[R] wrote:

yo

[General]
- 01:15:424 - slider should end at 01:16:608 - ok

[Kantan]
00:02:003 - | 00:03:582 - | 00:05:161 - maybe delete this note, to make different at 00:07:529 - (as the melody feels more intense here) ok
00:07:135 - add note, to give 1/1 pattern nice
00:40:095 - move 00:40:292 - to follow the vocal, like 00:41:871 - ok

[Futsuu]
00:01:608 - | 00:03:187 - | 00:04:766 - can delete, same reason with kantan ok
00:06:937 - | 00:07:332 - delete, to keep sphread between kantan ok
00:50:556 - change don, to emphasize 00:50:950 - ok
01:26:082 - add note, to fill the vocal sound no, i'm giving emphasis to 01:26:279 (28,29) -
01:27:069 - maybe move 01:27:463 - no
01:39:306 - move 01:39:898 - the 3/4 break feels sudden ok

[Muzukashii]
00:12:266 - delete, sound stops here ok
00:32:398 - change kat no
01:18:582 - delete, its too long as muzukashii ok
01:21:740 - ^ ^

that's all from me
good luck thanks

JarvisGaming YT wrote:

From queue
3 Hard diffs is unrankable(I think), pls nerf futsuu i will
[Kantan]
00:32:398 (39) - k to make it consistente i'm following the pattern kd d dd d kd
00:57:266 (71) - d because no pitch change or any distinct sounds ok
01:18:582 (3) - k because this note is higher than before (so you should probably do dkd) ok
[Futsuu]
At the beginning, why are you starting of so strong? You should slowly increase the difficulty as the music gets more intense. It makes the next part easier than the calm part. fixed
00:34:371 (77) - k because higher pitch no
00:59:832 (144) - k because higher vocal pitch ok
01:09:306 (172,173) - place a note before this, there are clearly sounds used
01:18:187 (5,6,7,8) - should be dk kd to fit the vocals better ok
01:21:740 (17) - k, same pitch as first note(of this triple) ok
01:31:213 (42) - k to fit vocal no
01:33:977 (51) - why the sudden gap after this? there are vocals fixed
[Muzu]
00:32:398 (134) - k to fit the music ok
00:42:661 (172,173) - you're doing the breaks wrong:
01:28:450 (59) - add a d after this ok
01:34:963 - same, i recommend this:
01:52:727 (164,165) - doesn't fit the music, suggest to add a k behing all of these, but if you wanna keep it, move it 1/4 of a beat forward to make it sound better ok, i used the 1/4
[Oni]
00:07:529 (23) - Somehow this part is even more intense than the next part? ?
00:58:450 (270,271,272,273,274,275,276,277,278,279,280,281,282) - i think this would sound better if its kdkddkdkdkddkkk ok
01:30:819 (442,443) - dk because pitch no

Gl :3 thx

Poii wrote:

General

for metadata ok
https://osu.ppy.sh/s/122444

turn off your countdown at muzu ok

Oni

00:26:279 (135,136,137) - why not kkd ? i hear snare at 00:26:279 - also is it oky if you have finisher at 1/4 ? yeah, kkd

01:15:424 - wat ? i just hear snare sound, why you use dkdkdkdkdk :3 how about dddkkkkkk ? i like the kdkdkdkdkd

Muzu

00:14:832 - why not d ? it have differ pitch :3 , apply in reapeated part yes

00:41:871 - snare :3 ok
00:46:608 - same ^ also its fit with vocal ^
00:48:977 - ^ ^
:3 i dunno why you use d for snare sound, but in beginning part, you use k

the combination both drum and vocal seem not good enough for me :3 also, why you have 2 kai ? thelast part is same like in beginning because this is the end(?)

Futsuu

:3 maybe SV change in futsuu lil bit too hard, it confusing some new player, and its cause miss or even fail becareful with that

better than muzu, you have consistency here, and variety, cool

1. 00:07:036 (20) - Recommend to move this to 00:06:937 - because there's no note where it is and the note on 00:06:937 - is usually mapped out.
2. 00:08:516 (29,39) - I think changing notes like this to k would fit how you've been following the melody so far.
3. 00:53:911 (249,250) - I think you could swap this to better follow where the vocal is emphasized. // 00:55:885 (258,259) - same for 00:56:477 -
4. 01:05:161 (301,302,303,304) - Not a fan of how this ignores the emphasis on 01:05:556 - . You have two options that I can see. Change 01:05:358 (302) - to k or delete it entirely. This actually happens in quite a few places like 01:08:911 (319,320,321,322) - etc.
5. 01:06:542 (308,309,310) - Really feel kdk would fit much better pitch wise here.

