Kbludoh wrote:

Hello! Modding the Oni difficulty, since I'm not very familiar with the lower difficulties.

00:15:424 (71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80) - Some slight variance is recommended here. Nothing drastic, but just to keep your player engaged a little more. Doing the variation only in the 3rd does not take away the feeling of repetition the map gives. This applies to most places where you copy/pasted stuff. ja tentei de todas as maneiras e desmaneiras que tem de nn deixar repetitivo, então sei la oq fazer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

01:15:424 (343,344,345,346,347,348,349,350,351,352,353,354) - I think changing the pattern here would sound a bit better. KKKKDDDDKKKK perhaps? nn, que coisa absurda

01:28:845 (422,423,424,425,426,427,428,429) - This is mostly something you'd find in an Inner Oni, not in Oni. Change to something simpler. No hand swaps on Oni. (Except on patterns such as KDDKD and DKKDK.) arrumei, agora eu consigo fazer FC xd

01:41:477 (493,494,495,496,497,498,499,500,501) - This is mostly something you'd find in an Inner Oni, not in Oni. Change to something simpler. No hand swaps on Oni. (Except on patterns such as KDDKD and DKKDK.) ^

01:46:016 (517,518,519,520,521,522,523) - Too long and hand swaps. Not fit for Oni. ss

01:47:595 (528,529,530,531,532,533,534) - ^ ^

01:49:174 (539,540,541,542,543,544,545) - ^ ^

Those are the most glaring things I've found. vlw ai c:

Karee Pan wrote:

Hey there From my queue.
You have a pretty unique style of mapping i tried to keep my mod clean enough to not nerf the structure too much. i will cry ;-;

[Kantan]
00:41:279 (49) - These single upbeat notes seem very sudden and tough for Kantan, You could consider deleting (49) and moving 00:42:858 (52) - to 00:43:450 ok
00:50:161 (61) - And i would just repeat ^ here (00:49:371 - could still be a note though) ^
01:13:056 (89) - We could delete this and switch 01:13:845 (91) - to D to map the big cymbals instead. ok
01:51:148 (54) - Again a bit sudden, maybe just move to 01:51:345 ok


[Futsuu]
00:16:608 (35,36,37,38) - Would just go with the same kdkd instead this switch might be confusing in Futsuu fixed

This was a fun diff. >///<

[Muzukashii]
00:37:135 (138) - Seems unnecessary i prefer keep
00:52:727 (205,219) - Since we follow the vocal so strong we could just delete these ok
01:31:213 (352) - I liked how you let the longer vocal notes ride with a break after them and would continue it here by Moving this to 01:31:213 (352) ok
01:32:595 - Could add note here then too ok


[Oni]
00:06:740 (19) - You could consider deleting this, Feels the piano sound is kinda irrelevant compared to keeping following the intro melody. good
00:14:240 (64,73,82) - would just make these k's as well like in the next set. used
00:36:345 (152,154) - These are too much to my ear yeah xD
00:39:306 (162,163) - (163) Is the only snare here not mapped with a k, so i would just Crtl-g these. ok

Some extra stuff for your consideration

Sorry for these bigger suggestions, just something to take into consideration
Please note that this being a fairly low BPM 3.6* Oni, some of the patterns are making big difficulty spikes in it. To me these feel a bit out of place with the rest of the song. (These patterns are fine as they are but they are just tough)
01:15:424 - A 12 note kdkdkdkdkdkd is hard, you could go soemthing like d_kdk_kdkdkd for example.
01:28:845 - dkkdkkddk also rough for this. At least (429) should be deleted cause of the Finisher coming up.
01:41:477 - Here as well, very tough pattern. (500) at least before the Finisher should go. Both of these 9s could also be done as simple as xxxxx_x_X
01:46:213 (514,525,536) - These also questionable to me difficulty wise.
fixed all

Good song, nice mapset! Good luck! thanks c:

sing216 wrote:

Late for mod, i feel lazy. (:3 _)=

Muzukashii

I think this mod is subjective, it depends on you.

