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MisakaMikoto
:)
Topic Starter
CCHV-16

LKs wrote:

整体难度分布稍显拥挤 建议最简单难度下到3.2左右为宜
offest很好
touhou放source OK
tag里不能用标点 OK
这skin是从mafia那里借鉴来的吗 是借鉴来的,但不知道是不是mafia的...是不是要写声明

mafiamaster wrote:

Some custom skin parts: DJNightmare & MoonFragrance.
Normal

[00:26:633] 这里Whistle slider结尾的删去 DONE
[00:27:491] 两头全Whistle 结尾加一个finish DONE
[00:33:062] 选中slider 最右边的point 向上四个格 中间的point 向上一格 DONE
[00:34:133] Whistle DONE
[00:45:062] 这里两个slider不太好 不要让他们的body粘站在一起 考虑reset 已RESET
[00:54:491] 这里不要Whistle DONE
[第一个ki-ai] 都不太给力 间距问题比较大 slider摆放相比之前不够合理 第一个KIAI部分已REMAP
[01:26:848] 要避讳这种微M形slider 转变成S形 DONE
[01:53:633] finish降低音量15~18% 后面复制的那个一样 DONE
[02:22:348] 变成标准间距 向下几个格子 已重排
[02:32:205] 不好看 RESET了

Hard

[01:23:407] 用Whistle不是clap DONE
..x_x
第一段的音效照着你那片绿线密集区的做法即可 现在这样反而不好 音效已重下
[03:12:479] 这2个Whistle不需要 太刺耳 DONE

提一句比较深远的就是 任何好map绝对不是给人看瞎眼听瞎耳才叫好 那只叫做蛋疼
只有被广大人民群众理解的 才是好的
说的有点虚 具体就是比如你这个hard开头的音效 能看出你想做丰富的想法 但是适得其反了有点 就是乱了节奏
反而不如24clap来的舒服 所有音效都是在让人抓住节奏的基础上 再进行创新丰富的(但是现在osu能做到前一点的人也不多了)
音效也要有节奏 有节奏才能被玩家理解 玩家理解了 map的目的才达到了 所以map的难点在与怎么做出又能被轻松认识透彻又令人想象不到的 还要是经证实的好的设计

Lunatic

[00:37:764] whistle? DONE
[00:42:764] 这东西比较危险 RESET完毕
~[01:03:746] 这之前的一系列的clap降低音量15% DONE
[01:43:764] 声音太大 DONE
[02:18:050] 音量 后面复制的同 DONE

音量的控制需要注意

这张map里看到你很多想法 不错的想法 基本东西也都有
以后要注意的就是一个度的问题 所谓真理也是有范围的 哪怕向同一个方向多出一步 真理也可能变成谬误
以后的map 加什么 不加什么对你来说已经没什么问题 问题在于加多少 加多大的量 把握好这个


star
yanhan1064
star :)
wmfchris
I don't know if this is too long.

[Lunatic]
00:28:764 (4) - left 1 grid
00:33:907 (5,6,7,8) - up 1 grid
00:50:836 (1) - down 2 grids
01:35:621 (4) - right 1 grid
02:00:479 (1) - remove new combo
02:17:836 (1,2,3) - uneven spacing
03:32:407 (2,3) - up 2 grids
04:38:407 (1) - change to triplet slider + note?
quite creative~ :/

[Hard]
Only hard starts later?!?
02:58:764 (1,2,3,4) - stack ending of (1,2), and (3,4) respectively?
03:46:657 (x) - lol this timing section
quite good

nice song, star~
artpiggo
For Ranked, you have to make under 3 star map too ;)

Normal
00 42 491 wrong distance snap
01 08 205 ^
01 32 633 finish sound
01 06 062 wrong distance

You should check all of note which isn't in distance rule, I'm playing with confused - -

Hard
03 30 693 finish sound, i think
03 31 550 ^
03 31 979 ^
03 38 621 ^
03 39 907 ^
04 07 336 ^
04 08 193 ^
04 10 764 ^
04 11 621 ^
04 36 264 clap
05 01 336 maybe x2 BPM multiplier

Star !
When you have under-3 star map, I'll give you pink star , because I really love your hard diff ^^
willgan
:)
Selee
[General]
  • Tags: remove "nomico"(It's already in artist), add "HARMONY" (Album I think..) "Masayoshi Minoshima" (Arranger)

    (Vocal:nomico
    Arranger:Masayoshi Minoshima
    原曲:アリスマエステラ)

    BG resize to 800*600?

    hmm, 6 min mp3? Well, I suggest to crop the mp3 from beginning till 02:45:062...Sigh...