1. 01:09:503 (289) - Would move to 01:09:108 - instead since there's nothing on where you put it but it seems like you want a break somewhere. Would be most appropriate to plop a break where there is no sound.
2. 01:15:424 (1) - Hmm why not slider? Like 00:50:950 (213) - ?
3. 01:35:556 - Would put a note here and delete 01:36:148 (94) - instead for a break moment?

Mir wrote:

Hello, from my queue!

Oni

1. 00:07:036 (20) - Recommend to move this to 00:06:937 - because there's no note where it is and the note on 00:06:937 - is usually mapped out. i like how the session starts with this dk and probably no one who play the map will be affected in gameplay because of that. maybe i change in future
2. 00:08:516 (29,39) - I think changing notes like this to k would fit how you've been following the melody so far. i'm following the drums here
   
3. 00:53:911 (249,250) - I think you could swap this to better follow where the vocal is emphasized. // 00:55:885 (258,259) - same for 00:56:477 - ok
4. 01:05:161 (301,302,303,304) - Not a fan of how this ignores the emphasis on 01:05:556 - . You have two options that I can see. Change 01:05:358 (302) - to k or delete it entirely. This actually happens in quite a few places like 01:08:911 (319,320,321,322) - etc. very useful, thanks
5. 01:06:542 (308,309,310) - Really feel kdk would fit much better pitch wise here. ok

Muzu

1. 01:09:503 (289) - Would move to 01:09:108 - instead since there's nothing on where you put it but it seems like you want a break somewhere. Would be most appropriate to plop a break where there is no sound. yes it does, but i liked how fit with others parts like 01:11:082 (296,297,298,299,300,301) -
2. 01:15:424 (1) - Hmm why not slider? Like 00:50:950 (213) - ? wtf this spinner xD
3. 01:35:556 - Would put a note here and delete 01:36:148 (94) - instead for a break moment? no, sounds bad

I think the lower diffs look mostly fine. A bit busy so I'll skip those. Good luck! thanks ><

Ulqui wrote:

hi, from queue

[General]

Slider Velocity should be 1.40 on all diffs :thinking: nice bug
^fix sv


[Oni]

00:02:200 - 00:03:779 - 00:05:358 - I think those notes sound potentially like k no
00:07:036 - move to 00:06:937 - -----> cuz 00:07:036 - here is no sound :thinking: ok
00:09:306 (34,35,36) - change to dkd, for a more varied pattern no, i like the ddd
00:12:266 - delete cuz i hear no sound, also the sv change is better understood but has a sound
00:14:536 - 00:17:694 - change those to d, it will be less repetitive (dk dk dk dk dk dk dk dk----> dd dk dk dk dd dk dk dk) used
00:19:569 - i hear no sound here, i'll suggest move that note to 00:19:273 - and change to d. There's no sound too but it seems good imo. i prefer with k and this note does not affect the gameplay
00:20:852 - 00:24:010 - change to d same reason that i mentioned (variation) ?
00:25:983 - delete cuz no particular sound... ok
00:25:292 - k 00:25:490 - d cuz synth sounds like that... no
00:26:378 - delete cuz kkD is pretty weird ;-; OR 00:26:477 - remove finisher, so it'll be kkd does not have any note after the kkD, you can do it, just try xd
00:51:641 - delete, then 00:51:740 - D ok
01:14:240 - 01:15:029 - 01:15:227 - delete so you can make emphasis on 01:14:635 - this sound, sv and stream will be better understood no
01:15:424 (340,341,342,343,344,345,346,347,348,349,350,351) - kdddkdddkddk? no
01:17:003 - D? no
Hmmm...
01:17:200 - ok
01:20:358 - ok
01:23:615 - no
01:29:832 - ok
^ patterns would look better if you remove those
01:20:950 - d? consistence with 01:17:792 - ok
01:21:740 - ^ no
01:22:529 - i hear k sound like 01:22:727 - ok
01:25:984 - delete? so i can prepare for 01:26:280 (407,408,409) - that kdK DDDx no
01:29:536 - delete to avoid dkkdkkddK? --> dkkdkkd K 8) why? D:
01:31:213 - no sound owo, delete (unless you're following hihat) but map flows well without that note... no
01:36:246 - delete? cuz relax after kdK ;-; die no :/
01:23:121 (383,384,385) - this is kkd but 01:35:753 (455,456,457) - this is kdK, for consistence, both should be the same pattern... ok
01:38:713 (474,475) - ctrl+g on those, like 01:26:082 (403,404) - THIS OK
01:42:167 - delete cuz no sound delete cuz i hate ddK no xd
01:44:635 (503,504,505,506,507) - i think ddddk is better, to emphatize 01:45:029 - this ok
01:47:595 (522,523,524,525,526,527,528) - try with another pattern, for variation... like ddkdkdk or whatever no
01:49:174 (533,534,535,536,537,538,539) - ^ ^
01:51:246 - delete, reason mentioned... ok
01:52:431 - d, for variation(? no

