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Mastodonio
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Mastodonio
Your image size is not correct. It has to be 800x600 or 1024x768

I like your insane difficulty :) Nicely done!
Just one thing - 02:13:929 - you have too short breakpoint here. make it longer or put it away.
and the same problem with breakpoint is here - 03:07:030
and one more thing - with your KIAI mod - it doesn't end in your song. you have to end it in : 03:20:176.
Well,that is all with this difficulty! Good luck :) and Star!
Mystica
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Mystica
3I估计rank不可 尤其是还没有E和N的情况下
送app也不错lol
and star it!
senaya
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senaya
[Insane]
02:09:685 (6) - finish?
02:17:966 (4) - finish?
02:18:897 (8) - what does this quiet section represents? I can clearly hear why this one is silent, for example 01:21:769 (4)
02:22:934 (6) - change this to finish and then change 02:23:452 (8) to whistle ?
02:24:590 (5) - finish?
02:55:126 (8) - finish?
03:15:621 (6) - change this to whistle and then change 03:16:035 (10) to whistle?

Awesome work with the hitsounds. I just love it!
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Luvdic
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Luvdic
General:

Audio Lead-in: I recommend using audio lead in of 1 seconds, this should be the same for all difficulties (I'm saying this because currently, Insane's audio lead in differs from others)

Preview time: They are different in all the difficulties, and they should be the same.
ddd519's Koi has 120143, Insane has 120233, and Yumeko's Ouka -1

The tag's are not the same in all difficulties, and they should be. Yumeko's Ouka difficulty is missing "ddddd519 Yumeko"

Hmm, your post at my queue only said about modding insane, but seeing that the first post says that ddd519's Koi Yumeko's Hard and Lunatic are ready for mods, i'll mod them too

Timing:

ddd519's Koi is missing a red timing section, at around 2 minutes. And yes, I'm not being specific because Yumeko's Ouka offset is set at 120262 while the Insane is set at 120266. And since you're using the same mp3 file, the red sections should be the same for all difficulties.
Which one is right? I'm not sure, cause i'm not expert at timing.

Yumeko's Ouka:

Let's start with: 358 objects are not snapped to the timing.
Oh my god at the green sections. I do wonder though, if you were to have used a normal-hitclap2.wav, would have the hitsounds overlap? If it didn't it would have saved so much time. Lol

00:14:065 (7,8,9) - Consider adding clap to them
01:35:429 (4,5) - The anti jump is so out of place.

Just finished yumeko's mod, and im sorry to tell you that i gotta stop for now, will continue a bit later, got something to do.
If i don't finish my mod yet in 2 days, do pm me please

Alright, here's the other part of the mod

Insane:

01:07:898 - I strongly suggest you to start kiai time at 01:07:691 - It just looks bad to look at the fountain appears in that moment.
01:20:112 (1,2) - Should be deleted
01:20:940 - This spot seriously needs a beat to be added
Hmm, now that i have seen more this diff, i gotta say that i really dislike the inconsistency throughtout the map, and im talking about the inconsistency in your beat placement in the timeline (example: 01:07:691 - have a beat, while in 01:20:940 - dont have any) and your hitsounds. But oh well, seeing that it is indeed your intention to make them inconsistent, ill leave it at that.

ddd519's Koi :

00:18:415 (7) - Consider deleting this circle
00:21:521 (6) - Take out a repeat
00:24:626 (1,2,3) - Potentially unrankable because you can't see the repeats, get more opinions about this from others.
00:46:570 (7,8,9) - ^
02:30:805 - The triple should be in here, and not in 02:31:219 -
02:53:784 - Start the kiai time at 02:53:681 -


Also, because this map posses 3 Insanes difficulties, it will have to go for aproval, just saying in case you were'nt aware of it.
_Kiva
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_Kiva
FINALLY IT IS NOT 3 INSANE ANYMORE
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
OzzyOzrock
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OzzyOzrock
[Koi]

There are a lot of parts I want to nazi, but it's not a big difference.

But I'm still gonna nazi some parts.

00:51:125 (12,1) - big difference compared to the first combo.

00:55:058 (1,2,3) - Here, the streams are farther.
00:57:128 (4,5,6~) - Then here, they're closer again.

00:59:819 (10,11,12) - Spacing changes.

When you change sounds, it doesn't sound right at times.

01:53:024 (3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - Move these further apart. ;;
02:45:607 (8,9) - ^

But it's good, nonetheless.

