind of dirty because I'm too lazy to clean it most of the time, but I like it a lot.
I love that Bongo Cat on the OLED Screen owo
poggers thxWinnyace wrote:
nice bongo cat and nice Misaki there son
it's a collab with my mates
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Aesthetics wise, it looks pretty nice and clean. I like it.Suwumi wrote:
This is my keyboard, it's a SteelSeries Apex 7 TKL With Red Switches. (German Layout)
My keyboard is kind of dirty because I'm too lazy to clean it most of the time, but I like it a lot.
I love that Bongo Cat on the OLED Screen owo
It's identical to abraker's board but just TKL instead of being fullsize.
Build quality isn't that much different either. It's pretty standard for a modern premium mechanical keyboard.
The keycaps looks pretty nice. They use a normal font and the letters are in the top left of the caps AS IT SHOULD BE, instead of being in the middle like most other backlit keyboards.
One interesting thing to point out that this board is using the German ISO layout, evident by the QWERTZ layout.
Although the caps looks nice, they're not very high quality. They're the same as the caps on the pro version that abraker uses. They're lasered so they don't lasts long, and they attracts fingerprints and dirt like crazy.
For a board that costs $140, I think it's unjustifiable that they don't put proper keycaps on this board.
The switches are Steelseries branded switches, although I think they're made by Gateron if I'm not mistaken.
I heard that they're smoother than Cherry MX reds (Which is to be expected, any other clones out there are better than Cherries) and about on par, if not slightly smoother than Gateron red switches.
Which is nice and all, but I think they don't really offer anything special, especially if you consider the price and if you look at the pro version which offers you their Hall effects switches which are excellent.
For $140 I think the Razer Huntsman TE would be a better choice. They comes with Razer optical switches, which are very smooth and they have doubleshot PBT keycaps.
Although I guess you don't get the novelty OLED screen that you'd get with the Steelseries.
Speaking of the screen, I think it's pretty cool.
You can play basic animations on it, draw stuffs on it or make it display computer or in-game stuffs.
Although, I don't think it really serves any practical function. It's more of a novelty thing than anything really.
The info display sounds good, until you realized that when you're gaming, or just using your computer, you don't really look at your keyboard. Not to mention that the screen sits flat on the board, so it's partially concealed by the keycaps.
To me at least, I don't think it really justifies the cost of this board, compared to it's other competitors which offers you better switches and keycaps at the same price point.
Overall, It's a pretty okay keyboard. However, compared to other boards at the same price point, I think it's not that great. And compared to the Pro version of the same keyboard, the gap is even bigger. Although, the pro version is $70 more than this board, so I guess it's not fair to compare this board with that.
6/10
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For me, yes.Winnyace wrote:
is building your own KB worth it in your eyes, Tad?
But it depends on you if you think building one for yourself is worth it or not.
Usually when building one for yourself, you get to choose the elements and combinations of a keyboard that you like that isn't available pre built.
For example, most pre build keyboards only use Cherry MX or it's other red, brown and blue clones. And the boards that comes with different switches are very obscure and/or costs a lot more.
So if you're building a keyboard for yourself, you get to choose what the layout is, what the switches are, if your switches are going to be lubed or not, the keycaps etc. And you can also choose the budget for them as well, especially now that there are lots of cheap and mid budget keyboard kits available. So custom keyboards aren't that expensive as they were anymore.
But on the flip side, they require time and effort. Although building one is not hard at all, especially now when hotswap is really popular. You don't even have to solder, just plug the switches in and it just works. The most painful step is probably lubing switches since it takes a lot of time. And if you're a beginner, you're bound to overlube switches or lube them unevenly etc. But hey, you can choose to not lube them. But some of them gets much better if you do lube them though.
Edit: And yeah, you appreciate something more if you've put effort into it and making it work, rather than just buying a pre built one.
Although I completely understand if you just want a functional keyboard and doesn't care enough to spend time and effort to build one.
i love this thread
aluminum case ftw
aluminum case ftw
honestly, I would build one, but I don't have the money. while kits are probably starting to become cheaper, the most cheap kits require hand-made solder and that is expensive. a good soldering iron can cost a little bit and if you are prone to making mistakes having solder wick or even an expensive solder removal with a pump and everything is necessary. either way, ofc it would take time, effort and money, but you do it also because it is a hobby you like, so your time, effort and money isn't spent on something you don't enjoy. thank you answering that, Tad!Tad Fibonacci wrote:
For me, yes.Winnyace wrote:
is building your own KB worth it in your eyes, Tad?
But it depends on you if you think building one for yourself is worth it or not.