[Muzukashii]

00:02:200 - 00:03:779 - 00:05:358 - change to k, mentioned in oni diff no
00:06:740 - delete? to make it easier than oni ok
00:54:898 - 00:58:056 - 01:01:213 - 01:04:371 - 01:07:529 - 01:10:687 - 01:12:069 - 01:13:845 - what happened with the finishers on that part? if you want to make better spread, make shorter patterns like cutting 00:52:727 - this and 00:54:503 - this ok
01:15:424 - end slider 01:16:510 - here ok

i recommend you to nerf this diff a little, it's pretty hard compared to futsuu
^try to make shorter patterns and delete unnecesary 1/4 triplets.

[Futsuu]

00:13:056 - end slider 00:13:450 - here ok
01:23:319 - why not K? ok
00:54:898 - 00:58:056 - 01:01:213 - 01:04:371 - 01:07:529 - 01:10:687 - 01:12:069 - 01:13:845 - what happened to finishers? ok

pretty cool diff >///<

[Kantan]

00:13:845 - finisher, loud sound ok
00:20:161 - ^ (but this isn't necessary at all) ^
00:26:477 - finisher. ok
00:32:792 - i think finisher is not necessary here
00:35:950 - ^
00:54:898 - 00:58:056 - 01:01:213 - 01:04:371 - 01:07:529 - 01:10:687 - 01:12:069 - 01:13:845 - finishers? yes
01:17:003 - finisher ok
01:29:635 - ^ ^
01:26:279 - move 01:26:477 - here, so baby players will not get confused @-@ (also finisher if you want) "baby players" :3
01:35:950 - K, for consistence with 01:23:319 - ok
01:39:108 - finisher????? ok
01:42:266 - finisher sound ok


GL thanks c:

Kbludoh wrote:

Hello! Modding the Oni difficulty, since I'm not very familiar with the lower difficulties.

00:15:424 (71,72,73,74,75,76,77,78,79,80) - Some slight variance is recommended here. Nothing drastic, but just to keep your player engaged a little more. Doing the variation only in the 3rd does not take away the feeling of repetition the map gives. This applies to most places where you copy/pasted stuff. ja tentei de todas as maneiras e desmaneiras que tem de nn deixar repetitivo, então sei la oq fazer ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

01:15:424 (343,344,345,346,347,348,349,350,351,352,353,354) - I think changing the pattern here would sound a bit better. KKKKDDDDKKKK perhaps? nn, que coisa absurda

01:28:845 (422,423,424,425,426,427,428,429) - This is mostly something you'd find in an Inner Oni, not in Oni. Change to something simpler. No hand swaps on Oni. (Except on patterns such as KDDKD and DKKDK.) arrumei, agora eu consigo fazer FC xd

01:41:477 (493,494,495,496,497,498,499,500,501) - This is mostly something you'd find in an Inner Oni, not in Oni. Change to something simpler. No hand swaps on Oni. (Except on patterns such as KDDKD and DKKDK.) ^

01:46:016 (517,518,519,520,521,522,523) - Too long and hand swaps. Not fit for Oni. ss

01:47:595 (528,529,530,531,532,533,534) - ^ ^

01:49:174 (539,540,541,542,543,544,545) - ^ ^

Those are the most glaring things I've found. vlw ai c:

Karee Pan wrote:

Hey there From my queue.
You have a pretty unique style of mapping i tried to keep my mod clean enough to not nerf the structure too much. i will cry ;-;

[Kantan]
00:41:279 (49) - These single upbeat notes seem very sudden and tough for Kantan, You could consider deleting (49) and moving 00:42:858 (52) - to 00:43:450 ok
00:50:161 (61) - And i would just repeat ^ here (00:49:371 - could still be a note though) ^
01:13:056 (89) - We could delete this and switch 01:13:845 (91) - to D to map the big cymbals instead. ok
01:51:148 (54) - Again a bit sudden, maybe just move to 01:51:345 ok


[Futsuu]
00:16:608 (35,36,37,38) - Would just go with the same kdkd instead this switch might be confusing in Futsuu fixed

This was a fun diff. >///<

[Muzukashii]
00:37:135 (138) - Seems unnecessary i prefer keep
00:52:727 (205,219) - Since we follow the vocal so strong we could just delete these ok
01:31:213 (352) - I liked how you let the longer vocal notes ride with a break after them and would continue it here by Moving this to 01:31:213 (352) ok
01:32:595 - Could add note here then too ok


[Oni]
00:06:740 (19) - You could consider deleting this, Feels the piano sound is kinda irrelevant compared to keeping following the intro melody. good
00:14:240 (64,73,82) - would just make these k's as well like in the next set. used
00:36:345 (152,154) - These are too much to my ear yeah xD
00:39:306 (162,163) - (163) Is the only snare here not mapped with a k, so i would just Crtl-g these. ok

