ASIAN KUNG-FU GENERATION - rewrite · forum

iYiyo

Joined January 2014

iYiyo 2016-07-27T18:47:56+00:00

Hi Mugiwara! Just passing by to leave some thoughts, just a random mod xd fma <3

[General]

idk but why does pkhg's diff only have a different bg? maybe for hazu too? no problem though but i wanted to mention it xd
maybe low hp of insane to 6? so it scales like 5-6-7 in the hardest diffs

[Dignidad]
00:03:772 (3,4,5) - The actual transition from 4 to 5 and then from 5 to 6 seems to be a bit unnatural to follow, I guess it'd be better if you make some horizontal movements so it flows better imo. Maybe try this: http://puu.sh/qgpUH/645dd83f6d.jpg
00:04:275 (5) - NC here? and also 00:05:784 (3) - make the NC here since the downbeat is more intuitive for a nc i guess.
00:10:812 (5,6,1) - This transition over here I really don't like it... it feels too crowded with those overlaps and low distance from each other sliders. I would suggest to make the 2nd stream more curvish and maybe do something like this: http://puu.sh/qgqtf/fc820bca2e.jpg ? I think the pattern would play smoother~ Btw... if you do so, maybe try this linear flow for 00:10:141 (5,6,7) - http://puu.sh/qgqBI/cc6750db7b.jpg The actual one seems to be a bad blanket I guess which is not bad but idk xd
00:13:828 (1,3) - idk if you care about blankets, but maybe fix that?
00:25:895 (1,3) - ^
00:29:918 (1,2,3,4) - I guess this is some good stuff, however I find it pretty boring and monotonous to play because you use it 5 times incluiding 00:29:247 (3) - Also I'd suggest to make 00:30:588 (3) - into 2 circles because there are two downbeats that would be better if you make them clickable.
Therefore I'd suggest something like this http://puu.sh/qgrQ7/97df9b0f5f.jpg + http://puu.sh/qgrRK/7064a7f6ea.jpg ?
00:37:460 (3) - make it a bit curvish so it flows better to the stream?
00:48:708 (1) - delete the last grey node? just a detail xd
00:48:708 (1,2,3) - The flow here feels a bit awkward in my opinion, mainly because 00:48:708 (1) - doesn't follow the curvature of the stream and also because of 00:49:043 (2,3) - this jump that feels too forced i guess. Maybe you can build a better flow with a pattern like http://puu.sh/qgsjo/d2bcfae50a.jpg ?
00:58:261 (2,3) - Add a bit more distance here to make the jumps more consistent? Maybe a symetrical star would work for this.
00:59:099 (1,1) - Maybe http://puu.sh/qgsr5/0301355104.jpg for better flow?
01:19:796 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - For the first stream I think you can curve it a bit so the flow is smoother. Also I don't really like this overlap of both streams. I guess i'd suggest you something like this: http://puu.sh/qgsOr/a1ec74e8e7.jpg + http://puu.sh/qgsRQ/ee28572d20.jpg (where 01:21:556 (3,5) - is a blanket)
01:33:959 (5,6,1) - why the distance? would be better if you stack them with 0,5x I guess~
01:34:797 (1,2) - idk but since the intensity of the music here is the same for 01:35:300 (3,4) - this, i'd suggest to add some more distance for 01:34:797 (1,2) - maybe.
01:35:300 (1) - maybe NC?

[Insane]
00:23:884 (3,4) - this stack seems to be the only one in all this section so it's a bit weird when playing, consider unstack.
00:53:400 (3,4,3,4) - These double stack are totally fine.. it's just that you could've made them more consistent troughout the section. e.g 00:53:400 (3,4) - these is cool stuf because both are strong beats, however 00:54:909 (3,4) - here is not the case, where 00:55:075 - gives less emphasis for a stack. Just my opinion btw~
The rest seems to be ok, nice diff

[Hazu]
Hola... de nuevo xdd
00:09:136 (3,4) - Quizás hacer que tengan el mismo "shape"? no sé como decirlo en español xd forma?
00:39:321 (1,4) - La verdad el único "problema" que veo a primera vista es este overlap, en donde llega a ser muy notorio mientras se juega y se ve un poquito mal xd
00:16:426 - 00:21:789 - 00:27:152 - 00:43:260 - 00:53:986 - Bueno como te podrás fijar algunas de esas partes tienen sliders 3/4 y otras no, por lo que te sugiero que seas consistente con eso. Personalmente me gustaría que fueran todos 3/4.
00:56:081 (3,4) - blanket?
00:58:092 (1,2,3,4,5) - No sé si quieres mantener la distancia todo el rato igual, pero aquí podrías agregar un poquito más de distancia para simular la fuerte intensidad de la canción~ aunque sea una diff de bajo sr, un poquito no haría mal o si? 1,7x tal vez? xd
Anyway~ buena diff como siempre

[Normal]
01:07:478 (1) - nice

[pkhg]
omg those bookmarks and green lines
01:10:159 (1) - Quizás podrías mover el tick rojo un poquito más a la izquierda para que no se vea tan recta esa parte? o no sé pero dejarlo menos recto porque creo que en el blanket se nota un poquito xd 01:08:818 (3,1) -

srry for pointing too much stuffs in dignity but I truly believe you can improve it!!

