Akiyama Uni - Broken Moon · forum

Regou

Joined July 2010

Regou 2017-12-24T07:34:27+00:00

Alexsander wrote:
[Regou's Extra]

01:07:299 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think this is a bit more confusing for maps of this style, you could change, but it is at your discretion. flow didn't change much here i suppose it would be fine ;p

pinataman wrote:
[Regou's Extra]

00:02:378 (1) – The slider velocity felt really slow. The speed of the motion strongly contrasts with faster parts like 00:05:073 (2,1,2,3) - , but the music doesn't feel this drastically different in intensity. i did that mainly because the latter part have higher pitch.

00:14:799 (2,3,4,1) – I'm not the target audience of this map since I don't play alternating maps at all, so I'm not the best at evaluating this (which is also why I don't think the above suggestion matters because honestly, what do I know). Here, switching to 1/3 rhythm might be super intuitive for your target audience, but to me, it's nice to have a little bit of a visual cue. I really just want to share something interesting in the Hana difficulty of this map https://osu.ppy.sh/b/271616. When the song goes into 1/3, there's a bit of a wiggle in the stream's shape, and that communicated the rhythm nicely. It felt like if I messed up on the rhythm, I was at fault for not seeing the wiggle and adapting to it. When it doesn't have that cue, it feels like “oh, I guess I didn't memorize every detail of the song, so I guess I'm dead.” Another kind of cue is to do a bunch of NC's which totally works too, but test it out and see if this would be a nice change. Added some NCs :3 wiggling sliders doesn't fit the style of this map imo.

Thanks!

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[Mahua]

702 posts

Joined November 2010

[Mahua] 2017-12-25T12:07:13+00:00

Alexsander wrote:
[Mahua's Insane]

General
you used 4 points on most sliders, I believe only 3 are enough to make the curve you did, you could review if 4 is really needed in most of them The old style always use 4-points sliders, I just try that.
00:06:128 (1,2,3) -does not flow well, I think that changing the curve of slider 1 and changing the 2 gets better something like:
(mine got ugly but it's just an example)
ok I fix
01:04:721 (2) - I did not understand the use of this slider reverse, you did not use anything like that in this kiai this pattern has a 1/4 string in the background. So Idk its ok.

pinataman wrote:
Hi. Here for M4M from your queue. Hope this helps!

[Mahua's Insane]

I'm not a fan of older sliders, but that's just taste.

00:04:253 (1) – This is just a little bit too low and looks odd. See how this is kind of clipping the bottom of the screen: http://puu.sh/yJ45n/c90c610df6.jpg
ok I fix
00:46:440 (5,1) – These sliders are very close visually which looked a bit odd/cramped. I liked the sliders at 00:52:534 (6,1) – more since there is a healthy amount of space between them.ok I fix
00:54:878 (1,4) –^ ^

01:23:003 (1,2,1) – Visiaul spacing between these guys could be more consistent ok fix

01:30:503 (1,2,3,4,5) – Cool pattern thx~

thank your all mods~

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2017-12-25T13:34:03+00:00

Alexsander wrote:
[General]
If you edited the song / cut it's clear that it ends at 01:46:440 - and some difficulties are mapped after that end, remove the notes after that end
This is ok
[Binguo's Easy]
All fixed for this

[Normal]

00:16:440 (3) - this slider could be more curved, it is more pleasant to see
I personally prefer this sort of slider here
00:28:628 (1) - Rotate that slider to +6 to improve appearance
seems fine..
?
[Plenilune]

From 8.7 to 9.7 is a bit strange, you could put 9.3 / 9.4 is at your discretion
9.6 instead
it's just that personal <3

pinataman wrote:
Hi. Here for M4M from your queue. Hope this helps!

