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kantan:
these are all suggestions, the diff is perfectly ready for rank. however, I think you should still consider the alternatives.
00:07:263 (9) - i'd say to delete this. every other pattern in this section is the same timing except for this: 00:02:436 (1,2,3,4,5) - is d k kdk , 00:07:953 (10,11,12,13,14) - is d k ddk, etc. (the important part is that the timing is the same for those patterns) deleting this note makes sense to me, but an alternative route could be to add a d here 00:06:918 (9) - . however, then this section is the same as the one that follows it (00:13:470 (21) - through 00:24:504 (41) - ), so you should delete the note instead.
00:24:504 (41) - through 00:35:539 (63) - I personally do not agree with the direction you went with this section because the density of the notes is generally greater than the more intense sections before this one. it also takes away from any buildup to the next section, which slowly grows in intensity (which could be justified by increasing note density). a way that you could fix this is by deleting the following notes: 00:26:229 (43,44,45) - 00:28:987 (46,47,48) - . a small, minor change, but I feel it increases the structure of the map relative to the song.
01:17:608 (135,136) - ctrl+g because there's not really an especially important sound on 01:17:608 (135) -
futsuu:
00:13:470 (20) - for this section I think that you should maybe introduce the 1/2 pattern more relative to the change of song intensity. a way to do this would be to swap this pattern 00:14:849 (22,23,24) - with this one 00:23:298 (37,38,39) - .
00:25:194 (41) - imo add a d in this spot and in this spot 00:25:884 (42) - so that this section is more structurally similar, and no especially important sounds are introduced.
00:36:573 (65) - imo delete this note and add a d here 00:38:815 (69) - for consistency.
00:43:470 (78) - move this note to here 00:42:780 (77) - for structural consistency, since the song still doesn't call for a change in rhythm
00:51:918 (99) - maayyyybe delete this note, but move this note 00:53:298 (103) - to 00:52:953 (103) - , again, for consistency. this is a major theme in my mod because this is still a low difficulty.
00:54:677 (107) - delete this note, because it does not have the weird high-pitched wubby noise that the previous patterns had (00:51:918 (99) - and 00:53:298 (103) - )
01:53:125 (211,212,213) - an alternative to these sliders could just be a spinner, but it doesn't really matter
for the last kiai, it's more of the same considering the previous suggestions. if you have already declined all of the suggestions relating to consistency/structure so far, pointing these out would be a waste of time for both of us. if you have accepted them, you can either try to apply the same things to this part of the map or talk to me in pms (discord is strickluke#3695)
silly Stefan, not modding low diffs
good luck on this set
these are all suggestions, the diff is perfectly ready for rank. however, I think you should still consider the alternatives.
00:07:263 (9) - i'd say to delete this. every other pattern in this section is the same timing except for this: 00:02:436 (1,2,3,4,5) - is d k kdk , 00:07:953 (10,11,12,13,14) - is d k ddk, etc. (the important part is that the timing is the same for those patterns) deleting this note makes sense to me, but an alternative route could be to add a d here 00:06:918 (9) - . however, then this section is the same as the one that follows it (00:13:470 (21) - through 00:24:504 (41) - ), so you should delete the note instead.
00:24:504 (41) - through 00:35:539 (63) - I personally do not agree with the direction you went with this section because the density of the notes is generally greater than the more intense sections before this one. it also takes away from any buildup to the next section, which slowly grows in intensity (which could be justified by increasing note density). a way that you could fix this is by deleting the following notes: 00:26:229 (43,44,45) - 00:28:987 (46,47,48) - . a small, minor change, but I feel it increases the structure of the map relative to the song.
01:17:608 (135,136) - ctrl+g because there's not really an especially important sound on 01:17:608 (135) -
00:13:470 (20) - for this section I think that you should maybe introduce the 1/2 pattern more relative to the change of song intensity. a way to do this would be to swap this pattern 00:14:849 (22,23,24) - with this one 00:23:298 (37,38,39) - .
00:25:194 (41) - imo add a d in this spot and in this spot 00:25:884 (42) - so that this section is more structurally similar, and no especially important sounds are introduced.
00:36:573 (65) - imo delete this note and add a d here 00:38:815 (69) - for consistency.
00:43:470 (78) - move this note to here 00:42:780 (77) - for structural consistency, since the song still doesn't call for a change in rhythm
00:51:918 (99) - maayyyybe delete this note, but move this note 00:53:298 (103) - to 00:52:953 (103) - , again, for consistency. this is a major theme in my mod because this is still a low difficulty.
00:54:677 (107) - delete this note, because it does not have the weird high-pitched wubby noise that the previous patterns had (00:51:918 (99) - and 00:53:298 (103) - )
01:53:125 (211,212,213) - an alternative to these sliders could just be a spinner, but it doesn't really matter
for the last kiai, it's more of the same considering the previous suggestions. if you have already declined all of the suggestions relating to consistency/structure so far, pointing these out would be a waste of time for both of us. if you have accepted them, you can either try to apply the same things to this part of the map or talk to me in pms (discord is strickluke#3695)
silly Stefan, not modding low diffs
good luck on this set
thanks for the mod 8)strickluke wrote:
futsuu:
00:13:470 (20) - for this section I think that you should maybe introduce the 1/2 pattern more relative to the change of song intensity. a way to do this would be to swap this pattern 00:14:849 (22,23,24) - with this one 00:23:298 (37,38,39) - . changed
00:25:194 (41) - imo add a d in this spot and in this spot 00:25:884 (42) - so that this section is more structurally similar, and no especially important sounds are introduced. dont think ill change, kats sound pretty familiar
00:36:573 (65) - imo delete this note and add a d here 00:38:815 (69) - for consistency. done
00:43:470 (78) - move this note to here 00:42:780 (77) - for structural consistency, since the song still doesn't call for a change in rhythm done
00:51:918 (99) - maayyyybe delete this note, but move this note 00:53:298 (103) - to 00:52:953 (103) - , again, for consistency. this is a major theme in my mod because this is still a low difficulty. ee i think ill keep it this way
00:54:677 (107) - delete this note, because it does not have the weird high-pitched wubby noise that the previous patterns had (00:51:918 (99) - and 00:53:298 (103) - ) done
01:53:125 (211,212,213) - an alternative to these sliders could just be a spinner, but it doesn't really matter id rather keep the sliders there imo
for the last kiai, it's more of the same considering the previous suggestions. if you have already declined all of the suggestions relating to consistency/structure so far, pointing these out would be a waste of time for both of us. if you have accepted them, you can either try to apply the same things to this part of the map or talk to me in pms (discord is strickluke#3695)
silly Stefan, not modding low diffs
good luck on this set
http://puu.sh/y11Wx/7e8159ae2c.osu
rest appliedStefan wrote:
Modding in the new forum B)
[Inner Oni]
00:22:091 (53) - Although kddkddd looks more common to use I'd say to go with kdkkddk to support the lighter sound at 00:22:091 - .
