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[Mahua]

Joined November 2010

[Mahua] 2017-11-27T03:06:57+00:00

DavidEd wrote:
Mahua's Insane
missing kiai time ok I will fix
01:26:753 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3,4) - streams look handmade. preferably if you could map a slider and convert those into notes instead so it looks better emmmmm i think this part needn't slider to convert those and I have no idea to this part, sorry.

NeilPerry wrote:
Mahua's Insane:

00:01:440 (1,2,3,4,1,2,3,4) - that will give more sense and more logick https://puu.sh/yp8IL/521ee4bed3.jpg ok I will fix
00:04:253 (1) - up this on some pixels to avoid off-screen ok I will fix

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2017-12-01T13:36:07+00:00

Deleted = fixed
Blue = fixed

DavidEd wrote:
My part of the M4M
Plenilune
00:13:628 (1,3) - would look nice if both of these had the same angle by rotating 00:14:096 (3) - 10* clockwise fixed
00:19:956 - pretty loud beat that should be clickable
i personally feel slider end is fine here, but i will change if there are similar suggestions
00:26:753 (1,2,4) - blanket's off. same at 00:49:721 (2) - k
00:35:424 (5,6,7) - suprisingly large spacing when there are no significant sounds here. perhaps a 1/4 slider on 00:35:424 (5,6) - would do good? true
00:50:190 (1,2,3,4,5) - same as above. its spacings like these you should use on sounds like 01:38:940 (1,2,3,4,5) - when the sounds are noticable and intense. fixed
01:19:721 (3,4,5,6) - perhaps bending these like you've done previously would make the movement a bit more smooth? i feel this is fine, changed a little bit

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Good luck boys n' girls!

Thanks David

Avena wrote:
M4M~
Time to make you cry >:D

Plenilune
Due to the generous use of new combos, the HP Drain becomes extremely harsh and it's nearly impossible to recover from a miss. Please lower the HP Drain or lower the amount of new combos in the map.
HP6 is ok now
00:53:706 (2,3,1,2,3) - In this pattern the angles between most objects is very wide, which suggests a smooth and calm movement, but the sounds are strong and sharp. Due to this, the pattern can feel awkward due to the lack of sharp movements on such highly spaced circles. I suggest using back and forth style patterning or something else that feels more impactful to play.
This seems okay imo as the blunt angle is not that difficult to hit..also i want to make it more difficult than back and forth
00:57:105 (3,1) - The transition between these two notes is a little awkward. There is a linear movement towards the slider, but it changes direction and the shape of it doesn't suggest the linear movement. Something more circular than linear might work well, like this; https://osu.ppy.sh/ss/9109593
very good idea
01:12:221 (3,4,5,6) - This isn't perfectly straight, please use a straight slider and then convert it into a stream so it looks more sharp and clean. too nazi lol
01:25:932 (5) - I recommend turning this slider into 2 circles since both sounds have equal impact and nearly identical pitch.
prefer slider here for consistency. 2 circles is too hard

Thanks for super helpful mod

_DT3

1,403 posts

Joined October 2015

_DT3 2017-12-02T19:04:51+00:00

Hey, here for the M4M o/
I apologize for the super long delay, I had pretty tiring weeks and I lost my mod before so I was a bit demotivated :c

[General]

Add the GDers to tags?
Really small thing, but imo changing Pata-Mon's Hyper to Pata-Mon's Light Insane would be better because even if they mean the same thing, having the 'Insane' in the diff name would be appropriate because the diff has patterns matching an Insane quite well

[Binguo's Easy]

00:14:565 (2,3,4) - 00:29:565 (2,3) - Why not make rhythm consistent? Most of your other rhythms are pretty consistent too so I think it's best if the rhythm is the same here too
00:38:940 (5,6,1) - Just a suggestion, but what about making these in a straight line? Although I get that you mapped 00:38:940 (5,6) - with two circles to emphasize the cymbals, it feels very underwhelming because there are so many rhythms that are the same as these. Making them in a straight line would make them stand out more
01:38:940 (3) - I know there's nothing you could do about 00:01:440 (1) - being NC'd but maybe NC 01:38:940 (3) - too for consistency? It is strong enough to deserve one imo

[Normal]