    Lead-in: 0ms (Because you didn't use the beginning part..)

    Remove all countdown...doesn't fit well

    Same combo color?

    Same stack leniency?

    Please don't abuse BPM change...Too many unexpected BPM changes...

    You don't necessary to have the skin elements...Just go storyboarding and choose TOUHOU for Skinning--Preferred Skin ...

    Add normal-hit as custom hitsound?
    Download: soft-hitclap.rar

    Use more normal-finish during kiai?

    Same kiai in all diff?
[Normal]

The slider velocity and distance spacing is a little high for newbies..

Too many copy paste parts ._. .....

  • 00:33:062 (3) - any point to slow down here?...
    00:40:348 (1) - Move left a little
    00:42:491 (1) - Remove new combo?
    00:46:776 (1) - ^
    00:45:062 (3) - Add new combo
    00:47:633 (3) - ^
    01:05:633 (1,2) - Spacing
    01:19:347 (1,2) - ^
    01:21:062 (4,1) - ^
    01:29:205 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - hitsounds?
    02:31:348 (4) - Finish begin?
    02:34:776 (1) - Finish?
[Hard]

You can't use stack leniency like this..At least 2 tick plz.
Map the first part?
02:51:907-03:09:050 Why don't you use custom hitsound to save more time..
Much better than I expected, lol

Nice hitsounds~
some suggestions:

  • 01:29:621 (5) - clap end
    01:30:264 (6) - whistle
    04:33:050 (2) - Shorten it for 1/4 beat and add normal-finishes
    04:47:621 (1) - Finish
    04:52:336 (3,4,5) - Stacking (Disable grid snap, and use 0.0x distance spacing
[Insane]

Please don't silence any notes...

  • 00:58:764 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - please don't silence any of them...
    02:19:336 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^...
    01:50:193~02:03:478 (T) - soft-finishes are too loud here imo..
    02:44:514~02:45:050 (T) - hmm map something here?
划水不解释...╮(╯_╰)╭

Topic Starter
CCHV-16

artpiggo wrote:

For Ranked, you have to make under 3 star map too ;)

Normal
00 42 491 wrong distance snap fix
01 08 205 ^ fix
01 06 062 wrong distance fix

Hard
03 30 693 finish sound, i think
03 31 550 ^
03 31 979 ^
03 38 621 ^
03 39 907 ^
04 07 336 ^ I don't think soft finish sound fit this peaceful paragraphs > <
04 08 193 ^
04 10 764 ^
04 11 621 ^
04 36 264 clap done
05 01 336 maybe x2 BPM multiplier I shorten the silder and add a note instead of using a red line ^ ^

Star !
When you have under-3 star map, I'll give you pink star , because I really love your hard diff ^^easy done
Topic Starter
CCHV-16

Selee wrote:

[General]
  • Tags: remove "nomico"(It's already in artist), add "HARMONY" (Album I think..) "Masayoshi Minoshima" (Arranger)搞定

    (Vocal:nomico
    Arranger:Masayoshi Minoshima
    原曲:アリスマエステラ)

    BG resize to 800*600? )搞定

    SPOILER
    [attachment=0:602e8]bg.jpg[/attachment:602e8]

    hmm, 6 min mp3? Well, I suggest to crop the mp3 from beginning till 02:45:062...Sigh... 需要把最后1分钟剪了么,LUNA前面有货不能剪的说

    Lead-in: 0ms (Because you didn't use the beginning part..))搞定


    Remove all countdown...doesn't fit well)OK


    Same combo color?)已same


    Same stack leniency?)改好了


    Please don't abuse BPM change...Too many unexpected BPM changes...)多余绿线已删除

    You don't necessary to have the skin elements...Just go storyboarding and choose TOUHOU for Skinning--Preferred Skin ...之前没想到可以这么弄...