[Insane]

00:22:975 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - This is the same beat, yet the spacing decreases.

Gah, there's a lot of spacing I don't like, random spacing increases and decreases throughout the map. If you can, fix them. It's just spacing, and it's supposed to be insane, I guess, so it might not matter much.

[Ouka]

AAAH, more spacing I disapprove of. ;;

You can probably disregard my spacing needs for now, but if someone else asks for you to fix it, you probably should. :x

I like the sounds in Insane and Ouka though. :D
pieguyn
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pieguyn
General:

-The soft-hitnormal2.wav doesn't really seem to fit a type of sound that would play on every single note, but it might just be me. o_o

ddd519's Koi:

-Hitsounds?

00:43:051 (5) - Too close to (4)
00:45:328 (3) - Too far away from (2)
01:30:251 (10) - Too far away from (9)
01:53:231 (4) - Too close to (3)

Insane:

00:22:147 (2) - Too close to (1)
00:23:389 (3) - Too far away from (2)
00:23:389 (3,4,5,6,7,8) - Spacing here is too close
Okay, it looks like you didn't use Distance Snap consistently here... the spacing varies a lot and most of the time it doesn't seem to fit. I'd recommend going through the map and resnapping all the notes (except for jumps) to a constant distance. I'd say 1.0x or 1.2x would work well here.
01:43:299 (1) - Remove the New Combo
02:52:021 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - This might be somewhat confusing
02:54:505 (4,5) - This doesn't play well since it only has three repeats and (5) is too far away. Either move (5) closer or remove (4) and extend (4) by a repeat.
03:00:302 (12) - Add a New Combo here and remove it from (1) on the next combo
03:01:958 (7) - ^
03:03:614 (7) - ^
03:05:270 (4) - ^
03:05:374 (5,6,7) - Slightly confusing
03:10:239 (7) - Add a New Combo here and remove it from (1)
03:11:895 (7) - ^
03:13:551 (6) - ^
03:15:207 (4) - Add a New Combo

Yumeko's Ouka:

00:27:524 - Add a note?
00:36:426 (9) - New combo
00:39:524 (5) - Add a New Combo
00:40:773 (1) - Remove this New Combo and put it on (2). Also, I'm not sure I quite like how this goes. I'd recommend moving (2) to where this slider starts, and possibly shortening this slider by 1/8.
00:41:809 (4) - Somewhat confusing (perhaps shorten it by 1/2 and add a note where the slider ends)
00:44:500 (6) - Add a New Combo and remove it from (1) on the next combo
01:27:564 (8) - Add a New Combo here and remove it from (1)
01:29:220 (6) - ^
01:34:187 (11) - ^
01:36:050 (5) - Too close to (4). Also, new combo?
01:39:155 (7) - Add a New Combo here and remove it from (1)
01:41:018 (1) - Remove this New Combo
01:42:674 (1,2,3) - Too close to each other (somewhat confusing)
02:00:681 (5) - Add a New Combo here and remove it from (1)
02:02:337 (10) - ^
02:03:993 (6) - ^
02:05:649 (3) - ^
02:08:960 (7) - ^
02:10:616 (7) - ^
02:13:928 (11) - ^
02:15:376 (5) - Add a New Combo here
02:16:825 (1) - Remove this New Combo
02:17:239 (3) - Add a New Combo
02:20:551 (9) - Add a New Combo here and remove it from (1)
02:22:207 (7) - ^

I found mostly aesthetic issues- the beat placements were fine. Most of the issues were with New Combos. They should generally be placed once every four or eight beats, with some exceptions such as jumps. Good luck! :) *stars*
_Kiva
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_Kiva
All fixed :P
Trying to use 1.2X distance
_Yue_old
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_Yue_old
加勒个油~~ :) :)
lbh87650310
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lbh87650310
:) star
Luvdic
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Luvdic

_Kiva wrote:

FINALLY IT IS NOT 3 INSANE ANYMORE
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
Youre still missing the fact that because it contains 3 insanes, on which by the way none of them feels like a hard, it is pretty much unrankable, but aproveable.
Also youre still missing the diff that is suppoed to be less than 3 star rating. Maybe that 3.45 stars Gatsu is easy enough to fill that role, but since i haven't seen it yet, i cant be so sure..
_Kiva
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_Kiva

ErufenRito wrote:

_Kiva wrote:

FINALLY IT IS NOT 3 INSANE ANYMORE
HAHAHAHHAHAHA
Youre still missing the fact that because it contains 3 insanes, on which by the way none of them feels like a hard, it is pretty much unrankable, but aproveable.
Also youre still missing the diff that is suppoed to be less than 3 star rating. Maybe that 3.45 stars Gatsu is easy enough to fill that role, but since i haven't seen it yet, i cant be so sure..
I am trying to make that Gatsu as easy as possible..I ve made a really easy one but it still gives me an 3.5 star D:
Luvdic
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Luvdic
Just quickly checked your gatsu's diff and it is definitely not easy enough imo. You would be very lucky if you can rank it with that diff as the easiest.
yeahyeahyeahhh
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yeahyeahyeahhh
Quality shit. Good stuff for first map, seriously. Cept Gatsu diff lol, needs work.

Who the hell is Yumeko? o.o good stuff. why so pro

One this I noticed though-

Insane:
02:21:382 (9,10) - This is super hard to read, maybe move the 10 for better visibility?
_Kiva
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_Kiva

yeahyeahyeahhh wrote:

Quality shit. Good stuff for first map, seriously. Cept Gatsu diff lol, needs work.

Who the hell is Yumeko? o.o good stuff. why so pro

One this I noticed though-

Insane:
02:21:382 (9,10) - This is super hard to read, maybe move the 10 for better visibility?
Hmm Yumeko is just Yumeko Yuki , he made a guestdiff in FlowerDance which is really awesome.
LOL i havent spend anytime working on Gatsu yet.
Thanks for ur notice :D
Colin Hou
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I wowed at my first play of [Yumeko's Ouka]. really nice one.

[General]:
  1. ok, I'm afraid 'spinner-background.png', 'spinner-metre.png' should be remade, because you touched the aspect ratio while resizing it to 1023x692, and as the background is also too wide (1024x786 is the max size), I did something on the original BG and plz make new spinner skin based on this. **it's a 1.5MB .png, so plz use a .jpg as BG**
    OK, this is it
  2. you need a spinner-approachcircle.png, hit0.png, spinner-osu.png, spinner-spin.png
  3. disable countdown
  4. disable lean-in in [Insane], [ddd519's Koi], [Gatsu]
  5. make all diffs' first offset 1026
  6. [ddd519's Koi] is not on the information page of this song, maybe a full submit can fix this
  7. this is no 2nd offset for [ddd519's Koi]?
  8. the [Gatsu] is really kind like a Hard x_x, and as you said, I'll leave it to you
[Yumeko's Ouka]:
  1. 01:36:050 (5) - new combo
  2. plz map to the end, this is really an excellent work and you should finish this
  3. 00:52:771 (1) - start this at 00:52:884 and add note here.
  4. 01:39:983 (2) - you can notice its end is not correctly placed under (1). adjust this slider with your shift button down can fix this.
  5. 02:12:893 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - more smoothly?
[Insane]:
  1. 00:32:912 (7,8,1) - (8,1) too close, keep the same spacing here
  2. 00:39:536 (1,2,3) - really misleading space, move (2) farther
  3. 00:46:161 (9) - how about place this right on 00:45:747 (7)
  4. 00:46:161 (9,1) - too close
  5. 00:46:161 (9,1) - most of the reverse arrow is covered
  6. 01:25:081 (7,8,9) - spacing, place (8) closer to (7) to keep the balance
  7. 01:30:670 (2,3,4) - ^
  8. 01:48:060 (6) - 1 more repeat
  9. 01:52:615 (2) - 3 grids up, and keep this spacing on 01:53:236 (4,5)
  10. 01:54:271 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - make the combo: 8,8,8,5
  11. 02:12:894 (9) - whistle
  12. 02:58:438 (1,2,3,4) - misleading spacing x_x
  13. 03:03:821 (1,2,3,4) - ^
  14. 03:04:856 (4,1) - ^
  15. 03:05:684 (4,1) - ^
  16. 03:14:586 (4,5,6,7) - spacing
[ddd519's Koi]:
  1. remove the section at 02:53:784, 03:07:102
  2. 00:25:454 (2,3) - most part of the reverse arrow is hidden and players would mistake this as a note not as repeating slider, please find a better way to make the reverse arrow visible
  3. 00:42:637 (4,5,6) - spacing
  4. 00:46:570 (7,8,9) - wth
  5. 01:05:305 (1) - not fit here at all
  6. 01:14:311 (1) - make the volume to 60
  7. 01:14:621 (T) - move this section to 01:14:828
  8. 01:30:044 (9) - move 2 grids right
  9. 01:34:106 (T) - custom override 2? sounds horrible x_x, keep C1 plz
  10. 01:52:817 (2,3,4) - spacing
  11. 02:15:175 (T) - C2 again OTZ
  12. 02:46:021 (9) - ctrl+r
this is indeed 3 Insane now +_+

you should remove 1 Insane and map/find a [Hard] and a [Normal] for this. star for now

p.s: wth WIP ._.
LKs
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NatsumeRin
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nice map star.
Yumeko Yuki
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pieguy1372 wrote:

Yumeko's Ouka:

00:27:524 - Add a note?
00:36:426 (9) - New combo
00:39:524 (5) - Add a New Combo
00:40:773 (1) - Remove this New Combo and put it on (2). Also, I'm not sure I quite like how this goes. I'd recommend moving (2) to where this slider starts, and possibly shortening this slider by 1/8.
00:41:809 (4) - Somewhat confusing (perhaps shorten it by 1/2 and add a note where the slider ends)
00:44:500 (6) - Add a New Combo and remove it from (1) on the next combo
01:27:564 (8) - Add a New Combo here and remove it from (1)
01:29:220 (6) - ^
01:34:187 (11) - ^
01:36:050 (5) - Too close to (4). Also, new combo?
01:39:155 (7) - Add a New Combo here and remove it from (1)
01:41:018 (1) - Remove this New Combo
01:42:674 (1,2,3) - Too close to each other (somewhat confusing)
02:00:681 (5) - Add a New Combo here and remove it from (1)
02:02:337 (10) - ^
02:03:993 (6) - ^
02:05:649 (3) - ^
02:08:960 (7) - ^
02:10:616 (7) - ^
02:13:928 (11) - ^
02:15:376 (5) - Add a New Combo here
02:16:825 (1) - Remove this New Combo
02:17:239 (3) - Add a New Combo
02:20:551 (9) - Add a New Combo here and remove it from (1)
02:22:207 (7) - ^
all fixed thx :)

Colin Hou wrote:

[Yumeko's Ouka]:
  1. 01:36:050 (5) - new combo fixed
  2. plz map to the end, this is really an excellent work and you should finish this done but maybe not well as before :(
  3. 00:52:771 (1) - start this at 00:52:884 and add note here. fixed
  4. 01:39:983 (2) - you can notice its end is not correctly placed under (1). adjust this slider with your shift button down can fix this. fixed
  5. 02:12:893 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10) - more smoothly? fixed

thx for mod :)

Download: Kozato snow - Koi Gatsu Ouka (_Kiva) [Yumeko's Ouka].osu
Last edited by Yumeko Yuki , edited 3 times in total.
Snowy Dream
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Snowy Dream
飘~~~~~~
-----------------------------------
[Gatsu]
00:22:556(1) 看上去很不舒服=A= down 1 grid
00:36:840(4,5) 不对称大丈夫？
00:38:703(1) Delete newcombo
00:39:531(2) Add newcombo
01:30:873(1) 这是给新手玩的么。。这跳的。。7.83×的距离。。
02:00:266(T) 时间点删除

Download: Kozato snow - Koi Gatsu Ouka (_Kiva) [ddd519's Koi].osu
soulfear
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soulfear
這樣的BPM大丈夫?
_Kiva
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_Kiva

soulfear wrote:

這樣的BPM大丈夫?
._. 这是人肉TIMING机POKIE给的精准BPM
Laune_old
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Laune_old
:? STAR
Snowy Dream
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Snowy Dream

soulfear wrote:

這樣的BPM大丈夫?
大丈夫 萌大乃
Vergence
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Vergence
Gatsu
00:16:353 (3) - Move this nearer to 4
00:18:001 (1,1,1,1) - Move them nearer to each other
00:29:545 (1) - Unrankable slider...cannot see the reverse sign
00:38:664 (1) - Move this closer to the previous note
:( Bad Diff. There are notes too far from each other

ddd501's Koi
This diff is average but too many hitsounds :o

Insane
01:22:718 (6) - Too close to 5
Fine~

Yumeko's Ouka
Overall Diff +2
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_Kiva
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_Kiva

DragonSparta wrote:

Gatsu
00:16:353 (3) - Move this nearer to 4
00:18:001 (1,1,1,1) - Move them nearer to each other
00:29:545 (1) - Unrankable slider...cannot see the reverse sign
00:38:664 (1) - Move this closer to the previous note
:( Bad Diff. There are notes too far from each other