Some extra stuff for your consideration

Sorry for these bigger suggestions, just something to take into consideration
Please note that this being a fairly low BPM 3.6* Oni, some of the patterns are making big difficulty spikes in it. To me these feel a bit out of place with the rest of the song. (These patterns are fine as they are but they are just tough)
01:15:424 - A 12 note kdkdkdkdkdkd is hard, you could go soemthing like d_kdk_kdkdkd for example.
01:28:845 - dkkdkkddk also rough for this. At least (429) should be deleted cause of the Finisher coming up.
01:41:477 - Here as well, very tough pattern. (500) at least before the Finisher should go. Both of these 9s could also be done as simple as xxxxx_x_X
01:46:213 (514,525,536) - These also questionable to me difficulty wise.
fixed all

Good song, nice mapset! Good luck! thanks c:

sing216 wrote:

Late for mod, i feel lazy. (:3 _)=

Muzukashii

I think this mod is subjective, it depends on you.

1. 00:10:983 (30) - delete
   This note sounds should not be put here ok
2. 00:12:266 (36) - delete and 00:13:056 - add (d / 1/4 dd) here
   no note sounds strange here, also take a break after the big note better. used
3. 00:13:845 - ~ 00:18:187 - ok
   Should be able to make more changes because muzukashii, e.g change like this? :
4. 00:44:635 (139) - change to d and 00:44:832 (140) - move to 00:44:733 -
   More similar to Oni, and continues to follow the drum's voice hmm...
5. 00:47:398 (150) - change to k ok
6. 00:56:279 - add k? ok
7. 01:06:148 - ^ ^
   
8. 01:26:279 - add d ok
9. 01:27:858 - add d and 01:27:266 (284,291) - delete
   It sounds more like this better good
10. 01:44:635 - add d ok
11. 01:45:819 (339,340,341,342,343,344,345) -
    These pattern looks good, but actually here you can follow the music more clearly,
    e.g 01:46:213 (342) - move to 01:46:312 - and
    01:46:510 (343) - move to 01:46:411 (343) - :o
    (I think this mod is subjective, it depends on you.)
    
12. ^if you take my advice, 01:47:398 (347,348,349,350,351,352,353,354,355,356,357,358) - here you should make the same change

Oni

1. 00:07:529 - ~ 00:12:463 -
   i think here the note is suddenly too much, because it is in start part and not kiai. 00:07:825 (24,34,44) - My advice is delete these notes, or you decide to delete feeling better for you. :o
2. 00:12:266 (49) - delete? ok
3. 00:19:371 (88) - delete and 00:19:470 (89) - change to d ,add a small break yes
   
4. 01:17:891 - add d and 01:19:470 - add k
   Kiai many 1/2 note but it will feel unnatural sounds bad and i like these 1/2 notes, but i will try put 1/4 too
5. ^You can choose to delete 01:20:062 (367) - this note if you take my advice
6. 01:23:516 (384,392) - delete and 01:26:280 (401) - change to d
   The difficulty increases suddenly here, because continuous big note or 1/4 it's to be sudden and hard
   
7. 01:28:056 (412) - delete ok
8. 01:28:845 (417,418,419,420,421,422,423) - change to dkkkdkd?
   Everyone's feeling is different, so this just what you think i think dkkkdkd it's a bit hard
   
9. 01:30:523 - and 01:32:299 - add d
   Will be almost the same change with the beginning kiai used
   
10. 01:33:681 - add d and 01:34:865 - add k used
11. 01:36:148 (456,460,464,468) - delete and 01:38:812 - add d no
12. 01:44:635 (498,499) - change to k sound better? okay... >.>

Song is so cute and has a charming melody. you are cute and have a charming melody >///<
Good luck!!

Tyistiana wrote:

And finally, I'm flee free from the project. Sorry for the late. ;;w;; at least you modded :3

[ Overall]
01:45:424 - Seems like this part is not a kiai. It's looks like outro more than kiai. Like 00:13:845 as an intro. :thonking:

[ Kantan]
00:50:950 - Seems too blank here. How about add a note here? To make the note dense here not too far away from Futsuu. O.o
01:43:845 - The slide is not on any 1/4 1/6 or 1/8. Make this slider snap to 1/4 like 00:12:463 will be better. probably it happened when the SV bugged, but this doesn't affect the gameplay. I will fix to avoid future mentions

[ Futsuu]
00:20:161 - Change to K , to make it consist to the other difficulty. And it fit to the pitch better imo. ok
00:45:424 - In Futsuu have used D here but while the others difficulty used K. To change this point as K on Futsuu will make a consistence to the other difficulty. :o
01:39:108 - Forget to add a finisher here? Even Kantan have used a finisher here. ok
01:44:635 - Unsnapped slider. bugs grrr

