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Giga & suzumu feat.Kagamine Rin - Undead Enemy

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Sonnyc
7,753 posts
Joined June 2008
Sonnyc
Easy.
00:58:028 (1) - This 1/2 felt unreasonably difficult in this level. Ending at 00:58:533 would be a more appropriate setting for difficulty, and for emphasizing the vocals. Even normal ends there. Having a harder rhythm than normal despite this being a guest difficulty didn't felt awesome in spreads.

Normal.
00:37:972 (3) - The rhythm was pretty complexed, and the current design felt a little confusing to read. Consider a new combo to indicate its abnormal rhythm.

Hard.
00:26:005 - 00:29:629 - 00:31:398 - You were mostly expressing every vocals. Leaving this empty didn't made much sense.
00:34:432 (2,3,4) - 00:37:129 (3,4,5) - This section of the music is pretty calm than any other sections in this song. Consider expressing these triples as a 1/4 reverse slider so that you can place a better intensity emphasis on other stronger parts.
00:53:983 (1,1,1,1) - Think of another placement please. The way you expressed this part of the song was the same as 00:49:938 (1,1,1,1,1,1) while there is a clear difference. Structure issue.

Miao Insane.
00:25:668 (1,2) - Could this 1/2 spacing be larger? Having such a close spacing on a 1/2 didn't felt consistent.
00:29:629 - Consider adding a note along the vocals.
00:41:258 (2,5) - These triple really feels overmapped. Remove these please.
00:55:331 (1,2) - Spacing is really bad to indicate a 1/2 rhythm. These needs a fix.

Insane.
00:15:893 (7,2,3,4) - Oh, did you changed this?
00:29:629 - Omitting this vocal line felt really awkward.
00:40:331 - The volume is 100% which is way too loud. Fix this.
00:47:241 (1,1) - Let me see the rhythm change here.
00:54:825 (3) - Adding a new combo here will be a consistent setting of a single combo at 00:53:983 (1).

Gu Insane.
00:35:106 (1,2,3) - The placement isn't properly aligned in terms of linear placements. Consider adjusting accordingly to make a more neat placement.
00:41:848 (1,2,3) - Stack in-game is pretty off. Try some manual stack to cure that.
00:42:691 (5,6,1) - (1) has a strong beat. (6) having a stronger jump didn't placed a proper emphasis. That sudden massive jump to a less strong beat felt highly inappropriate.
00:51:286 (1,3) - I believe removing combo at (1), and starting one from (3) will fit the songs and the pattern you are following much more effectively.
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
Lobelia
Thank you Sonnyc!i will fix them soon :)
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
Lobelia

Sonnyc wrote:

i fixed something before you come ,so there will have some more changes,sorry :?

Normal.
00:37:972 (3) - The rhythm was pretty complexed, and the current design felt a little confusing to read. Consider a new combo to indicate its abnormal rhythm.fixed


Insane.
00:15:893 (7,2,3,4) - Oh, did you changed this?i changed but i still not update before you come :cry:
00:29:629 - Omitting this vocal line felt really awkward.i changed to triplet,is that right?
00:40:331 - The volume is 100% which is way too loud. Fix this.oh,i miss it,fixed!
00:47:241 (1,1) - Let me see the rhythm change here.i changed to follow the vocal
00:54:825 (3) - Adding a new combo here will be a consistent setting of a single combo at 00:53:983 (1). fixed!
_MiaoFUuU_
314 posts
Joined April 2014
_MiaoFUuU_
@MrSergio

MiaoFUuU's Insane:
- 00:11:258 (4,2) - maybe try to avoid that tiny overlap: with stacking enabled a little fixed
- 00:25:415 (4,5) - I generally try to avoid un-warranted triplets on slider ends, generally because they play badly. What about this instead?
- 00:38:983 (3) - I'd move this at 00:38:814 - . where the clap in the song is instead
- 00:55:331 (1,2) - distance them a little more, otherwise it feels like there's a 1/4 gap between them. Refer to 00:57:691 (3,1) - for example
All fixed