Okay that's all! I hope it helps a bit

Good mapset, I hope you can rank it soon >.< star~

Irohas

1,353 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Irohas 2016-07-27T20:22:09+00:00

iYiyo wrote:
Hi Mugiwara! Just passing by to leave some thoughts, just a random mod xd fma <3 what a surprise : o

[General]
idk but why does pkhg's diff only have a different bg? maybe for hazu too? no problem though but i wanted to mention it xd it was my previous BG and pkhg wanna keep this
maybe low hp of insane to 6? so it scales like 5-6-7 in the hardest diffs okay

[Dignidad] it means dignity maybe my spanish is too bad : (
00:03:772 (3,4,5) - The actual transition from 4 to 5 and then from 5 to 6 seems to be a bit unnatural to follow, I guess it'd be better if you make some horizontal movements so it flows better imo. Maybe try this: http://puu.sh/qgpUH/645dd83f6d.jpg okay yeah it makes a really good pattern, fixed
00:04:275 (5) - NC here? and also 00:05:784 (3) - make the NC here since the downbeat is more intuitive for a nc i guess. I think it's more logical to put a NC at 00:05:113 (1,2,3,4,5) - as they're strong and loud sounds who start here and also at 00:05:616 (1,2,3) -
00:10:812 (5,6,1) - This transition over here I really don't like it... it feels too crowded with those overlaps and low distance from each other sliders. I would suggest to make the 2nd stream more curvish and maybe do something like this: http://puu.sh/qgqtf/fc820bca2e.jpg ? I think the pattern would play smoother~ Btw... if you do so, maybe try this linear flow for 00:10:141 (5,6,7) - http://puu.sh/qgqBI/cc6750db7b.jpg The actual one seems to be a bad blanket I guess which is not bad but idk xd hmm.. I think It will make a weird movement for the player imo, he expects to a circular movement with this curves slider imo
00:13:828 (1,3) - idk if you care about blankets, but maybe fix that? blanket is shiet but fixed!
00:25:895 (1,3) - ^ ^
00:29:918 (1,2,3,4) - I guess this is some good stuff, however I find it pretty boring and monotonous to play because you use it 5 times incluiding 00:29:247 (3) - Also I'd suggest to make 00:30:588 (3) - into 2 circles because there are two downbeats that would be better if you make them clickable.
Therefore I'd suggest something like this http://puu.sh/qgrQ7/97df9b0f5f.jpg + http://puu.sh/qgrRK/7064a7f6ea.jpg ? actually, I know you're right for this point, but I don't really know how to make this, although your pattern is well, but it will bother the player if I change suddenly this imo but I'll surely keep in mind this to try to make it differently
00:37:460 (3) - make it a bit curvish so it flows better to the stream? yeah sure, sure
00:48:708 (1) - delete the last grey node? just a detail xd made the last two closer D:
00:48:708 (1,2,3) - The flow here feels a bit awkward in my opinion, mainly because 00:48:708 (1) - doesn't follow the curvature of the stream and also because of 00:49:043 (2,3) - this jump that feels too forced i guess. Maybe you can build a better flow with a pattern like http://puu.sh/qgsjo/d2bcfae50a.jpg ? hmm yes! sure!
00:58:261 (2,3) - Add a bit more distance here to make the jumps more consistent? Maybe a symetrical star would work for this. sure, improved
00:59:099 (1,1) - Maybe http://puu.sh/qgsr5/0301355104.jpg for better flow? I wanted to make a kind of "linear flow"
01:19:796 (2,3,4,5,6,7,1,2,3,4,5,6) - For the first stream I think you can curve it a bit so the flow is smoother. Also I don't really like this overlap of both streams. I guess i'd suggest you something like this: http://puu.sh/qgsOr/a1ec74e8e7.jpg + http://puu.sh/qgsRQ/ee28572d20.jpg (where 01:21:556 (3,5) - is a blanket) It looks cool, I'll try this ! But I think overlap is not really bad so I'll only keep this D:
01:33:959 (5,6,1) - why the distance? would be better if you stack them with 0,5x I guess~ it's fine imo D:
01:34:797 (1,2) - idk but since the intensity of the music here is the same for 01:35:300 (3,4) - this, i'd suggest to add some more distance for 01:34:797 (1,2) - maybe. consistency with 01:32:115 (1,2) - I tried to make nearly the same DS
01:35:300 (1) - maybe NC? sure

[Insane]
00:23:884 (3,4) - this stack seems to be the only one in all this section so it's a bit weird when playing, consider unstack. It's fine I think It'll bother not that much D:
00:53:400 (3,4,3,4) - These double stack are totally fine.. it's just that you could've made them more consistent troughout the section. e.g 00:53:400 (3,4) - these is cool stuf because both are strong beats, however 00:54:909 (3,4) - here is not the case, where 00:55:075 - gives less emphasis for a stack. Just my opinion btw~ yes, totally, unstacked nice catch ; )
The rest seems to be ok, nice diff thank you o/

[Normal]
01:07:478 (1) - nice thanks c:

srry for pointing too much stuffs in dignity but I truly believe you can improve it!! don't worry and thank you for taking time to this shietty diff iYiyo and all other !

Okay that's all! I hope it helps a bit it helps me alot, one of the best mod i've received for a while !
Good mapset, I hope you can rank it soon >.< star~ thank you

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Thanks !