00:09:409 (1) - Is the NC here really necessary? I know you wanted to emphasize the note but the stack is enough imo, a double NC could be confusing for players at this level too
00:20:190 (1) - Idk what intentions you had here but this NC seems accidental because it isn't consistent with the rest of your NC patterning, removing it doesn't have much impact too imo
00:35:190 (3) - Similar to the one above, this one hasn't got an NC on it although it seems to be the same musically as the one above.
Also, just something I noticed but you could easily notice that 00:19:253 (1,2,1) - is symmetrical but 00:34:253 (1,2,3) - wasn't. I don't think that this is fixable in the current state unless you move a lot around, was kinda sad not to see it being symmetrical
00:38:003 (1) - I noticed that this rhythm was inconsistent with 00:23:003 (1) - . It's probably there to be different from another as a lead-in to the kiai but if you listen closely at these two patterns (00:38:003 (1,2,3,4) - and 00:23:003 (1,2,3,4) - ) the only things that sound different are 00:23:706 (2,3,4) - and 00:38:706 (2,3,4) - which are mapped with identical rhythm. Personally, I would choose this rhythm to differentiate the two but up to you
00:53:940 (2,3,4,5) - Nazi, but could you make the angles look more similar? It look a bit wonky rn lol
01:11:284 (2,3) - Also Nazi but could you even out the distance between the slider tail of 01:11:284 (2) - to the repeat and head of 01:11:753 (3) - like 01:15:034 (2,3) - ?
01:38:940 (2,3,4) - Would have been nice to see the rhythm at the start again, but I get why you chose not to xd (just a suggestion btw)
01:45:503 (1) - Why not be consistent in rhythm as 00:08:003 (1) - ? Since they're the same musically it would make sense to represent them with the same rhythm

[Akitoshi's Hard]

Senpaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
00:39:878 (1) - 00:55:815 (3) - 01:02:378 (1) - Nazi, but maybe make these an edgy slider? In most instances of this pattern (00:43:628 (1,2,3,4) - 00:47:378 (1,2,3,4) - 00:58:628 (1,2) - ) there was at least one edgy slider, so.......
01:45:503 (1,2,3) - This is the only time where notes like these don't get emphasized by not following slider flow (e.g. 00:08:003 (5,6,7) - ), although it does stand out I think it's better to be consistent with this stuff
Nice \w/

Other diffs look fine, I think Plenlilune would feel better with AR 9.8 though since it seems like you were going for high AR (and Regou's Extra possibly with AR 8.5).
Again, sorry for the delay and GL!

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2017-12-18T14:07:24+00:00

NeilPerry wrote:
Hello. xd

ALL FIXED for top diff super thanks

Normal:

01:19:956 - sounds weird to miss unreasonable so strong sound
01:22:768 - same
following instruments here so imo its ok

Thanks

Underdogs wrote:
Sorry it took me a bit of time to mod

expect a short list of mod since i hardly found anything

Binguo's Easy
00:08:003 (3) - Maybe make this a bit more curvy? ok
00:15:034 (3,4) - It doesn't flow well, also didn't look symmetrical in contrary to 00:13:628 (1) - slider body. And personally, I don't think it's not a good idea.
00:20:190 (5,1) - I don't think these are mirrored well seems ok
01:08:003 (3,4) - Personally, I don't like how this shapes up. Firstly due to the aesthetic value given. In addition to how unintuitive this plays when ingame. did some changes

Normal
00:35:893 - I think you missed a beat here, it felt inconsistent imo i dont wanna make stream so long

The top diffs aren't really my forte. But i do think it looks pretty well.

Good luck sahuang.

Thanks mate

IntellectualBoy wrote:
Hi ~ You already come in the my map thread lol

so i'll check the your mapsets. The two mapseis is BN already modded

If you want mod, you will tell me this map i think

[Easy]

■ 00:04:253 (4,5,6,1) - At this point the flow of the pattern seems unnatural. Can you make the notes (5) and (6) more smoothly flow?
feels ok
■ 00:23:471 (4) - The slider end missing normal custom sound here. is it necessary?

Rest all fixed, thanks

[Normal]

■ 00:40:815 (3,4,5,1) - The flow at the slider end of (3) and the flow of notes (4) and (5) are not natural. You can make a better flow if you move the note (4) down and the note (5) up.
imo it is ok, quite linear flow

Good Luck

Thanks owo

_DT3 wrote:
Hey, here for the M4M o/
I apologize for the super long delay, I had pretty tiring weeks and I lost my mod before so I was a bit demotivated :c