00:44:677 (62,63,64) - the concept of using kat notes only for this section looks neat but then again, these three don note falls out of that while there are no bigger differences. change them to kat notes.
01:14:677 (19) - The next kat note should be emphasized.. because.. you know. no dude the rest of the snares arent emphasized
01:41:401 - pretty minor but the SV transision is smoother if you would add 0.85x here.
I will be back later to mod Futsuu/Kantan.
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Topic Starter
updated kantan, futsuu and inner oni
'kay.
[Futsuu]
01:41:746 - 01:51:401 - my 2ct but undermapping so much isn't really necessary. I think there is enough room you could use some neato pattern.
[Kantan]
00:26:229 - 00:46:573 - having Kantan and Futsuu nearly equal looks odd to me, I suggest removing notes such as 00:26:918 (36) - , 00:29:677 (40) - and 00:34:504 (49) - .
and basically what I have wrote before for Oni and Muzukashii. Also, it seems that some notes in the Mania difficulties are unsnapped? https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/oAyPmsAZ.png I mean from what i saw they are snapped to 1/8 (for whatever reasons??) but err, I have mentioned it, just to be sure.
[Futsuu]
01:41:746 - 01:51:401 - my 2ct but undermapping so much isn't really necessary. I think there is enough room you could use some neato pattern.
[Kantan]
00:26:229 - 00:46:573 - having Kantan and Futsuu nearly equal looks odd to me, I suggest removing notes such as 00:26:918 (36) - , 00:29:677 (40) - and 00:34:504 (49) - .
and basically what I have wrote before for Oni and Muzukashii. Also, it seems that some notes in the Mania difficulties are unsnapped? https://derpovic.s-ul.eu/oAyPmsAZ.png I mean from what i saw they are snapped to 1/8 (for whatever reasons??) but err, I have mentioned it, just to be sure.
Topic Starter
last update to Oni removed a few SV and nerfed the intro to mostly 1/2 with simple 1/4 triplets/doublets
this update changes a few more SV
this update changes a few more SV
diff
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288,160,131056,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,131142,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,131229,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,131401,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,131487,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,131573,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,131660,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,131746,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,131918,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,224,132091,1,4,0:0:0:0:
288,160,132436,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,224,132608,1,4,0:0:0:0:
224,224,132780,1,4,0:0:0:0:
288,160,132953,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,133039,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,133125,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,133211,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,133298,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,133384,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,133470,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,133642,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,133815,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,133901,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,133987,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,134160,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,134246,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,134332,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,134418,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,134504,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,134677,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,224,134849,1,4,0:0:0:0:
288,224,135194,1,12,0:0:0:0:
224,224,135367,1,4,0:0:0:0:
224,224,135539,1,4,0:0:0:0:
224,160,135711,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,135798,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,135884,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,224,136056,1,12,0:0:0:0:
224,224,136229,1,4,0:0:0:0:
224,160,136401,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,136487,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,136573,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,136660,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,136746,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,136918,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,137004,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,137091,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,137177,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,137263,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,224,137436,1,4,0:0:0:0:
224,224,137608,1,4,0:0:0:0:
288,160,137953,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,138125,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,138298,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,138384,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,138556,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,138642,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,138815,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,224,138987,1,12,0:0:0:0:
288,160,139677,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,224,140367,5,4,0:0:0:0:
288,160,141056,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,224,141746,1,4,0:0:0:0:
288,160,142436,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,224,143125,1,4,0:0:0:0:
224,224,143815,1,4,0:0:0:0:
224,224,144504,1,4,0:0:0:0:
224,224,144849,1,4,0:0:0:0:
288,224,145194,1,12,0:0:0:0:
288,160,146229,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,146573,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,146918,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,147263,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,147780,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,147953,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,148298,1,0,0:0:0:0:
224,160,148642,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,149332,1,8,0:0:0:0:
224,160,150022,1,0,0:0:0:0:
288,160,150367,1,8,0:0:0:0:
288,160,150711,1,8,0:0:0:0:
will apply changes to muzukashii right after i'm done writing 1,900 words today
i take back my words, we're not even mapping the same fuckin soundsUnmei Muma wrote:
will apply changes to muzukashii right after i'm done writing 1,900 words today
Topic Starter
updated oni
i have no brain, ill see what ill put thereStefan wrote:
'kay.