Agree :(
I havent spent any time on this diff yet
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MisakaMikoto
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MisakaMikoto
star :)
Kami
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Kami
8-)
ZHSteven
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ZHSteven
awesome arrangement and hitsound~
Like it very much~
just take note:

For ddd519's Koi:

I don't know this is acceptable or not but... It is better not do like this...
It will make the whole map playing like "relax" mod..
if you want to reduce the star rate, my suggest is just change some of the stream into slider+note+slider.
Streams in this diff make it insane..

and also, just my opinion, insane hitsound is a bit mess up..but it is fine you want to keep it~~

Yumeko's diff is fantastic.. Really a great job~~

Star~
Snowy Dream
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Snowy Dream

ZHSteven wrote:

awesome arrangement and hitsound~
Like it very much~
just take note:

For ddd519's Koi:
[attachment=0:b7805].jpg[/attachment:b7805]
I don't know this is acceptable or not but... It is better not do like this...
It will make the whole map playing like "relax" mod..
if you want to reduce the star rate, my suggest is just change some of the stream into slider+note+slider.
Streams in this diff make it insane..

Star~

Oh,I've never done this at all >.>
sico91212
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sico91212
[Yumeko's Ouka]
first. you should resnap all notes after changed timing!
and HP Drain Rate is 8, your should add more combo set
so here is my modding without combo mod(all diff)
00:02:268 - no break
00:35:598 - haaaa....
01:36:050 (1) - hmmmm.....
01:43:501 - ehhhhh...
02:31:522 - distance!
02:23:862 (1) - it too long,i lost so many HP about |--------------------------------------------------------| this much HP in HDR 8. you could add note here (02:27:174 -)and spinner end in blue line

[Insane]
00:08:271 (1) - distance?
00:14:275 - why?
00:34:563 - distance
01:22:178 - ^
01:22:592 - BAT hate this
03:14:586 (4,5) - left 1 grid

[ddd519's Koi]
nothing find
soulfear
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soulfear
歌名:Rengetsu Ouka
Yumeko Yuki
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Yumeko Yuki

sico91212 wrote:

[Yumeko's Ouka]
first. you should resnap all notes after changed timing!
and HP Drain Rate is 8, your should add more combo set
so here is my modding without combo mod(all diff)
00:02:268 - no break
00:35:598 - haaaa....
01:36:050 (1) - hmmmm.....
01:43:501 - ehhhhh...
02:31:522 - distance!
02:23:862 (1) - it too long,i lost so many HP about |--------------------------------------------------------| this much HP in HDR 8. you could add note here (02:27:174 -)and spinner end in blue line
ok i've decreased HP Drain and now it's ok,thx :)

Download: Kozato snow - Koi Gatsu Ouka (_Kiva) [Yumeko's Ouka].osu
Aleks719
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Gatsu
Please mod all diffs EXCEPT 3.5star
skipped

ddd519's Koi
01:32:218 (7) - remove note
02:29:977 (9) - ^

Insane
Interesting choice of hitsounds.
00:02:889 (x) - add note
00:02:992 (x) - ^
00:11:791 (2) - replace 1/4 early
00:49:680 (5) - finish at start sounds bad, change it.
~2:17 - 2:26 - sounds like techno. fun :3
02:46:742 (2) - add note

Yumeko's Ouka
omg, perfect
_Kiva
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_Kiva

soulfear wrote:

歌名:Rengetsu Ouka
._.
THANKS FOR REMINDING
Will change before pending~
sico91212
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sico91212
你的BPM和offset实在让我无法接受，但我暂时也没办法确定正确的timing.这歌似乎有ddr3的bms，我会试着找找。
_Kiva
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_Kiva

sico91212 wrote:

你的BPM和offset实在让我无法接受，但我暂时也没办法确定正确的timing.这歌似乎有ddr3的bms，我会试着找找。
OFFSET i think is 1026 , but there is another offset at somewhere near 02:00:26 (120266). which i couldnt sure
about the bpm , i got from a bpm finding software and fixed with Pokie. But it is possible to have another BPM
Thanks for moding
sico91212
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http://wapp.baidu.com/f?tn=bdPLW&kz=927 ... pinf=1_2_0
sico91212
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sico91212
BPM测定软件是渣，pokie的BPM在无变奏处都需要两个offset来修减误差，而且我手测结果也和它相去甚远，这结果让我不能接受
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