Nekomata Master feat. Mimi Nyami - TWINKLING [Taiko] · forum

bank78952

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bank78952 2016-10-13T17:15:34+00:00

snowball112 wrote:
Heya, random mod

Kantan
How about 00:13:815 k? Would good for overall structure and buildup as 00:29:605 is stronger, or maybe change 00:29:605 to K.
I think you should make the section starting at 00:13:815 more similar to the one before with 2/1 instead of 1/1, remove 00:14:999 and move 00:16:578 to 00:16:183.
Remove 00:17:762 for similar reason as ^.
Remove finish, the sound is not as strong as 00:29:605 for example, also looks better for structure. still keep not change
Add d on 00:31:973. I think you should try to have a note so you don't go back to too few notes after using more in the previous part.
00:38:289 add d and change 00:39:078 to k for the instrument sound.
Move 00:56:052 to 00:55:657 for better spacing or change to k to sound better with the clap here as well.
Move 01:02:368 to 01:03:157 because you have stronger vocal and instrument there.
01:00:394 d, even though it's for vocal, you have a strong clap right after this on 01:00:789 so I don't think k sounds good here. it still fine for me

Futsuu
I think you can remove a few notes in the beginning, the song is relatively calm:
00:03:157
00:03:157
00:04:736
This would be nice for emphasis of the long notes like 00:02:762.
How about you move 00:11:841 to 00:12:631 and change to k and change 00:13:026 to d? Would be nice for structure with 00:08:289 (13,14,15) and also consistent with Kantan.
I think you should try to make 00:16:183 (26,27,28,29,30,31) different, maybe kdd for the first pattern? Or remove 00:16:578 and 00:18:157 to have a bit lower density before the next section.
00:22:499 k, for consistency with Kantan.
00:35:131 k, same reason as ^
00:29:210 k, the clap is very strong.
00:38:683 (62,63) ctrl+g, the sound on the last note is stronger. it's fine not change
Move 00:52:894 to 00:54:078 and change both this note and 00:53:683 to d, would be nice for the vocal. nope
Move 01:07:894 to 01:07:105 and add a k on 01:09:473. I think something like this sounds better for the vocal.
01:11:052 move to 01:11:447 and change to d, if you follow the vocal you could emphasize the long sound on 01:10:657 this way. yay follow is good but i follow instrument here
01:27:828 d for consistency with 01:21:512. follow vocal here not change
I think you should remove 01:36:512. Why change to instrument sounds when you follow the vocal all this time?
You could move 01:47:368 to 01:47:762 and 01:48:947 to 01:49:341. This would be better for the long sounds on 01:48:552 for example and nicer for structure if you applied the changes at the beginning.

Muzukashii

Spread of this diff to Futsuu is not good. Futsuu has very low density and mostly 1/1 notes, with a few 1/2 in kiai, and muzu has longer 1/2 and 1/4 right from the beginning. You need to nerf this, especially the part from the beginning until 00:29:605. I suggest you reduce muzu notes by 50 to have a similar gap in objects between futsuu/muzu and muzu/oni. For example:
Remove 00:01:381 (2,3,4) for emphasis of the long sound of 00:01:184. only (2)
00:02:960 remove
00:14:407 and 00:14:506 remove
00:15:986 and 00:16:085 remove
00:17:861 ^
00:35:526 change to k, remove both 00:35:723 and 00:35:822 and 00:35:920 D. Try to make this finish consistent across your other diffs as well.
It would be good if you keep the parts before 00:42:236 a bit easier like you did in the other diffs and then build up density along with the vocal like you did in the other lower diffs.

Oni

After reducing density in muzu, you could also try to reduce a few notes in this diff.
remove 00:02:960 and 00:03:848.
00:28:223 remove
00:29:407 ^, for nicer emphasis of the finish on 00:29:605. You could remove 00:29:802 as well.
01:19:144 remove and 01:19:736 for better instrument emphasis. follow vocal here not change
Move 01:21:414 to 01:21:216 and change to d. The 1/4 in the music starts on 01:21:118 and not 01:21:315.
You could remove 01:21:907 and move 01:22:006 to 01:22:401. You can put better emphasis on the sound of 01:21:710 that way. And 01:21:512 and 01:22:894 should both be k for the strong vocal and clap. Or just remove 01:21:710 like you did in the later patterns. move to 01:21:907 - for better
I think 01:23:289 works better as d for the long sound, I know the vocal is strong, but the claps+vocal on 01:22:894 and 01:23:683 are stronger and you would stack too much k here otherwise.
01:34:539 d to make a nice kd dk with 01:33:947 (71,72). And 01:35:526 (79,80) ctrl+g would sound better for the clap+vocal on 01:35:526.
01:37:697 (88,89) ctrl+g for consistency with previous patterns.

Good luck

Thank you very much XD
p.s. reply only part without change anything (12 am here and so sleepy D:)

rew0825

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rew0825 2016-10-14T14:25:13+00:00

snowball112 wrote:
Heya, random mod

Rew's Inner Oni
If you listen carefully, 00:09:670 (45,46,47) and 00:10:065 (48,49,50) are also 1/6, not 1/4. I think you could just make them simpler for consistency and follow the melody with 1/2 and let the 1/6 be non-clickable because the song is not that intense. Because if you keep it this way my question would be "why on 00:08:091 (36,37,38,39) and not on 00:09:670 (45,46,47) if it's both 1/6 in the music". Applies to the part from 00:13:815 as well. You could try similar note density to what you mapped from 01:45:394. Ok change on 00:09:670 (45,46,47) and 00:10:065 (48,49,50)
00:30:493 should be moved to 00:30:690 for consistency within this part. sure
You have some case of mapping 1/4 where there is no support in the music, for example:
00:43:124 should be moved to 00:43:322, the 1/4 in the music starts on 00:43:223. ok move
Why is 1/4 starting from 00:44:605 when there are 1/4 drum sounds right after that starting on 00:44:999? This does not sound good in my opinion. yeah, you are true. Change it
The doubles at 00:53:782 do not emphasize this part well, the 1/4 and strong clap are on 00:53:881. You could just move the note from 00:53:782 to 00:53:881 and it would sound much better imo. ok
I don't think its a good idea to use finishes in the kiai in places like 01:23:289 and 01:26:447 because you have some 1/4 instruments that you could map here with a 5-note 1/4 starting from 01:26:052 instead of creating a forced 5-note pattern like 01:25:460 (51,52,53,54,55) where 01:25:756 does not have a sound to support it. change about finish in kiai
01:21:118 (19,20) ctrl+g, the sounds of 01:20:920 (18,19) are similar and you're missing out a strong clap on 01:21:315 if you leave this one as d. change.
I think it would be better for emphasis if you remove 01:32:269. The sounds on 1/2 are very strong starting from 01:32:170 so a 1/2 pattern could sound nicer here. Ok

Good luck

Thank you so much <3

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Diva Days

291 posts

Joined October 2016

Diva Days 2016-10-16T03:45:38+00:00

every diff looks like fine to me

sorry for don't help u but i add star here.