[Futsuu]
01:41:746 - 01:51:401 - my 2ct but undermapping so much isn't really necessary. I think there is enough room you could use some neato pattern.
ribbit
Lv. 3
00:48:642 (48642|0,48815|3,48987|1,49160|3,49332|2,49332|1) - This is a little too dense compared to the rest of the diff, even if it is in the kiai. Remove 00:49:160 (49160|3) - and possibly even 00:48:815 (48815|3) - to ease this section while still following the music (and adjust columns for other notes as you see fit)
00:52:953 (52953|0,53125|3,53298|1,53470|3,53470|0) - Likewise ^, since there's no LN though, you can just remove 00:53:298 (53298|1).
00:54:160 (54160|0,54332|3,54504|1,54677|2,54849|1,54849|3) - Same as above.
00:57:953 - I'm pretty confused as to why you ignore these heavy drum sounds in favour of a more complex rhythm for the lowest diff in particular (also especially since you don't even use that snap in the next diff consistency pls). Try this as a more appropriate alternative: https://puu.sh/yMgtd/d36adebf78.png
01:55:539 - It's fine but you could go for LNs here.
02:28:642 (148642|1,149332|2,150022|1,150367|3,150711|0) - Please ctrl-H this for PR
Cont.
Lv. 5
You should implement more LNs in the section before the first kiai, so it's less of a 1/1 snoozefest, in places like 00:27:953 - 00:38:987 - and I guess anywhere else with a held vocal without going too overboard. You don't have to commit to making this section LN, just make it a little more varied.
01:16:918 (76918|0,77493|2) - Fairly certain this, and the next 1/3rd snap should be on the 1/4th blue tick instead, these sound too early. I might be wrong though, so double check.
01:22:436 (82436|1,82436|3,82996|2,83125|1,83125|3,83686|1,83815|2,83987|1,83987|3,84160|3,84160|1) - Column 1 weeps. In any case this is way too repetitive with the patterns, not even taking the different pitch for the doubles that have the same pattern/column. 01:22:996 (82996|2) - Move this over to 1 and 01:23:125 (83125|3) - over to 3, and change 01:23:686 (83686|1,83815|2,83987|1,83987|3,84160|3,84160|1) - to https://puu.sh/yTgMz/038ce9b435.png
01:46:142 (106142|1,106229|3) - Move this to 4-1 for PR.
02:29:332 (149332|0,150022|3,150367|1,150711|0) - Same as in Lv. 3, rearrange for pitch please, apply to the later diffs as well.
Lv. 8
01:51:401 (111401|0) - Not a fan of extending this LN past 01:53:125, the strings held note cuts off here and having the same LN represent two different sounds (i.e. violin and the quiet build-up synth past 01:53:125) isn't something I can approve of.
Lv. 13
01:57:004 - Should map this tick here, there is a sound here despite the vocal tick covering it. I thought you left this out intentionally in the HD when I looked at it to distinguish the two diffs lmao
02:30:367 - If you're going to have doubles in this section, then the last two notes should be triples to compensate.
Will get someone to run through the harder diffs for me, call me back when this is applied so we can get this set underway.
Lv. 3
00:48:642 (48642|0,48815|3,48987|1,49160|3,49332|2,49332|1) - This is a little too dense compared to the rest of the diff, even if it is in the kiai. Remove 00:49:160 (49160|3) - and possibly even 00:48:815 (48815|3) - to ease this section while still following the music (and adjust columns for other notes as you see fit)
00:52:953 (52953|0,53125|3,53298|1,53470|3,53470|0) - Likewise ^, since there's no LN though, you can just remove 00:53:298 (53298|1).
00:54:160 (54160|0,54332|3,54504|1,54677|2,54849|1,54849|3) - Same as above.
00:57:953 - I'm pretty confused as to why you ignore these heavy drum sounds in favour of a more complex rhythm for the lowest diff in particular (also especially since you don't even use that snap in the next diff consistency pls). Try this as a more appropriate alternative: https://puu.sh/yMgtd/d36adebf78.png
01:55:539 - It's fine but you could go for LNs here.
02:28:642 (148642|1,149332|2,150022|1,150367|3,150711|0) - Please ctrl-H this for PR
Cont.
Lv. 5
You should implement more LNs in the section before the first kiai, so it's less of a 1/1 snoozefest, in places like 00:27:953 - 00:38:987 - and I guess anywhere else with a held vocal without going too overboard. You don't have to commit to making this section LN, just make it a little more varied.
01:16:918 (76918|0,77493|2) - Fairly certain this, and the next 1/3rd snap should be on the 1/4th blue tick instead, these sound too early. I might be wrong though, so double check.
01:22:436 (82436|1,82436|3,82996|2,83125|1,83125|3,83686|1,83815|2,83987|1,83987|3,84160|3,84160|1) - Column 1 weeps. In any case this is way too repetitive with the patterns, not even taking the different pitch for the doubles that have the same pattern/column. 01:22:996 (82996|2) - Move this over to 1 and 01:23:125 (83125|3) - over to 3, and change 01:23:686 (83686|1,83815|2,83987|1,83987|3,84160|3,84160|1) - to https://puu.sh/yTgMz/038ce9b435.png
01:46:142 (106142|1,106229|3) - Move this to 4-1 for PR.
02:29:332 (149332|0,150022|3,150367|1,150711|0) - Same as in Lv. 3, rearrange for pitch please, apply to the later diffs as well.
Lv. 8
01:51:401 (111401|0) - Not a fan of extending this LN past 01:53:125, the strings held note cuts off here and having the same LN represent two different sounds (i.e. violin and the quiet build-up synth past 01:53:125) isn't something I can approve of.
Lv. 13
01:57:004 - Should map this tick here, there is a sound here despite the vocal tick covering it. I thought you left this out intentionally in the HD when I looked at it to distinguish the two diffs lmao
02:30:367 - If you're going to have doubles in this section, then the last two notes should be triples to compensate.