Hazu-

3,881 posts

Joined July 2014

Hazu- 2016-07-30T17:49:25+00:00

iYiyo wrote:
Hi Mugiwara! Just passing by to leave some thoughts, just a random mod xd fma <3

[Hazu]
Hola... de nuevo xdd asadsadsa estás en todos lados... ¿O yo estoy en todos? xD
00:09:136 (3,4) - Quizás hacer que tengan el mismo "shape"? no sé como decirlo en español xd forma? Fixed.
00:39:321 (1,4) - La verdad el único "problema" que veo a primera vista es este overlap, en donde llega a ser muy notorio mientras se juega y se ve un poquito mal xd Fixed.
00:16:426 - 00:21:789 - 00:27:152 - 00:43:260 - 00:53:986 - Bueno como te podrás fijar algunas de esas partes tienen sliders 3/4 y otras no, por lo que te sugiero que seas consistente con eso. Personalmente me gustaría que fueran todos 3/4. En realidad son diferentes sonidos, en los 2/4 no se escucha el platillo mientras que en los 3/4 se escucha un sonido de platillo extendido hasta el siguiente tick blanco, por eso son distintos, si surgen otras sugerencias respecto a esto lo cambiaré.
00:56:081 (3,4) - blanket? Es una copia del anterior con un giro de 90º.
00:58:092 (1,2,3,4,5) - No sé si quieres mantener la distancia todo el rato igual, pero aquí podrías agregar un poquito más de distancia para simular la fuerte intensidad de la canción~ aunque sea una diff de bajo sr, un poquito no haría mal o si? 1,7x tal vez? xd Antes tenían una distancia distinta, sin embargo surgieron muchas dudas respecto a esto, al final decidí dejarlo así xD
Anyway~ buena diff como siempre Gracias >w<

srry for pointing too much stuffs in dignity but I truly believe you can improve it!!

Okay that's all! I hope it helps a bit
Good mapset, I hope you can rank it soon >.< star~

Gracias~

Poi

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pkhg

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Joined May 2010

pkhg 2016-07-31T05:30:44+00:00

Haruto wrote:
Hello! as requested, sorry for the delay >.<

[General]
Soft-sliderslide2 is not used.
[pkhg's Easy]
Check AiMod, there's a lot of unsnapped timing lines fixd
00:01:381 - 00:11:437 - etc... sometimes, doing stuff like these can be considered as unrankable. i know some issue like this a year ago in teichan aka lavender's map. he used a lot of custom slidertick to replace it as clap/drum sound. you might want to reduce some stuff like these, oh yea. you do the slidertick stuff only after this part 00:03:437 - then you started again from 00:11:437 - which is inconsistent while 00:07:460 - has that drum sound too, so... yeah isnt inconsistent, i just forgot it thanks xd
00:04:109 (2,3) - Nazi, blanket. actually its not noticable at all but consider fixing it too cuved sliders looks liek sht
00:20:198 (2,3) - inconsistent spacing, you can see it from the difference between follow points on 00:19:862 - to 00:20:197 - . 0.02
00:21:204 (4,2) - avoidable overlap imo because they doesnt look tidy at all u cant see it while playing
00:59:433 (1) - just a suggestion, i believe the tail can be stacked with 00:57:422 (2) - 's tail so it'll look more tidy triangles http://puu.sh/qkvn9/14a4617ee0.jpg
01:10:159 (1) - i believe its posibble to cover up the red node edge here by adjusting those curves too hard
01:14:852 (3,1) - is this intended to be like this? not blanketed? ya

Pretty cool diff. tho i still dont understand why are you doing those slidertick stuff its rare nowadays that people use it cuz sounds dumb without them
Sorry if my mod wasn't helpful at all >.< i tried already ;;. tell me or write your reply if there's a words that you cant understand!
Good Luck!

iYiyo wrote:
[pkhg]
omg those bookmarks and green lines xd
[*]01:10:159 (1) - Quizás podrías mover el tick rojo un poquito más a la izquierda para que no se vea tan recta esa parte? o no sé pero dejarlo menos recto porque creo que en el blanket se nota un poquito xd 01:08:818 (3,1) - hice lo que pude [/list][/notice]

srry for pointing too much stuffs in dignity but I truly believe you can improve it!!

Okay that's all! I hope it helps a bit
Good mapset, I hope you can rank it soon >.< star~

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Iceskulls

1,612 posts

Joined February 2012

Iceskulls 2016-10-15T14:51:36+00:00

[pkhg]

00:08:465 - to 00:11:147 - are the clap sound on this section intentional or not ? feel weird with the song imo
00:59:433 (1,2) - small spacing error
01:14:852 (3,1) - uhh make blanket looks better ? lol

[normal]

00:01:426 (3,1) - ending (3) sliderend on emphasized redtick make rhythm transition there awkward imo , yo can try this
SPOILER
00:47:366 (1,2) -00:48:371 (3,1) - spacing error
01:14:182 (4) - forget to nc ?
01:19:545 (3) - nc to stay consistent with nc pattern ( you nc every downbeat ) lol ?

not really like how you make the overall so big like that for normal , i think it make spread from easy to normal large , it would be better to make spread more balance imo so can you do something with like 99% of the spacing here like lower them ?

[hazu]

00:40:662 (1,2) - kinda unexpected to see you use jumps here when you didn't do it here 00:39:321 (1,2) - 00:37:981 (1,2) - and i don't think the jumps there work very well there so maybe don't jumps there , i think the downbeat would be the better choice for jumps

try to add some jumps in this diff to make the spread from hard to insane better ? most of the downbeat is a good choice for jumps tho

[insane]

00:13:158 (3,4) - why the sudden spacing decrease on this , that make this plays pretty awkward imo , try move 00:13:493 (4) - to around x208 y248
00:19:191 (1,2) - mm why is this spaced different from 00:16:510 (1,2) - 00:17:851 (1,2) - which suppose to sound the same , imo make the spacing somehow consistent to each other would make thing play more smooth
00:24:555 (1,2) - similiar to the above this is low spacing but 00:23:214 (1,2) - 00:21:873 (1,2) - high spacing
00:32:096 (3,4,5) - i think the curve on this stream can be improved a bit , this looks better i think lol idk
SPOILER
00:48:661 - what this timing line snap to ?
01:03:456 (1,2) - sound similiar to 01:00:775 (1,2) - but why different spacing ?
01:18:540 (2,3) - a bit weird to stop using jumps for emphasis cymbal here i think would flow better if you keep continue to jumps to emphasis cymbal
00:45:356 (3,4) - would be better if the spacing here is a bit bigger to emphasis the snare on (4) better imo , try to move (4) to around x264 y276
01:22:898 (3,4) - aaa no symmetry ? I think that would make this looks better

my main concern is some inconsistent in spacing for some notes after the slider , try to recheck them and make them consistent and correlate with the song