Liiraye

1,354 posts

Joined December 2011

Liiraye 2016-10-20T03:36:56+00:00

was gonna ask if I could make a gd but you deleted the other set with Hayashi Momoko and standard diff

whyyyyy

roufou

987 posts

Joined September 2011

roufou 2016-10-20T03:59:04+00:00

can't say I agree with eclale being in tags, considering it's pretty much like adding a tag for every pop'n music game a song appears in, like for instance you'd end up adding 7 tags if you mapped 音楽, which seems pretty silly to me considering if people wanted pop'n music songs they'd just search for pop'n music, if they wanted pop'n music songs from one specific game for some reason they'd search for that game.

Also if someone were to search for pop'n music eclale the song would appear in the search (albeit lower down) anyways.

Oh well it's not like this would stop the map from being ranked.

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2016-11-06T10:44:05+00:00

Late Reply

Liiraye wrote:
:( was gonna ask if I could make a gd but you deleted the other set with Hayashi Momoko and standard diff

whyyyyy

i have forum bug and i try to re-sudmitted that map D:

agu wrote:
can't say I agree with eclale being in tags, considering it's pretty much like adding a tag for every pop'n music game a song appears in, like for instance you'd end up adding 7 tags if you mapped 音楽, which seems pretty silly to me considering if people wanted pop'n music songs they'd just search for pop'n music, if they wanted pop'n music songs from one specific game for some reason they'd search for that game.

Also if someone were to search for pop'n music eclale the song would appear in the search (albeit lower down) anyways.

Oh well it's not like this would stop the map from being ranked.

yep i think i still keep about tags (that's why i need metacheck) D:

Axer

434 posts

Joined October 2015

Axer 2018-06-10T13:47:49+00:00

let me "revive" this real quick

Rew's Inner Oni

00:24:276 (143,144,145) - assuming you mapped the previous ones as 1/6, make this 1/6 too (kddk)
00:25:460 (151,152,153) - ^
00:54:868 (348) - finisher
00:57:433 (365,366,367) - 1/6
01:44:999 (187) - finisher
01:50:723 (211,212,213,214,215,216) - these both are 1/6 actually
General Stuff:
I don't know if this applies but the Universal Slider Velocity should be 1.40, I might be wrong so if you can try to ask a Beatmap Nominator.

Oni

01:44:802 (125,126) - Finishers

that's about it, lmao, sweet song, liked the 1/6

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2018-06-11T05:39:19+00:00

Axer wrote:
let me "revive" this real quick

Oni
01:44:802 (125,126) - Finishers applied only 126 (and all diff)

that's about it, lmao, sweet song, liked the 1/6

Thanks :3

rew0825

1,290 posts

Joined March 2013

rew0825 2018-06-11T10:53:19+00:00

@Axer - Change everything :v (remap)

Thank you very much <3

อนาถาดิฟกู

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bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2018-06-11T11:31:38+00:00

rew0825 wrote:

@Axer - Change everything :v (remap)

Thank you very much <3

อนาถาดิฟกู

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sczer

52 posts

Joined September 2015

sczer 2018-06-17T15:56:26+00:00

Inner Oni

00:02:762 - missing note
00:03:749 (14,15,16,17) - pattern doesn't match music
00:04:341 - missing sound
00:07:499 - same
00:22:105 (135) - sounds like same note before
00:20:723 (122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129) - should be mapped like 00:21:512 (130,131,132,133) as they are the same sound pattern
00:22:795 (140,142) - don't fit in with the music
00:29:605 - should have a slight sv change (slower) as it is quite a drastic tone shift
185 to 212 - What rythm are you following excaclty?

Oni

A lot better in general but in some places quite undermapped

Fuutsu and Kantan - lower the HP

Konpaku Sariel

778 posts

Joined October 2010

Konpaku Sariel 2018-06-18T04:10:17+00:00

https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335
ask him to change modding version

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2018-06-18T06:34:55+00:00

Konpaku Sariel wrote:
https://osu.ppy.sh/users/102335
ask him to change modding version

waiting rew to apply sczer's mod, i'll ask him later

sczer wrote:
Oni
A lot better in general but in some places quite undermapped it's old map,and i don't think its undermapped or anything need to remapping too

Fuutsu and Kantan - lower the HP fix

Last edited by bank78952 2018-06-18T11:25:44+00:00, edited 2 times in total.

rew0825

1,290 posts

Joined March 2013

rew0825 2018-06-18T11:18:45+00:00

sczer wrote:
Inner Oni
00:02:762 - missing note imo the sound on both red line is better for emphasize more than the note you said.
00:03:749 (14,15,16,17) - pattern doesn't match music But if listen as slowly on this is better to follow dkkd/kddk more.
00:04:341 - missing sound same
00:07:499 - same same
00:22:105 (135) - sounds like same note before the sound is differrent, before is lke drum but this is like clap.
00:20:723 (122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129) - should be mapped like 00:21:512 (130,131,132,133) as they are the same sound pattern If listen as slowly on first and second part note is should follow for dkkd/kddk and last is should differrent.
00:22:795 (140,142) - don't fit in with the music I don't understand but imo is fine.
00:29:605 - should have a slight sv change (slower) as it is quite a drastic tone shift imo it's unnecessary
185 to 212 - What rythm are you following excaclty? For consistency oni.

Thanks for mod.

Rossi

690 posts

Joined January 2015

Rossi 2018-06-22T07:17:42+00:00

Hi~!

Request from my queue

[Futsuu]
I think Futsuu still weak and too far with Muzukashii. Please fix by add some note at this part :
00:23:683 - ; 00:40:657 (65,66,67,68,69,70) - ; 00:46:578 (77,78,79,80,81,82) - ; 00:52:499 (89,90,91,92) -
00:54:868 (94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106) - <<< Important part!
01:08:289 (119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130) - <<< same^

00:17:762 (26) - change to d, and add kat 00:18:157 -
00:19:736 - add k
00:22:894 - add d here
00:23:683 -

[Muzukashii]
00:32:170 (115) - delete
00:34:933 (125) - ^

00:37:499 (134,135,136,137,138,139) - d kkk d d will better I think
00:40:657 (147) - move to 00:40:460 -
00:44:605 (162) - delete
00:47:170 (170) - k for same with Oni
00:49:144 (178) - delete

01:07:105 (244) - add triple ddd here

Good song~~<3 <3
I hope this is ranked
Good luck!

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2018-06-22T09:30:53+00:00

Franklin_DeJavu wrote:
Hi~!

Request from my queue

[Futsuu]
I think Futsuu still weak and too far with Muzukashii. Please fix by add some note at this part : everything change since this map mapped at 2015 XD
00:23:683 - ; 00:40:657 (65,66,67,68,69,70) - ; 00:46:578 (77,78,79,80,81,82) - ; 00:52:499 (89,90,91,92) -
00:54:868 (94,95,96,97,98,99,100,101,102,103,104,105,106) - <<< Important part!
01:08:289 (119,120,121,122,123,124,125,126,127,128,129,130) - <<< same^ thanks for suggestion, but maybe i'll need help from modder, because i don't know where i should place note.

00:17:762 (26) - change to d, and add kat 00:18:157 - fix
00:19:736 - add k fix
00:22:894 - add d here fix
00:23:683 - k, for consistency in muzu

[Muzukashii]
00:32:170 (115) - delete fix
00:34:933 (125) - ^ fix

00:37:499 (134,135,136,137,138,139) - d kkk d d will better I think
00:40:657 (147) - move to 00:40:460 - fix
00:44:605 (162) - delete no, d still work well to follow vocals
00:47:170 (170) - k for same with Oni for consistency, yes fix
00:49:144 (178) - delete fix

01:07:105 (244) - add triple ddd here no, for consistency in oni diff

Good song~~<3 <3
I hope this is ranked
Good luck!