[General]
Add the GDers to tags? ok
Really small thing, but imo changing Pata-Mon's Hyper to Pata-Mon's Light Insane would be better because even if they mean the same thing, having the 'Insane' in the diff name would be appropriate because the diff has patterns matching an Insane quite well
will let him decide
[Binguo's Easy]
00:14:565 (2,3,4) - 00:29:565 (2,3) - Why not make rhythm consistent? Most of your other rhythms are pretty consistent too so I think it's best if the rhythm is the same here too
seems not a big problem to me given that easy diff is just spamming 1/2 1/1s.
00:38:940 (5,6,1) - Just a suggestion, but what about making these in a straight line? Although I get that you mapped 00:38:940 (5,6) - with two circles to emphasize the cymbals, it feels very underwhelming because there are so many rhythms that are the same as these. Making them in a straight line would make them stand out more
changed the curve of previous slider instead
[Normal]
01:38:940 (2,3,4) - Would have been nice to see the rhythm at the start again, but I get why you chose not to xd (just a suggestion btw)
This seems ok :>
rest all fixed, super helpful mod to me

Other diffs look fine, I think Plenlilune would feel better with AR 9.8 though since it seems like you were going for high AR (and Regou's Extra possibly with AR 8.5).

changed to 9.7

Again, sorry for the delay and GL!

Thanks everyone, deleted = fixed

Last edited by sahuang 2017-12-24T04:09:30+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Alexsander

1,081 posts

Joined November 2016

Alexsander 2017-12-18T16:03:12+00:00

[General]

If you edited the song / cut it's clear that it ends at 01:46:440 - and some difficulties are mapped after that end, remove the notes after that end

[Binguo's Easy]

00:17:378 (1,2) - Circle 2 could be more differentiated since the slider is curved, you could put a little more to the side would look better.
00:22:534 (3,4) - blanket can be improved.
00:25:815 (1,2) - This could be aligned would look better visually like this:
00:29:565 (2) - Should have 2 circle instead of the slider like you did in 00:22:066 (2,3) - and 00:18:315 (2,3) - to be consistent

01:08:003 (3) - this slider does not look good, you could change to something like:

[Normal]

00:16:440 (3) - this slider could be more curved, it is more pleasant to see
00:28:628 (1) - Rotate that slider to +6 to improve appearance
00:35:190 (3) - could copy the previous slider (00: 34: 253 (1) -) I believe it looks better than what you did
00:42:690 (3,2) - you can avoid this overlap by placing the slider(00:44:096 (2) - ) up
00:53:940 (2,3,4,5) - Do not you find it a bit difficult for a normal difficulty?

[Akitoshi's Hard]

00:35:190 (3) - it would be nice to copy the same slider used in 00:34:253 (1) - since it is kind of in parallel with the slider of the same(00:34:253 (1) - )

[Pata-Mon's Hyper]

00:04:253 (1) - this slider got ugly, you could change it =/

[Mahua's Insane]

General

you used 4 points on most sliders, I believe only 3 are enough to make the curve you did, you could review if 4 is really needed in most of them
00:06:128 (1,2,3) -does not flow well, I think that changing the curve of slider 1 and changing the 2 gets better something like:
(mine got ugly but it's just an example)
01:04:721 (2) - I did not understand the use of this slider reverse, you did not use anything like that in this kiai

[Regou's Extra]

01:07:299 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think this is a bit more confusing for maps of this style, you could change, but it is at your discretion.

[Plenilune]

From 8.7 to 9.7 is a bit strange, you could put 9.3 / 9.4 is at your discretion

it's just that personal <3

Last edited by Alexsander 2017-12-18T16:47:49+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Grrum

886 posts

Joined November 2011

Grrum 2017-12-18T16:07:04+00:00

Hi. Here for M4M from your queue. Hope this helps!

[General]

The song has weird way of ending. The section of music at 01:47:378 – sounds like all the other parts of the song, so my natural reaction is to want to play this out. But then there aren't notes and so I feel like something is missing. There might be a way to edit the audio file to make it more clear that this is the end of the song by starting the fade out way earlier so that this note is fading out, or even cutting the song so the last note is at 01:46:440 – and having that be the end would make me feel like “oh yeah, that's the end of the song.”

[Binguo's Easy]

00:34:253 (4,5) – It would look nicer if these were the same slider curve and had symmetry to them: http://puu.sh/yJ2PM/4c2953cd22.jpg .

00:49:721 (4,5,1) – (5) felt a little jerky because it doesn't follow the slider movement. In the music, the (5) note didn't feel that special to warrant a special flow, which is why I like the more comfortable flow like this: http://puu.sh/yJ2KL/3a2c69080d.png

01:01:440 (5) – clap hitsound on the tail feels random and out of place

[Normal]

00:01:440 – There's some cool music here, and so it's possible to put a slider here to give some expression to that.

00:42:690 (3,2) – This overlap looks ugly. Rotate (2) to avoid this

00:45:503 (1,2) – Looked odd how curvy these two sliders were. A curvature more like 00:40:815 (3) – would look nicer. If you are trying to emphasize these two sliders with a different shape, I think a red anchor might be a nice option.