[General]

The song has weird way of ending. The section of music at 01:47:378 – sounds like all the other parts of the song, so my natural reaction is to want to play this out. But then there aren't notes and so I feel like something is missing. There might be a way to edit the audio file to make it more clear that this is the end of the song by starting the fade out way earlier so that this note is fading out, or even cutting the song so the last note is at 01:46:440 – and having that be the end would make me feel like “oh yeah, that's the end of the song.”
I will get more opinions on this. It was cut by someone else(can't remember exactly who), but i like the fade away at current stage where the song starts to reduce volume after the timeline you pointed out. I think a sudden stop at 01:46:440 - will be too abrupt.

[Normal]

00:01:440 – There's some cool music here, and so it's possible to put a slider here to give some expression to that.
I want to map normal from a bit later
00:45:971 (2,3) – The end of (2) makes me go to the left, but the motion of the (3) makes me go to the right. This was a break in the flow, and it felt a little odd to me, though maybe that's just me.
kind of intentional here
00:53:940 (2,3,4,5,1) – These form a strange shape. It'd be a lot nicer if you can get the angles to all be the same across the shape like this: http://puu.sh/yJ3ks/4a35972b5c.jpg. This is really easy to do by using convert slider to stream using ½ rhythm.

Sorry I can't play the top two diffs at all. Rest of the mapset looks good. Good luck!

Thanks

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,248 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2017-12-30T07:42:37+00:00

hi

general - pls double check the timing, parts sound wrong (like for example, around 00:38:003 - the drums sound notably off)

normal -

00:45:971 (2,3) - kinda misleading in terms of visual distance vs. distance spacing, would 3 on the left of 2 so that the path is more clear. (or at least something obvious like 01:00:971 (2,3) - ) its only a normal after all.

akitoshi -

00:08:003 (1) - NC?
00:23:471 (2,3,4,5) - i get what youre doing here but the melody having a note on 00:23:706 and the subsequent blue tick and white tick vs. what's actually being mapped (the drums) ends up kinda feeling weird to me. Consider ignoring the drums here and following the melody, with a rhythm like this - https://puu.sh/yQEfM/681c40e230.jpg
00:38:823 - suggest mapping this note
00:50:424 (4,5) - a ctrl+g would let you map the melody better
01:15:503 (1) - this actually holds until the blue tick (which has an audible note), so consider extending it to 01:15:854 -

patamon -

00:43:042 - this has no meaninful noise, you can lower this reverse by 1 and it would follow the music better
00:52:065 (5) - why not two 1/4 sliders here instead, to follow the main instrument better? i think its better than this reverse slider. same for 01:07:065 (5) -

mahua -

my main issue with this map is that when the song picks up in intensity, the intensity of the map goes down. See this entire section here and compare it to the previous one; the rhythm is less dense and it overall is just less difficult. Just the slider / circle density, stuff like 00:45:971 - being ignored when it was mapped out earlier. etc. I think it would have made a lot more sense if what you mapped for the kiai you had instead mapped for the previous section, and vice versa.

00:01:440 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - shouldnt this be in groups of 4, not 5 then 3? kinda confused

00:07:065 (4,5,6) - this feels rly weird compared to the previous rhythm (compare to 00:06:128 (1,2,3) - because of the pauses it has. i think if you filled the rhythm out it would make more sense than having these 1/2 pauses

another issue i have with this diff is using similar spacing for both 1/2 and 1/4 gaps, making reading this pointlessly challenging. for example, see 00:33:315 (4,5,6) - this spacing and 00:32:378 (1,2,3) - this spacing; similar gaps visually but one is 1/2 and one is 1/4

other than those general points the diff itself is okay. I like the 4 point sliders. Just please reconsider how you mapped the intense part of the music as less dense and difficult than the less intense part of the music before it.

regou -

00:01:264 (1) - isn't this 1/8? not 1/6. assuming youre mapping the melody triplet thing there
00:23:940 (1,2,3,4,5) - something fun about this pattern is that you kinda have to snap your cursor to the right to land both of the 1/4 sliders, but for 00:53:940 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - that effect isnt there; maybe change 00:54:409 (1,2,3,4) - so that the triplets on top and the slider on the bottom, so you have a similar effect where you have to snap your cursor in the same direction to land both reverse sliders. I think it's more fun!
01:00:034 (1,1) - fix stack
01:07:299 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this seems really forced, relative to the rest of the map im not sure how the music justifies this weird shift in difficulty to this snappy clicking patern
01:26:753 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - cute gimmick but its largely underdeveloped and just comes across as hard to read since there's no real set up or development with it.