Thanks owo

davidminh0111

Beatmap Nominator

1,358 posts

Joined January 2017

davidminh0111 2018-07-05T02:50:05+00:00

Hi, from my queue, sorry for a SUPER late reply

((

[Kantan]

01:16:578 (86) - Well, I would prefer a spinner right here instead of a note + spinner. The vocal appears here and I feel a bit odd when hitting the Don note. It may be a bit strange to play and 1/1 space here is a bit awkward as well. Please delete this note and translate the spinner back here to make the gameplay more playable.

[Futsuu]

! A bit strange to me. Why does the 1/2 triplets only appears in the kiai section but not the unkiai section. I can hear some 1/2 beats on the unkiai section but you didn't place those, and you have used very sprase usage of 1/1 patterns. Moreover, the spread issue occurs between Muzukashii and Futsuu. The amount of notes between these difficulties aren't balance with the other difficulties. I strongly suggest you to add some 1/2 triplets to remove the spread issue here.
01:16:578 (135) - Same as Kantan.

[Muzukashii]

! The kiai section is meant to be the hardest section of a whole difficulty but in the kiai section it really doesn't represent that. You have used sprase usage of 1/4 triplets in some parts of kiai section. I suggest you to remove some unnecessary in unkiai section OR add some notes in kiai section.

[Oni]

Change OD / HP to 5.5 / 5.5.

[Rew's Inner Oni]

Nice and justified diff. It's a very old map btw.

Good luck

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2018-07-08T06:38:51+00:00

davidminh0111 wrote:
Hi, from my queue, sorry for a SUPER late reply ((

[Kantan]
01:16:578 (86) - Well, I would prefer a spinner right here instead of a note + spinner. The vocal appears here and I feel a bit odd when hitting the Don note. It may be a bit strange to play and 1/1 space here is a bit awkward as well. Please delete this note and translate the spinner back here to make the gameplay more playable. i don't so, it's still fine

[Futsuu]
! A bit strange to me. Why does the 1/2 triplets only appears in the kiai section but not the unkiai section. I can hear some 1/2 beats on the unkiai section but you didn't place those, and you have used very sprase usage of 1/1 patterns. Moreover, the spread issue occurs between Muzukashii and Futsuu. The amount of notes between these difficulties aren't balance with the other difficulties. I strongly suggest you to add some 1/2 triplets to remove the spread issue here. sure
01:16:578 (135) - Same as Kantan. same as kantan
[Muzukashii]
! The kiai section is meant to be the hardest section of a whole difficulty but in the kiai section it really doesn't represent that. You have used sprase usage of 1/4 triplets in some parts of kiai section. I suggest you to remove some unnecessary in unkiai section OR add some notes in kiai section. maybe, but sure

[Oni]
Change OD / HP to 5.5 / 5.5. fix
[Rew's Inner Oni]
Nice and justified diff. It's a very old map btw.
Good luck

Thanks, for sorry for late uwu

Stefan

Global Moderator

10,407 posts

Joined January 2011

Stefan 2018-07-25T18:14:06+00:00

reminder to check

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2018-07-27T13:22:17+00:00

Stefan wrote:
reminder to check

Sure, gonna wait some mods before requesting you

mingmichael

1,720 posts

Joined May 2012

mingmichael 2018-07-29T09:35:35+00:00

stop haunting me D:

Red ~> unrakable issue, must be changed
Blue ~> highly suggested, consider to use it
Black ~> suggestion, just free to choose it

====================

[

Kantan]

Notes Structure

☞ overall patterns are well, but just need to keep the consistency of them. I'll give some of the in the next box

Notes

• basically it's fine for 00:52:499 (53,54,55,56,57) - , but how to keep the consistency like the previous pattern? maybe you followed another sounds like 00:54:473 - to follow the instrument? IMO, keep this consistency would give the pattern better and also won't distract any sounds too. You can give a try to move 00:52:499 - to 00:52:894 - and move 00:53:683 - to 00:54:078 -

• starts from 00:54:868 - , the beats are going up. why dont you give a note on 00:56:447 - . it follows the vocals really well and dont need to worry for the difficulty. having a 1/1 note won't hurt your Kantan
awh just noticed that you added note on 01:02:762 - . since 00:56:447 - and 01:02:762 - have a same part, why dont use the same one to keep the consistency tho?

• there is a sudden 3/1 pattern on 01:08:683 - . considering for a Kantan player, this sudden pattern would distract them alot because you just use 2/1 for a long time previously. I suggest you to change this one to be 2/1 pattern since to keep the consistency and also make the pattern easier
you can move 01:09:473 - to 01:09:078 - , to make xx-x-x pattern like 01:11:841 - until 01:13:815 -

• basically it's not hard for having 1/1 pattern on 01:16:183 - and 01:16:578 - . but since it has a finished on 01:16:578 - and spinner on 01:16:973 - , the difficulty would be increased a bit since not all Kantan players are able to face this one. You can try to delete 01:16:183 - so you will have 3/1 break before the finisher and spinner come out

• this is so sudden changing on 01:24:473 (7,8,9) - . remember that not all Kantan players are able to face this kind of pattern. You can easily change that pattern like 01:21:315 (2,3,4,5,6) -

• almost same on 01:27:631 - until 01:29:999 - . here is my suggestion below :
move 01:28:420 - to 01:29:210 - and change 01:28:815 - to be kat
move 01:29:999 - to 01:30:394 -
you will see that the notes will follow the strong vocals strongly on 01:29:605 - ; 01:30:394 - ; 01:31:183 - ; 01:31:578 - and 01:31:973 -

• same thing on 01:37:105 - until 01:39:078 -

• and again on 01:40:262 - until 01:41:841 - . Why dont you use like the previous pattern? i know that you want to improve and make another pattern, but remember and consider that this is Kantan; not all Kantan understand and be able to face this kind of various and sudden patterns

====================

[

Futsuu]

General

☞ okay!

Notes Structure

☞ overall there not problem but the spread between futsuu-muzu-oni (would be explained soon on Muzu) and this futsuu looks like an easy-muzu diff since you use all 1/1 and 1/2 patterns long. don't need worry, i'll give some suggestion to keep this futsuu diff
here for the specific explanations :

those are Kantan-Futsuu-Muzu-Oni during kiai. you can see how dense your futsuu if we see the spread between kantan and futsuu
the spread between kantan-futsuu is pretty huge but futsuu-muzu is just small. here some suggestion would be written down on Notes box

Notes

• can you explain what pattern is 00:22:499 (35,36,37,38,39) - ? it doesn't follow any particular sounds and you just forced it for having 3/1 break on 00:23:683 (38,39) - . you can move 00:23:683 - to 00:24:078 - ; move 00:25:262 - to 00:26:052 -
change 00:22:894 - to be kat and change 00:23:289 - to be don so it will have o o o pattern since it follows the dropping instrument sounds

• delete 00:48:355 - one. explanation is in Notes Structure Box. even though you have enough break after this pattern, but it's pretty dense during this pattern for this Futsuu for having x-xxx-x-xxx pattern. x-xxx-x-x wont hurt anything if you change this one