00:45:971 (2,3) – The end of (2) makes me go to the left, but the motion of the (3) makes me go to the right. This was a break in the flow, and it felt a little odd to me, though maybe that's just me.

00:53:940 (2,3,4,5,1) – These form a strange shape. It'd be a lot nicer if you can get the angles to all be the same across the shape like this: http://puu.sh/yJ3ks/4a35972b5c.jpg. This is really easy to do by using convert slider to stream using ½ rhythm.

01:01:909 (3) – clap hitsound sounds random and out of place

01:35:190 (3) – This 1/1 slider feels long. The music is doing something kind of interesting at 01:35:424 - , and so I would have liked some expression there like you did for the ½ notes at 01:33:315 (2,3) - . The idea I had was to make 01:35:190 (3) – a ½ reverse slider, but you think of something that might address this slowness issue.

[Akitoshi's Hard]

00:01:440 – There's some cool music here, and so it's possible to put a slider here to give some expression to that.

01:39:409 (6) – There are a few other reverse sliders like this, but I'll mention this one as the best example. Knowing that this has multiple repeats is a bit tricky, so consider making it only have one repeat so the Hard player has enough recovery time on this tricky rhythm to get the next note.

[Pata-mon's Hyper]

00:51:128 (1) – This is low on the screen. Moving it up a little bit would look nicer since it wouldn't be so cramped down at the bottom.

01:32:846 (3,4,5) – and 01:36:128 (1,2,3) – This is a cool section of music. I felt like holding reverse sliders was too weak of an expression of this. You have expected the player to be comfortable with tricky rhythms like 01:27:456 (3,4,5) – and also longer streams like 00:05:659 (5,6,7,8,1) - , so I feel as if I'm being underestimated and babied around at 01:32:846 (3,4,5) – . Find and test ways to make this section more engaging rhythmically.

01:46:440 (1,1) – Not sure if this is fixable, but the slider ends are bugged and not stacking right.

[Mahua's Insane]

I'm not a fan of older sliders, but that's just taste.

00:04:253 (1) – This is just a little bit too low and looks odd. See how this is kind of clipping the bottom of the screen: http://puu.sh/yJ45n/c90c610df6.jpg

00:46:440 (5,1) – These sliders are very close visually which looked a bit odd/cramped. I liked the sliders at 00:52:534 (6,1) – more since there is a healthy amount of space between them.
00:54:878 (1,4) –^

01:23:003 (1,2,1) – Visiaul spacing between these guys could be more consistent

01:30:503 (1,2,3,4,5) – Cool pattern

[Regou's Extra]

00:02:378 (1) – The slider velocity felt really slow. The speed of the motion strongly contrasts with faster parts like 00:05:073 (2,1,2,3) - , but the music doesn't feel this drastically different in intensity.

00:14:799 (2,3,4,1) – I'm not the target audience of this map since I don't play alternating maps at all, so I'm not the best at evaluating this (which is also why I don't think the above suggestion matters because honestly, what do I know). Here, switching to 1/3 rhythm might be super intuitive for your target audience, but to me, it's nice to have a little bit of a visual cue. I really just want to share something interesting in the Hana difficulty of this map https://osu.ppy.sh/b/271616. When the song goes into 1/3, there's a bit of a wiggle in the stream's shape, and that communicated the rhythm nicely. It felt like if I messed up on the rhythm, I was at fault for not seeing the wiggle and adapting to it. When it doesn't have that cue, it feels like “oh, I guess I didn't memorize every detail of the song, so I guess I'm dead.” Another kind of cue is to do a bunch of NC's which totally works too, but test it out and see if this would be a nice change.

[Plenilune]

I'm not the target audience of this map since I don't play alternating maps at all

Sorry I can't play the top two diffs at all. Rest of the mapset looks good. Good luck!