Will get someone to run through the harder diffs for me, call me back when this is applied so we can get this set underway.
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Re
all accepted thx
all accepted thx
birthday bubble
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Happy birthday, birthday girl
happy birthday girl
naon aa'
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eekpost
[General]
add Gezoda to tags, because name change.
[Oni]
a bit rough to use OD6 for this Oni, might using 5~5.5 max instead.
[Muzukashii]
fix SV via notepad, it's bugged to 1.3999.. change it to 1.40.
I really don't see the need of HP6 here, nerf it down to HP5.
[Futsuu]
Nerf the OD to 4.
00:32:780 (55) - move the note to 00:33:125 - , by far a stronger sound you could follow and provide a better break phase.
00:57:263 (114) - might skip this note to break off the relatively long combo chain.
02:01:056 - 02:20:367 - it's strange how much lighter you've made the late kiai parts compared to the first one. I don't think it's design-wise a good concept, try to make them approx. equal from the density. (Either nerf first kiai or buff late kiais)
call me back when fixed
add Gezoda to tags, because name change.
[Oni]
a bit rough to use OD6 for this Oni, might using 5~5.5 max instead.
[Muzukashii]
fix SV via notepad, it's bugged to 1.3999.. change it to 1.40.
I really don't see the need of HP6 here, nerf it down to HP5.
[Futsuu]
Nerf the OD to 4.
00:32:780 (55) - move the note to 00:33:125 - , by far a stronger sound you could follow and provide a better break phase.
00:57:263 (114) - might skip this note to break off the relatively long combo chain.
02:01:056 - 02:20:367 - it's strange how much lighter you've made the late kiai parts compared to the first one. I don't think it's design-wise a good concept, try to make them approx. equal from the density. (Either nerf first kiai or buff late kiais)
call me back when fixed
i think i gotta ask you a bit of stuff about the last point, but i tried changing a bit thereStefan wrote:
eally don't see the need of HP6 here, nerf it down to HP5.
[Futsuu]
Nerf the OD to 4.
00:32:780 (55) - move the note to 00:33:125 - , by far a stronger sound you could follow and provide a better break phase.
00:57:263 (114) - might skip this note to break off the relatively long combo chain.
02:01:056 - 02:20:367 - it's strange how much lighter you've made the late kiai parts compared to the first one. I don't think it's design-wise a good concept, try to make them approx. equal from the density. (Either nerf first kiai or buff late kiais)
anything else has been fixed
http://puu.sh/zcbEe/04fb491857.osu foot shoe
Topic Starter
updated
take care fam,
hihi, uh i accidentally closed out of the tab when i wass writing but thankfully i did get a screenshot of what i wrote... most of it at least sorry for the clumsiness
01:41:746 (1) - 01:57:953 (1) - similarly to what i said at 01:19:677 (1) - , try to use all the sounds available to make this section fit in between the kantan and muzukashii correctly
-> remember to apply 1st kiai changes to 2nd kiai as well
in the 3rd kiai, feel free to apply the same changes as you did in the other two kiais, but the intensity here is slightly higher due to the presence of bass kicks, etc. for instance, 02:10:539 (1,1,1,1,1) - could be k k d d k d d k k d. more freedom for denser
02:21:056 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - try to make this section more dense, as this is kind of the final buildup of the song after all
hope this helped a bit c:
just in case someone thinks i didn't write that screenshot, here is the full pic https://puu.sh/zeLNl/a17a030b6f.png
sorry for the clumsiness01:41:746 (1) - 01:57:953 (1) - similarly to what i said at 01:19:677 (1) - , try to use all the sounds available to make this section fit in between the kantan and muzukashii correctly
-> remember to apply 1st kiai changes to 2nd kiai as well
in the 3rd kiai, feel free to apply the same changes as you did in the other two kiais, but the intensity here is slightly higher due to the presence of bass kicks, etc. for instance, 02:10:539 (1,1,1,1,1) - could be k k d d k d d k k d. more freedom for denser
02:21:056 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - try to make this section more dense, as this is kind of the final buildup of the song after all
hope this helped a bit c:
just in case someone thinks i didn't write that screenshot, here is the full pic https://puu.sh/zeLNl/a17a030b6f.png
sorry for late reply, fixed it all! thank you!!incandescence wrote:
hihi, uh i accidentally closed out of the tab when i wass writing but thankfully i did get a screenshot of what i wrote... most of it at least
01:41:746 (1) - 01:57:953 (1) - similarly to what i said at 01:19:677 (1) - , try to use all the sounds available to make this section fit in between the kantan and muzukashii correctly
-> remember to apply 1st kiai changes to 2nd kiai as well
in the 3rd kiai, feel free to apply the same changes as you did in the other two kiais, but the intensity here is slightly higher due to the presence of bass kicks, etc. for instance, 02:10:539 (1,1,1,1,1) - could be k k d d k d d k k d. more freedom for denser
02:21:056 (1,1,1,1,1,1,1,1) - try to make this section more dense, as this is kind of the final buildup of the song after all
hope this helped a bit c:
just in case someone thinks i didn't write that screenshot, here is the full pic https://puu.sh/zeLNl/a17a030b6f.png
http://puu.sh/zkOEB/89aeb3902e.osu
Can I point out that certain spots like 01:14:677 - and 01:09:160 - in the oni and inner oni should be 1/3 snaps instead of 1/4 or 1/2 respectively.
However, 01:15:367 - is ok since that is aligned with the synth.
Later on (this is in the oni) the same rhythm is repeated with a different instrument, but is mapped as 1/3, so that should act as precedent to the changes mentioned above.
I also found in the oni that this note 01:37:838 (32) - should be moved to the 1/2 snap, there's no reason for it to be 1/3 snap and it's confusing in gameplay, as it should be identical to this pattern 01:35:022 - .
