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abraker
I am telepathic
Westonini
osht. wait, then in that case aren't you able to tell who the baddies are?
abraker
it only works if they are taking about mafia stuff
abraker
*taking -> thinking
Westonini
damn so you're basically saying that the mafia members are so well hidden among us to the point that even their minds don't shed a hint of malice? perhaps they don't even realize they're apart of the mafia..
abraker
yes

vote: Westonini
Westonini
aw
Death
Clearly it's Penguin's intention to eliminate everyone as fast as possible.

Vote: Penguin
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.2
Husa (1) - Penguin
Westonini (1) - abraker
Penguin (1) - Death

Not Voting (5) - Husa, cravenfinder, Westonini, keremal, GuyInFreezer
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 8th 2019 - 5:22 PM EST
Penguin
clearly!
abraker
Penguin has been marked by Death

see what I did there e◡e
Westonini
Please allow me to have a few more minutes to think about that one abraker.
abraker
vote: Westonini

for good measure
Westonini

Westonini wrote:

aw
keremaru
oh shit.
it's way too early in the game to start lynching people but ok lmao

Death wrote:

Clearly it's Penguin's intention to eliminate everyone as fast as possible.


clearly, unless you're guessing at him being a detective :harddthonq:

Vote: Death

unless you can't vote against someone who already voted, then in that case i'll go with No vote.
- don't wanna go killing first day, qwq
abraker

keremal wrote:

- don't wanna go killing first day, qwq
The only way someone won't be lynched is if there are absolutely no votes for anyone
Penguin

keremal wrote:

oh shit.
it's way too early in the game to start lynching people but ok lmao

keremal wrote:

Vote: Death
contradicting yourself, huh?
keremaru

abraker wrote:

keremal wrote:

- don't wanna go killing first day, qwq
The only way someone won't be lynched is if there are absolutely no votes for anyone

meant me personally, not sure about the rest of you zzz

Penguin wrote:

keremal wrote:

oh shit.
it's way too early in the game to start lynching people but ok lmao

keremal wrote:

Vote: Death


contradicting yourself, huh?

all about that self-contradictory today xf
Husa

Penguin wrote:

makes sense.

Vote: Husa
now that is a big thonktea for me.... ewe
GuyInFreezer

abraker wrote:

Do you hear that? "I'm gonna vote a townie, but it's a friendly vote because I am town and town does not lynch other fellow town."
That sounds like a scum trying to make himself appear as town. I'm on to you ( =.=)<

But how do ya know that Husa is town?
abraker
I don't.
Husa
Vote: GuyInFreezer
Penguin
Sus list: kere

Possibly sus list: Westo, craven

Kere is playing the "I'm town so I don't want to kill anyone yet!" card which makes me think he's trying to come off as town.

Westo is just kinda spouting off randomly and craven is in the same category as kere.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.3
Husa (1) - Penguin
Westonini (1) - abraker
Penguin (1) - Death
Death (1) - keremal
GuyInFreezer (1) - Husa

Not Voting (3) - cravenfinder, Westonini, GuyInFreezer
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 8th 2019 - 5:22 PM EST
abraker

Penguin wrote:

Kere is playing the "I'm town so I don't want to kill anyone yet!" card which makes me think he's trying to come off as town.
All Kere said was

keremal wrote:

oh shit.
it's way too early in the game to start lynching people but ok lmao...

unless you can't vote against someone who already voted, then in that case i'll go with No vote.
- don't wanna go killing first day, qwq
AND YOU SAID

Penguin wrote:

No reason, I just wanted to throw a vote out there. I don't plan on actually lynching Husa lol
"I'm gonna vote a townie, but it's a friendly vote because I am town and town does not lynch other fellow town."

goddamn hypocrite scum
Penguin
First off, my vote was RVS, so you're accusation of me is completely baseless.

Secondly, there's a huge interpretable difference between what I said and what kere said. I was merely explaining to you that I was RVSing. Meanwhile, kere seems to be trying to act innocent and friendly to deceive us.

Based on your reaction to what I've been saying, it seems like you are trying to find small and random accusations, which make no sense, so that you can put others in the spotlight while keeping the attention off of yourself.



abraker wrote:

"I'm gonna vote a townie, but it's a friendly vote because I am town and town does not lynch other fellow town."

This theory makes no sense. What does "friendly vote" even mean?
Seems like youre trying to defend Kere though, makes me wonder..
abraker

Penguin wrote:

This theory makes no sense. What does "friendly vote" even mean?
it means that one votes the other of the same party to fend off suspicion

Penguin wrote:

First off, my vote was RVS, so you're accusation of me is completely baseless.
Your claim that your vote was RVS may as well be a lie

Penguin wrote:

Secondly, there's a huge interpretable difference between what I said and what kere said. I was merely explaining to you that I was RVSing. Meanwhile, kere seems to be trying to act innocent and friendly to deceive us.
I dont see it. How should I come to such conclusion?