Akitoshi

2,684 posts

Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-12-24T06:10:47+00:00

reply

_DT3 wrote:
[Akitoshi's Hard]
Senpaiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii uwu
00:39:878 (1) - 00:55:815 (3) - 01:02:378 (1) - Nazi, but maybe make these an edgy slider? In most instances of this pattern (00:43:628 (1,2,3,4) - 00:47:378 (1,2,3,4) - 00:58:628 (1,2) - ) there was at least one edgy slider, so....... ok
01:45:503 (1,2,3) - This is the only time where notes like these don't get emphasized by not following slider flow (e.g. 00:08:003 (5,6,7) - ), although it does stand out I think it's better to be consistent with this stuff i dont get it but i think i made it consistent ??
Nice \w/

Alexsander wrote:
[Akitoshi's Hard]

00:35:190 (3) - it would be nice to copy the same slider used in 00:34:253 (1) - since it is kind of in parallel with the slider of the same(00:34:253 (1) - ) pitch changes

pinataman wrote:
[Akitoshi's Hard]

00:01:440 – There's some cool music here, and so it's possible to put a slider here to give some expression to that. added sth

01:39:409 (6) – There are a few other reverse sliders like this, but I'll mention this one as the best example. Knowing that this has multiple repeats is a bit tricky, so consider making it only have one repeat so the Hard player has enough recovery time on this tricky rhythm to get the next note. bpm is low enough and i think they can read this already ;d

thanks !

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Last edited by Akitoshi 2017-12-24T06:15:30+00:00, edited 1 time in total.

Pata-Mon

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Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2017-12-24T06:12:52+00:00

@Alexsander hmm I think it's fine

pinataman wrote:
[Pata-mon's Hyper]

00:51:128 (1) – This is low on the screen. Moving it up a little bit would look nicer since it wouldn't be so cramped down at the bottom. k

01:32:846 (3,4,5) – and 01:36:128 (1,2,3) – This is a cool section of music. I felt like holding reverse sliders was too weak of an expression of this. You have expected the player to be comfortable with tricky rhythms like 01:27:456 (3,4,5) – and also longer streams like 00:05:659 (5,6,7,8,1) - , so I feel as if I'm being underestimated and babied around at 01:32:846 (3,4,5) – . Find and test ways to make this section more engaging rhythmically. I think the music in this section is soft than before, so I want to use some simple rhythm.

01:46:440 (1,1) – Not sure if this is fixable, but the slider ends are bugged and not stacking right. k

Thanks for mods!

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edit: 好像你复制音效复制我这难度了……因为有些地方节奏跟得不同，这难度音效是我自己下的来着，改成正确版本了，复制音效时候别忘了跳过我的难度哈……

Regou

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Alexsander wrote:
[Regou's Extra]

01:07:299 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - I think this is a bit more confusing for maps of this style, you could change, but it is at your discretion. flow didn't change much here i suppose it would be fine ;p

pinataman wrote:
[Regou's Extra]

00:02:378 (1) – The slider velocity felt really slow. The speed of the motion strongly contrasts with faster parts like 00:05:073 (2,1,2,3) - , but the music doesn't feel this drastically different in intensity. i did that mainly because the latter part have higher pitch.

00:14:799 (2,3,4,1) – I'm not the target audience of this map since I don't play alternating maps at all, so I'm not the best at evaluating this (which is also why I don't think the above suggestion matters because honestly, what do I know). Here, switching to 1/3 rhythm might be super intuitive for your target audience, but to me, it's nice to have a little bit of a visual cue. I really just want to share something interesting in the Hana difficulty of this map https://osu.ppy.sh/b/271616. When the song goes into 1/3, there's a bit of a wiggle in the stream's shape, and that communicated the rhythm nicely. It felt like if I messed up on the rhythm, I was at fault for not seeing the wiggle and adapting to it. When it doesn't have that cue, it feels like “oh, I guess I didn't memorize every detail of the song, so I guess I'm dead.” Another kind of cue is to do a bunch of NC's which totally works too, but test it out and see if this would be a nice change. Added some NCs :3 wiggling sliders doesn't fit the style of this map imo.

Thanks!

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[Mahua]

702 posts

Joined November 2010

[Mahua] 2017-12-25T12:07:13+00:00

Alexsander wrote:
[Mahua's Insane]

General
you used 4 points on most sliders, I believe only 3 are enough to make the curve you did, you could review if 4 is really needed in most of them The old style always use 4-points sliders, I just try that.
00:06:128 (1,2,3) -does not flow well, I think that changing the curve of slider 1 and changing the 2 gets better something like:
(mine got ugly but it's just an example)
ok I fix
01:04:721 (2) - I did not understand the use of this slider reverse, you did not use anything like that in this kiai this pattern has a 1/4 string in the background. So Idk its ok.

pinataman wrote:
Hi. Here for M4M from your queue. Hope this helps!

[Mahua's Insane]

I'm not a fan of older sliders, but that's just taste.