• delete 00:52:697 - ^

• starts from kiai part 01:20:131 - , this is what i said in Notes Structure Box. full of 1/1 and 1/2 patterns with less break make this one seems like an easy-muzu; not futsuu in general. here some suggestion below :
• delete 01:20:526 - ; for having a little 2/1 break after the spinner and finisher which just came out
• delete 01:23:683 - if you change ^ ; to keep the consistency ofc (since this note doesn't follow any sounds and just a additional note only)
• delete 01:26:841 - ^
• delete 01:33:157 - ^
• what a sudden pattern on 01:36:315 - until 01:37:302 - ? almost 1/2 of the kiai are using the consistent pattern and you tried a new pattern so sudden on here. not really recommend for this one. you can change this on to be previous pattern
if you change ^, change 01:37:894 - until 01:39:868 - same like previous pattern to keep the consisntency
• delete 01:44:407 - since it doesn't follow any particular sounds. if you want to say that you followed the vocals, that's correct but still incorrect. the vocals are HA-TE-I-RU on 01:43:815 - ; 01:44:210 - and 01:44:605 - , since the "TE" and "I" are almost sounds together (it sounds together actually), so it emphasis on 01:44:210 - only (well we can hear a small "I" on 01:44:407 - but it's not particular since it sounds so low and deleting this one would keep calm 1/1 pattern than 1/2 pattern

• start from 01:45:394 - ; you can see the spread between these three diff

those are kantan-futsuu-muzu and you can see how big the spread between kantan and futsuu but it's not really big between futsuu and muzu. here some suggestions below :
• delete 01:48:355 - ; no reason for having a xxx-x pattern there. it doesnt make sense if you just want to follow a small sound on 01:48:355 - for futsuu diff
• delete 01:49:933 - ^

====================

[

Muzukashii]

General

☞ okay!

Notes Structure

☞ like i said on Futsuu one

Notes

• this one is so wise and i love so much that you give a 3/2 break on 00:17:368 (57,58,59) - . this short break will make muzu players a bit break and that's great, but why don't you make it consistent? this one would be great if you make it consistent. here some suggestion to keep the consistency :
delete 00:14:605 - ^
delete 00:20:723 - and 00:20:822 - . there is not reason for following the small instruments there. actually you didnt follow them on 00:16:381 - and 00:16:776 - ; didn't you?

• should be kat on 00:27:236 - since the pitch sound is still high (actually it's higher than 00:27:433 - tho)

• from 00:28:026 - to 00:29:210 - ; make this one consistent. which one do you follow? instruments or drums; because those are different. on instruments; the notes there are decreasing from the high pitch to low pitch consistently (i have tried on my pianos). you can make them o o o o o o o on there and ignore the drums on 00:29:012 - and 00:29:210 - if you follow the instruments.
BUT, if you want to follow the drums, you can try to use o o o o o o o; to keep the drums on 00:29:012 - and 00:29:210 - . this one is optional, you can choose which one you like

• a missing finisher on 00:42:236 - ?

• you can try to delete 01:01:381 - . since this note doesn't follow any particular sounds, you can give a little 3/2 break there. be wise and make muzu player a bit rest to face another 1/2 long patterns

• 01:14:012 - ^

• you have two optional :
first option; you can delete 01:16:183 - ; since you follow the instruments. you must hear it carefully and carefully that the instruments give 1/4 sounds on 01:15:986 - ; 01:16:085 - ; 01:16:282 - and 01:16:381 - only
second option; after you read ^ explanation and you don't want to delete, you can move 01:16:183 - to 01:16:282 -

delete 01:29:802 - ; to make the vocals stronger on 01:29:605 - ; 01:29:999 - and 01:30:394 -

====================

[

Oni]

Notes

• move 01:14:012 - to 01:13:815 - ; to keep the consistency like 01:01:183 -

====================

[

Inner Oni]

Notes

• i was 2014/2015 BN so i dont know exactly current rankable or unrankable pattern like 00:42:039 (263,264,265) - . But personally i prefer with x-X instead of xxX one

====================

even though i am just an old modder but 2018 spreading diffs and basic patterns for rankings are a bit same like 2015 one. ~~so im still confident for giving mods lel~~
goodluck for the next ~~and stop haunting me everyday~~

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2018-07-29T10:53:36+00:00

mingmichael wrote:
stop haunting me D:

Red ~> unrakable issue, must be changed
Blue ~> highly suggested, consider to use it
Black ~> suggestion, just free to choose it

====================

[ Kantan]

Notes Structure
☞ overall patterns are well, but just need to keep the consistency of them. I'll give some of the in the next box

Notes
• basically it's fine for 00:52:499 (53,54,55,56,57) - , but how to keep the consistency like the previous pattern? maybe you followed another sounds like 00:54:473 - to follow the instrument? IMO, keep this consistency would give the pattern better and also won't distract any sounds too. You can give a try to move 00:52:499 - to 00:52:894 - and move 00:53:683 - to 00:54:078 -

• starts from 00:54:868 - , the beats are going up. why dont you give a note on 00:56:447 - . it follows the vocals really well and dont need to worry for the difficulty. having a 1/1 note won't hurt your Kantan
awh just noticed that you added note on 01:02:762 - . since 00:56:447 - and 01:02:762 - have a same part, why dont use the same one to keep the consistency tho?

• there is a sudden 3/1 pattern on 01:08:683 - . considering for a Kantan player, this sudden pattern would distract them alot because you just use 2/1 for a long time previously. I suggest you to change this one to be 2/1 pattern since to keep the consistency and also make the pattern easier
you can move 01:09:473 - to 01:09:078 - , to make xx-x-x pattern like 01:11:841 - until 01:13:815 -

• basically it's not hard for having 1/1 pattern on 01:16:183 - and 01:16:578 - . but since it has a finished on 01:16:578 - and spinner on 01:16:973 - , the difficulty would be increased a bit since not all Kantan players are able to face this one. You can try to delete 01:16:183 - so you will have 3/1 break before the finisher and spinner come out

• this is so sudden changing on 01:24:473 (7,8,9) - . remember that not all Kantan players are able to face this kind of pattern. You can easily change that pattern like 01:21:315 (2,3,4,5,6) -

• almost same on 01:27:631 - until 01:29:999 - . here is my suggestion below :
move 01:28:420 - to 01:29:210 - and change 01:28:815 - to be kat
move 01:29:999 - to 01:30:394 -
you will see that the notes will follow the strong vocals strongly on 01:29:605 - ; 01:30:394 - ; 01:31:183 - ; 01:31:578 - and 01:31:973 -

• same thing on 01:37:105 - until 01:39:078 -

• and again on 01:40:262 - until 01:41:841 - . Why dont you use like the previous pattern? i know that you want to improve and make another pattern, but remember and consider that this is Kantan; not all Kantan understand and be able to face this kind of various and sudden patterns

====================

[ Futsuu]

General
☞ okay!