Penguin wrote:

Based on your reaction to what I've been saying, it seems like you are trying to find small and random accusations, which make no sense, so that you can put others in the spotlight while keeping the attention off of yourself.
Nice try but it's going to take more than that to bounce back suspicion toward me. The way you reply and the way you react is evidence. The small and random accusations you speak of is nothing more than you trying to get me off your back.

Also here is a good example in how you reply and react tells me you are scum. You panicking lowers your logical ability. So much so that you fail to find contradictions in your own writing. Observe:

Penguin wrote:

First off, my vote was RVS

Penguin wrote:

Meanwhile, kere seems to be trying to act innocent and friendly to deceive us.
So did you vote because of RVS or did you vote because you think kere seems to be trying to act innocent and friendly to deceive us? So much for small and random accusations. That will not fly as your accuse, scum.
abraker
*accuse -> excuse
Penguin

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

This theory makes no sense. What does "friendly vote" even mean?
it means that one votes the other of the same party to fend off suspicion

Still makes no sense, voting for a townie wouldn't fend off suspicion at all. Nobody knows who's a townie at this stage anyways.


abraker wrote:

Your claim that your vote was RVS may as well be a lie

Why?

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

Secondly, there's a huge interpretable difference between what I said and what kere said. I was merely explaining to you that I was RVSing. Meanwhile, kere seems to be trying to act innocent and friendly to deceive us.
I dont see it. How should I come to such conclusion?

Because I was claiming that I was RVSing and Kere was claiming he didn't want to lynch anyone so soon. I never tried to claim that I don't want to lynch anyone so that I would come off as sweet and innocent. I only explained that my vote was RVS because you asked why I voted. It's not so hard to tell the difference.

abraker wrote:

Nice try but it's going to take more than that to bounce back suspicion toward me. The way you reply and the way you react is evidence. The small and random accusations you speak of is nothing more than you trying to get me off your back.

This literally made no sense.

abraker wrote:

Also here is a good example in how you reply and react tells me you are scum. You panicking lowers your logical ability. So much so that you fail to find contradictions in your own writing. Observe:

Penguin wrote:

First off, my vote was RVS

Penguin wrote:

Meanwhile, kere seems to be trying to act innocent and friendly to deceive us.


So did you vote because of RVS or did you vote because you think kere seems to be trying to act innocent and friendly to deceive us?

Need I remind you that I only ever voted for Husa as an RVS at the very beginning of the game? I never voted for kere, so your argument is null. I have not contradicted myself at all.

Also, your argument about me "panicking" makes no sense since I have all the time in the world to read and post since this is a forum based game. Once again, it just seems like you're trying to make baseless accusations on trivial and senseless things.

Vote: abraker
abraker
Ok got the reaction I wanted
Penguin is a safe town read
Penguin

abraker wrote:

Ok got the reaction I wanted
Penguin is a safe town read

You're possibly saying this because you realize your faults and now your trying to backtrack and do damage control.

But you really weren't making much sense. You're usually very well put together and logical on the forums, so maybe it was a test. You might be town, but I'm still very suspisious of you.
Westonini

abraker wrote:

Ok got the reaction I wanted
Penguin is a safe town read


Why do you think so? Is it because he stayed calm and collective while under fire? I'm not asking this to accuse Penguin or anything, but I believe most would react the way he did. Townie or not.
GuyInFreezer

abraker wrote:

Ok got the reaction I wanted
Penguin is a safe town read

Now you gotta share with us what was the reaction you were looking for and how penguin met the expectation.
Rxn testing 101.
GuyInFreezer

Westonini wrote:

abraker wrote:

Ok got the reaction I wanted
Penguin is a safe town read
Why do you think so? Is it because he stayed calm and collective while under fire? I'm not asking this to accuse Penguin or anything, but I believe most would react the way he did. Townie or not.
Apparently I missed this post and I posted the literally same thing. rippo
abraker
Main reason is because Penguin did not vote me after all that and remained on Husa. Give mafia a reason to vote someone and they will take it, and that will be their excuse when the lynched does turn town.
abraker
Oh wait he did. I'll reply again when I have the beer out of my system :\
Westonini
Wait, but he did vote for you.

Penguin wrote:

Vote: abraker
Westonini
understandable have a nice day.
Penguin

abraker wrote:

Main reason is because Penguin did not vote me after all that and remained on Husa. Give mafia a reason to vote someone and they will take it, and that will be their excuse when the lynched does turn town.