00:04:253 (1) – This is just a little bit too low and looks odd. See how this is kind of clipping the bottom of the screen: http://puu.sh/yJ45n/c90c610df6.jpg
ok I fix
00:46:440 (5,1) – These sliders are very close visually which looked a bit odd/cramped. I liked the sliders at 00:52:534 (6,1) – more since there is a healthy amount of space between them.ok I fix
00:54:878 (1,4) –^ ^

01:23:003 (1,2,1) – Visiaul spacing between these guys could be more consistent ok fix

01:30:503 (1,2,3,4,5) – Cool pattern thx~

thank your all mods~

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2017-12-25T13:34:03+00:00

Alexsander wrote:
[General]
If you edited the song / cut it's clear that it ends at 01:46:440 - and some difficulties are mapped after that end, remove the notes after that end
This is ok
[Binguo's Easy]
All fixed for this

[Normal]

00:16:440 (3) - this slider could be more curved, it is more pleasant to see
I personally prefer this sort of slider here
00:28:628 (1) - Rotate that slider to +6 to improve appearance
seems fine..
?
[Plenilune]

From 8.7 to 9.7 is a bit strange, you could put 9.3 / 9.4 is at your discretion
9.6 instead
it's just that personal <3

pinataman wrote:
Hi. Here for M4M from your queue. Hope this helps!

[General]

The song has weird way of ending. The section of music at 01:47:378 – sounds like all the other parts of the song, so my natural reaction is to want to play this out. But then there aren't notes and so I feel like something is missing. There might be a way to edit the audio file to make it more clear that this is the end of the song by starting the fade out way earlier so that this note is fading out, or even cutting the song so the last note is at 01:46:440 – and having that be the end would make me feel like “oh yeah, that's the end of the song.”
I will get more opinions on this. It was cut by someone else(can't remember exactly who), but i like the fade away at current stage where the song starts to reduce volume after the timeline you pointed out. I think a sudden stop at 01:46:440 - will be too abrupt.

[Normal]

00:01:440 – There's some cool music here, and so it's possible to put a slider here to give some expression to that.
I want to map normal from a bit later
00:45:971 (2,3) – The end of (2) makes me go to the left, but the motion of the (3) makes me go to the right. This was a break in the flow, and it felt a little odd to me, though maybe that's just me.
kind of intentional here
00:53:940 (2,3,4,5,1) – These form a strange shape. It'd be a lot nicer if you can get the angles to all be the same across the shape like this: http://puu.sh/yJ3ks/4a35972b5c.jpg. This is really easy to do by using convert slider to stream using ½ rhythm.

Sorry I can't play the top two diffs at all. Rest of the mapset looks good. Good luck!

Thanks

Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,248 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2017-12-30T07:42:37+00:00

hi

general - pls double check the timing, parts sound wrong (like for example, around 00:38:003 - the drums sound notably off)

normal -

00:45:971 (2,3) - kinda misleading in terms of visual distance vs. distance spacing, would 3 on the left of 2 so that the path is more clear. (or at least something obvious like 01:00:971 (2,3) - ) its only a normal after all.

akitoshi -

00:08:003 (1) - NC?
00:23:471 (2,3,4,5) - i get what youre doing here but the melody having a note on 00:23:706 and the subsequent blue tick and white tick vs. what's actually being mapped (the drums) ends up kinda feeling weird to me. Consider ignoring the drums here and following the melody, with a rhythm like this - https://puu.sh/yQEfM/681c40e230.jpg
00:38:823 - suggest mapping this note
00:50:424 (4,5) - a ctrl+g would let you map the melody better
01:15:503 (1) - this actually holds until the blue tick (which has an audible note), so consider extending it to 01:15:854 -

patamon -

00:43:042 - this has no meaninful noise, you can lower this reverse by 1 and it would follow the music better
00:52:065 (5) - why not two 1/4 sliders here instead, to follow the main instrument better? i think its better than this reverse slider. same for 01:07:065 (5) -

mahua -

my main issue with this map is that when the song picks up in intensity, the intensity of the map goes down. See this entire section here and compare it to the previous one; the rhythm is less dense and it overall is just less difficult. Just the slider / circle density, stuff like 00:45:971 - being ignored when it was mapped out earlier. etc. I think it would have made a lot more sense if what you mapped for the kiai you had instead mapped for the previous section, and vice versa.