Usually when building one for yourself, you get to choose the elements and combinations of a keyboard that you like that isn't available pre built.
For example, most pre build keyboards only use Cherry MX or it's other red, brown and blue clones. And the boards that comes with different switches are very obscure and/or costs a lot more.
So if you're building a keyboard for yourself, you get to choose what the layout is, what the switches are, if your switches are going to be lubed or not, the keycaps etc. And you can also choose the budget for them as well, especially now that there are lots of cheap and mid budget keyboard kits available. So custom keyboards aren't that expensive as they were anymore.
But on the flip side, they require time and effort. Although building one is not hard at all, especially now when hotswap is really popular. You don't even have to solder, just plug the switches in and it just works. The most painful step is probably lubing switches since it takes a lot of time. And if you're a beginner, you're bound to overlube switches or lube them unevenly etc. But hey, you can choose to not lube them. But some of them gets much better if you do lube them though.
Edit: And yeah, you appreciate something more if you've put effort into it and making it work, rather than just buying a pre built one.
Although I completely understand if you just want a functional keyboard and doesn't care enough to spend time and effort to build one.
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Soldering is not necessary. There are a lot of kits that has hotswap, cheap and doesn't require you to solder or desolder anything. On top of my mind I can think of a few like the GK61, 64, 67, KC84, etc. Those are the budget options however some GK kits offers Aluminum or Polycarbonate cases as well so if you like metal cases, you can go with those.Winnyace wrote:
honestly, I would build one, but I don't have the money. while kits are probably starting to become cheaper, the most cheap kits require hand-made solder and that is expensive. a good soldering iron can cost a little bit and if you are prone to making mistakes having solder wick or even an expensive solder removal with a pump and everything is necessary. either way, ofc it would take time, effort and money, but you do it also because it is a hobby you like, so your time, effort and money isn't spent on something you don't enjoy. thank you answering that, Tad!
Or Idobao has the ID80 and ID80V2, which are 75% Aluminum keyboard kits with hot swap. They're also gonna release the ID67 in April of this year (I think?) as well, which is also an Alu kit but for a 65% board.
And even if hotswaps aren't available to you, you can still use a soldering service in your local area.
I don't know what the price is in your area, but where I'm at, soldering/desoldering a board regardless of the layout costs around $5 per board. They also have switch lubing services as well which costs around 17 cents per switch. Filming the switches will costs extra for the films, but if you already have your own films then it'll be free.
Thank youkai99 wrote:
i love this thread
aluminum case ftw
I recently lubed my Glorious Pandas with Krytox 205g0. Sounds and feels a ton better. Sorry about the reverb.
sounds like heaven compared to my laptopPenguin wrote:
I recently lubed my Glorious Pandas with Krytox 205g0. Sounds and feels a ton better. Sorry about the reverb.
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Sounds very noice.
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Did someone just say Gateron BROWNS????Nameless wrote:
It's just an Anne Pro 2 with Gateron Browns, and the Akko World Tour keycap set but I think it looks pretty nice. I just wanted something that fit nicely in my setup, is all. Don't really wanna invest heavily outside of that right now because of budgetary reasons (and me just not needing anything nicer)
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Aesthetics wise, personally not a fan of the keycaps but it's quite nice.
It's still a very clean looking keyboard and it fits your setup very well.
It has a 60% form factor, which is too small for me. Tbh, I don't really care about saving spaces on my desk so I don't see the point of 60%. And they are very annoying to use to me. However, since form factor is a very subjective thing, I won't fault it for that.
Nothing much to say about build quality, quite standard for modern mechs.
The keycaps are dyesubbed PBT made by Akko. Tbh I think Akko makes some of the better stock keycaps. I quite like their caps. Too bad they often stick to the more fruity colours, which I'm not really a fan of. They have a classic set that is based on the Cherry 9009 keyboard though and that one looks pretty good.
Back to topic, they're dye subbed, so they're of high quality and the legends will never fade away. They also use a normal font and the position of the letters are in the correct position, which is a plus.
Now, on to the bad stuffs.
Fucking Gateron Browns.
So, Gateron shit, which is brown... I mean, Gateron Brown which is shit is a clone of Cherry MX shit, which is brown... I mean, Cherry MX brown, which is shit.
As you may have noticed, by copying shit, you produce shit.
But yes, Gateron Brown is a light linear switches that gets very scratchy at the middle of the key travel. And because of the scratchiness, some people, and in fact, even manufacturers, claim that the switch is actually tactile.
Honestly, this is a quite nice keyboard, but the browns kinda ruined it.