[ Muzukashii]
00:20:161 - Change to K , to make it consist to the other difficulty. And it fit to the pitch better imo. yeah
00:35:753 - Change to d , to make it distinguish from 00:35:358 (100,101) since the pitch have a different tone. ok
00:37:727 - Add d here will fit the pitch better. A 1/2 note after finisher note isn't that hard for Muzukashii. it's only to make different from other diffs
01:23:319 - Did you forget to add a finisher here. To add it, it will consist to 01:23:911 (268,270,272,274) yeah
01:32:792 - A pitch here isn't strong enough to use finisher imo. '^'
01:35:161 moves to 01:34:963 - It will follow the vocal better. god
01:35:950 - Just like 01:23:319 ^

[ Oni]
It's already good from my sight~ :3 :3

Adorable song and nice mapset! Good luck! thanks ><

Essey6 wrote:

heyoo, nm!

kantan is very good! i couldn't find any problems C:

Muzukashii

01:45:819 (338,339) - you have this at the end but at the beginning it's 00:14:240 (41,42) -
any particular reason why or? it's a bit hard to explain but let's go '^'. i made the first session with more distant notes because sounds more calm and better and the last session with 1/4 because is a session more dense

again, very good difficulty

Oni

00:02:200 (5) - don because it's a lower pitch? and for other notes like this no D:
00:14:240 (59,61) - kat? and for other notes like these, for a bit of consistency with what you did at the end of the song sounds repetitive with the second part of the first session (makes sense?) and it's the same conceit from the diff muzukashii

no complaints from me, a very fun and well made difficulty

i'm sorry this wasn't very helpful :') GL with rank! at least you tried c: thanks for mod :3

1. 00:20:161 and 00:13:845 - A bit weird about the pattern. In 00:20:161 you started the strong melody with 3 notes consecutive. But in 00:13:845 You started with only 1 note. I think they should be identical because they have the same melody. Consider a remap here.
2. 00:46:016 - Move this note to 00:46:213 because it would make players confusing and it doesn't stick to the melody either. Do it occasionally but not too much.
3. 00:49:963: Move to 00:50:161 - Like I was mentioned above
4. 00:51:740 to 01:02:792 - As you can see, you have made this part is boring, you have used too much 2/1 spaces, make some variations, you didn't make variations at the right point.
5. 01:04:371: Same as above

1. 00:26:477: You could increase the density more here. It's just a bit different.
2. Great diff now

1. 00:43:845 - I think this is a remapped pattern, followed by the RC, it should not be longer than 5 notes when you are using 1/4 space in Muzukashii,
   You could remove these notes (e.g - 00:44:437 and 00:45:227
2. 00:49:569 - Move this note to 00:50:161 and then remove this 00:50:358 I think it's better imo because the currently pattern isn't follow the vocal.
3. 01:02:990 - Same as 00:43:845

1. 00:39:010 - Imo you should add this note here because I heard the drum sound. It's still rankable when you but a 1/4 note next to the Finish notes.
2. 01:15:917 - Same as above

davidminh0111 wrote:

Hola, from my queue: "hola" '^'
A bit late sorry:

[Kantan]

1. 00:20:161 and 00:13:845 - A bit weird about the pattern. In 00:20:161 you started the strong melody with 3 notes consecutive. But in 00:13:845 You started with only 1 note. I think they should be identical because they have the same melody. Consider a remap here. yeah
2. 00:46:016 - Move this note to 00:46:213 because it would make players confusing and it doesn't stick to the melody either. Do it occasionally but not too much. used
3. 00:49:963: Move to 00:50:161 - Like I was mentioned above ^
4. 00:51:740 to 01:02:792 - As you can see, you have made this part is boring, you have used too much 2/1 spaces, make some variations, you didn't make variations at the right point. ok
5. 01:04:371: Same as above ^
   
   [Futsuu]
   
   1. 00:26:477: You could increase the density more here. It's just a bit different. but the density here is different in all diffs
   [Muzukashii]
   
   [Oni]
   

Mod later soon because fuk my battery it's okay xd. thanks for mod :3

davidminh0111 wrote:

[Muzukashii]

1. 00:43:845 - I think this is a remapped pattern, followed by the RC, it should not be longer than 5 notes when you are using 1/4 space in Muzukashii,
   You could remove these notes (e.g - 00:44:437 and 00:45:227 used
2. 00:49:569 - Move this note to 00:50:161 and then remove this 00:50:358 I think it's better imo because the currently pattern isn't follow the vocal. no, if i change here i will need to change here 01:02:398 (193,194,195,196,197) - too
3. 01:02:990 - Same as 00:43:845 ?