I believe this set needs a couple mods before it's ready to rank. There is a lack of mods on the top 3 difficulties, and an error like using a 1/3 snap when it's supposed to be 1/2 being looked over means there is sure to be other small issues to still be found.
However, 01:15:367 - is ok since that is aligned with the synth.
Later on (this is in the oni) the same rhythm is repeated with a different instrument, but is mapped as 1/3, so that should act as precedent to the changes mentioned above.
I also found in the oni that this note 01:37:838 (32) - should be moved to the 1/2 snap, there's no reason for it to be 1/3 snap and it's confusing in gameplay, as it should be identical to this pattern 01:35:022 - .
I believe this set needs a couple mods before it's ready to rank. There is a lack of mods on the top 3 difficulties, and an error like using a 1/3 snap when it's supposed to be 1/2 being looked over means there is sure to be other small issues to still be found.
Topic Starter
updated shiguri's diff
fixed 1/3, changed a few patterns on my own fixing minor inconsistencies or patterns that are hard for Oni
Topic Starter
also fixed some stuff on raiden's diff
puxtu asked me to mod the futsuu only so idk
he also asked me if i could try to nerf this difficulty specifically, so my suggestions are mostly nerf-based, sorry for any inconvenience ;w;
-Shiguri's Futsuu-
00:13:470 (1) - finisher maybe? that weird cymbal thing is too clear, and a finish would follow nicely
00:24:504 (1) - ^, but because it would emphasize the change of rhythm of the song
00:46:573 (1) - ^, literally does a mix here lol
00:49:677 - Maybe try a kdk k d here? would simplify a little bit (yeah this includes deleting 00:51:056 (1) -
00:56:056 (1) - Delete this maybe? the pattern is too long imo, besides without it, it would give more focus to that violin
00:57:608 - What about K ddd d k, it would simplify the rhythm a bit better imo
00:59:504 - and here dkkd k would nerf that long pattern a bit
01:05:711 (1) - deleting this would be better to nerf this pattern imo, too long
01:08:642 (1) - What about a finisher here?
01:13:125 - you could add a d here, theres a sound too clear imo
01:19:677 (1) - Maybe finisher? change of rhythm
01:29:332 - and you could add a k here, to follow the piano/bell (idk what instrument is that, sorry) sound
01:30:711 (1) - Maybe finisher? change of rhythm and cymbal sound thing would fit nicely with it
02:00:884 (2) - Maybe delete to shorten pattern? too long imo
02:03:125 - you could add a k here, would follow that increasing pitch instrument at the background
02:16:056 (1) - and why not delete this? shorten pattern
02:17:263 (1) - maybe make this d? would give more emphasis on the next note
its pretty good uwu
he also asked me if i could try to nerf this difficulty specifically, so my suggestions are mostly nerf-based, sorry for any inconvenience ;w;
-Shiguri's Futsuu-
00:13:470 (1) - finisher maybe? that weird cymbal thing is too clear, and a finish would follow nicely
00:24:504 (1) - ^, but because it would emphasize the change of rhythm of the song
00:46:573 (1) - ^, literally does a mix here lol
00:49:677 - Maybe try a kdk k d here? would simplify a little bit (yeah this includes deleting 00:51:056 (1) -
00:56:056 (1) - Delete this maybe? the pattern is too long imo, besides without it, it would give more focus to that violin
00:57:608 - What about K ddd d k, it would simplify the rhythm a bit better imo
00:59:504 - and here dkkd k would nerf that long pattern a bit
01:05:711 (1) - deleting this would be better to nerf this pattern imo, too long
01:08:642 (1) - What about a finisher here?
01:13:125 - you could add a d here, theres a sound too clear imo
01:19:677 (1) - Maybe finisher? change of rhythm
01:29:332 - and you could add a k here, to follow the piano/bell (idk what instrument is that, sorry) sound
01:30:711 (1) - Maybe finisher? change of rhythm and cymbal sound thing would fit nicely with it
02:00:884 (2) - Maybe delete to shorten pattern? too long imo
02:03:125 - you could add a k here, would follow that increasing pitch instrument at the background
02:16:056 (1) - and why not delete this? shorten pattern
02:17:263 (1) - maybe make this d? would give more emphasis on the next note
its pretty good uwu
Since Vulkin already posted a nice list of things to be fixed on this difficulty, I deem puxtu's call as no longer valid.
That's probably better anyways, since I feel like the Futsuu needed a buff from the get-go.
That's probably better anyways, since I feel like the Futsuu needed a buff from the get-go.
shouldve fixed it all, except that one thing where i replied to, thanks for modding!Vulkin wrote:
-Shiguri's Futsuu-
00:13:470 (1) - finisher maybe? that weird cymbal thing is too clear, and a finish would follow nicely
00:24:504 (1) - ^, but because it would emphasize the change of rhythm of the song
00:46:573 (1) - ^, literally does a mix here lol
00:49:677 - Maybe try a kdk k d here? would simplify a little bit (yeah this includes deleting 00:51:056 (1) -
00:56:056 (1) - Delete this maybe? the pattern is too long imo, besides without it, it would give more focus to that violin
00:57:608 - What about K ddd d k, it would simplify the rhythm a bit better imo
00:59:504 - and here dkkd k would nerf that long pattern a bit
01:05:711 (1) - deleting this would be better to nerf this pattern imo, too long
01:08:642 (1) - What about a finisher here? ee idk really, there are notes that sound exactly the same as this one without a finish then,
dont really like how it sounds as well
01:13:125 - you could add a d here, theres a sound too clear imo
01:19:677 (1) - Maybe finisher? change of rhythm
01:29:332 - and you could add a k here, to follow the piano/bell (idk what instrument is that, sorry) sound
01:30:711 (1) - Maybe finisher? change of rhythm and cymbal sound thing would fit nicely with it
02:00:884 (2) - Maybe delete to shorten pattern? too long imo
02:03:125 - you could add a k here, would follow that increasing pitch instrument at the background
02:16:056 (1) - and why not delete this? shorten pattern
02:17:263 (1) - maybe make this d? would give more emphasis on the next note
its pretty good uwu
http://puu.sh/zvn9f/022c0879ae.osu
a buff? it was a nerfing suggestion mod thoZetera wrote:
That's probably better anyways, since I feel like the Futsuu needed a buff from the get-go.