1. 00:10:983 (30) - delete
   This note sounds should not be put here ok
2. 00:12:266 (36) - delete and 00:13:056 - add (d / 1/4 dd) here
   no note sounds strange here, also take a break after the big note better. used
3. 00:13:845 - ~ 00:18:187 - ok
   Should be able to make more changes because muzukashii, e.g change like this? :
4. 00:44:635 (139) - change to d and 00:44:832 (140) - move to 00:44:733 -
   More similar to Oni, and continues to follow the drum's voice hmm...
5. 00:47:398 (150) - change to k ok
6. 00:56:279 - add k? ok
7. 01:06:148 - ^ ^
   
8. 01:26:279 - add d ok
9. 01:27:858 - add d and 01:27:266 (284,291) - delete
   It sounds more like this better good
10. 01:44:635 - add d ok
11. 01:45:819 (339,340,341,342,343,344,345) -
    These pattern looks good, but actually here you can follow the music more clearly,
    e.g 01:46:213 (342) - move to 01:46:312 - and
    01:46:510 (343) - move to 01:46:411 (343) - :o
    (I think this mod is subjective, it depends on you.)
    
12. ^if you take my advice, 01:47:398 (347,348,349,350,351,352,353,354,355,356,357,358) - here you should make the same change

Oni

1. 00:07:529 - ~ 00:12:463 -
   i think here the note is suddenly too much, because it is in start part and not kiai. 00:07:825 (24,34,44) - My advice is delete these notes, or you decide to delete feeling better for you. :o
2. 00:12:266 (49) - delete? ok
3. 00:19:371 (88) - delete and 00:19:470 (89) - change to d ,add a small break yes
   
4. 01:17:891 - add d and 01:19:470 - add k
   Kiai many 1/2 note but it will feel unnatural sounds bad and i like these 1/2 notes, but i will try put 1/4 too
5. ^You can choose to delete 01:20:062 (367) - this note if you take my advice
6. 01:23:516 (384,392) - delete and 01:26:280 (401) - change to d
   The difficulty increases suddenly here, because continuous big note or 1/4 it's to be sudden and hard
   
7. 01:28:056 (412) - delete ok
8. 01:28:845 (417,418,419,420,421,422,423) - change to dkkkdkd?
   Everyone's feeling is different, so this just what you think i think dkkkdkd it's a bit hard
   
9. 01:30:523 - and 01:32:299 - add d
   Will be almost the same change with the beginning kiai used
   
10. 01:33:681 - add d and 01:34:865 - add k used
11. 01:36:148 (456,460,464,468) - delete and 01:38:812 - add d no
12. 01:44:635 (498,499) - change to k sound better? okay... >.>

Song is so cute and has a charming melody. you are cute and have a charming melody >///<
Good luck!!

Tyistiana wrote:

And finally, I'm flee free from the project. Sorry for the late. ;;w;; at least you modded :3

[ Overall]
01:45:424 - Seems like this part is not a kiai. It's looks like outro more than kiai. Like 00:13:845 as an intro. :thonking:

[ Kantan]
00:50:950 - Seems too blank here. How about add a note here? To make the note dense here not too far away from Futsuu. O.o
01:43:845 - The slide is not on any 1/4 1/6 or 1/8. Make this slider snap to 1/4 like 00:12:463 will be better. probably it happened when the SV bugged, but this doesn't affect the gameplay. I will fix to avoid future mentions

[ Futsuu]
00:20:161 - Change to K , to make it consist to the other difficulty. And it fit to the pitch better imo. ok
00:45:424 - In Futsuu have used D here but while the others difficulty used K. To change this point as K on Futsuu will make a consistence to the other difficulty. :o
01:39:108 - Forget to add a finisher here? Even Kantan have used a finisher here. ok
01:44:635 - Unsnapped slider. bugs grrr

[ Muzukashii]
00:20:161 - Change to K , to make it consist to the other difficulty. And it fit to the pitch better imo. yeah
00:35:753 - Change to d , to make it distinguish from 00:35:358 (100,101) since the pitch have a different tone. ok
00:37:727 - Add d here will fit the pitch better. A 1/2 note after finisher note isn't that hard for Muzukashii. it's only to make different from other diffs
01:23:319 - Did you forget to add a finisher here. To add it, it will consist to 01:23:911 (268,270,272,274) yeah
01:32:792 - A pitch here isn't strong enough to use finisher imo. '^'
01:35:161 moves to 01:34:963 - It will follow the vocal better. god
01:35:950 - Just like 01:23:319 ^

[ Oni]
It's already good from my sight~ :3 :3

Adorable song and nice mapset! Good luck! thanks ><

Essey6 wrote:

heyoo, nm!

kantan is very good! i couldn't find any problems C:

Muzukashii

01:45:819 (338,339) - you have this at the end but at the beginning it's 00:14:240 (41,42) -
any particular reason why or? it's a bit hard to explain but let's go '^'. i made the first session with more distant notes because sounds more calm and better and the last session with 1/4 because is a session more dense

again, very good difficulty

Oni

00:02:200 (5) - don because it's a lower pitch? and for other notes like this no D:
00:14:240 (59,61) - kat? and for other notes like these, for a bit of consistency with what you did at the end of the song sounds repetitive with the second part of the first session (makes sense?) and it's the same conceit from the diff muzukashii

no complaints from me, a very fun and well made difficulty

i'm sorry this wasn't very helpful :') GL with rank! at least you tried c: thanks for mod :3