[diginity]

00:34:778 (4,5) - i find that this should have higher spacing than 00:34:610 (3,4) - cus the snare there sound more impact than the kick imo , try move (4) to around x368 y224 ?
01:19:545 (1,2,3,4) - the curve feel off here for some reason
01:20:718 (5,6,1) - same as above
01:33:959 (5,6,1,2) - rhythm play a bit awkward for me , was expect it to be like 01:31:277 (6,1,2) - but it's not , maybe try to make the rhythm there consistent to make it play better ? i don't think 1/4 there is need to be map lol

same as insane about the spacing for some notes after the slider

Hazu-

3,881 posts

Joined July 2014

Hazu- 2016-10-15T15:30:09+00:00

CelsiusLK wrote:
[hazu]
00:40:662 (1,2) - kinda unexpected to see you use jumps here when you didn't do it here 00:39:321 (1,2) - 00:37:981 (1,2) - and i don't think the jumps there work very well there so maybe don't jumps there , i think the downbeat would be the better choice for jumps DS error ;w; Fixed.

try to add some jumps in this diff to make the spread from hard to insane better ? most of the downbeat is a good choice for jumps tho Sure.

Thanks =w=/

Poi

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Irohas

1,353 posts

Joined May 2014

Topic Starter

Irohas 2016-10-15T15:40:44+00:00

CelsiusLK wrote:
[normal]
00:01:426 (3,1) - ending (3) sliderend on emphasized redtick make rhythm transition there awkward imo , yo can try this
SPOILER
consistency with 00:03:772 (2,3,1) -
00:47:366 (1,2) -00:48:371 (3,1) - spacing error fixed
01:14:182 (4) - forget to nc ? fixed
01:19:545 (3) - nc to stay consistent with nc pattern ( you nc every downbeat ) lol ? and fixed

not really like how you make the overall so big like that for normal , i think it make spread from easy to normal large , it would be better to make spread more balance imo so can you do something with like 99% of the spacing here like lower them ? used 1.2x instead of 1.4x
[insane]
00:13:158 (3,4) - why the sudden spacing decrease on this , that make this plays pretty awkward imo , try move 00:13:493 (4) - to around x208 y248 okay
00:19:191 (1,2) - mm why is this spaced different from 00:16:510 (1,2) - 00:17:851 (1,2) - which suppose to sound the same , imo make the spacing somehow consistent to each other would make thing play more smooth oops, applied
00:24:555 (1,2) - similiar to the above this is low spacing but 00:23:214 (1,2) - 00:21:873 (1,2) - high spacing okay wtf
00:32:096 (3,4,5) - i think the curve on this stream can be improved a bit , this looks better i think lol idk
SPOILER
mmh i think it's not as worth as it
00:48:661 - what this timing line snap to ? removed
01:03:456 (1,2) - sound similiar to 01:00:775 (1,2) - but why different spacing ? dunno lol
01:18:540 (2,3) - a bit weird to stop using jumps for emphasis cymbal here i think would flow better if you keep continue to jumps to emphasis cymbal fixed
00:45:356 (3,4) - would be better if the spacing here is a bit bigger to emphasis the snare on (4) better imo , try to move (4) to around x264 y276 rather emphasized vocal increasing the spacing between (4) and (5)
01:22:898 (3,4) - aaa no symmetry ? I think that would make this looks better oops

my main concern is some inconsistent in spacing for some notes after the slider , try to recheck them and make them consistent and correlate with the song it looks good now i think
[diginity]
00:34:778 (4,5) - i find that this should have higher spacing than 00:34:610 (3,4) - cus the snare there sound more impact than the kick imo , try move (4) to around x368 y224 ? mmh okay it looks cool
01:19:545 (1,2,3,4) - the curve feel off here for some reason fixed
01:20:718 (5,6,1) - same as above ^
01:33:959 (5,6,1,2) - rhythm play a bit awkward for me , was expect it to be like 01:31:277 (6,1,2) - but it's not , maybe try to make the rhythm there consistent to make it play better ? i don't think 1/4 there is need to be map lol okay lol

same as insane about the spacing for some notes after the slider same

thanks!

pkhg

2,507 posts

Joined May 2010

pkhg 2016-10-19T07:12:21+00:00

fixed all

osu file format v14

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iYiyo

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iYiyo 2017-09-03T19:42:19+00:00

ranked when :eyes:

pkhg

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pkhg 2017-09-05T01:34:02+00:00

fixed all

Kalibe

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Kalibe 2018-04-25T18:26:36+00:00

it's alive

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2018-04-27T19:10:03+00:00

change ton OD sur la topdiff sinan j'te monte en l'air

Irohas

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Irohas 2018-04-28T10:27:35+00:00

ok did

iYiyo

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iYiyo 2018-04-28T17:18:32+00:00

2 years ago wow

hype

~~1000th forum post o:~~

Irohas

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Irohas 2018-04-28T18:04:43+00:00

metadata:

IamKwaN wrote:
Sure thing!