6/10
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The worst part about this is that I'm in complete agreement on browns. I wish I had gone for another switch and *man* I cannot be assed to solder better switches in. Will just have to live with it until I get my next board I supposeTad Fibonacci wrote:
Did someone just say Gateron BROWNS????Nameless wrote:
It's just an Anne Pro 2 with Gateron Browns, and the Akko World Tour keycap set but I think it looks pretty nice. I just wanted something that fit nicely in my setup, is all. Don't really wanna invest heavily outside of that right now because of budgetary reasons (and me just not needing anything nicer)
...
Aesthetics wise, personally not a fan of the keycaps but it's quite nice.
It's still a very clean looking keyboard and it fits your setup very well.
It has a 60% form factor, which is too small for me. Tbh, I don't really care about saving spaces on my desk so I don't see the point of 60%. And they are very annoying to use to me. However, since form factor is a very subjective thing, I won't fault it for that.
Nothing much to say about build quality, quite standard for modern mechs.
The keycaps are dyesubbed PBT made by Akko. Tbh I think Akko makes some of the better stock keycaps. I quite like their caps. Too bad they often stick to the more fruity colours, which I'm not really a fan of. They have a classic set that is based on the Cherry 9009 keyboard though and that one looks pretty good.
Back to topic, they're dye subbed, so they're of high quality and the legends will never fade away. They also use a normal font and the position of the letters are in the correct position, which is a plus.
Now, on to the bad stuffs.
Fucking Gateron Browns.
So, Gateron shit, which is brown... I mean, Gateron Brown which is shit is a clone of Cherry MX shit, which is brown... I mean, Cherry MX brown, which is shit.
As you may have noticed, by copying shit, you produce shit.
But yes, Gateron Brown is a light linear switches that gets very scratchy at the middle of the key travel. And because of the scratchiness, some people, and in fact, even manufacturers, claim that the switch is actually tactile.
Honestly, this is a quite nice keyboard, but the browns kinda ruined it.
6/10
I also should probably get at least a 65% board. Programming without dedicated arrow keys is a little annoying, so if anyone passing by this post has recommendations of good 65%s and above at a reasonable cost that have a white case, lemme know I guess
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For 65%, I think the GK64 is a pretty good choice.Nameless wrote:
The worst part about this is that I'm in complete agreement on browns. I wish I had gone for another switch and *man* I cannot be assed to solder better switches in. Will just have to live with it until I get my next board I suppose
I also should probably get at least a 65% board. Programming without dedicated arrow keys is a little annoying, so if anyone passing by this post has recommendations of good 65%s and above at a reasonable cost that have a white case, lemme know I guess
You can get it with or without switches, alu plate or plastic plate, plastic case or alu case.
And you can make it have a split spacebar if you want.
It also have hotswap so you can try out different switches on it.
The only downside I can think of is that it's a tray mount keyboard, which can make the keys where you screw the plate in feels very hard.
Just make sure it's a normal model and not a optical switch model if you want to use different switches on it.
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Cheers pal, that's very helpful <3Tad Fibonacci wrote:
For 65%, I think the GK64 is a pretty good choice.
You can get it with or without switches, alu plate or plastic plate, plastic case or alu case.
And you can make it have a split spacebar if you want.
It also have hotswap so you can try out different switches on it.
The only downside I can think of is that it's a tray mount keyboard, which can make the keys where you screw the plate in feels very hard.
Just make sure it's a normal model and not a optical switch model if you want to use different switches on it.
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Np mate, glad to be of help.Nameless wrote:
Cheers pal, that's very helpful <3Tad Fibonacci wrote:
For 65%, I think the GK64 is a pretty good choice.
You can get it with or without switches, alu plate or plastic plate, plastic case or alu case.
And you can make it have a split spacebar if you want.
It also have hotswap so you can try out different switches on it.
The only downside I can think of is that it's a tray mount keyboard, which can make the keys where you screw the plate in feels very hard.
Just make sure it's a normal model and not a optical switch model if you want to use different switches on it.
heyo Tad,
here's my first ever mech that I bought new.
Rakk Illis, red outemus, hotswappable with other outemu switches.
and it cost me only 2k PHP ($40)!
I don't have a quiet place where I can do a typing test, so here's a typing test of the same keyboard:
here's my first ever mech that I bought new.
Rakk Illis, red outemus, hotswappable with other outemu switches.
and it cost me only 2k PHP ($40)!
I don't have a quiet place where I can do a typing test, so here's a typing test of the same keyboard:
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That's a very nice layout.Lapizote wrote:
heyo Tad,
here's my first ever mech that I bought new.