1. 00:20:161 and 00:13:845 - A bit weird about the pattern. In 00:20:161 you started the strong melody with 3 notes consecutive. But in 00:13:845 You started with only 1 note. I think they should be identical because they have the same melody. Consider a remap here.
2. 00:46:016 - Move this note to 00:46:213 because it would make players confusing and it doesn't stick to the melody either. Do it occasionally but not too much.
3. 00:49:963: Move to 00:50:161 - Like I was mentioned above
4. 00:51:740 to 01:02:792 - As you can see, you have made this part is boring, you have used too much 2/1 spaces, make some variations, you didn't make variations at the right point.
5. 01:04:371: Same as above

1. 00:26:477: You could increase the density more here. It's just a bit different.
2. Great diff now

1. 00:43:845 - I think this is a remapped pattern, followed by the RC, it should not be longer than 5 notes when you are using 1/4 space in Muzukashii,
   You could remove these notes (e.g - 00:44:437 and 00:45:227
2. 00:49:569 - Move this note to 00:50:161 and then remove this 00:50:358 I think it's better imo because the currently pattern isn't follow the vocal.
3. 01:02:990 - Same as 00:43:845

1. 00:39:010 - Imo you should add this note here because I heard the drum sound. It's still rankable when you but a 1/4 note next to the Finish notes.
2. 01:15:917 - Same as above

davidminh0111 wrote:

Hola, from my queue: "hola" '^'
A bit late sorry:

[Kantan]

1. 00:20:161 and 00:13:845 - A bit weird about the pattern. In 00:20:161 you started the strong melody with 3 notes consecutive. But in 00:13:845 You started with only 1 note. I think they should be identical because they have the same melody. Consider a remap here. yeah
2. 00:46:016 - Move this note to 00:46:213 because it would make players confusing and it doesn't stick to the melody either. Do it occasionally but not too much. used
3. 00:49:963: Move to 00:50:161 - Like I was mentioned above ^
4. 00:51:740 to 01:02:792 - As you can see, you have made this part is boring, you have used too much 2/1 spaces, make some variations, you didn't make variations at the right point. ok
5. 01:04:371: Same as above ^
   
   [Futsuu]
   
   1. 00:26:477: You could increase the density more here. It's just a bit different. but the density here is different in all diffs
   [Muzukashii]
   
   [Oni]
   

Mod later soon because fuk my battery it's okay xd. thanks for mod :3

davidminh0111 wrote:

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:43:845 - I think this is a remapped pattern, followed by the RC, it should not be longer than 5 notes when you are using 1/4 space in Muzukashii,
   You could remove these notes (e.g - 00:44:437 and 00:45:227 used
2. 00:49:569 - Move this note to 00:50:161 and then remove this 00:50:358 I think it's better imo because the currently pattern isn't follow the vocal. no, if i change here i will need to change here 01:02:398 (193,194,195,196,197) - too
3. 01:02:990 - Same as 00:43:845 ?

[Oni]

1. 00:39:010 - Imo you should add this note here because I heard the drum sound. It's still rankable when you but a 1/4 note next to the Finish notes. meh, sounds weird
2. 01:15:917 - Same as above i don't want long 1/4 streams

(´・ω・｀) (´・ω・｀)

[R] wrote:

gratz

davidminh0111 wrote:

Hello Igor, I have some concerns about the tags in the metadata.

davidminh0111 wrote:

>Metadata is from alacat but since alacat's map tag have iyasine but your map has iyasine either. Iyasine is the GD name of someone else.

davidminh0111 wrote:

> I don't know that Lopkyy Produções created this music but it seems that I can't find it. But in my opinion, this song's genre is J-Pop and I don't think that company is Japanese.

davidminh0111 wrote:

Conclusion: Imo I don't know if this one needs for disqualification but it seems like the metadata is wrong.

maybe , in my view is all okay now, but feel free to try dq my map

Igor Sprite wrote:

mappers put some "random" things in tags like rsi in this map, but yeah it's related indirectly, some players have rsi playing this map and if don't the metadata is wrong(?). iyasine helped alacat to rank your mapset and now is helping me indirectly since i got bpm, offset, bg, audio, artist and title why not all the tags?