    Add normal-hit as custom hitsound?
    [attachment=1:602e8]soft-hitclap.rar[/attachment:602e8]已替换

    Use more normal-finish during kiai?

    Same kiai in all diff?
[Normal]

The slider velocity and distance spacing is a little high for newbies..改名NORMAL+然后做了一份EASY

Too many copy paste parts ._. .....

  • 00:33:062 (3) - any point to slow down here?...已取消0.5
    00:40:348 (1) - Move left a littleOK
    00:42:491 (1) - Remove new combo?
    00:46:776 (1) - ^
    00:45:062 (3) - Add new combo
    00:47:633 (3) - ^
    01:05:633 (1,2) - Spacing
    01:19:347 (1,2) - ^
    01:21:062 (4,1) - ^
    01:29:205 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - hitsounds?
    都改好了^ ^
    02:31:348 (4) - Finish begin? OK
    02:34:776 (1) - Finish?
OK

[Hard]

You can't use stack leniency like this..At least 2 tick plz.
Map the first part?那样会爆分的...
02:51:907-03:09:050 Why don't you use custom hitsound to save more time..做完才想到的...
Much better than I expected, lol

Nice hitsounds~
some suggestions:

  • 01:29:621 (5) - clap end
    01:30:264 (6) - whistle
    04:33:050 (2) - Shorten it for 1/4 beat and add normal-finishes觉得这样也可以的说,最后的finish+了
    04:47:621 (1) - Finish
    04:52:336 (3,4,5) - Stacking (Disable grid snap, and use 0.0x distance spacing
全改好了

[Insane]

Please don't silence any notes...

  • 00:58:764 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8) - please don't silence any of them...
    02:19:336 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - ^...
    01:50:193~02:03:478 (T) - soft-finishes are too loud here imo..
    02:44:514~02:45:050 (T) - hmm map something here?
这里本来不是有货么...
其他的都改好了

划水不解释...╮(╯_╰)╭
谢谢selee大人的MOD~
xinhe
8-) Star STRESS
asus10tu
:) star
NatsumeRin
Red: You must fix this.
Blue: You'd better do sth with this imo.
Green: Just suggestions.

[General]
Easy和Normal+都没有设preview time
offset:+8

[Easy]
00:29:621 (3) - Easy不要用各种花里胡哨的slider
00:33:050 (3) - ^,后面还有,我不列举了
01:07:336 (4) - 这以后的,break不要放在kiai段里。kiai该收了。另外一个段落连续重复4遍大多数情况下很恶心的
01:26:193 (2) - 这可能和1对称更好
01:30:050 (4,5,6) - 这串没必要,真是Easy的话你从这开始拉个两拍slider,再重复
01:53:621 (5) - 你觉得Easy这SV还不够慢吗,还0.5,前面那叠的更难看了。。。这段惨不忍睹
02:17:621 (1) - 从这里开始难度突然升高很多,建议自重
02:36:693 (2) - 这真是Easy?
有不少部分要砍了重练

[Normal+]
AR+2
slider tick rate:1
00:26:193 (1,2,3,4) - 这个开头建议排开点自重点
00:33:050 (3) - 别。另外你漏了whistle
00:34:764 (4,5) - 连续3个这样slider不好玩
00:40:764 (2,3) - 距离
00:45:907 (2,3) - 压力
01:03:050 (3,1) - 这俩弄一个形状不好吗
以下复制粘贴段再见。
01:26:836 (5) - 折返点节奏有误,还有这种变速最好别要
01:30:264 (3) - 一个circle就行了
01:36:478 (3,4,5) - spacing
01:46:764 (1,1) - Normal别搞这个,spinner后出的太快了。这之后的break过短,去掉
02:04:764 (2,3) - spacing
02:21:907 (3,4) - 这一kiai的spacing怎么乱七八糟的
02:45:050 (1) - 非扔那么远?中间有啥问题吗
凑合能用,但不够工整也不够有梗

[Hard]
01:39:907 & 01:40:336 - 加音
03:13:336 (3) - 这后面的段没加好音效啊。。没做完?
04:33:050 (2,1) - 这个spacing最好还是改下
04:55:979 (1) - 这spinner最好别,太可怕了,尤其还在后面,miss一个估计就找你算账
对比一下看出差距……