top diff -

00:14:799 (6) - you could just make these clickable tbh, esp at this difficulty level
00:22:534 (3,4) - fix stacking? looks messed up

aye

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2017-12-30T10:46:09+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
patamon -

00:43:042 - this has no meaninful noise, you can lower this reverse by 1 and it would follow the music better there are some drum sounds here, I think reverse slider is fine.
00:52:065 (5) - why not two 1/4 sliders here instead, to follow the main instrument better? i think its better than this reverse slider. same for 01:07:065 (5) - ok

Thanks for mod!

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Akitoshi

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Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-12-30T17:38:55+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
00:38:823 - suggest mapping this note intentionally made blank for giving space emphasis to 00:38:940 (1) -

others are fixed, thanks!

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[Mahua]

702 posts

Joined November 2010

[Mahua] 2017-12-31T07:55:46+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
hi

mahua -

my main issue with this map is that when the song picks up in intensity, the intensity of the map goes down. See this entire section here and compare it to the previous one; the rhythm is less dense and it overall is just less difficult. Just the slider / circle density, stuff like 00:45:971 - being ignored when it was mapped out earlier. etc. I think it would have made a lot more sense if what you mapped for the kiai you had instead mapped for the previous section, and vice versa. So i move kiai time to 01:24:878 - because idk this time is solo time. And like 00:45:971 - i change to 1/6 stream.

00:01:440 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - shouldnt this be in groups of 4, not 5 then 3? kinda confused idk this pattern sound like 00:02:026 - this time to change pitch. So i used 5.3 group.
00:07:065 (4,5,6) - this feels rly weird compared to the previous rhythm (compare to 00:06:128 (1,2,3) - because of the pauses it has. i think if you filled the rhythm out it would make more sense than having these 1/2 pauses 00:06:128 (1,2,3) is sound like this rhythm. but on 00:07:065 - the String sound heavy than previous. So 00:07:065 - and 01:44:565 - i used same way.

another issue i have with this diff is using similar spacing for both 1/2 and 1/4 gaps, making reading this pointlessly challenging. for example, see 00:33:315 (4,5,6) - this spacing and 00:32:378 (1,2,3) - this spacing; similar gaps visually but one is 1/2 and one is 1/4
Some tester try this pattern and they never break. maybe its Ok.
other than those general points the diff itself is okay. I like the 4 point sliders. Just please reconsider how you mapped the intense part of the music as less dense and difficult than the less intense part of the music before it.
thx for your mod
aye

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2017-12-31T10:47:08+00:00

Fixed normal

Top diff
1) I don't think 1/6 is nice here because it is the start of music(very calm). Reverse slider makes more sense imo
2) Fixed this

Waiting for regou now, also gonna check timing

Regou

1,916 posts

Joined July 2010

Regou 2018-01-01T14:43:13+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
hi

regou -

00:01:264 (1) - isn't this 1/8? not 1/6. assuming youre mapping the melody triplet thing there fixed!
00:23:940 (1,2,3,4,5) - something fun about this pattern is that you kinda have to snap your cursor to the right to land both of the 1/4 sliders, but for 00:53:940 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - that effect isnt there; maybe change 00:54:409 (1,2,3,4) - so that the triplets on top and the slider on the bottom, so you have a similar effect where you have to snap your cursor in the same direction to land both reverse sliders. I think it's more fun! fixed(?) i'm not sure if i am doing this right or not ;w;
01:00:034 (1,1) - fix stack fixed!
01:07:299 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this seems really forced, relative to the rest of the map im not sure how the music justifies this weird shift in difficulty to this snappy clicking patern ;; i really liked the star jump but whatever removed the jump
01:26:753 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - cute gimmick but its largely underdeveloped and just comes across as hard to read since there's no real set up or development with it. The whole map is already very difficult to read due to the ar players are supposed to be able to read this. With aid of approach circle and low bpm i guess this should be passable in first try.

aye

Thanks!