Rakk Illis, red outemus, hotswappable with other outemu switches.
and it cost me only 2k PHP ($40)!
I don't have a quiet place where I can do a typing test, so here's a typing test of the same keyboard:
Aesthetics wise, it looks nice and clean. I especially love the layout. I have a similar board with basically the same layout, but it have Cherry blues in it. Although, I wish the gaps would've been a little bit thicker, since they kinda thinned them out on this board so the key blocks looks a bit squished together.
But overall, not a bad looking keyboard.
Build quality wise, again, it's pretty standard at this point. However, one thing to point out is that the upper case, including the high bezels is a separate piece and can be detached or switched out. That's actually a pretty nice touch especially if you want to customize your board. If you want a high profile board, then just leave it as is. If you want a low profile board, then just remove the top.
However, I'm not sure if having such a removable top case would compromise any ruggedness. Having the top case built like that might make it more of a show piece than an actual functional layer of protection. But again, this is just me guessing, it might still be able to provide the same protection as a traditional case.
The keycaps listed on their website said that they're ABS double shots. Which means they're very durable and the legends will never fade away. Although I'm guessing this is a different model since the caps on their website looks nothing like the caps in your picture. Which is a good thing since the caps on their other models looks fucking hideous with their stencil and square gamer fonts. These caps uses a normal font with no stencil. Which is a good thing. They looks way better than the ones on their older boards.
I'm guessing they're made out of doubleshot PBT.
On to the switches. Outemu reds are similar to cherry reds. They're both a light weight linear switch.
Their light weighting is nice, but it's a pain for me to use them to type since they're too light and I makes a lot of mistakes using them.
Nothing really special about them really.
Although I found on Rakk's website that they also sell models with Gateron yellows and I think that's a much better choice. Sure, that model doesn't have hotswap like the model you got. But Outemu's hotswap sockets are only compatible with other Outemu switches. And in my opinion, Outemus aren't that interesting or good enough to be considered compared to other switch makers. So I'd rather use Gateron yellows permanently on my board than to have hotswap that only works with Outemu switches.
Oh and I forgot to mention, in the typing test, I can't not notice the horrible stab rattle.
Those sounds fucking horrible. But since it's a hot swap keyboard, replacing or modding them shouldn't be too hard I think.
Overall, a quite decent keyboard. Although with a quite limited choice in switches.
6/10
great writeup!
although I'd like to point out that I couldn't find any stores that I know selling gateron yellow versions for the new version of the Illis (idk why tho, maybe the oem doesn't manufacture them anymore?), so I just chose the outemu reds. plus, I like the hotswap feature so that I can just replace switches that would break.
regardless, I myself am still pretty happy with this keyboard considering the price that I got them at.
although I'd like to point out that I couldn't find any stores that I know selling gateron yellow versions for the new version of the Illis (idk why tho, maybe the oem doesn't manufacture them anymore?), so I just chose the outemu reds. plus, I like the hotswap feature so that I can just replace switches that would break.
regardless, I myself am still pretty happy with this keyboard considering the price that I got them at.
Hi can you r8 my 30 dollar keyboards pls thanks https://www.ipictek.com/products/pictek-tkl-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-87-key
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Nothing much to talk about.Bambinex wrote:
Hi can you r8 my 30 dollar keyboards pls thanks https://www.ipictek.com/products/pictek-tkl-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-87-key
Looks pretty okay. Although, really generic.
Decent build quality.
Keycaps are ABS doubleshot so they're durable, but the letters are stenciled, which is ugly af.
Switches are "professional equivalent switches"... Whatever that means.
The site does mention that it uses blue switches, so I'm guessing it uses a cherry blue clone.
The sounds produced by those switches are fucking horrible.
Also, half of the description about this keyboard is about the RGB for whatever reason.
Overall, a cheap functional mechanical keyboard.
5/10
Actually I like the sound of the switches lmaoTad Fibonacci wrote:
Nothing much to talk about.Bambinex wrote:
Hi can you r8 my 30 dollar keyboards pls thanks https://www.ipictek.com/products/pictek-tkl-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-87-key
Looks pretty okay. Although, really generic.
Decent build quality.
Keycaps are ABS doubleshot so they're durable, but the letters are stenciled, which is ugly af.
Switches are "professional equivalent switches"... Whatever that means.
The site does mention that it uses blue switches, so I'm guessing it uses a cherry blue clone.
The sounds produced by those switches are fucking horrible.
Also, half of the description about this keyboard is about the RGB for whatever reason.
Overall, a cheap functional mechanical keyboard.
5/10
But just for asking, what would a 10/10 keyboard be like?