I was expecting an actual reason for your "scum bait". A simple vote isn't sufficient enough to determine a scum read. Now just seems like you're trying to make an excuse to cover up for your scum-like behavior before.
Penguin
I don't buy the whole "beer" thing at all too lmao. Sounds like you're stretching for excuses.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.4
Westonini (1) - abraker
Penguin (1) - Death
Death (1) - keremal
GuyInFreezer (1) - Husa
abraker (1) - Penguin

Not Voting (3) - cravenfinder, Westonini, GuyInFreezer
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 8th 2019 - 5:22 PM EST
abraker

Penguin wrote:

I don't buy the whole "beer" thing at all too lmao. Sounds like you're stretching for excuses.
I tried to correct myself right after it. It's not like I didn't see it until now. Definitely was not thinking straight.

Penguin wrote:

I was expecting an actual reason for your "scum bait". A simple vote isn't sufficient enough to determine a scum read. Now just seems like you're trying to make an excuse to cover up for your scum-like behavior before.
you are right

Westonini wrote:

Wait, but he did vote for you.

abraker wrote:

Oh wait he did. I'll reply again when I have the beer out of my system :\


At this point I want to hear more from Death, cravenfiner, and Husa
Penguin

abraker wrote:

At this point I want to hear more from Death, cravenfiner, and Husa
I agree with this.

If my scum read is correct on abraker, then Kere is probably a safe scum read as well; with my initial suspicion on him, including abraker seemingly trying to defend him.
Westonini

abraker wrote:

Westonini wrote:

Wait, but he did vote for you.

abraker wrote:

Oh wait he did. I'll reply again when I have the beer out of my system :\


Yeah, I sent that message almost immediately after yours. It wasn't there while I typed mine.
Westonini
not sure who I should vote on. there's not too much to go off of. the fact that half of us are pretty silent doesn't make it any easier. guess i'll just wait n' see.
Husa
Unvote
Death

abraker wrote:

At this point I want to hear more from Death, cravenfiner, and Husa
Hi
abraker
Oh hi Death, what's a mafia scum like you up to these days?
Westonini


Basically this game.
Penguin
It'd be cool if people discussed what has happened in this game so far.
Westonini
By the way, if someone doesn't reach 5 votes to be lynched by Feb 8th, does no one get lynched or does the person with the most votes get lynched?
abraker
That's how the mafia works
abraker

Westonini wrote:

By the way, if someone doesn't reach 5 votes to be lynched by Feb 8th, does no one get lynched or does the person with the most votes get lynched?
If it's a tie, first voted person in tie gets lynched
otherwise the one with most votes
Westonini

abraker wrote:

That's how the mafia works

I made an effort to not actually type that.
abraker
It's ok, you can show your true colors
nobody is going to lynch you for it


hehe
Westonini
hmmmm
abraker

Penguin wrote:

It'd be cool if people discussed what has happened in this game so far.
So far it's just me accusing of everyone being mafia, getting drunk, and having a logical short circuit.
Penguin

abraker wrote:

Westonini wrote:

By the way, if someone doesn't reach 5 votes to be lynched by Feb 8th, does no one get lynched or does the person with the most votes get lynched?
If it's a tie, first voted person in tie gets lynched
otherwise the one with most votes

Sakura wrote:

if the day reaches deadline before a majority is reached, the day will end with a No Lynch."
I'm pretty sure you're incorrect. Unless I am misinterpreting something, idk
Westonini
Its been like three days and I already forgot that was in the rules.
GuyInFreezer
abraker is this your first game ever
abraker

Penguin wrote:

abraker wrote:

Westonini wrote:

By the way, if someone doesn't reach 5 votes to be lynched by Feb 8th, does no one get lynched or does the person with the most votes get lynched?
If it's a tie, first voted person in tie gets lynched
otherwise the one with most votes

Sakura wrote:

if the day reaches deadline before a majority is reached, the day will end with a No Lynch."
I'm pretty sure you're incorrect. Unless I am misinterpreting something, idk
Some games have have different rules. Maybe last one I played had it different

GuyInFreezer wrote:

abraker is this your first game ever
It's prob my 5th or 6th. It's been several months since my last one
Penguin

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

It'd be cool if people discussed what has happened in this game so far.
So far it's just me accusing of everyone being mafia, getting drunk, and having a logical short circuit.
again, I don't believe the "drunk" excuse
abraker
What do I have to gain by making a mistake and then correcting myself in a follow up post a few seconds later?
Penguin
My point is that I think you're trying to get people to brush off your scum behavior by claiming that you're drinking.
abraker
explain how my behavior is scum like
GuyInFreezer

abraker wrote:

It's prob my 5th or 6th. It's been several months since my last one
Darn.
Here I thought I could get an easy read.
abraker

GuyInFreezer wrote:

abraker wrote:

It's prob my 5th or 6th. It's been several months since my last one
Darn.
Here I thought I could get an easy read.
Go ahead and go through my previous games if you'd like

https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=3
https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=137
https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=161
https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=264
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/625397
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/552912
Penguin
First off, you tried to counter my scumread of Kere and defend him, while trying to put suspicion on me. When you started making no sense in your arguments, you suddenly posted:

abraker wrote:

Ok got the reaction I wanted
Penguin is a safe town read
You didn't even explain how you were scum testing until GuyInFreezer and Westo asked you. I believe that you were just trying to do damage control because you realized that your arguments made no sense and that you were looking very scummy. By saying that you think I'm a safe town read, you were trying to get me to dismiss my suspicions about you. Trying to make me feel safe with you or something. Plus, when you did tell us how you scum tested, it wasn't even a solid scum test.
Penguin
You brought up that you've been "drinking" to us twice now too. Seems like you're subtly trying to make excuses.
abraker

Penguin wrote:

You didn't even explain how you were scum testing until GuyInFreezer and Westo asked you.
Normally you wouldn't do that until time is almost up. You don't want to lay all your cards on the table from the beginning, otherwise mafia scum will just adapt to everything.

Penguin wrote:

I believe that you were just trying to do damage control because you realized that your arguments made no sense and that you were looking very scummy
Trust me, that's not even close to damage control. I can't even consider that as damage control. Real damage control comes when you are one vote away from lynch and you got a possible mafia who can vote you for game victory, so you need to get one of the townies off your back asap. I speak from experience: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5855775

Penguin wrote:

By saying that you think I'm a safe town read, you were trying to get me to dismiss my suspicions about you. Trying to make me feel safe with you or something
Felt like that was the best way to end that. I had no more need to go out on the offensive against you

Penguin wrote:

Plus, when you did tell us how you scum tested, it wasn't even a solid scum test.
You can't possible do any solid test this early in the game. Everything is just to feel the waters, get info about how people react. It's the only thing you can do day 1 besides staying quiet.

Penguin wrote:

You brought up that you've been "drinking" to us twice now too. Seems like you're subtly trying to make excuses.
The second time was not an excuse, but a recap of what happened. I have no need to push an excuse that doesn't benefit me whatsoever
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.5
Westonini (1) - abraker
Penguin (1) - Death
Death (1) - keremal
abraker (1) - Penguin

Not Voting (4) - cravenfinder, Westonini, GuyInFreezer, Husa
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 8th 2019 - 5:22 PM EST

cravenfiner has been prodded
abraker
everyone, please subscribe to this thread so you dont forget it exists
Penguin

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

You didn't even explain how you were scum testing until GuyInFreezer and Westo asked you.
Normally you wouldn't do that until time is almost up. You don't want to lay all your cards on the table from the beginning, otherwise mafia scum will just adapt to everything.
I still feel like explaining yourself helps town more.

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

I believe that you were just trying to do damage control because you realized that your arguments made no sense and that you were looking very scummy
Trust me, that's not even close to damage control. I can't even consider that as damage control. Real damage control comes when you are one vote away from lynch and you got a possible mafia who can vote you for game victory, so you need to get one of the townies off your back asap. I speak from experience: https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/p/5855775
Using that example doesn't prove anything. Damage control is damage control. It doesn't matter that there's a more extreme form of damage control or not.

abraker wrote:

Penguin wrote:

You brought up that you've been "drinking" to us twice now too. Seems like you're subtly trying to make excuses.
The second time was not an excuse, but a recap of what happened. I have no need to push an excuse that doesn't benefit me whatsoever
I know that the second time wasn't specifically stated as an excuse. My point was that you're hinting at the fact that you're "drunk" and trying to subtly keep is in our minds which would make us think that your scumminess is moot because of your drinking.

Assuming that my scum read on you is correct, then you making excuses for your scumminess would benefit you.
cravenfiner

abraker wrote:

At this point I want to hear more from Death, cravenfiner, and Husa

i havent said much since im new at this and not great at investigations


abraker wrote:

everyone, please subscribe to this thread so you dont forget it exists

thank you for reminding me of this feature
GuyInFreezer

abraker wrote:

GuyInFreezer wrote:

abraker wrote:

It's prob my 5th or 6th. It's been several months since my last one
Darn.
Here I thought I could get an easy read.
Go ahead and go through my previous games if you'd like

https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=3
https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=137
https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=161
https://forums.tuuba.moe/viewtopic.php?id=264
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/625397
https://osu.ppy.sh/forum/t/552912
I'm going to flat out tell you that I won't read them.
I don't find it helpful unless I was in the game myself.