Unicode Title: リライト
Romanised Title: rewrite
Artist: ASIAN KUNG-FU GENERATION
Source: 鋼の錬金術師

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http://puu.sh/pOMwM/bdf040a8e2.png from http://www.asiankung-fu.com/disco/archive/?KSCL-925
http://puu.sh/pOMEy/5f19508aee.jpg from http://www.asiankung-fu.com/eng/disco/KSCL-925.html

Good luck!

Kalibe

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Kalibe 2018-04-30T14:17:29+00:00

woke

pkhg

- as i don't really agree with your 1/2 usage in the whole diff, i'd rather to name it normal instead of easy, it might be edgy movement to keep those rhythms and say its easy difficulty lol. perhaps make ar like 4 for this
- 00:42:576 (7,8) - stack is kinda broken lol

normal

- 00:32:184 (3) - 2 circles instead would be better for emphasis that strong crash on 00:32:519 -
- 01:26:151 (4,5) - little nazi spacing error
- 01:33:525 - skipping snare is not cool though..
- 01:36:207 (6) - perhaps, maybe do something like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10839592 it will fit better with emphasising guitar

hazu

- 00:10:396 (4) - 00:11:234 (3) - 01:12:073 (4) - 01:33:525 (4) - missed clap
- 00:14:754 (1,2,3) - i feel like this is too dense compared to rhythms you've done later, so i think 1/1 slider + circle would works better imo
- 00:43:916 (4) - 00:22:464 (5) - are for hold vocals, so maybe silence ends?
- 00:54:978 (1) - missed finish on head and clap on repeat
- 01:10:732 (4) - there are no sounds on blue ticks, probably two circles would work nicer tbh

insane

- 00:09:056 (1) - 00:52:799 (1) - not really nessesary nc though
- 01:21:458 (1) - don't really feel like 1/4 fits here, since stronger sound is actually on blue tick, i'd go with 4 circles instead for 01:21:458 (1,2) -

dignity

- 00:01:346 (1) - slider could be more curvy due to nice guitar start in music
- 00:13:413 (1,2,3) - seems like a really low spacing compare to whole section, i'd increase it a bit
- 00:38:721 (1) - follows two snares, so it would be cute having this with faster sv setting
- 00:40:397 (2,3) - can you make this spacing similar to 00:41:066 (5,6) - to get the snare emphasised properly?
- 00:43:413 (1) - don't really like the idea of being drum on sliderend, 2 circles would be cooler
- 00:47:436 (2,1) - https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10839746 might be neater w
- 00:57:324 (3) - try maybe ctrl h ? https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10839757 flows cooler imo

that's all i think, nice ww

Reillia

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Joined August 2014

Reillia 2018-05-01T10:06:15+00:00

[pkhg]
i can't understand why u use 1/2 on 179 bpm. have 1/2 on slider + slider like 00:04:698 (2,3) - is understandable but 00:15:760 (7,8) - circle + slider and 01:02:184 (1,2) - circle + circle is quite overwhelming for newbies.

[normal]
01:06:374 (2) - this is a little bit close with hp bar

[hazu]
00:18:777 (1,4,1) - why did u avoid stacking this? i feel weird from it.
00:54:978 (1) - where is hitsounds..?
01:10:731 (4) - same thing with kalibe

[insane]
00:09:056 (1) - i think this nc is unnecessary

_Hou

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_Hou 2018-05-01T11:30:22+00:00

[dignity]
00:21:961 (3,4,1) - may be better to do regular stack, or at least put those in a straight line, looks a bit crooked
00:23:302 (3,2) - mby blanket
00:30:341 (4,5) - ^
01:08:888 (2,1) - ^
01:20:955 - this spot literally seems to be empty, whereas you start another kickslider, mby rhythm like that will be more suitable https://puu.sh/AdTNl.png
dunno if you mind that, but those parts seems the same to me but has diffrent rhythmics 00:18:776 (1,2,3,1,2,1,2) - 00:13:413 (1,2,3,4,5,6) -

[Insane]
01:03:022 (1,2) - 1/1 slider + circle instead for consistency with 01:00:341 (1,2) -
01:28:162 (4,5) - considered to be stacked, like here 01:17:771 (1,2) - and here 01:07:045 (1,2) -
01:30:173 (2,1) - ctrl+G to fit the vocals, mby
I dont think this note really exists 01:36:542 (1) - suggesting to remove it for all diifs

[hazu's hard]
00:21:961 (2,3,4) - there is no triple actually
00:26:822 (1,3) - blanket if possible
00:06:038 (4,5,6,7,1) - I'd reconsider using the only triple here, since you never do it again in a map, and use two repeating 1/4 sliders instead

[normal]
01:08:385 (1,2,3,4) - a little awkward rhythm to me, mby smth like that https://puu.sh/AdUed.png
01:33:525 - add circle here since you 've put it there 01:35:201 (4,5) -

Irohas

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Irohas 2018-05-01T13:08:02+00:00

did most of u said, thx guys!

pkhg

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pkhg 2018-05-01T19:28:23+00:00

im just trying to follow the song properly instead of making a nosensical chain of 1/1 objects
there are a lot of 1/1 and longer gaps and the 1/2 usage isnt heavy as most normal diffs so renaming it to normal wouldnt be a good idea
ar3.5
fixed stack

Irohas

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Irohas 2018-05-01T19:44:17+00:00

fixed for hazu since he's kinda ded

Kagetsu

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Kagetsu 2018-05-02T21:42:08+00:00

is it just me or the mp3 sounds like it was treble boosted hmmm

Irohas

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Irohas 2018-05-02T22:00:01+00:00

thx FLAC ver

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2018-05-02T23:39:49+00:00

ur dad is bald

General

drum-hitwhistle.wav is unrankable because it has a +5ms delay. (Check this link)
Here is a fixed version of the hitsound : https://puu.sh/AeUG7/a5376b8123.wav