[Oni]

1. 00:39:010 - Imo you should add this note here because I heard the drum sound. It's still rankable when you but a 1/4 note next to the Finish notes. meh, sounds weird
2. 01:15:917 - Same as above i don't want long 1/4 streams

(´・ω・｀) (´・ω・｀)

[R] wrote:

gratz

davidminh0111 wrote:

Hello Igor, I have some concerns about the tags in the metadata.

davidminh0111 wrote:

>Metadata is from alacat but since alacat's map tag have iyasine but your map has iyasine either. Iyasine is the GD name of someone else.

davidminh0111 wrote:

> I don't know that Lopkyy Produções created this music but it seems that I can't find it. But in my opinion, this song's genre is J-Pop and I don't think that company is Japanese.

davidminh0111 wrote:

Conclusion: Imo I don't know if this one needs for disqualification but it seems like the metadata is wrong.

maybe , in my view is all okay now, but feel free to try dq my map

Igor Sprite wrote:

mappers put some "random" things in tags like rsi in this map, but yeah it's related indirectly, some players have rsi playing this map and if don't the metadata is wrong(?). iyasine helped alacat to rank your mapset and now is helping me indirectly since i got bpm, offset, bg, audio, artist and title why not all the tags?

Igor Sprite wrote:

oh, here is lopkyy and he helps me a lot. it's only lopkyy produções as your request >///<

Wafu wrote:

I think this needs to be disqualified for putting irrelevant people into metadata (and it seems like without consent).

"irrelevant people" uh, you really don't choose your words right?. fixed artist and bye iyasine. i will keep the lopkyy , he is relevant to me and my mapset

Kisses wrote:

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Igor Sprite wrote:

iyasine helped alacat to rank your mapset and now is helping me indirectly since i got bpm, offset, bg, audio, artist and title why not all the tags?

Kisses wrote:

but a way to help search for mappers that were involved in said mapsets (at least I'm 98% sure lol)

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Disqualified so you can remove any irrelevant tags. Wafu also pointed out issues regarding general metadata so you need to address them as well.

Igor Sprite wrote:

Wafu wrote:

I think this needs to be disqualified for putting irrelevant people into metadata (and it seems like without consent).

"irrelevant people" uh, you really don't choose your words right?. fixed artist and bye iyasine. i will keep the lopkyy , he is relevant to me and my mapset

Igor Sprite wrote:

Kisses wrote:

but a way to help search for mappers that were involved in said mapsets (at least I'm 98% sure lol)

this solve the problem with lopkyy in tags

davidminh0111 wrote:

See? >√<.
1st time disqualifing a map

Igor Sprite wrote:

davidminh0111 wrote:

See? >√<.
1st time disqualifing a map

D:

i will not remove lopkyy from tags. that is all

Kisses wrote:

well you won't be able to get it re-qualified then I'm afraid

Igor Sprite wrote:

Kisses wrote:

but a way to help search for mappers that were involved in said mapsets (at least I'm 98% sure lol)

this solve the problem with lopkyy in tags

Wafu wrote:

What problem does it solve? Giving you a general advice (essentially a mod) doesn't mean what Kisses said.

Igor Sprite wrote:

as kisses said tags is for help search and if you write lopkyy, you will find 5 maps that lopkyy helped me and writing igor sprite you will find many others without lopkyy in tags

Kisses wrote:

3) were part of a collab

Igor Sprite wrote:

i don't know if is required put collab when a mapper that helped you making a diff does not want
if yes, please show me and i will remove lopkyy from tags

Ranking Criteria wrote:

The information of multiple mapset contributors must be provided in the mapset, if there is any guest mapper. This might be in the creator's words, via a storyboard or via naming the guest difficulties appropriately. You only need to provide information of guest mapper and corresponding guest part. Guest mappers must be added to the tags of a mapset. This helps others to know if the map uploader is the main contributor of the mapset and who else contributed to the given mapset.

Wafu wrote:

Igor Sprite wrote:

i don't know if is required put collab when a mapper that helped you making a diff does not want
if yes, please show me and i will remove lopkyy from tags

Ranking Criteria wrote:

The information of multiple mapset contributors must be provided in the mapset, if there is any guest mapper. This might be in the creator's words, via a storyboard or via naming the guest difficulties appropriately. You only need to provide information of guest mapper and corresponding guest part. Guest mappers must be added to the tags of a mapset. This helps others to know if the map uploader is the main contributor of the mapset and who else contributed to the given mapset.

i will give his correct credit just wait
Also, gave the map a quick glance. Looks relatively okay, could use some improvement, but the only thing I really want to mention is 01:35:950 (308) - in Muzukashii not having a finish here. It's inconsistent with the exact same part, and with other difficulties. fixed