Igor Sprite wrote:

oh, here is lopkyy and he helps me a lot. it's only lopkyy produções as your request >///<

Wafu wrote:

I think this needs to be disqualified for putting irrelevant people into metadata (and it seems like without consent).

"irrelevant people" uh, you really don't choose your words right?. fixed artist and bye iyasine. i will keep the lopkyy , he is relevant to me and my mapset

Kisses wrote:

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Igor Sprite wrote:

iyasine helped alacat to rank your mapset and now is helping me indirectly since i got bpm, offset, bg, audio, artist and title why not all the tags?

Kisses wrote:

but a way to help search for mappers that were involved in said mapsets (at least I'm 98% sure lol)

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Disqualified so you can remove any irrelevant tags. Wafu also pointed out issues regarding general metadata so you need to address them as well.

Igor Sprite wrote:

Wafu wrote:

I think this needs to be disqualified for putting irrelevant people into metadata (and it seems like without consent).

"irrelevant people" uh, you really don't choose your words right?. fixed artist and bye iyasine. i will keep the lopkyy , he is relevant to me and my mapset

Igor Sprite wrote:

Kisses wrote:

but a way to help search for mappers that were involved in said mapsets (at least I'm 98% sure lol)

this solve the problem with lopkyy in tags

davidminh0111 wrote:

See? >√<.
1st time disqualifing a map

Igor Sprite wrote:

davidminh0111 wrote:

See? >√<.
1st time disqualifing a map

D:

i will not remove lopkyy from tags. that is all

Kisses wrote:

well you won't be able to get it re-qualified then I'm afraid

Igor Sprite wrote:

Kisses wrote:

but a way to help search for mappers that were involved in said mapsets (at least I'm 98% sure lol)

this solve the problem with lopkyy in tags

Wafu wrote:

What problem does it solve? Giving you a general advice (essentially a mod) doesn't mean what Kisses said.

Igor Sprite wrote:

as kisses said tags is for help search and if you write lopkyy, you will find 5 maps that lopkyy helped me and writing igor sprite you will find many others without lopkyy in tags

Kisses wrote:

3) were part of a collab

Igor Sprite wrote:

i don't know if is required put collab when a mapper that helped you making a diff does not want
if yes, please show me and i will remove lopkyy from tags

Ranking Criteria wrote:

The information of multiple mapset contributors must be provided in the mapset, if there is any guest mapper. This might be in the creator's words, via a storyboard or via naming the guest difficulties appropriately. You only need to provide information of guest mapper and corresponding guest part. Guest mappers must be added to the tags of a mapset. This helps others to know if the map uploader is the main contributor of the mapset and who else contributed to the given mapset.

Wafu wrote:

Igor Sprite wrote:

i don't know if is required put collab when a mapper that helped you making a diff does not want
if yes, please show me and i will remove lopkyy from tags

Ranking Criteria wrote:

The information of multiple mapset contributors must be provided in the mapset, if there is any guest mapper. This might be in the creator's words, via a storyboard or via naming the guest difficulties appropriately. You only need to provide information of guest mapper and corresponding guest part. Guest mappers must be added to the tags of a mapset. This helps others to know if the map uploader is the main contributor of the mapset and who else contributed to the given mapset.

i will give his correct credit just wait
Also, gave the map a quick glance. Looks relatively okay, could use some improvement, but the only thing I really want to mention is 01:35:950 (308) - in Muzukashii not having a finish here. It's inconsistent with the exact same part, and with other difficulties. fixed

Additionally, the background image doesn't seem related to the song or band in any way. The standards are changing, you can't just copy everything from the older map and hope it's correct. It would be nice if you would find some Silent Siren related image instead. The mp3 could be better too, I don't understand why to go for the lowest quality allowed (if you want help with that without having to change the offset, PM me on forums let's map a eletronic song, ANIME GIRL.jpg. see this map she ins't waking up D: .oh another "nonsense" BG

Wafu wrote:

Additionally, the background image doesn't seem related to the song or band in any way. The standards are changing, you can't just copy everything from the older map and hope it's correct. It would be nice if you would find some Silent Siren related image instead. The mp3 could be better too, I don't understand why to go for the lowest quality allowed (if you want help with that without having to change the offset, PM me on forums)

Igor Sprite wrote:

let's map a eletronic song, ANIME GIRL.jpg. see this map she ins't waking up D: .oh another "nonsense" BG

Surono wrote:

wow its time to stop put memes in the serious thing such ranking map, its for offical content for this game right ? lol