btw what call? just curious
the futsuu is in need of a buff, not a nerf lol
for the record buff = to make something harder, nerf = to make smth easier, just incase there was an error in communication
for the record buff = to make something harder, nerf = to make smth easier, just incase there was an error in communication
Topic Starter
lmao sorry my mistake, I thought that diff needed nerf cuz it's closer to muzu and too far with kantan
honestly idk how taiko spread works xD
honestly idk how taiko spread works xD
welp fml
Sorry Shiguri for messing up your futsuu
Sorry Shiguri for messing up your futsuu
Sorry Vulkin, I assume I didn't make things clear enough. The mod went in a different direction than my intention, so I thought I had better not post anything.
Anyways, since the futsuu is actually in need of a buff, I'll do my best to arrange that.
So, let's talk spread first. The Muzu is substantially harder than the Futsuu, to a point at which correlations between Kantan and Futsuu are visible, but not between Muzu and Futsuu. Ideally, you'd want there to be an even spread between the two. The main characteristics that make the Muzu hard are triplets/quintuplets snapped on 1/4 and longer patterns. We ave limited options for the Futsuu, but we can try to apply some of those traits to that diff as well.
In order to do so, let's first work on emphasis. When I look at the breaks spread throughout the Futsuu, I get the impression that they are just there, without a proper sense of balance or consistency. This makes the parts that do not have breaks look a bit off.
00:27:953 - Consider deleting this note as t provides a consistent break pattern with 00:25:194 - . Starting to emphasize that extra note at 00:30:711 - is perfectly fine since the music is becoming more intense as we move through this part of the song.
01:03:125 - this note should definitely be isolated. There should not be a note 1/1 later, since it takes away the emphasis of the previous note.
01:20:367 - You could technically get rid of this note as well, just to increase the emphasis on 01:19:677 - .
02:03:815 - This note also lacks emphasis due to 02:04:160 - being so close.
02:25:194 - I wish this was a don finisher to make a little bit of a difference in terms of emphasis. You used d k k three times out of four, so using this pattern at the end doesn't add anything, even though the music gets a lot more tragic towards the end there. a kat finisher also does the job.
You can keep all existing breaks, if they don't happen to be modded out by the following bits.
00:13:125 - Please add a don here, as you were following the bass synthesizer.
Please add dons at 00:17:780 - and 00:23:298 - to keep it consistent with the current don doubles.
00:32:780 - I wish there was a kat here, just to emphasize the synthesizer. It sort of feels like you can't decide on what to follow here, so parts of this section follow the vocals and parts follow the instrument, which doesn't appear as too consistent or clean. I'll just make you follow the synthesizer primarily for rhythm and the vocals for colour choice, if that is okay with you.
00:35:194 - Please add another k here to include the synthesizer.
00:36:056 - This doublet is not consistent, this is the only part at which it appears. I assume that you meant to follow the rising synthesizer sounds that appear in doubles, and that is fine, but you need to keep that consistent so that you don't make it look like you placed it there randomly. You have a couple of options for that, you can either add notes at 00:38:815 - and 00:41:573 - or you can increase the density generally by emphasizing this rising sound more often, for example at 00:36:573 - and 00:36:746 - by simply adding two ks. I'd do this for every part of the section once (i.e. 00:39:332 - , 00:42:091 -, excluding the last one; please keep the vocals in mind when placing colours).
00:56:056 - You can add a don here if you want.
01:00:884 - This rhythm right here is slightly free-style. However, it'll be fine if you just add a k at 01:00:711 - .
01:06:401 - A don would fit really nicely here.
This is just a suggestion, but have you considered starting your sliders on 01:54:160 - and 01:55:539 - , placing a note at 01:56:918 - ? You know, downbeats and stuff just like in standard.
02:02:436 - to 02:03:470 - generally kind of lacks emphasis, I'd use a different pattern altogether. Consider using, starting at 02:02:436 - : k d k k d k d d. This pattern stops at 02:03:642 - , and is snapped on 1/2s. Furthermore, if you get rid of 02:03:815 - , you can make 02:04:160 - a finisher. This makes sense due to the delayed high note climax.
02:13:125 - I'd add a don here to include the snare.
02:14:332 - a kat at this position not only increases the emphasis of 02:14:849 - , but also fits in nicely in terms of density due to the previous two doublets. If you change this, please add a d at 02:18:815 - as well.
And that'll be it! Good luck!
Anyways, since the futsuu is actually in need of a buff, I'll do my best to arrange that.
So, let's talk spread first. The Muzu is substantially harder than the Futsuu, to a point at which correlations between Kantan and Futsuu are visible, but not between Muzu and Futsuu. Ideally, you'd want there to be an even spread between the two. The main characteristics that make the Muzu hard are triplets/quintuplets snapped on 1/4 and longer patterns. We ave limited options for the Futsuu, but we can try to apply some of those traits to that diff as well.
In order to do so, let's first work on emphasis. When I look at the breaks spread throughout the Futsuu, I get the impression that they are just there, without a proper sense of balance or consistency. This makes the parts that do not have breaks look a bit off.