Notes Structure
☞ overall there not problem but the spread between futsuu-muzu-oni (would be explained soon on Muzu) and this futsuu looks like an easy-muzu diff since you use all 1/1 and 1/2 patterns long. don't need worry, i'll give some suggestion to keep this futsuu diff
here for the specific explanations :

those are Kantan-Futsuu-Muzu-Oni during kiai. you can see how dense your futsuu if we see the spread between kantan and futsuu
the spread between kantan-futsuu is pretty huge but futsuu-muzu is just small. here some suggestion would be written down on Notes box

Notes
• can you explain what pattern is 00:22:499 (35,36,37,38,39) - ? it doesn't follow any particular sounds and you just forced it for having 3/1 break on 00:23:683 (38,39) - . you can move 00:23:683 - to 00:24:078 - ; move 00:25:262 - to 00:26:052 -
change 00:22:894 - to be kat and change 00:23:289 - to be don so it will have o o o pattern since it follows the dropping instrument sounds

• delete 00:48:355 - one. explanation is in Notes Structure Box. even though you have enough break after this pattern, but it's pretty dense during this pattern for this Futsuu for having x-xxx-x-xxx pattern. x-xxx-x-x wont hurt anything if you change this one

• delete 00:52:697 - ^

• starts from kiai part 01:20:131 - , this is what i said in Notes Structure Box. full of 1/1 and 1/2 patterns with less break make this one seems like an easy-muzu; not futsuu in general. here some suggestion below :
• delete 01:20:526 - ; for having a little 2/1 break after the spinner and finisher which just came out
• delete 01:23:683 - if you change ^ ; to keep the consistency ofc (since this note doesn't follow any sounds and just a additional note only)
• delete 01:26:841 - ^
• delete 01:33:157 - ^
• what a sudden pattern on 01:36:315 - until 01:37:302 - ? almost 1/2 of the kiai are using the consistent pattern and you tried a new pattern so sudden on here. not really recommend for this one. you can change this on to be previous pattern
if you change ^, change 01:37:894 - until 01:39:868 - same like previous pattern to keep the consisntency

i also fix 01:39:868 (50) - to 01:42:236 (57) - for consistency like previous pattern too

• delete 01:44:407 - since it doesn't follow any particular sounds. if you want to say that you followed the vocals, that's correct but still incorrect. the vocals are HA-TE-I-RU on 01:43:815 - ; 01:44:210 - and 01:44:605 - , since the "TE" and "I" are almost sounds together (it sounds together actually), so it emphasis on 01:44:210 - only (well we can hear a small "I" on 01:44:407 - but it's not particular since it sounds so low and deleting this one would keep calm 1/1 pattern than 1/2 pattern

• start from 01:45:394 - ; you can see the spread between these three diff

those are kantan-futsuu-muzu and you can see how big the spread between kantan and futsuu but it's not really big between futsuu and muzu. here some suggestions below :
• delete 01:48:355 - ; no reason for having a xxx-x pattern there. it doesnt make sense if you just want to follow a small sound on 01:48:355 - for futsuu diff
• delete 01:49:933 - ^

====================

[ Muzukashii]

General
☞ okay!

Notes Structure
☞ like i said on Futsuu one

Notes
• this one is so wise and i love so much that you give a 3/2 break on 00:17:368 (57,58,59) - . this short break will make muzu players a bit break and that's great, but why don't you make it consistent? this one would be great if you make it consistent. here some suggestion to keep the consistency :
delete 00:14:605 - ^
delete 00:20:723 - and 00:20:822 - . there is not reason for following the small instruments there. actually you didnt follow them on 00:16:381 - and 00:16:776 - ; didn't you?

• should be kat on 00:27:236 - since the pitch sound is still high (actually it's higher than 00:27:433 - tho)

• from 00:28:026 - to 00:29:210 - ; make this one consistent. which one do you follow? instruments or drums; because those are different. on instruments; the notes there are decreasing from the high pitch to low pitch consistently (i have tried on my pianos). you can make them o o o o o o o on there and ignore the drums on 00:29:012 - and 00:29:210 - if you follow the instruments.
BUT, if you want to follow the drums, you can try to use o o o o o o o; to keep the drums on 00:29:012 - and 00:29:210 - . this one is optional, you can choose which one you like

i'll pick kkkdkk :3

• a missing finisher on 00:42:236 - ?

• you can try to delete 01:01:381 - . since this note doesn't follow any particular sounds, you can give a little 3/2 break there. be wise and make muzu player a bit rest to face another 1/2 long patterns

• 01:14:012 - ^

• you have two optional :
first option; you can delete 01:16:183 - ; since you follow the instruments. you must hear it carefully and carefully that the instruments give 1/4 sounds on 01:15:986 - ; 01:16:085 - ; 01:16:282 - and 01:16:381 - only
second option; after you read ^ explanation and you don't want to delete, you can move 01:16:183 - to 01:16:282 -

delete 01:29:802 - ; to make the vocals stronger on 01:29:605 - ; 01:29:999 - and 01:30:394 -

====================

[ Oni]

Notes
• move 01:14:012 - to 01:13:815 - ; to keep the consistency like 01:01:183 -

====================

[ Inner Oni]

Notes
• i was 2014/2015 BN so i dont know exactly current rankable or unrankable pattern like 00:42:039 (263,264,265) - . But personally i prefer with x-X instead of xxX one

RC is already change, you can put finisher at last 1/4 notes

====================

even though i am just an old modder but 2018 spreading diffs and basic patterns for rankings are a bit same like 2015 one. ~~so im still confident for giving mods lel~~ That's old map ming, i still prefer to fix spreading instead remap
goodluck for the next ~~and stop haunting me everyday~~

almost fix everything (i'll not write reasons why i change,due it's too long to read (also lazy)

Michiru

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Michiru 2018-07-30T09:25:04+00:00

Kantan

00:49:736 (49) -k to be consistent with 00:44:999 (42,43)

Futsuu

00:03:947 (5,6) - ctrl+g and move to 00:04:342 (5,6) to be consistent with 00:01:184 (1,2,3,4)
00:17:762 (26,27) - ctrl+g
00:18:552 (28) - k
00:48:947 - put note here (k) to be consistent with 00:42:236 (70,71)
00:49:736 - ^
00:49:736 (86) - ^
00:49:341 (86) - delete this note
00:52:499 (94) - ^

Muzukashii

00:07:499 (22) - k
01:15:986 (273,274) - make a triple
01:39:078 (84) - k
01:47:762 (120) - k

Oni

01:15:986 (347,348) - make a triple
01:23:289 (17) - k
01:47:960 - make a triple to be consistent with 01:46:381 (133,134,135)

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2018-07-30T09:50:47+00:00

Iri Flina wrote:
Kantan
00:49:736 (49) -k to be consistent with 00:44:999 (42,43) fix
Futsuu
00:03:947 (5,6) - ctrl+g and move to 00:04:342 (5,6) to be consistent with 00:01:184 (1,2,3,4) no, it feel weirds to me, and also it's fine to stay at 3947
00:17:762 (26,27) - ctrl+g dkd still fine, and don't hurt futsuu players so much/also to follow rhythm
00:18:552 (28) - k same reason as above
00:48:947 - put note here (k) to be consistent with 00:42:236 (70,71) need 3/1 breaks here, not fix
00:49:736 - ^ ^
00:49:736 (86) - ^ ^
00:49:341 (86) - delete this note nope
00:52:499 (94) - ^ ^