[Lunatic]
00:26:621 (3,4) - 距离突然变了你不别扭吗。
00:29:836 (8,9,10) - 不好看发自真心
00:55:550 (2,3) - 这别这么用,要么3 circle要么就一个slider,至于什么时候用我觉得你慢慢再体会。。。
00:57:264 (2,3) - 类似
01:02:193 (1) - 这一串你觉得好看吗
01:08:621 (1) - 这后面的kiai去掉,里面不能有break的
01:27:478 (7) - sliderwhistle去掉,你的0.5比较莫名其妙不过先无所谓了。
01:40:443 (8) - 首先,减一重复,再之前加个1/4circle,这按的很别扭,然后sliderwhistle
01:41:193 (11) - sliderwhistle
01:43:550 (3,4) - 看不出是1/4
01:50:193 (1,1,2,3,1,2,3) - 这怎么下的音效,鼠标一圈点个finish?
01:57:050 (1,1,2,3,4,5,6) - 好省事
02:19:978 (4,5,6,7) - 你这么摆,567实际都要按蓝线,试过这有多别扭吗。
03:14:621 (11,1) - spacing
03:16:336 (7,8,9,10) - slider被挡了,这并不好
03:22:336 (7,1) - spacing
03:37:979 (11) - 结尾点错了,hold我先不追究
04:41:836 (1) - 莫名其妙,前面的1.5x也莫名其妙
04:47:621 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - 好看吗
除了Hard可以全大改。狠点吧。
Dusty
captalize "touhou" -> "Touhou"

[Easy]
02:07:344 (5,1) - jump is crazy! :o
02:12:487 (3) - not stacked right, delete and re-add?

[Normal+]
You can just call it "Normal" I think, especially since you already have an Easy :?
Not important though

*star
a970825
star :(
hez
:) star
NatsumeRin
recheck as request:

[Easy]
02:30:478 (1,2) - spacing

[Normal+]
00:28:764 (1) - remove new combo
00:49:764 (4,6) - whistle
02:03:050 (1,2,1) - spacing
02:45:050 (1) - 就放正中间吧。。。Easy也是。。我没明白放右上到底有啥含义。。

[Hard]
Download: nomico - Alice Maestera (CCAV-9) [Hard hitsounds].osu
那段我重排了下

[Lunatic]
大概我没看到什么问题
Topic Starter
CCHV-16

Dusty wrote:

captalize "touhou" -> "Touhou"

[Easy]
02:07:344 (5,1) - jump is crazy! :oFIX
02:12:487 (3) - not stacked right, delete and re-add?FIX

[Normal+]
You can just call it "Normal" I think, especially since you already have an Easy :? I think this diff is a little hard than normal...
Not important though

*star
Topic Starter
CCHV-16

NatsumeRin wrote:

recheck as request:

[Easy]
02:30:478 (1,2) - spacing

[Normal+]
00:28:764 (1) - remove new combo
00:49:764 (4,6) - whistle
02:03:050 (1,2,1) - spacing
02:45:050 (1) - 就放正中间吧。。。Easy也是。。我没明白放右上到底有啥含义。。

[Hard]
[attachment=0:cf6bf]nomico - Alice Maestera (CCAV-9) [Hard hitsounds].osu[/attachment:cf6bf]
那段我重排了下

[Lunatic]
大概我没看到什么问题
全部修改完毕,放角落纯属个人的恶趣味而已
非常感谢铃大人极其耐心的mod和remod(鞠躬)
K o h a k u
i love this map <3 star ;)
Reiji-RJ
Hi~

General

  • 00:55:336 - don't like kiai time here, I suggest to do it here: 00:27:907. But it's your call~
[Easy]