00:27:953 - Consider deleting this note as t provides a consistent break pattern with 00:25:194 - . Starting to emphasize that extra note at 00:30:711 - is perfectly fine since the music is becoming more intense as we move through this part of the song.
01:03:125 - this note should definitely be isolated. There should not be a note 1/1 later, since it takes away the emphasis of the previous note.
01:20:367 - You could technically get rid of this note as well, just to increase the emphasis on 01:19:677 - .
02:03:815 - This note also lacks emphasis due to 02:04:160 - being so close.
02:25:194 - I wish this was a don finisher to make a little bit of a difference in terms of emphasis. You used d k k three times out of four, so using this pattern at the end doesn't add anything, even though the music gets a lot more tragic towards the end there. a kat finisher also does the job.
You can keep all existing breaks, if they don't happen to be modded out by the following bits.
00:13:125 - Please add a don here, as you were following the bass synthesizer.
Please add dons at 00:17:780 - and 00:23:298 - to keep it consistent with the current don doubles.
00:32:780 - I wish there was a kat here, just to emphasize the synthesizer. It sort of feels like you can't decide on what to follow here, so parts of this section follow the vocals and parts follow the instrument, which doesn't appear as too consistent or clean. I'll just make you follow the synthesizer primarily for rhythm and the vocals for colour choice, if that is okay with you.
00:35:194 - Please add another k here to include the synthesizer.
00:36:056 - This doublet is not consistent, this is the only part at which it appears. I assume that you meant to follow the rising synthesizer sounds that appear in doubles, and that is fine, but you need to keep that consistent so that you don't make it look like you placed it there randomly. You have a couple of options for that, you can either add notes at 00:38:815 - and 00:41:573 - or you can increase the density generally by emphasizing this rising sound more often, for example at 00:36:573 - and 00:36:746 - by simply adding two ks. I'd do this for every part of the section once (i.e. 00:39:332 - , 00:42:091 -, excluding the last one; please keep the vocals in mind when placing colours).
00:56:056 - You can add a don here if you want.
01:00:884 - This rhythm right here is slightly free-style. However, it'll be fine if you just add a k at 01:00:711 - .
01:06:401 - A don would fit really nicely here.
This is just a suggestion, but have you considered starting your sliders on 01:54:160 - and 01:55:539 - , placing a note at 01:56:918 - ? You know, downbeats and stuff just like in standard.
02:02:436 - to 02:03:470 - generally kind of lacks emphasis, I'd use a different pattern altogether. Consider using, starting at 02:02:436 - : k d k k d k d d. This pattern stops at 02:03:642 - , and is snapped on 1/2s. Furthermore, if you get rid of 02:03:815 - , you can make 02:04:160 - a finisher. This makes sense due to the delayed high note climax.
02:13:125 - I'd add a don here to include the snare.
02:14:332 - a kat at this position not only increases the emphasis of 02:14:849 - , but also fits in nicely in terms of density due to the previous two doublets. If you change this, please add a d at 02:18:815 - as well.
And that'll be it! Good luck!
danke ehrenmann!! all changed unless the ones wrote something to 8)Zetera wrote:
Sorry Vulkin, I assume I didn't make things clear enough. The mod went in a different direction than my intention, so I thought I had better not post anything.
Anyways, since the futsuu is actually in need of a buff, I'll do my best to arrange that.
So, let's talk spread first. The Muzu is substantially harder than the Futsuu, to a point at which correlations between Kantan and Futsuu are visible, but not between Muzu and Futsuu. Ideally, you'd want there to be an even spread between the two. The main characteristics that make the Muzu hard are triplets/quintuplets snapped on 1/4 and longer patterns. We ave limited options for the Futsuu, but we can try to apply some of those traits to that diff as well.
In order to do so, let's first work on emphasis. When I look at the breaks spread throughout the Futsuu, I get the impression that they are just there, without a proper sense of balance or consistency. This makes the parts that do not have breaks look a bit off.
00:27:953 - Consider deleting this note as t provides a consistent break pattern with 00:25:194 - . Starting to emphasize that extra note at 00:30:711 - is perfectly fine since the music is becoming more intense as we move through this part of the song.
01:03:125 - this note should definitely be isolated. There should not be a note 1/1 later, since it takes away the emphasis of the previous note. gotta ask you something here when i see you online
01:20:367 - You could technically get rid of this note as well, just to increase the emphasis on 01:19:677 - .
02:03:815 - This note also lacks emphasis due to 02:04:160 - being so close.
02:25:194 - I wish this was a don finisher to make a little bit of a difference in terms of emphasis. You used d k k three times out of four, so using this pattern at the end doesn't add anything, even though the music gets a lot more tragic towards the end there. a kat finisher also does the job.
You can keep all existing breaks, if they don't happen to be modded out by the following bits.
00:13:125 - Please add a don here, as you were following the bass synthesizer.
Please add dons at 00:17:780 - and 00:23:298 - to keep it consistent with the current don doubles.
00:32:780 - I wish there was a kat here, just to emphasize the synthesizer. It sort of feels like you can't decide on what to follow here, so parts of this section follow the vocals and parts follow the instrument, which doesn't appear as too consistent or clean. I'll just make you follow the synthesizer primarily for rhythm and the vocals for colour choice, if that is okay with you.
00:35:194 - Please add another k here to include the synthesizer.
00:36:056 - This doublet is not consistent, this is the only part at which it appears. I assume that you meant to follow the rising synthesizer sounds that appear in doubles, and that is fine, but you need to keep that consistent so that you don't make it look like you placed it there randomly. You have a couple of options for that, you can either add notes at 00:38:815 - and 00:41:573 - or you can increase the density generally by emphasizing this rising sound more often, for example at 00:36:573 - and 00:36:746 - by simply adding two ks. I'd do this for every part of the section once (i.e. 00:39:332 - , 00:42:091 -, excluding the last one; please keep the vocals in mind when placing colours).