Easy

00:03:357 (3) - Whistle is missing
00:15:927 (8) - I think hitfinish doesn't fit because there's nothing in the song that supports this hitsound. Maybe you could set the sampleset to Normal & Additions to Soft and add a Whistle instead ? So it follows 00:21:123 (8) - this which has a similar sounding. Also applies to 00:26:654 (8) - 00:42:743 (8) - 00:52:296 (1) - 00:53:469 (3) -
00:52:296 (1) - Replace the sliderhead hitsound to a whistle instead, similar sound as 00:50:955 (4) -
00:56:318 (4) - ^
00:57:659 (1) - ^

Normal

00:06:709 (1) - Remove hitfinish on slidertail, sounds alot better. Applies to 00:33:525 (1) - 01:21:793 (1) -
01:21:458 (6) - Normal additions whistle ? Follows the instrumental better

Hard

00:02:351 (4,1) - Spacing should be x1.4ds and that one 00:05:034 (4,1) - should have a higher spacing since the guitar's intensity is alot stronger compared to the other one.
00:11:235 (3,4) - fix ds
00:11:402 (4,5) - ^
00:12:576 (2) - Sometimes you whistles on similar sounds like 00:17:939 (2) - 00:28:665 (2) - 00:30:006 (2) - but sometimes you don't like 00:13:916 (2) - 00:15:257 (2) - 00:16:598 (2) - 00:19:279 (2) - so maybe you could choose if u wanna add whistles or not xd
00:14:754 (1) - Sampleset Drum/Additions Normal on sliderhead ? Applies to 00:23:469 (3) - 00:24:810 (3) - 00:25:480 (1) - (slidertail) 00:30:173 (3) -
00:38:218 (4,5) - fix ds
01:20:788 (2,3,4,1) - ^

Insane

OD 8 because OD 7 is reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

01:20:704 (1,2,1,2) - spacing is a bit too high between thoses 2 note+slider, maybe you could reduce it a bit ?
01:35:201 (4,1) - rip blanket

Dignity

00:48:944 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) -

I think you should recheck the hitsounding on every diff, some things actually are missing (check hard diff suggestions)

call me back bro

pkhg

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pkhg 2018-05-03T00:40:58+00:00

Kyuukai wrote:
ur dad is bald

Easy
00:03:357 (3) - Whistle is missingim using whistles for guitar so no
00:15:927 (8) - I think hitfinish doesn't fit because there's nothing in the song that supports this hitsound. Maybe you could set the sampleset to Normal & Additions to Soft and add a Whistle instead ? So it follows 00:21:123 (8) - this which has a similar sounding. Also applies to 00:26:654 (8) - 00:42:743 (8) - 00:52:296 (1) - 00:53:469 (3) - less volume
00:52:296 (1) - Replace the sliderhead hitsound to a whistle instead, similar sound as 00:50:955 (4) -
00:56:318 (4) - ^
00:57:659 (1) - ^ i think finishes are nice cuz voices intensity

Irohas

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Irohas 2018-05-03T08:35:35+00:00

Kyuukai wrote:
ur dad is bald

General
drum-hitwhistle.wav is unrankable because it has a +5ms delay. (Check this link)
Here is a fixed version of the hitsound : https://puu.sh/AeUG7/a5376b8123.wav ok replaced by this one

Normal
00:06:709 (1) - Remove hitfinish on slidertail, sounds alot better. Applies to 00:33:525 (1) - 01:21:793 (1) - did
01:21:458 (6) - Normal additions whistle ? Follows the instrumental better did in some way

Hard
00:02:351 (4,1) - Spacing should be x1.4ds and that one 00:05:034 (4,1) - should have a higher spacing since the guitar's intensity is alot stronger compared to the other one. did
00:11:235 (3,4) - fix ds did
00:11:402 (4,5) - ^ ^
00:12:576 (2) - Sometimes you whistles on similar sounds like 00:17:939 (2) - 00:28:665 (2) - 00:30:006 (2) - but sometimes you don't like 00:13:916 (2) - 00:15:257 (2) - 00:16:598 (2) - 00:19:279 (2) - so maybe you could choose if u wanna add whistles or not xd ya added whistle sounds
00:14:754 (1) - Sampleset Drum/Additions Normal on sliderhead ? Applies to 00:23:469 (3) - 00:24:810 (3) - 00:25:480 (1) - (slidertail) 00:30:173 (3) - sure
00:38:218 (4,5) - fix ds did
01:20:788 (2,3,4,1) - ^ ^

Insane
OD 8 because OD 7 is reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ^^
01:20:704 (1,2,1,2) - spacing is a bit too high between thoses 2 note+slider, maybe you could reduce it a bit ? okay
01:35:201 (4,1) - rip blanket ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Dignity
00:48:944 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4,1) - ;)
I think you should recheck the hitsounding on every diff, some things actually are missing (check hard diff suggestions) fixd

call me back bro

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2018-05-03T11:08:27+00:00

aaaa

Irohas

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Irohas 2018-05-03T11:27:29+00:00

converted the bg to .jpg as kyuukai asked

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2018-05-03T11:29:23+00:00

im -8000 IQ, rebubbled xdddd

Kalibe

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Kalibe 2018-05-05T22:15:00+00:00

od 7,5 on insane is better uwu

Irohas

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Irohas 2018-05-06T10:11:03+00:00

Kalibe wrote:
od 7,5 on insane is better uwu

i'll fix in the next mod!!