1 thing for oni, 01:42:661 - change this sv to 0.90x to avoid 01:42:266 - this note 01:42:661 - blocked in the right screen, yeah just to make it neat the slowdown of sv alteration. yeah just minor

I dont find something wrong with BG, it fits well with the atmosphere of the song and yeah the song just tell about love and https://puu.sh/yO8Bz/409b90208a.png from the mapper told me, well

Sinnoh wrote:

bg is fine, tags are not

Sinnoh wrote:

bg is fine, tags are not

Naotoshi wrote:

Oh please, this is moronic. Will you go and pop every random map with an anime background? A background is nothing more than something to identify the map by and something the mapper thinks fits. Yes obvious this guy is rather lazy, not even bothering to write his own tags. Regardless, popping the map because he uses a background you don't find suitable is ludicrous.

Igor Sprite wrote:

wtf is happening with my map? ;-;

Wafu wrote:

Elaborate how the background is fine, using "atmosphere" as "it fits" doesn't seem very competent.

Surono wrote:

I dont know but let other people giving more opinions about this and to determine it. as I thought, so it should be using artist, the album cover, or screenshot of the video clip from this song as bg? whats happening really

Ataraxia wrote:

So, say why don't competent, i see all the text but i just found some vague assumptions and random words, u are sayng that are a problem here, but u don't ever show any example of how mapper can fix that, u just pop and "go find other"

If you see the lyrics, how BG u think that fits with the song, any example ?, if u just wanted to "say", u just pop because u want, not because there's a real problem in BG

1. Background is not relevant to the band
2. Background is not relevant to the song
3. Background is not relevant to the lyrics or the theme of the song

1. (1) Use a background directly related to the song
2. (2) If none good exists, use a background that is related to the band
3. (3) If none good exists, use an image from random source that is thematically relevant
4. (4) Last resort, if none of above exist, choose a completely random background because that means any relevance can't be satisfied (usually will apply only to non-thematic instrumentals)

Surono wrote:

Rebubbled

Sinnoh wrote:

bg is fine, tags are not

idk but up to you guys

<Surono> " lopkyy " do you really want it on tags?
<Igor_Sprite> yes
<Igor_Sprite> it's very very important to me
<Surono> did he mapped at least 50% of your map?
<Surono> or just some?
<Surono> if yes, change muzukashii as collab muzukashii and you can keep that name on tags
<Surono> if no, yeah just delete.. or those people will, yeah in the description is enough. on tags zz idk
<Igor_Sprite> yes, he helped me since the begin of my ranking process
<Surono> hmm
<Surono> just muzukashii right?
<Igor_Sprite> but it's right with ranking criteria
<Igor_Sprite> muzukashii and oni
<Surono> "collab" on diffnaming or just standard diffnaming doesnt matter if you already put statment in the descreption.
<Igor_Sprite> but i already fixed according the ranking criteria
<Surono> nice
<Igor_Sprite> mapper name in tags and informations in descripition

Net0 wrote:

"You should never follow ranked maps to justify errors in qualified or pending maps." Errors should be justified by rules. Errors cannot be justified by an uneven treatmeant of mapsets.

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

In this case, we should go back to address the cause of disqualification i.e. removal of irrelevant tags and fixing metadata issue. If Lopkyy is just a modder that helped the mapset, it would be better not to include their name in tags.

Kisses wrote:

Net0 wrote:

"You should never follow ranked maps to justify errors in qualified or pending maps." Errors should be justified by rules. Errors cannot be justified by an uneven treatmeant of mapsets.

Can you just stop. PLEASE!

Wafu wrote:

Only text bellow is really important

From now on, I would like if this discussion could continue by addressing only the issues brought up. My concern again is:

1. Background is not relevant to the band Agree.
2. Background is not relevant to the song Disagree. Even though you've said "using "atmosphere" as "it fits" doesn't seem very competent", I couldn't agree less. I think this is a very important aspect of choosing a background, no matter what - because the song is the main actor in a map.
3. Background is not relevant to the lyrics or the theme of the song Can't judge at this point.

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Well, it is time to step in as the discussion is going nowhere as it seems.

About the current BG choice, I think it somewhat fits the song. Relevance of BGs is in fact a relative concept. As we all know in the common practice, certain degree of freedom is allowed in choosing background images for a map to show some connections with the song, be it the lyrics, theme or overall atmosphere. Unless it goes completely unrelated to the song (in this case, say an image of a skull for example), limiting BG choices for songs that are sung by a band with reality images is just too strict and out of the scope of current mapping context.

In this case, we should go back to address the cause of disqualification i.e. removal of irrelevant tags and fixing metadata issue. If Lopkyy is just a modder that helped the mapset, it would be better not to include their name in tags.