I guess that Combo-ing is something you still need to work on, umh... ok

@Sonnyc
Miao Insane.
All fixed

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No_Gu
2,954 posts
Joined January 2011
No_Gu

MrSergio wrote:

Gu's Insane:
- 00:11:005 (2,3,4,5,6) - this pattern is clearly ignoring the most prominent sound in the song. What is this even mapped to? If I check the previous pattern I clearly see you were following the synth sound, so why are you ignoring it now? Is there such a strong instrument I'm missing?
Idk what exactly you had in mind anyway, but imo the rhythm should be something like this, or in any case, something that uses those breaks into the pattern.hmm...you're meaning 00:11:090 - ? in my opinion..this sound is not so strong that must to be mapped,and stressing 00:11:005 - and 00:11:258 - gives a better effect.
- 00:42:101 (2,3) - that weird stuck bothers me, mostly because it never happens again in the map: ahh,yes
- 01:00:050 (4,1) - again, rhythm here is a bit weird. You prioritize 01:00:724 (1) - over the beat at 01:00:387 - which is a bit strange imo. Rhythm reference but it can also work with 2 circles instead of the slider if you don't like it.I personally don't want 01:00:724 (1) - ,can I delete it if you don't mind the inconsistency?
~

Sonnyc wrote:

Gu Insane.
00:35:106 (1,2,3) - The placement isn't properly aligned in terms of linear placements. Consider adjusting accordingly to make a more neat placement.did a little change
00:41:848 (1,2,3) - Stack in-game is pretty off. Try some manual stack to cure that.k
00:42:691 (5,6,1) - (1) has a strong beat. (6) having a stronger jump didn't placed a proper emphasis. That sudden massive jump to a less strong beat felt highly inappropriate.seems so,but I can't get a better way to fix it...and in fact 6 is weaker but in fact not so weak...still ok imo
00:51:286 (1,3) - I believe removing combo at (1), and starting one from (3) will fit the songs and the pattern you are following much more effectively.k
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ArtistUnicode:ギガ&スズム feat.鏡音リン
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MrSergio wrote:

Ag's Hard:
- 00:12:185 (1,1) - I'd rather follow vocals with a 1/1 slider like this instead, since the SV change you use there is kinda weak and moreover the shape of 00:12:185 (1) - is just the same as the others (which means no difference, hence no emphasis)I want to highlight the rhythm in this part
- 00:17:578 (1) - consistencyalso
- 00:22:297 (1,2,3) - I'd rather not use such misleading rhythm for this difficulty, but it's your call hereSo I used a different DS
- NCs should have went on 00:23:309 - and on 00:24:657 - why.this NCs was not bad,I think
- other patterns look consistent, although not always clean. I would have used a little bit more basic SV on this map and avoided the 5 beats streamI think the other map has same with them
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Sonnyc wrote:

Hard.
00:26:005 - 00:29:629 - 00:31:398 - You were mostly expressing every vocals. Leaving this empty didn't made much sense.Not important also can not add in hard，I think
00:34:432 (2,3,4) - 00:37:129 (3,4,5) - This section of the music is pretty calm than any other sections in this song. Consider expressing these triples as a 1/4 reverse slider so that you can place a better intensity emphasis on other stronger parts.fixed
00:53:983 (1,1,1,1) - Think of another placement please. The way you expressed this part of the song was the same as 00:49:938 (1,1,1,1,1,1) while there is a clear difference. Structure issue.follow the vocal on this parts was no pro ,And the rhythm is a proof of that.
thanks

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Kyouren
5,583 posts
Joined October 2012
Kyouren
@Sonnyc & MrSergio: Fix a bit on sliderart and snap! :3

Thank you for mod!
sahuang
2,293 posts
Joined December 2014
sahuang
[Easy]
  1. 00:37:803 - spinner should end here as gap rule suggests
  2. 00:46:904 (4,1) - blanket pretty off
  3. 00:48:590 (3,4) - same
  4. 00:48:252 (2,1) - should avoid this overlap.