Kyuukai

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Kyuukai 2018-05-06T14:58:30+00:00

Irohas wrote:
Kalibe wrote:
od 7,5 on insane is better uwu
i'll fix in the next mod!!

ur dad big shaq

Irohas

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Irohas 2018-05-06T15:12:34+00:00

Kyuukai wrote:
ur dad big shaq

ur dad is ur mom

pkhg

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pkhg 2018-05-09T22:28:57+00:00

rank when

Hazu-

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Hazu- 2018-05-10T00:44:26+00:00

pls don't play this shit owo

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iYiyo

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iYiyo 2018-05-11T15:46:29+00:00

I remember when we both started mapping/modding around 3 years ago! Thanks for still being here ^^

Nominated.

Irohas

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Irohas 2018-05-11T15:55:09+00:00

iYiyo wrote:
I remember when we both started mapping/modding around 3 years ago! Thanks for still being here ^^

Nominated.

thanks man you too!
osu! needs you, i hope we'll continue to map still a long time!!

Lasse

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Lasse 2018-05-11T16:10:52+00:00

top diff rhythm feels like it simplifies the song too much, even for anime
00:04:028 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - what is this supposed to follow? there is a clear red tick focused rhythm in the song and you did it correctly on 00:01:849 (2,3,4,1) -
00:06:039 (2,3,1,2) -- ctrlg on rhythm would make much more sense with drum buildup in the song and also be much more intuitive to play cause random unfitting white tick triples are ???
00:07:045 (2,3,4) - 00:33:525 (1,2,3,4) - etc. basically same thing as first
overall there is so much red tick rhythm that gets completely ignored like 01:07:547 - 01:18:274 - etc. makes the map feel really bland rhythm wise since most of the time you end up just tapping to a metronome
when 01:07:045 (1,2) - for example could just be https://i.imgur.com/eYUZhuq.jpg to break up monotonous 1/2 spam and actually follow the song

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2018-05-11T16:30:01+00:00

Just my two cents since the way this was reported as an issue raised some eyebrows.

Lasse wrote:
top diff rhythm feels like it simplifies the song too much, even for anime
00:04:028 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - what is this supposed to follow? there is a clear red tick focused rhythm in the song and you did it correctly on 00:01:849 (2,3,4,1) -
00:06:039 (2,3,1,2) -- ctrlg on rhythm would make much more sense with drum buildup in the song and also be much more intuitive to play cause random unfitting white tick triples are ??? Please no doublets. This rhythm makes sense too. It's just a simplification of a 5-note stream in order to set up the parallel triplet + slider pattern with 00:06:709 (1) - ...
00:07:045 (2,3,4) - 00:33:525 (1,2,3,4) - etc. basically same thing as first
overall there is so much red tick rhythm that gets completely ignored like 01:07:547 - 01:18:274 - etc. makes the map feel really bland rhythm wise since most of the time you end up just tapping to a metronome
when 01:07:045 (1,2) - for example could just be https://i.imgur.com/eYUZhuq.jpg to break up monotonous 1/2 spam and actually follow the song

Please don't confuse "red tick note" for "red tick rhythm". That's poor mapping analysis. It is indeed true that there is a single vocal note on 01:02:184 - 01:04:866 - , but this is a single instance. The rhythm is not built into red-ticks, there is no shift in polarity. As well, the vocal emphasis is clearly on the white tick after that.

Also, it's quite clear Irohas is mapping to instruments, so recommending rhythmic changes be made to emphasize certain vocal notes is counter-intuitive to the map's rhythm choice anyways...

I can't speak for Irohas, but these "issues" seem poorly conceived...

Irohas

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Irohas 2018-05-11T16:30:44+00:00

Lasse wrote:
top diff rhythm feels like it simplifies the song too much, even for anime
00:04:028 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2) - what is this supposed to follow? there is a clear red tick focused rhythm in the song and you did it correctly on 00:01:849 (2,3,4,1) - but its getting more intense thats why i put circles here, its alot different than 00:02:519 (1,2,3,4) - especially for 00:05:369 (1,2) -
00:06:039 (2,3,1,2) -- ctrlg on rhythm would make much more sense with drum buildup in the song and also be much more intuitive to play cause random unfitting white tick triples are ??? no the most important snare sound is on the red tick
00:07:045 (2,3,4) - 00:33:525 (1,2,3,4) - etc. basically same thing as first u know drums are loud on white ticks, seems also fine to follow that rhythm
overall there is so much red tick rhythm that gets completely ignored like 01:07:547 - 01:18:274 - etc. makes the map feel really bland rhythm wise since most of the time you end up just tapping to a metronome
when 01:07:045 (1,2) - for example could just be https://i.imgur.com/eYUZhuq.jpg to break up monotonous 1/2 spam and actually follow the song but here i'm not following vocals

Monstrata wrote:
Also, it's quite clear Irohas is mapping to instruments, so recommending rhythmic changes be made to emphasize certain vocal notes is counter-intuitive to the map's rhythm choice anyways...