1. (1) Use a background directly related to the song You can choose any frame of the clip, you can use any image featuring the song
2. (2) If none good exists, use a background that is related to the band You can use any image relevant to the band
3. (3) If none good exists, use an image from random source that is thematically relevant You can use any image that has one (yes, even just one) major feature in common

Wafu wrote:

Anyway, that's all I'm willing to say about the background. But @Igor Sprite could say a word to it too, I don't feel like I deserve being ignored completely on this one by the mapper themselves.

Wafu wrote:

@Irreversible, the veto was not only because of the background. The discussion about tags was not finished and my suggestion about the background was entirely ignored. It must had been addressed by the mapper in order to be eligible for a bubble in the first place. I admit I should've stated all the reasons for a veto, I thought it was pretty obvious that the discussion was still happening. My apologies.

Okoratu wrote:

Dude wafu wtf - the amount of braincells we waste arguing about this.

something fitting the song's mood is so relative and majority seems to be against making a huge deal about this, i'm more concerned about Surono trying to end any discussion by just nominating the goddamn map right in the middle of it.

Case in point: For most people seems suitable enough, especially since it is original artwork without relation to anything else so here have the bg in a not shit-resolution (yay):

https://puu.sh/yOjzt/e7a6240d6e.jpg

Nifty wrote:

I don't know about the title/artist, but it sounds to me like igor needs to just remove lopkyy from the tags or add him to the diff names.

In the description it says "but didn't changed these name diffs as your request" which is the downfall of language barriers, and I would like igor to try to rephrase this to make some sort of sense.

The way I read it, it sounds like someone told you to not put lopkyy's name in the difficulties he helped map, which is just incorrect, but I didn't find one person in this thread who's told you that. This leads me to assume that lopkyy themselves told you to not put their name on the diffs (perhaps to not take credit or whatever), and that's also wrong and kind of breaking the rules, since you have to put whoever is involved with mapping the diff in the name.

Ranking Criteria wrote:

The information of multiple mapset contributors must be provided in the mapset, if there is any guest mapper. This might be in the creator's words, via a storyboard or via naming the guest difficulties appropriately. You only need to provide information of guest mapper and corresponding guest part. Guest mappers must be added to the tags of a mapset. This helps others to know if the map uploader is the main contributor of the mapset and who else contributed to the given mapset.

Kisses wrote:

Well your words turned from him helping you with some patterns to flat out collabing with you lol

Igor Sprite wrote:

Kisses wrote:

Well your words turned from him helping you with some patterns to flat out collabing with you lol

sorry net0 ins't here now say "he put notes in editor and sent me a file with .osu format" have relation with "he did a GD diff for me" no?

osuskrub wrote:

okay, did he map an entire diff? or did he map part of one and you finished the rest?

if it's the first one you should add his name to what difficulty he did.
if it's the second one you can add a combination of your names or write "collab [diff name]" and possibly indicate in the map description who mapped which parts

Wafu wrote:

If lopkyy really did make a collab with you, sure, add lopkyy in tags. But he didn't post anything here (and has played 12 minutes of taiko overall)

Kisses wrote:

Wafu wrote:

If lopkyy really did make a collab with you, sure, add lopkyy in tags. But he didn't post anything here (and has played 12 minutes of taiko overall)

Lol well this is interesting

Sinnoh wrote:

Stop twisting what Wafu said about irrelevant. The context he used it in was that the tag was not related to the set because Wafu assumed lopkyy did not map anything, not because lopkyy is irrelevant as a person.

Wafu wrote:

If lopkyy really did make a collab with you, sure, add lopkyy in tags. But he didn't post anything here (and has played 12 minutes of taiko overall), can we get some clarification from lopkyy? We need to know if he really participated to know if he truly can be in tags.

1. 00:26:181 (127) - add don here? It flows well imo and would still keep the melody you were following from earlier
2. 00:28:056 (131,135,137,141,143,147) - The finishes on these notes feel unnecessary. There doesn't feel a need to create so much emphasis when the song doesn't give it any. I'm not sure if it's your style but it does feel incredibly forced and plays a lot smoother when deleting the finishes
3. 00:38:121 (152) - Listening to the drums surely a don would fit here better right? It would also give more emphasis to the final kat 00:38:319 (153) -
4. 00:51:740 - For this section how about deleting notes like 00:53:319 (235) - 00:56:477 (250) - ? The long sequences doesn't really make me feel like I'm playing to a calmer part of the song and the long sequences don't work well with low SV
5. 01:16:312 (342) - Personally I think this plays much better as a kat
6. 01:23:121 (377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384,385,386,387,388,389,390,391,392,393,394,395,396,397,398,399,400,401) - Looking at the spread between Futsuu > Muzu > Oni , the pattern you used here makes the spread really skewed
7. 01:46:115 (509) - 01:47:694 (519) - 01:49:273 (529) - I'm surprised you didn't have these notes as dons to play more closely to your patterns at the beginning of the map