(Also I'm too lazy to read past games)
GuyInFreezer

cravenfiner wrote:

i havent said much since im new at this and not great at investigations
Still do tell me what you think about all this though.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Keremal has been prodded!
Westonini
With it being Day 1 the only thing everyone has to go off of is mostly contradictions and suspicious wording.

From my perspective right now, abraker does seem to be the most suspicious out of everyone thus far (or at least out of those who actually engage in conversations). If nothing changes I'll probably end up voting for him. We've got a lot of time left though, so who knows if it will end up changing.
abraker
the ones who talk the most always seem to talk themselves to the grave the fastest

funny how that happens
abraker
what I am trying to say is that if I did not want to get lynched I would have been more quiet because that strategy always works with newbies for reasons being demonstrated right now. Veterans are more keened to vote the silent ones out because they contribute least to the game
Penguin

abraker wrote:

the ones who talk the most always seem to talk themselves to the grave the fastest

funny how that happens
In my experience, the ones who talk themselves into the grave are, for the most part, actually scum. I don't ever have a problem with coming off as scum unless I actually play as scum. You're just more prone to subconsciously doing scummy things when you are scum. That's just me though, so idk.
Death

abraker wrote:

the ones who talk the most always seem to talk themselves to the grave the fastest

funny how that happens



abraker wrote:

That's how the mafia works
Westonini

abraker wrote:

the ones who talk the most always seem to talk themselves to the grave the fastest

funny how that happens


It seems only natural considering we've got practically nothing on the silent ones and it's only the first day.
abraker
westonini you missed the point

if I didn't want to get lynched then I would have been more quiet
Westonini
No I understood. All I'm saying is that it's not surprising that this was the outcome.
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.6
Westonini (1) - abraker
Penguin (1) - Death
Death (1) - keremal
abraker (1) - Penguin

Not Voting (4) - cravenfinder, Westonini, GuyInFreezer, Husa
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 8th 2019 - 5:22 PM EST
GuyInFreezer

Penguin wrote:

In my experience, the ones who talk themselves into the grave are, for the most part, actually scum.

It's actually case-by-case and playstyle has a high factor in it.
But I don't want to read his past games so do that for me.
Husa
need more information qwq
keremaru
wonder how stating lynching on first day was too early made me sus for mafioso, but ok. anything can be sus on first two days tbf
abraker

Husa wrote:

need more information qwq
you get info by accusing others or mafia. The price? You are now mafia according to everyone else.
cravenfiner

keremal wrote:

anything can be sus on first two days tbf

i agree with this
abraker
*you get info by accusing others of mafia
Penguin
so what's the plan?
abraker

sakura wrote:

i will randomize roles for every player in the game until there's at least 50% town players and at least 1 anti town player, i will continue to randomize until at least something's balanced and/or fun

I doubt 1 mafia vs 7 townies will make things balanced. That is because there is 1/8 chance you can lynch mafia day 1 and that will be end of game. That's not really fun. 3 mafia will be hellish because in worst case scenario you can get a townie lynched and another killed at night, making it 2 vs 3 by day two. To make things interesting, there could a third-party. But yea, 2 mafia is what we should be up against.

Given that, let's look at the vote list:

  • Voting: abraker, Death, keremal, Penguin
    Not voting: cravenfinder, Westonini, GuyInFreezer, Husa


I'd say there are good odds that there is one scum in the voting group and one scum in the not voting group.
abraker
My bad make 3 vs 3 if there are 3 mafia. Was thinking of 4 townie vs 3 mafia starting, which isn't right. That combo can also work. So make that 2-3 mafia in this game.
abraker
but I highly doubt 3. Will be surprised if so
Penguin
I agree with the 2 mafia theory. Maybe 2 mafia, 1 neutral makes the most sense?
Westonini
That's what I was thinking.
cravenfiner
sounds like a good estimate
Topic Starter
Sakura
Vote Count 1.7
Westonini (1) - abraker
Penguin (1) - Death
Death (1) - keremal
abraker (1) - Penguin

Not Voting (4) - cravenfinder, Westonini, GuyInFreezer, Husa
With 8 alive it takes 5 to lynch
Deadline: Feb 8th 2019 - 5:22 PM EST
Since it was brought up at some point, no this isnt plurality lynch, it's majority lynch, i've never been a fan of plurality
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