I can't speak for Irohas, but these "issues" seem poorly conceived...

ya totally lol its basically what i'm trying to follow in all my diffs

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Mir

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Mir 2018-05-11T16:31:38+00:00

hi more topdiff stuff, mostly about the drumrolls

can agree with lasse regarding 00:04:698 (1) - though, this is a little weird because the song is syncopated here yet the jumps just keep going, ignoring that completely

00:11:067 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - this part doesn't follow at all how you hitsounded it either, a rhythm like https://i.imgur.com/ipkNHPK.png would play much better
00:38:721 (1) - could be two circles cuz there's two snares whereas 00:38:553 (2) - is only 1 snare so the lack of differentiation feels weird
01:21:374 (1,2) - would be fitting to ctrl g this as well since there's nothing on 01:21:458 - and a snare on 01:21:374 -

other stuff lasse mentioned is also worth considering but to me the hitsounding not following the mapped rhythm in the drumrolls felt very out of place in particular

Monstrata

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Monstrata 2018-05-11T16:54:08+00:00

Mir wrote:
hi more topdiff stuff, mostly about the drumrolls

can agree with lasse regarding 00:04:698 (1) - though, this is a little weird because the song is syncopated here yet the jumps just keep going, ignoring that completely

00:11:067 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - this part doesn't follow at all how you hitsounded it either, a rhythm like https://i.imgur.com/ipkNHPK.png would play much better
00:38:721 (1) - could be two circles cuz there's two snares whereas 00:38:553 (2) - is only 1 snare so the lack of differentiation feels weird
01:21:374 (1,2) - would be fitting to ctrl g this as well since there's nothing on 01:21:458 - and a snare on 01:21:374 -

other stuff lasse mentioned is also worth considering but to me the hitsounding not following the mapped rhythm in the drumrolls felt very out of place in particular

I don't think I've ever hitsounded a drum roll the way I rhythm'ed it lol... drum rolls are honestly one of the best places to create interesting hitsound rhythms. Please please... you can recommend mappers to hitsound these sections like they'd rhythm them, but please don't say that hitsounding them in a different method is somehow wrong. Could point you to dozens of skystar Hollow Wings La Cataline Monstrata Narcissu maps that do stuff way more "off" than this. It's not "wrong", its honestly how you make hitsounds creative rather than just following the song.

iYiyo

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iYiyo 2018-05-11T17:09:34+00:00

I think I'm a bit late to the party, but basically what Monstrata said about hitsounds. Some parts could sound 'off' (by a little), but actually that's what makes hitsounds creative. Also Irohas is following instruments/drums pretty well, so I don't really think it's worth an issue, THOUGH if Irohas wants to improve something, then he should do it!

About the monotonous 1/2 spam, I think so far what Irohas did is alright, we are talking about a 1.30 tv size map. Stuffs like 00:10:732 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2,1) - 00:19:112 (3,1,2,1,2,1) - 01:20:452 (1,2,1,2,1,2,1,2,3,1) - are what really stand out from the map, which I think it's just fine

Anyway, I really like how you (qat) are more into maps nowadays. Though I'm mostly against those points, discussions are are always good (even more if those happens on the first days of qualificatinos, specially on v1 maps lol)

Mir

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Mir 2018-05-11T17:15:21+00:00

Monstrata wrote:
Mir wrote:
hi more topdiff stuff, mostly about the drumrolls

can agree with lasse regarding 00:04:698 (1) - though, this is a little weird because the song is syncopated here yet the jumps just keep going, ignoring that completely

00:11:067 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - this part doesn't follow at all how you hitsounded it either, a rhythm like https://i.imgur.com/ipkNHPK.png would play much better
00:38:721 (1) - could be two circles cuz there's two snares whereas 00:38:553 (2) - is only 1 snare so the lack of differentiation feels weird
01:21:374 (1,2) - would be fitting to ctrl g this as well since there's nothing on 01:21:458 - and a snare on 01:21:374 -

other stuff lasse mentioned is also worth considering but to me the hitsounding not following the mapped rhythm in the drumrolls felt very out of place in particular
I don't think I've ever hitsounded a drum roll the way I rhythm'ed it lol... drum rolls are honestly one of the best places to create interesting hitsound rhythms. Please please... you can recommend mappers to hitsound these sections like they'd rhythm them, but please don't say that hitsounding them in a different method is somehow wrong. Could point you to dozens of skystar Hollow Wings La Cataline Monstrata Narcissu maps that do stuff way more "off" than this. It's not "wrong", its honestly how you make hitsounds creative rather than just following the song.

Firstly, I never said it was "wrong."

Secondly, the reason I suggested it is it's really obvious that the rhythm doesn't match up with how the song is structured - which is specifically emphasizing certain beats that get brushed over by the current rhythm. At least changing the rhythm of the map so the hitsounding lines up a little better would make for a more cohesive experience from my point of view, since I didn't really get the rhythm when I was playing it.

I'm just making suggestions though, so just tell me whether or not you agree. I'm not looking for a mapping philosophy discussion on additive/creative hitsounding because I'm not interested in that.

I am even content to just leave if the reasoning provided makes sense.

Irohas

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Irohas 2018-05-11T17:17:35+00:00

Mir wrote:
hi more topdiff stuff, mostly about the drumrolls

can agree with lasse regarding 00:04:698 (1) - though, this is a little weird because the song is syncopated here yet the jumps just keep going, ignoring that completely mmh ya already responded in his mod

00:11:067 (1,2,3,1,2,3,1,2) - this part doesn't follow at all how you hitsounded it either, a rhythm like https://i.imgur.com/ipkNHPK.png would play much better i wanted to have kick sliders when the snare is loud, that's why i put them on 00:11:402 (1,1) -
00:38:721 (1) - could be two circles cuz there's two snares whereas 00:38:553 (2) - is only 1 snare so the lack of differentiation feels weird i think sv shows clearly claps sounds above are different
01:21:374 (1,2) - would be fitting to ctrl g this as well since there's nothing on 01:21:458 - and a snare on 01:21:374 - mmh sure

other stuff lasse mentioned is also worth considering but to me the hitsounding not following the mapped rhythm in the drumrolls felt very out of place in particular