00:01:440 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - shouldnt this be in groups of 4, not 5 then 3? kinda confused

00:07:065 (4,5,6) - this feels rly weird compared to the previous rhythm (compare to 00:06:128 (1,2,3) - because of the pauses it has. i think if you filled the rhythm out it would make more sense than having these 1/2 pauses

another issue i have with this diff is using similar spacing for both 1/2 and 1/4 gaps, making reading this pointlessly challenging. for example, see 00:33:315 (4,5,6) - this spacing and 00:32:378 (1,2,3) - this spacing; similar gaps visually but one is 1/2 and one is 1/4

other than those general points the diff itself is okay. I like the 4 point sliders. Just please reconsider how you mapped the intense part of the music as less dense and difficult than the less intense part of the music before it.

regou -

00:01:264 (1) - isn't this 1/8? not 1/6. assuming youre mapping the melody triplet thing there
00:23:940 (1,2,3,4,5) - something fun about this pattern is that you kinda have to snap your cursor to the right to land both of the 1/4 sliders, but for 00:53:940 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - that effect isnt there; maybe change 00:54:409 (1,2,3,4) - so that the triplets on top and the slider on the bottom, so you have a similar effect where you have to snap your cursor in the same direction to land both reverse sliders. I think it's more fun!
01:00:034 (1,1) - fix stack
01:07:299 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this seems really forced, relative to the rest of the map im not sure how the music justifies this weird shift in difficulty to this snappy clicking patern
01:26:753 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - cute gimmick but its largely underdeveloped and just comes across as hard to read since there's no real set up or development with it.

top diff -

00:14:799 (6) - you could just make these clickable tbh, esp at this difficulty level
00:22:534 (3,4) - fix stacking? looks messed up

aye

Pata-Mon

1,489 posts

Joined March 2015

Pata-Mon 2017-12-30T10:46:09+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
patamon -

00:43:042 - this has no meaninful noise, you can lower this reverse by 1 and it would follow the music better there are some drum sounds here, I think reverse slider is fine.
00:52:065 (5) - why not two 1/4 sliders here instead, to follow the main instrument better? i think its better than this reverse slider. same for 01:07:065 (5) - ok

Thanks for mod!

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Akitoshi

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Joined August 2014

Akitoshi 2017-12-30T17:38:55+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
00:38:823 - suggest mapping this note intentionally made blank for giving space emphasis to 00:38:940 (1) -

others are fixed, thanks!

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[Mahua]

702 posts

Joined November 2010

[Mahua] 2017-12-31T07:55:46+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
hi

mahua -

my main issue with this map is that when the song picks up in intensity, the intensity of the map goes down. See this entire section here and compare it to the previous one; the rhythm is less dense and it overall is just less difficult. Just the slider / circle density, stuff like 00:45:971 - being ignored when it was mapped out earlier. etc. I think it would have made a lot more sense if what you mapped for the kiai you had instead mapped for the previous section, and vice versa. So i move kiai time to 01:24:878 - because idk this time is solo time. And like 00:45:971 - i change to 1/6 stream.

00:01:440 (1,2,3,4,5,1,2,3) - shouldnt this be in groups of 4, not 5 then 3? kinda confused idk this pattern sound like 00:02:026 - this time to change pitch. So i used 5.3 group.
00:07:065 (4,5,6) - this feels rly weird compared to the previous rhythm (compare to 00:06:128 (1,2,3) - because of the pauses it has. i think if you filled the rhythm out it would make more sense than having these 1/2 pauses 00:06:128 (1,2,3) is sound like this rhythm. but on 00:07:065 - the String sound heavy than previous. So 00:07:065 - and 01:44:565 - i used same way.

another issue i have with this diff is using similar spacing for both 1/2 and 1/4 gaps, making reading this pointlessly challenging. for example, see 00:33:315 (4,5,6) - this spacing and 00:32:378 (1,2,3) - this spacing; similar gaps visually but one is 1/2 and one is 1/4
Some tester try this pattern and they never break. maybe its Ok.
other than those general points the diff itself is okay. I like the 4 point sliders. Just please reconsider how you mapped the intense part of the music as less dense and difficult than the less intense part of the music before it.
thx for your mod
aye

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2017-12-31T10:47:08+00:00

Fixed normal

Top diff
1) I don't think 1/6 is nice here because it is the start of music(very calm). Reverse slider makes more sense imo
2) Fixed this

Waiting for regou now, also gonna check timing

Regou

1,916 posts

Joined July 2010

Regou 2018-01-01T14:43:13+00:00

Hobbes2 wrote:
hi

regou -

00:01:264 (1) - isn't this 1/8? not 1/6. assuming youre mapping the melody triplet thing there fixed!
00:23:940 (1,2,3,4,5) - something fun about this pattern is that you kinda have to snap your cursor to the right to land both of the 1/4 sliders, but for 00:53:940 (1,2,3,1,2,3,4) - that effect isnt there; maybe change 00:54:409 (1,2,3,4) - so that the triplets on top and the slider on the bottom, so you have a similar effect where you have to snap your cursor in the same direction to land both reverse sliders. I think it's more fun! fixed(?) i'm not sure if i am doing this right or not ;w;
01:00:034 (1,1) - fix stack fixed!
01:07:299 (1,2,3,4,5,6) - this seems really forced, relative to the rest of the map im not sure how the music justifies this weird shift in difficulty to this snappy clicking patern ;; i really liked the star jump but whatever removed the jump
01:26:753 (1,2,1,2,3,4,1,2) - cute gimmick but its largely underdeveloped and just comes across as hard to read since there's no real set up or development with it. The whole map is already very difficult to read due to the ar players are supposed to be able to read this. With aid of approach circle and low bpm i guess this should be passable in first try.

aye

Thanks!