  1. 00:27:907 (1) - finish
  2. 00:31:336 (1) - ^
  3. 00:37:336 (x) - add a note?
  4. 00:37:764 (x) - ^
  5. 00:38:193 (1) - finish?
  6. 00:41:621 (2) - finish
  7. 00:45:590 (1) - ^
  8. 00:55:336 (1) - finish
  9. 01:08:193 (x) - make time section (green line) after this beat
  10. 01:22:764 (1) - finish
  11. 01:37:336 (2) - put this slider on 01:37:121 and extend to 01:38:621
  12. 01:50:193 (1) - finish
  13. 01:57:050 (1) - ^
  14. 02:03:907 (1) - ^
  15. 02:10:764 (2) - ^
  16. 02:17:621 (1) - ^
  17. 02:21:050 (1) - ^
  18. 02:24:479 (1) - ^
  19. 02:31:336 (2) - ^
  20. 02:40:764 (x) - add note?
  21. 02:41:193 (x) - ^
  22. 02:45:050 (1) - finish
[Normal]

  • uuh, slider velocity is the same as in [Hard], may be decrease it? Don't know..
  1. 00:27:907 (1) - finish
  2. 00:31:336 (1) - ^
  3. 00:41:621 (3) - finish
  4. 00:45:590 (1) - ^
  5. 01:22:764 (3) - finish
  6. 01:36:479 (3) - finish
  7. 01:54:479 (5) - delete finish in the end of slider
  8. 02:01:336 (5) - ^
  9. 02:03:907 (1) - finish
  10. 02:17:621 (1) - ^
  11. 02:01:050 (1) - ^
  12. 02:31:336 (5) - ^
  13. 02:34:764 (3) - ^
[Hard]

  • Eeh, why about 1 minute is blank in the beginning? :c
  1. 01:22:764 (3) - finish in the end of slider
  2. 01:36:479 (3) - ^ in the beginning
  3. 01:57:050 (1) - ^
  4. 02:03:907 (3) - ^
  5. 02:17:621 (1) - ^
  6. 02:31:336 (1) - ^
  7. 03:53:621 (1) - ^
  8. 04:03:907 (1) - may be extend to 04:06:907?
  9. 04:21:050 (3) - finish
  10. 04:24:479 (1) - ^
[Lunatic]

  1. 00:55:336 - may be reduce sound volume?
  2. 01:22:764 (3) - finish in the end
  3. 01:36:479 (1) - finish in the beginning
  4. 02:17:621 (1) - ^
  5. 02:32:193 (9) - new combo?
  6. 02:18:586 (x) - why kiai stops here? :c
  7. 03:12:479 (3) - finish
  8. 03:26:193 (4) - ^
  9. 04:00:479 (3) - ^ (?)
  10. 04:07:336 (1) - ^
  11. 04:10:764 (1) - ^
  12. 04:17:621 (2) - ^
  13. 05:02:193 (x) - add note?
Good map, star~
And good luck
Topic Starter
CCHV-16

Reiji-RJ wrote:

Hi~

General

  • 00:55:336 - don't like kiai time here, I suggest to do it here: 00:27:907. But it's your call~
[Easy]

  1. 00:27:907 (1) - finishdone
  2. 00:31:336 (1) - ^done
  3. 00:37:336 (x) - add a note?> <
  4. 00:37:764 (x) - ^> <
  5. 00:38:193 (1) - finish?done
  6. 00:41:621 (2) - finishdone
  7. 00:45:590 (1) - ^ done
  8. 00:55:336 (1) - finishdone
  9. 01:08:193 (x) - make time section (green line) after this beatdone
  10. 01:22:764 (1) - finishdone
  11. 01:37:336 (2) - put this slider on 01:37:121 and extend to 01:38:621done
  12. 01:50:193 (1) - finishdone
  13. 01:57:050 (1) - ^done
  14. 02:03:907 (1) - ^done
  15. 02:10:764 (2) - ^done
  16. 02:17:621 (1) - ^done
  17. 02:21:050 (1) - ^done
  18. 02:24:479 (1) - ^done
  19. 02:31:336 (2) - ^done
  20. 02:40:764 (x) - add note?> <
  21. 02:41:193 (x) - ^> <
  22. 02:45:050 (1) - finish
done

[Normal]

  • uuh, slider velocity is the same as in [Hard], may be decrease it? Don't know.. So I call this diff normal+ ^ ^
  1. 00:27:907 (1) - finishdone
  2. 00:31:336 (1) - ^done
  3. 00:41:621 (3) - finishdone
  4. 00:45:590 (1) - ^> <
  5. 01:22:764 (3) - finish> <
  6. 01:36:479 (3) - finish> <
  7. 01:54:479 (5) - delete finish in the end of sliderdone
  8. 02:01:336 (5) - ^done
  9. 02:03:907 (1) - finish> <
  10. 02:17:621 (1) - ^done
  11. 02:01:050 (1) - ^done
  12. 02:31:336 (5) - ^done
  13. 02:34:764 (3) - ^
done