Muzukashii
00:07:499 (22) - k d still fine
01:15:986 (273,274) - make a triple already applied ming's mod, i will keep kk k d
01:39:078 (84) - k follow cya (snare(?)) sound, not fix
01:47:762 (120) - k d still fine
Oni
01:15:986 (347,348) - make a triple keep consistency in muzu, also xx-x-x it's fine
01:23:289 (17) - k sure
01:47:960 - make a triple to be consistent with 01:46:381 (133,134,135) keep this suggestion, but not fix right now

Thanks

Tyistiana

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Tyistiana 2018-07-30T12:41:49+00:00

Aye, modding v1. ไม่ได้ใช้มานาน 555

[

Kantan]
00:29:605 - D ไหม เห็นดิฟอื่นก็ใช้ D หมดตรงนี้

[

Futsuu]
01:53:486 - 01:53:683 - เพราะก็เห็นไม่ได้แมพเสียงกลองตรง 01:55:855 - 01:56:056 เลยคิดว่าถ้าลบออกไป อาจทำให้จังหวะตรงนี้ฟังดูลื่นหูกว่า

[

Muzukashii]
01:39:078 - เปลี่ยนเป็น K , มันไม่ตรงกับ diff อื่น
01:49:933 - ลบมะ? เพราะจะได้ตาม melody ที่เด่นจริงๆอย่างเดียว อีกอย่าง ขนาดใน Oni ยังไม่มีโน้ตตรงนี้เลย (หรือจะไปเพิ่มโน้ตที่ Oni แทนก็ได้~)
01:55:657 ขยับไปเป็นตรง 01:55:460 - จะได้รักษาจังหวะ kd dk เหมือนกับ 01:52:105 (139,140,141,142) - 01:53:683 (144,145,146,147)

[

Oni]
00:28:223 - เพิ่ม k ตรงนี้เพื่อตามเสียง melody ก็ดีนะครับ เพราะขนาดใน Muzukashii ยังมีโน้ตตรงนี้เลย
00:29:802 - เพิ่ม d ตรงนี้ก็ดีนะครับ tone ของมันเหมือนกับตรง 00:30:591 - 00:31:381 - ... รู้สึกแปลกๆที่ตรงนี้ว่างครับ

มีแค่นี้แหละครับ ส่วนตัวคิดว่าแมพมาดีอยู่แล้ว เลยไม่มีอะไรจะมาคอมเมนต์ซักเท่าไร
โชคดีมีชัยครับ~

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2018-07-30T12:47:43+00:00

Tyistiana wrote:
Aye, modding v1. ไม่ได้ใช้มานาน 555 ขอเปลี่ยนเป็น v.2 แล้วเขาไม่ยอมเปลี่ยนให้ 55555555555555

[ Kantan]
00:29:605 - D ไหม เห็นดิฟอื่นก็ใช้ D หมดตรงนี้ โอเคๆ พลาดเอง 555555

[ Futsuu]
01:53:486 - 01:53:683 - เพราะก็เห็นไม่ได้แมพเสียงกลองตรง 01:55:855 - 01:56:056 เลยคิดว่าถ้าลบออกไป อาจทำให้จังหวะตรงนี้ฟังดูลื่นหูกว่า เอาเป็นว่า ลองลบดูก่อนดีกว่า น่าจะโออยู่ (ลดระยะห่างระหว่าง Kantan - Futsuu - Muzu ด้วย)

[ Muzukashii]
01:39:078 - เปลี่ยนเป็น K , มันไม่ตรงกับ diff อื่น โอเค
01:49:933 - ลบมะ? เพราะจะได้ตาม melody ที่เด่นจริงๆอย่างเดียว อีกอย่าง ขนาดใน Oni ยังไม่มีโน้ตตรงนี้เลย (หรือจะไปเพิ่มโน้ตที่ Oni แทนก็ได้~) โอเค

[ Oni]
00:28:223 - เพิ่ม k ตรงนี้เพื่อตามเสียง melody ก็ดีนะครับ เพราะขนาดใน Muzukashii ยังมีโน้ตตรงนี้เลย โอเค
00:29:802 - เพิ่ม d ตรงนี้ก็ดีนะครับ tone ของมันเหมือนกับตรง 00:30:591 - 00:31:381 - ... รู้สึกแปลกๆที่ตรงนี้ว่างครับ อยากเปิดเบรคสักนิดอะนาย

มีแค่นี้แหละครับ ส่วนตัวคิดว่าแมพมาดีอยู่แล้ว เลยไม่มีอะไรจะมาคอมเมนต์ซักเท่าไร
โชคดีมีชัยครับ~

~~เป็น bn ได้แล้วครับ 5555555555 ท่ดๆ~~

ขอบใจเด้อ o/

Tyistiana

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Tyistiana 2018-07-30T12:50:17+00:00

โห โพสต์ไม่ถึง 10 นาทีมาตอบแล้ว ไวมาก 555
Muzukashii ยังมีอักคอมเมนต์นึงนะครับ กด edit ไป แต่สงสัยจะไม่ทัน 5555

bank78952 wrote:
~~เป็น bn ได้แล้วครับ 5555555555 ท่ดๆ~~ ~~// ไว้จะลองสอบดูครับ~~

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2018-07-30T12:52:08+00:00

Tyistiana wrote:
โห โพสต์ไม่ถึง 10 นาทีมาตอบแล้ว ไวมาก 555
Muzukashii ยังมีอักคอมเมนต์นึงนะครับ กด edit ไป แต่สงสัยจะไม่ทัน 5555

bank78952 wrote:
~~เป็น bn ได้แล้วครับ 5555555555 ท่ดๆ~~ ~~// ไว้จะลองสอบดูครับ~~

ขอให้โชคดี 555555555555555

เปิดเมลล์ทึ้งไว้เพื่อการนี้เลยนะ รอ mod 55555555

ปล.muzu

01:55:657 ขยับไปเป็นตรง 01:55:460 - จะได้รักษาจังหวะ kd dk เหมือนกับ 01:52:105 (139,140,141,142) - 01:53:683 (144,145,146,147) - แก้ละกัน อันนี้ปล่อยไก่เต็มๆ 55555555

Stefan

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Stefan 2018-08-04T22:17:28+00:00

[Inner Oni]
01:57:433 (56) - I don't really find the beat very strong to emphasize it with a finisher, consider removing that hitsound.

[Oni]
00:18:749 - I feel like the beat should be mapped since it sounds more of a section to use continous mapping instead to provide a break between 00:18:552 (79,80) - .
00:42:039 - here too, would use kat at this time.
01:57:236 (176,177,178,179,180) - just my two cents but I find it cooler if you would specifically focus on the stronger beats, which are 01:57:236 (176,179) - , I think you can nerf down that part so you can change them to finisher notes. I mean you can still change them as finisher notes anyway but the triplets don't fit that much afterwards. Not a must have but imo cooler.