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Izzywing

osu! Alumni

2,248 posts

Joined March 2016

Izzywing 2018-01-03T05:34:15+00:00

ok, i accept mahua's interpretation from his response, and the other responses are all satisfactory.

pishifat

osu! Paragon

3,802 posts

Joined August 2013

pishifat 2018-01-06T06:55:15+00:00

best diff has snapping problems

top
00:22:534 (3,4) - should try accounting for the stack better. like this isn't messed up because of autostacking, but it still looks like a mistake somehow lol. whatever you do there should probably relate to 00:37:065 (1,3,4) - as well
00:24:174 (1,1,2,3) - comboing would make more sense like http://puu.sh/yVjda/4aa2f2dfdb.jpg -- would have new combos on both strong sounds rather than uhh no pattern at all lol
00:49:253 (1) - should be a 3/4 slider like 01:04:253 (1) - and the stuff surrounding it. same music stuff f f f f f
01:30:971 (4) - priority should be on blue tick stuff here like http://puu.sh/yVjs7/534cfb6435.jpg or soemthing. weird to follow trumpet thing at 01:29:448 (1,2,3,4,5) - but not immediately after it

regou
00:49:253 (1,2,3,4) - 01:04:253 (1,2,3,4) - need to use the same snapping
01:25:815 (1) - like 98% sure this is supposed to be 1/4 later so players click on the trumpet thing like 01:25:229 (2,3,4) - 01:26:167 (2,3,4) -
01:42:573 (2,3,1) - managed the stack at 00:05:073 (2,1,2,3,1) - but not here

(((

mahau
00:39:878 (1,2) - i think spacing should be smaller, as it is after every long slider here 00:43:628 (1,2) - 00:47:378 (1,2) - 00:51:128 (1,2) - etc. you treated it like 1/2 when it's 1/4

normal
01:40:815 (1) - accidental extra nc

sahuang

2,293 posts

Joined December 2014

Topic Starter

sahuang 2018-01-07T02:47:06+00:00

fixed all for top diff and normal

Regou

1,916 posts

Joined July 2010

Regou 2018-01-07T03:05:14+00:00

fixed everything!!

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[Mahua]

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[Mahua] 2018-01-09T13:41:45+00:00

pishifat wrote:
best diff has snapping problems

mahau
00:39:878 (1,2) - i think spacing should be smaller, as it is after every long slider here 00:43:628 (1,2) - 00:47:378 (1,2) - 00:51:128 (1,2) - etc. you treated it like 1/2 when it's 1/4 fixed.

thx for mod

sahuang

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sahuang 2018-01-09T13:50:19+00:00

All updated, thanks for checking!!

Izzywing

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Izzywing 2018-01-11T01:06:37+00:00

okay

pishifat

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pishifat 2018-01-12T02:46:39+00:00

ds

sahuang

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sahuang 2018-01-12T07:20:20+00:00

thx!

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Kurai 2018-01-17T20:00:49+00:00

Hello, metadata check here

I tried looking around but I couldn't find any official reference saying the Romanised title should be the translation of "砕月". Therefore I believe the Romanised Title should be "Saigetsu"?
Also, when looking at the album's booklet, it looks like the artist should rather be "U2", not "Akiyama Uni". Even if they are aliases, you should not be using them interchangeably.

Here are the only references I could find
- http://up.kuraip.net/011750D546v3267 (retrieved from https://vgmdb.net/album/5813)
- http://tasofro.net/touhou/cd.html

Please, if you have any reference saying it should be "Akiyama Uni - Broken Moon", let me know so that I can approve this song's metadata and avoid disqualifying this set! My apologies for only checking the metadata 5-6 days after the qualification.

p.s. if it does get disqualified, please change the source to "東方萃夢想～ Immaterial and Missing Power."

sahuang

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sahuang 2018-01-17T23:35:18+00:00

ok i will check it tonight

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yf_bmp 2018-01-19T05:09:55+00:00

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