[Hard]

  • Eeh, why about 1 minute is blank in the beginning? :c If don't,This will be app > <
  1. 01:22:764 (3) - finish in the end of sliderdone
  2. 01:36:479 (3) - ^ in the beginningdone
  3. 01:57:050 (1) - ^done
  4. 02:03:907 (3) - ^done
  5. 02:17:621 (1) - ^done
  6. 02:31:336 (1) - ^done
  7. 03:53:621 (1) - ^done
  8. 04:03:907 (1) - may be extend to 04:06:907?done
  9. 04:21:050 (3) - finish> <
  10. 04:24:479 (1) - ^
> <

[Lunatic]

  1. 00:55:336 - may be reduce sound volume?done
  2. 01:22:764 (3) - finish in the end> <
  3. 01:36:479 (1) - finish in the beginning> <
  4. 02:17:621 (1) - ^done
  5. 02:32:193 (9) - new combo?done
  6. 02:18:586 (x) - why kiai stops here? :c fix
  7. 03:12:479 (3) - finish? done
  8. 03:26:193 (4) - ^ done
  9. 04:00:479 (3) - ^ (?) > <
  10. 04:07:336 (1) - ^done
  11. 04:10:764 (1) - ^done
  12. 04:17:621 (2) - ^> <
  13. 05:02:193 (x) - add note? done
Good map, star~
And good luck
Thx~
Musty
It's unrankable : 6mins...

[BakaHard]

01:48:264 (8) - New Combo?
02:15:479 (1) - end the spinner here : 02:17:193 -

also, nice first work! :D
Topic Starter
CCHV-16

Mustaash wrote:

It's unrankable : 6mins... hard total play time only 199s,won't be
[BakaHard]

01:48:264 (8) - New Combo? done
02:15:479 (1) - end the spinner here : 02:17:193 - done

also, nice first work! :D
chhfoxer
star~
chhfoxer
为什么要把lunatic删了列?
Hellzero
Easy
Fine~

Normal
00:27:058 (3,4) - spacing
00:34:772 (7,8) - stack end
01:26:629 (4,5) - 1 grid up

BakaHard
01:27:486 (6,7) - 1 grid right
03:20:629 (8,9,10,11,12) - ^
03:28:772 (1) - 1 grid up and 1 right?
04:07:344 (1) - finish?
04:10:772 (1) - ^

Lunatic
Timing:
01:08:629 - end kiai here
01:50:201 - start kiai here
02:20:675 - remove timing point
02:20:844 - ^
02:22:558 - ^
02:30:487 - ^
02:30:701 - ^
02:31:344 - start kiai here
02:41:629 - end kiai here
04:34:772 - start kiai here
04:47:629 - remove timing point
04:48:487 - start kiai here

04:16:558 (6,1) - stack

Star~
Topic Starter
CCHV-16

Hellzero wrote:

Easy
Fine~

Normal
00:27:058 (3,4) - spacing Nice
00:34:772 (7,8) - stack end Nice
01:26:629 (4,5) - 1 grid up Nice

BakaHard
01:27:486 (6,7) - 1 grid right Nice
03:20:629 (8,9,10,11,12) - ^ Nice
03:28:772 (1) - 1 grid up and 1 right? Nice
04:07:344 (1) - finish? Great
04:10:772 (1) - ^ > <

Lunatic
Timing:
01:08:629 - end kiai here Nice
01:50:201 - start kiai here Nice
02:20:675 - remove timing point Well
02:20:844 - ^ Well
02:22:558 - ^ Well
02:30:487 - ^ Well
02:30:701 - ^ Well
02:31:344 - start kiai here Well
02:41:629 - end kiai here Well
04:34:772 - start kiai here Well
04:47:629 - remove timing point Nice
04:48:487 - start kiai here Nice

04:16:558 (6,1) - stack Nice

Star~
Thx very much~
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