Additionally, the background image doesn't seem related to the song or band in any way. The standards are changing, you can't just copy everything from the older map and hope it's correct. It would be nice if you would find some Silent Siren related image instead. The mp3 could be better too, I don't understand why to go for the lowest quality allowed (if you want help with that without having to change the offset, PM me on forums let's map a eletronic song, ANIME GIRL.jpg. see this map she ins't waking up D: .oh another "nonsense" BG

Wafu wrote:

Additionally, the background image doesn't seem related to the song or band in any way. The standards are changing, you can't just copy everything from the older map and hope it's correct. It would be nice if you would find some Silent Siren related image instead. The mp3 could be better too, I don't understand why to go for the lowest quality allowed (if you want help with that without having to change the offset, PM me on forums)

Igor Sprite wrote:

let's map a eletronic song, ANIME GIRL.jpg. see this map she ins't waking up D: .oh another "nonsense" BG

Surono wrote:

wow its time to stop put memes in the serious thing such ranking map, its for offical content for this game right ? lol

1 thing for oni, 01:42:661 - change this sv to 0.90x to avoid 01:42:266 - this note 01:42:661 - blocked in the right screen, yeah just to make it neat the slowdown of sv alteration. yeah just minor

I dont find something wrong with BG, it fits well with the atmosphere of the song and yeah the song just tell about love and https://puu.sh/yO8Bz/409b90208a.png from the mapper told me, well

Sinnoh wrote:

bg is fine, tags are not

Sinnoh wrote:

bg is fine, tags are not

Naotoshi wrote:

Oh please, this is moronic. Will you go and pop every random map with an anime background? A background is nothing more than something to identify the map by and something the mapper thinks fits. Yes obvious this guy is rather lazy, not even bothering to write his own tags. Regardless, popping the map because he uses a background you don't find suitable is ludicrous.

Igor Sprite wrote:

wtf is happening with my map? ;-;

Wafu wrote:

Elaborate how the background is fine, using "atmosphere" as "it fits" doesn't seem very competent.

Surono wrote:

I dont know but let other people giving more opinions about this and to determine it. as I thought, so it should be using artist, the album cover, or screenshot of the video clip from this song as bg? whats happening really

Ataraxia wrote:

So, say why don't competent, i see all the text but i just found some vague assumptions and random words, u are sayng that are a problem here, but u don't ever show any example of how mapper can fix that, u just pop and "go find other"

If you see the lyrics, how BG u think that fits with the song, any example ?, if u just wanted to "say", u just pop because u want, not because there's a real problem in BG

1. Background is not relevant to the band
2. Background is not relevant to the song
3. Background is not relevant to the lyrics or the theme of the song

1. (1) Use a background directly related to the song
2. (2) If none good exists, use a background that is related to the band
3. (3) If none good exists, use an image from random source that is thematically relevant
4. (4) Last resort, if none of above exist, choose a completely random background because that means any relevance can't be satisfied (usually will apply only to non-thematic instrumentals)

Surono wrote:

Rebubbled

Sinnoh wrote:

bg is fine, tags are not

idk but up to you guys

<Surono> " lopkyy " do you really want it on tags?
<Igor_Sprite> yes
<Igor_Sprite> it's very very important to me
<Surono> did he mapped at least 50% of your map?
<Surono> or just some?
<Surono> if yes, change muzukashii as collab muzukashii and you can keep that name on tags
<Surono> if no, yeah just delete.. or those people will, yeah in the description is enough. on tags zz idk
<Igor_Sprite> yes, he helped me since the begin of my ranking process
<Surono> hmm
<Surono> just muzukashii right?
<Igor_Sprite> but it's right with ranking criteria
<Igor_Sprite> muzukashii and oni
<Surono> "collab" on diffnaming or just standard diffnaming doesnt matter if you already put statment in the descreption.
<Igor_Sprite> but i already fixed according the ranking criteria
<Surono> nice
<Igor_Sprite> mapper name in tags and informations in descripition

Net0 wrote:

"You should never follow ranked maps to justify errors in qualified or pending maps." Errors should be justified by rules. Errors cannot be justified by an uneven treatmeant of mapsets.

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

In this case, we should go back to address the cause of disqualification i.e. removal of irrelevant tags and fixing metadata issue. If Lopkyy is just a modder that helped the mapset, it would be better not to include their name in tags.

Kisses wrote:

Net0 wrote:

"You should never follow ranked maps to justify errors in qualified or pending maps." Errors should be justified by rules. Errors cannot be justified by an uneven treatmeant of mapsets.

Can you just stop. PLEASE!