[Muzukashii]
00:07:894 (23) - I suggest a removal of the note; it feels a bit more consistent to go like that.
00:08:683 (26) - could also be removed to emphasize the previous two kat notes better.
00:29:605 - I'd start adding some more break phases from here on since there is a long part without providing at least 3/2 breaks and it's not a healthy style for the spread to have this setup:
00:29:802 (102,104) - remove these notes, should be good enough between the last break of 00:17:762 - till here.
00:43:815 (156) - ^ for similar reasons and providing a good balance of combos and break distances.
00:44:407 (158) - may be removed afterwards too since the kk follow after the break doesn't sound that good tbh.
00:46:183 (164) - you could turn the pattern to kdk so it doesn't repeat it later with 00:44:605 (159,160,161) - being ddk already.
00:50:131 (179) - also remove, reasons are above.
00:58:420 (211) - another good oppoturnity to add an 1/1 break after a decent amount of play time.
01:11:052 (256) - ^
01:20:526 (2,3,4) - / 01:33:157 (60,61) - I would remove them; one for consistency and two because of appropriate break distances and having them not too long, although it's the kiai part.
01:44:802 (110) - imo it fits better if you were using ddK instead. the first kat note looks a bit random for what it should be.
01:45:789 (113,114) - should also leave them out after that long part of the kiai.
01:57:433 (156) - imo it feels a bit too long? I mean I get you'd map a note here but instead you could just leave it out so that would make 01:57:236 (155,157) - sound stronger, whatchu say?

[Futsuu]
00:29:605 - 00:42:236 - it'd go in a better direction if you made this part slightly denser. If you check Muzukashii you'll quicky understand it's overloaded with 1/2 pattern so you should counteract corresponding to that by adding some more 1/2 notes and make longer combos.

will recheck when you're done, Muzukashii is concerning me at the moment.

rew0825

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Joined March 2013

rew0825 2018-08-05T07:15:05+00:00

Stefan wrote:
[Inner Oni]
01:57:433 (56) - I don't really find the beat very strong to emphasize it with a finisher, consider removing that hitsound. Change!

Thank you :3

@bank เปลี่ยนให้หน่อย เอา finish ออก แล้วอัพ
@Tyistiana แล้วดิฟเราง่า TwT

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2018-08-05T07:27:44+00:00

Stefan wrote:
[Oni]
00:18:749 - I feel like the beat should be mapped since it sounds more of a section to use continous mapping instead to provide a break between 00:18:552 (79,80) - . gonna put d here,fix
00:42:039 - here too, would use kat at this time. maybe keep break still fine.
01:57:236 (176,177,178,179,180) - just my two cents but I find it cooler if you would specifically focus on the stronger beats, which are 01:57:236 (176,179) - , I think you can nerf down that part so you can change them to finisher notes. I mean you can still change them as finisher notes anyway but the triplets don't fit that much afterwards. Not a must have but imo cooler. fix (change to X-x-X-x)

[Muzukashii]
00:07:894 (23) - I suggest a removal of the note; it feels a bit more consistent to go like that. fix
00:08:683 (26) - could also be removed to emphasize the previous two kat notes better. fix
00:29:605 - I'd start adding some more break phases from here on since there is a long part without providing at least 3/2 breaks and it's not a healthy style for the spread to have this setup:
00:29:802 (102,104) - remove these notes, should be good enough between the last break of 00:17:762 - till here. fix
00:43:815 (156) - ^ for similar reasons and providing a good balance of combos and break distances. fix
00:44:407 (158) - may be removed afterwards too since the kk follow after the break doesn't sound that good tbh. fix
00:46:183 (164) - you could turn the pattern to kdk so it doesn't repeat it later with 00:44:605 (159,160,161) - being ddk already. fix
00:50:131 (179) - also remove, reasons are above. fix
00:58:420 (211) - another good oppoturnity to add an 1/1 break after a decent amount of play time. maybe i'll fix this part :3
01:11:052 (256) - ^ ^
01:20:526 (2,3,4) - / 01:33:157 (60,61) - I would remove them; one for consistency and two because of appropriate break distances and having them not too long, although it's the kiai part. first part, i delete only two notes (to remove triple), second part i remove one k
01:44:802 (110) - imo it fits better if you were using ddK instead. the first kat note looks a bit random for what it should be. fix
01:45:789 (113,114) - should also leave them out after that long part of the kiai. fix
01:57:433 (156) - imo it feels a bit too long? I mean I get you'd map a note here but instead you could just leave it out so that would make 01:57:236 (155,157) - sound stronger, whatchu say? sure lol

[Futsuu]
00:29:605 - 00:42:236 - it'd go in a better direction if you made this part slightly denser. If you check Muzukashii you'll quicky understand it's overloaded with 1/2 pattern so you should counteract corresponding to that by adding some more 1/2 notes and make longer combos. not sure it's okay or not, but fix

will recheck when you're done, Muzukashii is concerning me at the moment.

Thanks

Last edited by bank78952 2018-08-05T09:00:22+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Tyistiana

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Tyistiana 2018-08-05T11:03:10+00:00

@rew0825 - ไม่รู้จะคอมเมนต์อะไร หาอะไรไม่เจอ เลยข้ามไปเลย 5555 ;w;

rew0825

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rew0825 2018-08-05T14:53:06+00:00

@Tyistiana ง่ะ อยากตอบม็อดยาวๆบ้าง ขนาดรีแมพแล้ว ยังได้ม็อดนิดเดียวเอง ;-;

Stefan

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Stefan 2018-08-06T23:27:01+00:00

[Muzukashii]
00:24:276 (76) - might also remove that note to slightly nerf that section.
Kiai - still concerning there is no break at all, which makes it a bit tiring to play. no idea if you just forgot to apply to my previous post or not, since it look like you actually wanted to do.

[Kantan]
00:13:026 (10) - could be changed to kat so the vocals may be emphasized like the previous note (9).
00:41:841 - like 00:35:526 (32) - you could finish that area with a kkD pattern.
00:44:999 (42) - I suggest moving the note to 00:44:605 - ; it doesn't hurt when the player has some consistent 2/1 tapping.
00:51:315 (51) - ^ to 00:50:920 - .
01:45:394 - 01:50:131 - imo it doesn't really need to be that empty when you compare that time to Futsuu. Buff it slightly.

I think we should be good next time.

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2018-08-07T00:13:50+00:00

Stefan wrote:
[Muzukashii]
00:24:276 (76) - might also remove that note to slightly nerf that section. fix
Kiai - still concerning there is no break at all, which makes it a bit tiring to play. no idea if you just forgot to apply to my previous post or not, since it look like you actually wanted to do. maybe i accidentally press update button when applied your mods. lol, jk, i add more break in kiai

i think muzu is good to go now.

[Kantan]
00:13:026 (10) - could be changed to kat so the vocals may be emphasized like the previous note (9). fix
00:41:841 - like 00:35:526 (32) - you could finish that area with a kkD pattern. sure,fix
00:44:999 (42) - I suggest moving the note to 00:44:605 - ; it doesn't hurt when the player has some consistent 2/1 tapping. fix
00:51:315 (51) - ^ to 00:50:920 - . ^
01:45:394 - 01:50:131 - imo it doesn't really need to be that empty when you compare that time to Futsuu. Buff it slightly. fix

I think we should be good next time.

i think it's good to go now, thanks (will pm again(?))