[Normal]
  1. 00:08:140 (3,4) - use a 1/1 slider instead.
  2. 00:41:005 - add a circle?
  3. 00:42:522 (2,3) - very weird rhythm choice,00:43:028 - is ignored. http://puu.sh/sFD9C/efa5f9c897.jpg seems better
  4. 00:43:196 (4,5) - make a symmetrical pattern?
  5. 00:45:724 - circle?

[Hard]
  1. 00:31:230 (2,3) - reduce ds
  2. 00:53:309 - make it clickable?
    A bit messy

[miaofu]
  1. uninherit timing points conflict with other diffs.
  2. 00:08:135 (1,2,3,4,1) - ds
  3. 01:00:382 (2,1) - avoid stack?it's pretty intense at the end/

[Insane]
  1. add a spinner as you did in normal
  2. 00:51:286 (1,2) - vocal is the same as its strange to use bigger spacing than 00:50:612 (1,2) -

[gu]
  1. 00:09:657 (2) - 00:09:825 (3) - 00:09:994 (4) - for each one separately,ctrl+G? cuz you can not only emphasis 00:09:488 (1,2) - but also reduce spacing on 00:09:994 (4,5) - which i feel is too big rn
  2. 00:22:045 (3,4,5) - maybe a reverse slider is better here,the stream seems too long
  3. 00:22:297 (6) - NC

I feel that this map can still be improved,especially for normal and hard.
good luck :)
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
Lobelia

sahuang wrote:

[Normal]
  1. 00:08:140 (3,4) - use a 1/1 slider instead.00:08:477 (4) - 这里是一个延长音的感觉，然后白线也是我目前跟的音轨的重音，所以我才这样对的
  2. 00:41:005 - add a circle?ORZ我觉得我主要还是对鼓点，所以并没有把人声都对上
  3. 00:42:522 (2,3) - very weird rhythm choice,00:43:028 - is ignored. http://puu.sh/sFD9C/efa5f9c897.jpg seems betterfixed
  4. 00:43:196 (4,5) - make a symmetrical pattern?这个根据上面的改了节奏，所以就不做对称啦
  5. 00:45:724 - circle?对鼓为主。。。人声和鼓音重叠的时候我才会特别强调人声的感觉ORZ所以不啦

[Insane]
  1. add a spinner as you did in normalnormal上转盘是因为低难度没转盘容易一个榜上全是一个成绩，insane就不会有这种情况，所以没加上
  2. 00:51:286 (1,2) - vocal is the same as its strange to use bigger spacing than 00:50:612 (1,2) - 这里是滑条，判定比较松。。。应该还好吧？而且这块也在滑条加速，拉大间距也不会特别违和

I feel that this map can still be improved,especially for normal and hard.我在找2-3个摸，谢谢帮住=W=
good luck :)
Pata-Mon
1,489 posts
Joined March 2015
Pata-Mon
[Normal]
  1. 00:08:140 (3,4) - 这中间我也觉得不该空，换成一个1/1滑条你不喜欢的话，那把3换成一个1/2，然后4不动也可
  2. 00:34:432 (2,3) - 这种包法整个难度只出现了一次，不合适
  3. 00:36:455 (1,1) - overlap
  4. 00:37:803 - 这加个note会舒服不少
  5. 00:42:859 - 整个kiai都主跟鼓的话这里大概不太能漏
  6. 00:45:219 (2,3,4,5) - 虽然有一组平行不过看着还是有点随手
  7. 00:51:960 (6,7,1,2,3,4,1) - 也是．可能适当用点弯的也不错．
  8. 我觉得整体还挺好的……
[Hard]
  1. 这个难度我也觉得不低于平均水准其实……要非得说的话，blanket啊视觉ds之类的小细节确实可以提高，不过还没到影响很大的程度吧……
  2. 00:13:786 - 这diff里1/4也没少用，这里清楚的vocal加个note好
  3. 00:16:904 (3,4) - 可以考虑换成一个3/4滑条+1/2滑条，同时跟到鼓和vocal
  4. 00:22:297 (1,2,3) - 这种在hard里就不太能读，还是换折返滑条的好
  5. 00:30:556 (4,1,2) - 这节奏很怪．改法应该蛮多的，我可能会这样：http://b1.loli.io/images/ldlg.jpg
  6. 00:44:545 (1) - 这里是重音，叠下面不太对
  7. 00:51:286 (1) - 现在这样没问题，不过这里可以考虑换一个位置（跟后面依然stack），因为换小节了，并且bass音也高了一度
GL~
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
Lobelia