Wafu wrote:

Only text bellow is really important

From now on, I would like if this discussion could continue by addressing only the issues brought up. My concern again is:

1. Background is not relevant to the band Agree.
2. Background is not relevant to the song Disagree. Even though you've said "using "atmosphere" as "it fits" doesn't seem very competent", I couldn't agree less. I think this is a very important aspect of choosing a background, no matter what - because the song is the main actor in a map.
3. Background is not relevant to the lyrics or the theme of the song Can't judge at this point.

Nardoxyribonucleic wrote:

Well, it is time to step in as the discussion is going nowhere as it seems.

About the current BG choice, I think it somewhat fits the song. Relevance of BGs is in fact a relative concept. As we all know in the common practice, certain degree of freedom is allowed in choosing background images for a map to show some connections with the song, be it the lyrics, theme or overall atmosphere. Unless it goes completely unrelated to the song (in this case, say an image of a skull for example), limiting BG choices for songs that are sung by a band with reality images is just too strict and out of the scope of current mapping context.

In this case, we should go back to address the cause of disqualification i.e. removal of irrelevant tags and fixing metadata issue. If Lopkyy is just a modder that helped the mapset, it would be better not to include their name in tags.

1. (1) Use a background directly related to the song You can choose any frame of the clip, you can use any image featuring the song
2. (2) If none good exists, use a background that is related to the band You can use any image relevant to the band
3. (3) If none good exists, use an image from random source that is thematically relevant You can use any image that has one (yes, even just one) major feature in common

Wafu wrote:

Anyway, that's all I'm willing to say about the background. But @Igor Sprite could say a word to it too, I don't feel like I deserve being ignored completely on this one by the mapper themselves.

Wafu wrote:

@Irreversible, the veto was not only because of the background. The discussion about tags was not finished and my suggestion about the background was entirely ignored. It must had been addressed by the mapper in order to be eligible for a bubble in the first place. I admit I should've stated all the reasons for a veto, I thought it was pretty obvious that the discussion was still happening. My apologies.

Okoratu wrote:

Dude wafu wtf - the amount of braincells we waste arguing about this.

something fitting the song's mood is so relative and majority seems to be against making a huge deal about this, i'm more concerned about Surono trying to end any discussion by just nominating the goddamn map right in the middle of it.

Case in point: For most people seems suitable enough, especially since it is original artwork without relation to anything else so here have the bg in a not shit-resolution (yay):

https://puu.sh/yOjzt/e7a6240d6e.jpg

Nifty wrote:

I don't know about the title/artist, but it sounds to me like igor needs to just remove lopkyy from the tags or add him to the diff names.

In the description it says "but didn't changed these name diffs as your request" which is the downfall of language barriers, and I would like igor to try to rephrase this to make some sort of sense.

The way I read it, it sounds like someone told you to not put lopkyy's name in the difficulties he helped map, which is just incorrect, but I didn't find one person in this thread who's told you that. This leads me to assume that lopkyy themselves told you to not put their name on the diffs (perhaps to not take credit or whatever), and that's also wrong and kind of breaking the rules, since you have to put whoever is involved with mapping the diff in the name.

Ranking Criteria wrote:

The information of multiple mapset contributors must be provided in the mapset, if there is any guest mapper. This might be in the creator's words, via a storyboard or via naming the guest difficulties appropriately. You only need to provide information of guest mapper and corresponding guest part. Guest mappers must be added to the tags of a mapset. This helps others to know if the map uploader is the main contributor of the mapset and who else contributed to the given mapset.

Kisses wrote:

Well your words turned from him helping you with some patterns to flat out collabing with you lol

Igor Sprite wrote:

Kisses wrote:

Well your words turned from him helping you with some patterns to flat out collabing with you lol

sorry net0 ins't here now say "he put notes in editor and sent me a file with .osu format" have relation with "he did a GD diff for me" no?

osuskrub wrote:

okay, did he map an entire diff? or did he map part of one and you finished the rest?

if it's the first one you should add his name to what difficulty he did.
if it's the second one you can add a combination of your names or write "collab [diff name]" and possibly indicate in the map description who mapped which parts

Wafu wrote:

If lopkyy really did make a collab with you, sure, add lopkyy in tags. But he didn't post anything here (and has played 12 minutes of taiko overall)

Kisses wrote:

Wafu wrote:

If lopkyy really did make a collab with you, sure, add lopkyy in tags. But he didn't post anything here (and has played 12 minutes of taiko overall)

Lol well this is interesting

Sinnoh wrote:

Stop twisting what Wafu said about irrelevant. The context he used it in was that the tag was not related to the set because Wafu assumed lopkyy did not map anything, not because lopkyy is irrelevant as a person.

Wafu wrote:

If lopkyy really did make a collab with you, sure, add lopkyy in tags. But he didn't post anything here (and has played 12 minutes of taiko overall), can we get some clarification from lopkyy? We need to know if he really participated to know if he truly can be in tags.