Stefan

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Stefan 2018-08-07T13:39:35+00:00

okay~

Volta

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Volta 2018-08-18T09:14:28+00:00

Random bubble check

[General]

how about set the Background Position to 0,-120 to show the two bunnies in the gameplay? i think those two characters are the most important element.
preview

[Rew's Inner Oni]

00:12:828 (71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79) - consider to create 1/6 between (71) and (72) you've been following the sound before. how about this arrangement:
(cursor at 00:13:124 - )
00:14:407 - consider to create 1/6 here to complement 00:16:381 - ?
00:17:960 (107,108,109) - could be 1/6 as well
00:29:407 - maybe remove this note? it lowers the emphasize to 00:29:605 - imo
00:35:822 - hmm i think it will be more comfortable to play if you remove this note. i hear no sound as well there
00:45:098 - consider to move to 00:44:703 - and change it to d? i think the pattern is too long for a calm section like this one
00:48:256 - move to 00:47:861 - and change to d, same as ^
00:51:414 - move to 00:51:019 - and change to d, same as ^
01:06:808 - move to 01:07:203 - to reflect the synth sound better?
01:24:769 (41,42) - consider to swap these notes? i think it will flow better this way

[Muzukashii]

00:01:184 ~ 00:05:920 - the intro has big gap with futsuu, you need to nerf it a bit. Suggestion:
00:07:894 - add k? feels weird if empty there considering that you followed this kind of sound before
00:11:052 - , 00:11:249 - , 00:11:644 - consider to remove for spread's sake
00:20:920 - maybe remove this note for consistency with 00:14:605 - ?
00:27:236 - and 00:27:532 - consider to remove these notes to highlight the drum only (and for spread)
00:27:433 - could be changed to d to represent deeper drum sound
00:36:315 - 00:36:512 - recommending to remove these notes to give proper break between two sessions
00:40:657 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - how about change to dkkkddk? i think it would fits the melody in a way better
01:52:302 - , 01:55:460 - remove, spread stuffs.

[Futsuu]

00:01:578 - remove and,
00:03:947 - move to 00:03:552 - ? this way the structure is more consistent with 00:04:341 (5,6,7,8,9) -
00:33:947 - consider to add k to make the sequence longer before next session. It helps the spread with Muzu as well
00:50:526 - move to 00:49:736 - ,
00:51:118 - remove,
00:54:276 - move to 00:53:881 - and change it to k
i think this way is more coherent with previous part (00:42:236 ~ 00:48:552)
01:05:131 - consider to move to 01:04:736 - to match the vocal

Kantan and Oni are fine, but i think spread between Futsuu and Muzukashii could be improved. I'll pop the bubble for now. You may call me back after that~

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2018-08-18T09:30:44+00:00

Volta wrote:
Random bubble check

[General]
how about set the Background Position to 0,-120 to show the two bunnies in the gameplay? i think those two characters are the most important element. sure.
preview
[Muzukashii]
00:01:184 ~ 00:05:920 - the intro has big gap with futsuu, you need to nerf it a bit. Suggestion: change, by follow your suggestion
00:07:894 - add k? feels weird if empty there considering that you followed this kind of sound before fix
00:11:052 - , 00:11:249 - , 00:11:644 - consider to remove for spread's sake fix
00:20:920 - maybe remove this note for consistency with 00:14:605 - ? fix
00:27:236 - and 00:27:532 - consider to remove these notes to highlight the drum only (and for spread)
00:27:433 - could be changed to d to represent deeper drum sound fix
00:36:315 - 00:36:512 - recommending to remove these notes to give proper break between two sessions fix
00:40:657 (1,2,3,4,5,6,7) - how about change to dkkkddk? i think it would fits the melody in a way better fix
01:52:302 - , 01:55:460 - remove, spread stuffs. fix
[Futsuu]
00:01:578 - remove and,
00:03:947 - move to 00:03:552 - ? this way the structure is more consistent with 00:04:341 (5,6,7,8,9) - sure.
00:33:947 - consider to add k to make the sequence longer before next session. It helps the spread with Muzu as well fix
00:50:526 - move to 00:49:736 - ,
00:51:118 - remove,
00:54:276 - move to 00:53:881 - and change it to k fix
i think this way is more coherent with previous part (00:42:236 ~ 00:48:552) i think it's okay, fix
01:05:131 - consider to move to 01:04:736 - to match the vocal fix

Kantan and Oni are fine, but i think spread between Futsuu and Muzukashii could be improved. I'll pop the bubble for now. You may call me back after that~

all fix lol, i'll call you later after rew apply yout mod

Thanks anyways

rew0825

1,290 posts

Joined March 2013

rew0825 2018-08-18T10:05:25+00:00

Volta wrote:
Random bubble check

[Rew's Inner Oni]
00:12:828 (71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79) - consider to create 1/6 between (71) and (72) you've been following the sound before. how about this arrangement:
(cursor at 00:13:124 - )
00:14:407 - consider to create 1/6 here to complement 00:16:381 - ?
00:17:960 (107,108,109) - could be 1/6 as well
00:29:407 - maybe remove this note? it lowers the emphasize to 00:29:605 - imo
00:35:822 - hmm i think it will be more comfortable to play if you remove this note. i hear no sound as well there
00:45:098 - consider to move to 00:44:703 - and change it to d? i think the pattern is too long for a calm section like this one
00:48:256 - move to 00:47:861 - and change to d, same as ^
00:51:414 - move to 00:51:019 - and change to d, same as ^
01:06:808 - move to 01:07:203 - to reflect the synth sound better?
01:24:769 (41,42) - consider to swap these notes? i think it will flow better this way

Change all but i have adjust some place. it's 00:17:565 (104,105,106,107) - I change it to 1/6 because I think the sound is same as 00:09:473

Thank you very much <3

UPDATE

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Volta

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Volta 2018-08-18T11:02:14+00:00

recheck

[Muzukashii]
00:06:315 - remove? for break consistency with 00:03:157 -

[Futsuu]
00:11:841 - consider to add for building up when they said 'are you ready'?
00:27:236 - remove? i think this part is nicer if you leave it empty to emphasize the main melody at 00:28:026 -

should be good now :>

bank78952

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bank78952 2018-08-18T11:08:03+00:00

Volta wrote:
recheck

[Muzukashii]
00:06:315 - remove? for break consistency with 00:03:157 -

[Futsuu]
00:11:841 - consider to add for building up when they said 'are you ready'?
00:27:236 - remove? i think this part is nicer if you leave it empty to emphasize the main melody at 00:28:026 -

should be good now :>

all fixed, okok o/

Volta

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Volta 2018-08-18T11:12:08+00:00

Spread has improved.

Re-bubbled~

bank78952

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bank78952 2018-08-18T16:18:54+00:00

note for next bn check: i'll change artist name

from Nekomata Master feat.Mimi Nyami

to Nekomata Master feat. Mimi (CV: Rie Murakawa) Nyami (CV: Marina Goto)

猫叉Master feat.ミミ (CV: 村川梨衣) ニャミ (CV: 後藤真里奈)

follow by this

Stefan

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Stefan 2018-08-23T22:52:24+00:00

Apply to 猫叉Master feat. ミミニャミ as artist. As well, please use pop'n music ラピストリア as source. Source from the official album cover back side: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/iY8BQg8M.jpg and this blog.

bank78952

Topic Starter

bank78952 2018-08-24T00:20:49+00:00

Stefan wrote:
Apply to 猫叉Master feat. ミミニャミ as artist. As well, please use pop'n music ラピストリア as source. Source from the official album cover back side: https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/iY8BQg8M.jpg and this blog.

okay o/

Stefan

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Stefan 2018-08-24T00:36:45+00:00

Volta

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Volta 2018-08-25T09:58:17+00:00

Qualified

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