-Sh1n1- wrote:

dunno why this guy makes the map more complicated
@Igor: Lopkyy in description is more than enough if you really want to show gratitude, do you really want to rank the map? just remove and everything should be ready to go.

I just want to proceed with the requalification of the map and avoid the useless drama about BGs and tags, I hope this post will start a new discussion about the map itself and not irrelevant things.

General

1. 01:15:424 - there are some things I wanna point out here:
   
   Click me~~

   kantan and Futsuu: Spinner until 01:16:608 -
   Muzukashii: Slider until 01:16:510 -
   Oni: stream until 01:16:510 -
   My suggestion here is map this part with notes:
   
   Click me~~

   Kantan: 01:15:424 - 01:15:819 - 01:16:213 - everything as k
   Futsuu: 01:15:424 - 01:15:621 - 01:15:819 - 01:16:213 - everything as k and then 01:16:608 - as d
   Muzukashii: 01:15:424 - 01:15:621 - 01:15:720 - 01:15:819 - as k, 01:16:016 - as d, 01:16:213 - 01:16:411 - as k and 01:16:608 - as d
   Oni: 01:16:608 - add a note here, it's true that drums are not prominent until here but voice is strong enough to deserve a note imo, also to match with my previous suggestions of additions on the other diffs. you are only saying to remap
2. Same thing with 01:28:746 (34) - Futsuu and 01:28:845 (285) - Muzukashii, they should be mapped imo, also why they start in a different place? @-@

Kantan

1. 01:13:056 - add k here, this part feels too empty, current gap with higuer diffs is too long. ok
2. 01:14:635 - I'll suggest you to add a note here too, d could be the best possible. yeah
3. 01:43:845 (42) - to avoid a repetitive pattern cause you have triplets in 1/1 at the next section I wanna recommend you to remove such object and add 01:43:845 - d and k at 01:44:635 - no

Futsuu

1. 00:12:069 - you miss a finish note here. yeah
2. 01:05:161 (151,152,153,154) - this part doesn't match with 01:08:319 (159,160,161,162,163,164,165,166) -, dunno what are you following tbh, a possible solution to fix the current inconsistent between both sections also between all difficulties is moving 01:05:358 (152) - to 01:05:753 -, then 01:09:306 - to 01:08:911 - and 01:09:503 (162) - to 01:09:108 - i don't want change the structure here
3. 01:11:871 (168,169) - this is kinda unconfortable for a newcommer imo and also for the sake of spread, I'll recommend you to move 01:11:871 (168) - to 01:11:674 - okay
4. 01:23:121 - remove this note, you have more notes at this section than Muzukashii that is weird, also gap with katan is huge. again this (i'm looking Oni --> Kantan) see what i wrote in muzukashii
5. 01:35:753 - remove pls, same as above ^
6. kinda unfair that you have something to hit at 01:44:733 -01:44:832 - 01:44:931 - while Muzu is empty, I strongly recommend you to remove 01:44:437 - and then change 01:44:635 (75) - into d d k at 1/2. what it's the problem with my sliders? you only said remove all and change to... why i can't keep all change nothing ;-;

Muzukashii

1. 00:48:977 (149,150,151,152,153) - dunno why your rhythm choice is different than Futsuu, I recommend you to move 00:49:569 - to 00:49:174 - to keep consistency with your futsuu and to add more vocal enphasis to 00:49:766 (152,153) - i want keep the enphasis here 00:48:977 -
2. 00:50:950 (157) - this is kinda controversial for me, less enphasis to 00:51:740 - that deserve to be finisher (D), there should be a triplet at 00:50:950 -, also if you wanna add a slider here, why didn't you do the same at lower diffs?, remove slider and put notes imo. doesn't have triplets in my muzukashii @-@, and i put a slider because i want a transition less "agressive" to this calm part 00:52:135 -
3. 00:53:911 (165) - move to 00:54:503 - to keep the same rhythm base as lower diffulties, kinda weird that the same mapper is following another sounds on the same song. it's a bit weird you say "the same mapper" when i call this a collab '^'
4. 01:23:121 - add a note here to fix spread. i did the same thing here 01:35:753 -
5. 01:26:477 - missing finisher here. yeah
6. 01:35:753 - a note here will add more balance to the spread, dunno why futsuu has more notes here. as you can see, in futsuu doesn't have these notes 01:36:345 (309,311,313,315) - and in muzukashii doesn't have this note 01:35:753 (308) - so it's really to balance
7. 01:41:477 (325) - it will be better as notes, trust me, what do you think about 01:41:477 - k, 01:41:674 - 01:41:773 - 01:41:871 - 01:42:069 - d and 01:42:266 - K i want keep my sliders
8. 01:44:437 - remove cause adding more enphasis to drums it's important at this part, changing from 5-plet (Oni) into 1/2 transition (Muzukashii is too much imo), that's why I also wanna suggest you to add d at 01:44:733 - and 01:44:832 - i don't want triplets and i did the same thing here 00:12:463 -