00:56:056 - You can add a don here if you want.
01:00:884 - This rhythm right here is slightly free-style. However, it'll be fine if you just add a k at 01:00:711 - .
01:06:401 - A don would fit really nicely here.
This is just a suggestion, but have you considered starting your sliders on 01:54:160 - and 01:55:539 - , placing a note at 01:56:918 - ? You know, downbeats and stuff just like in standard. i kinda wanted the sliders to like follow the voice if u get what i mean
02:02:436 - to 02:03:470 - generally kind of lacks emphasis, I'd use a different pattern altogether. Consider using, starting at 02:02:436 - : k d k k d k d d. This pattern stops at 02:03:642 - , and is snapped on 1/2s. Furthermore, if you get rid of 02:03:815 - , you can make 02:04:160 - a finisher. This makes sense due to the delayed high note climax.
02:13:125 - I'd add a don here to include the snare.
02:14:332 - a kat at this position not only increases the emphasis of 02:14:849 - , but also fits in nicely in terms of density due to the previous two doublets. If you change this, please add a d at 02:18:815 - as well.
And that'll be it! Good luck!
https://puu.sh/zBNDP/a8b48268d9.osu
things are definitely looking a lot better, just a few picky things of mine i'd like to address before i rebubble-
(top is kantan, bottom futsuu) try either buffing the futsuu or nerfing the kantan at this spot since they're the exact same thing (my preference is to use 3/1 breaks in the kantan as oppose to the 2/1, like
this
then at the end here:
try using some more notes in the futsuu, i feel that the 4/1 rhythm is very underwhelming lol, i'd try this:
that's all
(top is kantan, bottom futsuu) try either buffing the futsuu or nerfing the kantan at this spot since they're the exact same thing (my preference is to use 3/1 breaks in the kantan as oppose to the 2/1, like
then at the end here:
try using some more notes in the futsuu, i feel that the 4/1 rhythm is very underwhelming lol, i'd try this:
that's all
okay let's reanimate this into the ranking process, shall we?
haha xd
:frog:
Quite sure the gap here is too big between lv 9 and lv 7. Let me give the comparison.
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In here you have pattern that's jump from ordinary chord pattern in lv.7, to suddenly dense handstream in lv.9, Really sure it's too big of a gap for players to adjust properly.
one way to adjust is to make pattern like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10536702 , where using 1/4 at some specific tempo that keeps the pattern consistent but as well as make the spread more balance.
Please do the same thing for 02:14:849 - too.
And for 01:20:022 - 01:20:711 - 01:22:091 - 01:22:780 - 01:23:470 - 01:28:298 - 01:28:987 - 01:30:367 - Really recommended you add 1 note for each of the line here, since it suddenly really empty while the MX do use 1/3 and suddenly even 1/6 in between.
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In here you have pattern that's jump from ordinary chord pattern in lv.7, to suddenly dense handstream in lv.9, Really sure it's too big of a gap for players to adjust properly.
one way to adjust is to make pattern like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10536702 , where using 1/4 at some specific tempo that keeps the pattern consistent but as well as make the spread more balance.
Please do the same thing for 02:14:849 - too.
And for 01:20:022 - 01:20:711 - 01:22:091 - 01:22:780 - 01:23:470 - 01:28:298 - 01:28:987 - 01:30:367 - Really recommended you add 1 note for each of the line here, since it suddenly really empty while the MX do use 1/3 and suddenly even 1/6 in between.
boi
Good suggestions, does a much better job of differentiating this section between Lv. 5 and Lv. 9. You might also want to add a note to 02:12:263 - 02:13:987 - 02:15:022 - 02:17:780 - in Lv. 7 to make the second half of the kiai more consistent, but if you prefer to keep these as breaks for the player, that's fine too.
Spread issues are pretty valid. Alternatively to adding 1/4 like Maxus suggested, you could change the 1/2 chords from hand - single - single - jump - hand to hand - jump - jump - jump - hand so the chord layering is pretty much the same as the upper diff but without the 1/4 in between.
also lul, I already told you in game but
also lul, I already told you in game but
Topic Starter
Maxus wrote:
Quite sure the gap here is too big between lv 9 and lv 7. Let me give the comparison.ok
ok
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In here you have pattern that's jump from ordinary chord pattern in lv.7, to suddenly dense handstream in lv.9, Really sure it's too big of a gap for players to adjust properly. ok
one way to adjust is to make pattern like http://osu.ppy.sh/ss/10536702 , where using 1/4 at some specific tempo that keeps the pattern consistent but as well as make the spread more balance.ok
Please do the same thing for 02:14:849 - too.ok
And for 01:20:022 - 01:20:711 - 01:22:091 - 01:22:780 - 01:23:470 - 01:28:298 - 01:28:987 - 01:30:367 - Really recommended you add 1 note for each of the line here, since it suddenly really empty while the MX do use 1/3 and suddenly even 1/6 in between.ok
Arzenvald wrote:
boi ok
Weber wrote:
Good suggestions, does a much better job of differentiating this section between Lv. 5 and Lv. 9. You might also want to add a note to 02:12:263 - 02:13:987 - 02:15:022 - 02:17:780 - in Lv. 7 to make the second half of the kiai more consistent, but if you prefer to keep these as breaks for the player, that's fine too.ok
okProtastic101 wrote:
Spread issues are pretty valid. Alternatively to adding 1/4 like Maxus suggested, you could change the 1/2 chords from hand - single - single - jump - hand to hand - jump - jump - jump - hand so the chord layering is pretty much the same as the upper diff but without the 1/4 in between.ok
also lul, I already told you in game but
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