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Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,248 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2018-01-03T05:34:15+00:00

ok, i accept mahua's interpretation from his response, and the other responses are all satisfactory.

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2018-01-06T06:55:15+00:00

best diff has snapping problems

top
00:22:534 (3,4) - should try accounting for the stack better. like this isn't messed up because of autostacking, but it still looks like a mistake somehow lol. whatever you do there should probably relate to 00:37:065 (1,3,4) - as well
00:24:174 (1,1,2,3) - comboing would make more sense like http://puu.sh/yVjda/4aa2f2dfdb.jpg -- would have new combos on both strong sounds rather than uhh no pattern at all lol
00:49:253 (1) - should be a 3/4 slider like 01:04:253 (1) - and the stuff surrounding it. same music stuff f f f f f
01:30:971 (4) - priority should be on blue tick stuff here like http://puu.sh/yVjs7/534cfb6435.jpg or soemthing. weird to follow trumpet thing at 01:29:448 (1,2,3,4,5) - but not immediately after it

regou
00:49:253 (1,2,3,4) - 01:04:253 (1,2,3,4) - need to use the same snapping
01:25:815 (1) - like 98% sure this is supposed to be 1/4 later so players click on the trumpet thing like 01:25:229 (2,3,4) - 01:26:167 (2,3,4) -
01:42:573 (2,3,1) - managed the stack at 00:05:073 (2,1,2,3,1) - but not here

(((

mahau
00:39:878 (1,2) - i think spacing should be smaller, as it is after every long slider here 00:43:628 (1,2) - 00:47:378 (1,2) - 00:51:128 (1,2) - etc. you treated it like 1/2 when it's 1/4

normal
01:40:815 (1) - accidental extra nc

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2018-01-07T02:47:06+00:00

fixed all for top diff and normal

Regou

1,916 posts

Joined July 2010

Regou 2018-01-07T03:05:14+00:00

fixed everything!!

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[Mahua] 2018-01-09T13:41:45+00:00

pishifat wrote:
best diff has snapping problems

mahau
00:39:878 (1,2) - i think spacing should be smaller, as it is after every long slider here 00:43:628 (1,2) - 00:47:378 (1,2) - 00:51:128 (1,2) - etc. you treated it like 1/2 when it's 1/4 fixed.

thx for mod

sahuang

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sahuang 2018-01-09T13:50:19+00:00

All updated, thanks for checking!!

Izzywing

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Izzywing 2018-01-11T01:06:37+00:00

okay

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pishifat 2018-01-12T02:46:39+00:00

ds

sahuang

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sahuang 2018-01-12T07:20:20+00:00

thx!

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Kurai 2018-01-17T20:00:49+00:00

Hello, metadata check here

I tried looking around but I couldn't find any official reference saying the Romanised title should be the translation of "砕月". Therefore I believe the Romanised Title should be "Saigetsu"?
Also, when looking at the album's booklet, it looks like the artist should rather be "U2", not "Akiyama Uni". Even if they are aliases, you should not be using them interchangeably.

Here are the only references I could find
- http://up.kuraip.net/011750D546v3267 (retrieved from https://vgmdb.net/album/5813)
- http://tasofro.net/touhou/cd.html

Please, if you have any reference saying it should be "Akiyama Uni - Broken Moon", let me know so that I can approve this song's metadata and avoid disqualifying this set! My apologies for only checking the metadata 5-6 days after the qualification.

p.s. if it does get disqualified, please change the source to "東方萃夢想～ Immaterial and Missing Power."

sahuang

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sahuang 2018-01-17T23:35:18+00:00

ok i will check it tonight

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yf_bmp 2018-01-19T05:09:55+00:00

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