Oni

1. 01:28:056 - what hapenned here? are you skipping this sound on purpose? cause other diffs are following this sound with notes. yes,
   maybe only my imagination,but i think a note here it's weird
2. 01:54:898 - you miss a finish here to keep consistency with your previous patterns. i think the sound here is a bit low, because this i didn't put note here 01:55:983 - too

That's all from my side, I hope it could be re-qualified soon, it's a great map!, good luck and remove Lopkyy from tags, don't be stubborn or you won't receive more help.

Kisses wrote:

@Sh1n1 I think the finish at 01:54:898 was intentionally skipped in the oni diff because of the fact the mp3 fades out good good xd

Oni

1. 00:26:181 (127) - add don here? It flows well imo and would still keep the melody you were following from earlier wait... here
2. 00:28:056 (131,135,137,141,143,147) - The finishes on these notes feel unnecessary. There doesn't feel a need to create so much emphasis when the song doesn't give it any. I'm not sure if it's your style but it does feel incredibly forced and plays a lot smoother when deleting the finishes again talking about change the structure of certain session
3. 00:38:121 (152) - Listening to the drums surely a don would fit here better right? It would also give more emphasis to the final kat 00:38:319 (153) - my intention here is low to high, a don here break this
4. 00:51:740 - For this section how about deleting notes like 00:53:319 (235) - 00:56:477 (250) - ? The long sequences doesn't really make me feel like I'm playing to a calmer part of the song and the long sequences don't work well with low SV it's a bit hard keep the 1/2 rhythm with slow SV
   when you starts play oni. it's intentional, don't worry
5. 01:16:312 (342) - Personally I think this plays much better as a kat too hard
6. 01:23:121 (377,378,379,380,381,382,383,384,385,386,387,388,389,390,391,392,393,394,395,396,397,398,399,400,401) - Looking at the spread between Futsuu > Muzu > Oni , the pattern you used here makes the spread really skewed it's your opinion, a problem or something else? .-.
7. 01:46:115 (509) - 01:47:694 (519) - 01:49:273 (529) - I'm surprised you didn't have these notes as dons to play more closely to your patterns at the beginning of the map ^

[]I just wanted to test my modding skills ~ back to std yeah, it's really nice when we are trying to improve

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Lopkyy in description is more than enough if you really want to show gratitude, do you really want to rank the map? just remove and everything should be ready to go.

Poii wrote:

if he only put 1 or 2 notes in your diff, its not a collab dude, at least tell me which part that he made ?

Surono wrote:

-Sh1n1- wrote:

Lopkyy in description is more than enough if you really want to show gratitude, do you really want to rank the map? just remove and everything should be ready to go.

already said by Shini lol okay and so Lopkyy still on tags?

Poii wrote:

if he only put 1 or 2 notes in your diff, its not a collab dude, at least tell me which part that he made ?

right, you can tell it now. please reconsider about this if you really want this set get requalified

Surono wrote:

I saw Kisses point from 01:22:727 - here and its about spread

* delete 01:23:121 - this on futsuu and add notes on muzukashii, I dont know why 4plet 1/2 on futsuu ok
* 01:23:713 - 01:24:898 - 01:25:490 - add don around here, its similar with Kantan density ok
* 01:25:292 - just add don in here for futsuu, since oni has 3plet + finishers

I think the spread of this set would be fine and neat if you fix these

Wafu wrote:

I also mentioned the mp3 quality in the older post, nobody still gave a response to it. I said I can give you a better one without changing offset. Yes, it is a suggestion, but you need to respond to everything with a reason. For the time being, I'll leave the sample-exact mp3 here. You are not forced to use it, but at minimum give your response to it.