Pata-Mon wrote:

[Normal]
  1. 00:08:140 (3,4) - 这中间我也觉得不该空，换成一个1/1滑条你不喜欢的话，那把3换成一个1/2，然后4不动也可好
  2. 00:34:432 (2,3) - 这种包法整个难度只出现了一次，不合适QWQ不好改，偷懒
  3. 00:36:455 (1,1) - overlap↑
  4. 00:37:803 - 这加个note会舒服不少不过我觉得这里不对，节奏也没错的，只是OVERLAP不是很美观
  5. 00:42:859 - 整个kiai都主跟鼓的话这里大概不太能漏。。。我本来是对了这个音的。。。撒谎的摸给改了。。不知道改不改了
  6. 00:45:219 (2,3,4,5) - 虽然有一组平行不过看着还是有点随手
  7. 00:51:960 (6,7,1,2,3,4,1) - 也是．可能适当用点弯的也不错．
  8. 我觉得整体还挺好的……
我适当改下排版


GL~
No_Gu
2,954 posts
Joined January 2011
No_Gu

sahuang wrote:

[gu]
  1. 00:09:657 (2) - 00:09:825 (3) - 00:09:994 (4) - for each one separately,ctrl+G? cuz you can not only emphasis 00:09:488 (1,2) - but also reduce spacing on 00:09:994 (4,5) - which i feel is too big rn个人觉得这里打法是甩出去的。。所以感觉间距不是很大，ctrl+g那边不太懂有什么区别
  2. 00:22:045 (3,4,5) - maybe a reverse slider is better here,the stream seems too long整个stream是一个渐进过程 只有这里slider会很怪，而且事实上也不差这三个
  3. 00:22:297 (6) - NC不太懂为什么要加
Binguo
308 posts
Joined April 2015
Binguo
小垃圾来摸图了 摸不动啊

[ag]

00:15:893 (5,6) - 感觉停顿不合适啊
00:16:904 (3,1) - 3尾端包好啊 太明显了
00:22:972 (1,2) - 1叠在2上面
00:28:702 (2,3) - 00:32:241 (4,1) - 同第一条

[lnsane]
00:06:455 (1) - 不一定要老实跟节奏的 拉到后面蓝线做个3/4条记得去掉尾部音效
00:07:466 (3,4) - 换成两个1/2 00:07:719 - 4放这里
00:54:994 (3,1) - 看上去像是1/2 还有flow卡手 注意一下
00:59:207 (1) - 丑 拉好点 小白点不忍直视

做的挺帮的 :)

先跑路
Lobelia
858 posts
Joined February 2014
Topic Starter
Lobelia

Binguo wrote:

小垃圾来摸图了 摸不动啊

[lnsane]
00:06:455 (1) - 不一定要老实跟节奏的 拉到后面蓝线做个3/4条记得去掉尾部音效QWQ这个还好吧，也没人说过
00:07:466 (3,4) - 换成两个1/2 00:07:719 - 4放这里00:07:719 - 我跟那个音轨是到这里的
00:54:994 (3,1) - 看上去像是1/2 还有flow卡手 注意一下好
00:59:207 (1) - 丑 拉好点 小白点不忍直视QWQ可是我越拉越丑了，看了下现在就白点比较丑，形状过得去

做的挺帮的 :)

先跑路
谢谢，你真是一个好人，明天就改！
_MiaoFUuU_
314 posts
Joined April 2014
_MiaoFUuU_
@sahuang all fixed

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Hanazawa Kana
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加油
Lobelia
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Hanazawa Kana wrote:

加油
谢谢qwq
__Ag
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要不你帮我改吧 或者删了我重新找个 我结婚实在没时间弄
Lobelia
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__Ag wrote:

要不你帮我改吧 或者删了我重新找个 我结婚实在没时间弄
好，那我看着改，再不行我就坟图了← ←
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